Shohei Ohtani Joins the 40-40 Club in Grand Style, and He Could Have Company

While Shohei Ohtani hasn’t pitched this year after undergoing UCL reconstruction surgery last fall, he has found another area of the game in which he could excel while terrorizing opposing pitchers. The 30-year-old superstar blew past his previous career high in stolen bases in late July, and on Friday night against the Rays he swiped his 40th bag of the year. Five innings later, he collected his 40th home run to join the 40-40 club in spectacular style, when he clobbered a first-pitch, walk-off grand slam. Unfortunately, Ronald Acuña Jr.’s torn ACL deprived him of a chance to follow up last year’s unprecedented combination of 41 homers and 73 steals, but it’s not out of the question we could have another 40-40 player this season, namely José Ramírez, and at least a couple more 30-30 ones.
I’ll get to those, but first, it’s Sho time. Prior to this year, Ohtani had reached 40 homers twice (46 in 2021 and a league-leading 44 last year) but had stolen just 20 bases or more twice (26 in 2021 and 20 last year). Unburdened by the demands of pitching this year, and playing for a new team with much higher aspirations than the Angels, he’s been able to withstand more wear and tear on his legs, has had more time to study opposing pitchers, and has come to appreciate the extra dimension he can add to his new team.
“I think he has bought into stealing bases, understands the value of the stolen base, getting 90 feet,” manager Dave Roberts told The Athletic earlier this month. “He’s in a pennant race now. And I don’t think he’s been in a pennant race in his big-league career. So his enhanced focus is not a surprise to me.”
“I think now with having less on his plate from a preparation standpoint and the pitching, more focus can be put on it,” first base coach Clayton McCullough told The Athletic. “His eye for things has been impressive”
According to Statcast, Ohtani’s sprint speed ranks in the 72nd percentile, which is actually the second-lowest mark of his career; he’s been as low as the 63rd percentile (2023) and as high as the 92nd (in his brief ’20 campaign), or the 90th (’21) if you limit the comparison to full seasons. It’s clear that he can motor, and not only has he been prolific for a team that hasn’t had such a base-stealing threat in awhile — Dee Strange-Gordon was the last Dodger to steal at least 40 bases (64 in 2014) — he’s been efficient, getting caught just four times. In fact, the only Wild Card-era Dodger with a higher rate of success in a season with at least 30 attempts is Roberts himself, who had a 97.1% success rate (33 steals, one caught) in 2004. Overall, Ohtani leads the NL in homers and is second in stolen bases. His baserunning (including advancements) has been worth 5.7 runs above average, up 3.2 from last year, his previous career high, and fifth in the majors.
As for his big night on Friday, Ohtani’s stolen base came after he legged out an infield single in the fourth inning. Catcher Rob Brantly dropped the pitch and didn’t even get off a throw. The homer followed a walk to pinch-hitter Max Muncy to load the bases; needing to throw a strike, Colin Poche left a slider in Ohtani’s wheelhouse.
Not only did that make Ohtani just the sixth player in major league history to reach 40 homers and 40 steals in a season, but he also joined the club faster than anyone by a country mile:
| Player | Team | Season | HR | SB | Games to 40-40 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shohei Ohtani | LAD | 2024 | 40 | 40 | 126 |
| Alfonso Soriano | WSN | 2006 | 46 | 41 | 147 |
| Jose Canseco | OAK | 1988 | 42 | 40 | 151 |
| Ronald Acuña Jr. | ATL | 2023 | 41 | 73 | 152 |
| Alex Rodriguez | SEA | 1998 | 42 | 46 | 153 |
| Barry Bonds | SFG | 1996 | 42 | 40 | 158 |
Did I mention it’s still August? Ohtani has ample time to establish the 45-45 club, and he’s even on pace to be the founder of the 50-50 club. Toward that end, I asked Dan Szymborski to whip up some ZiPS-flavored odds that he attains those combinations:
| HR | SB | RoS HR | RoS SB | Proj HR | Proj SB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 41 | 40 | 9 | 6 | 50 | 46 |
| Odds 45 HR | Odds 45 SB | Odds 45/45 | Odds 50 HR | Odds 50 SB | Odds 50/50 |
| 82% | 63% | 56% | 49% | 42% | 28% |
Ohtani, who added another home run on Saturday night, is more likely than not to reach 45 homers and 45 steals. He has nearly a coin-toss chance at joining Aaron Judge in the 50-homer club (Judge has just six steals, in case you’re wondering), and better than a one-in-four chance of reaching that and 50 steals.
Two points are worth bearing in mind. As Dan reminded me upon delivering these projections, the odds of achieving the combination are a bit higher than just multiplying the two numbers together since there is some correlation. While home runs don’t directly create stolen base opportunities, if Ohtani is hitting homers, he’s probably playing better, hitting more singles and doubles as well (and facing more hittable pitchers). That’s enough to offset the extent to which hitting a homer deprives a player of a chance to reach base and steal. Second, these odds do not account for human nature in the form of the possibility that a player nearing the stolen base milestone might start trying to steal more frequently, an action that’s much more within his control than, say, a sudden attempt to hit more homers (which usually doesn’t end well).
Last year, four players combined at least 30 homers with 30 steals for just the fourth time in history (1987, ’97, and 2011 were the others), and four others gave the combination a run for the money, finishing with at least 25 homers and 25 steals. It’s not hard to understand why. The new rules put in place for 2023 that favor stolen bases — namely the pitch clock, the limit on pickoff throws, and the slightly larger bases — pushed the per-team, per-game rate to 0.72, the highest it had been since 1997, that in a season that produced the fifth-highest home run rate of all time (1.21 per team per game). Stolen bases are up to 0.73 per team per game this year, and while the home run rate has fallen to 1.12, that’s still the 10th-highest mark of all time. Note that from among those seasons with four 30-30 members, 1987 marked the first time the home run rate broke 1.0 (1.06, up 0.15 from the previous year), while ’97 and 2011 both had localized highs for stolen bases (0.73 and 0.67, respectively), combined with reasonably high home run rates.
Acuña isn’t the only one whose injuries have prevented another shot at a cool combo. The same is true for one of last year’s 30-30 members, Julio Rodríguez (whose play has also fallen off), and near-misses Fernando Tatis Jr., Kyle Tucker, and Trea Turner, and while Corbin Carroll has been healthy (though we’ve all wondered about his shoulder), he just hasn’t been able to muster the same magic.
Nonetheless, one other player has already reached both plateaus before the end of August: Ramírez, who hit his 30th home run in the second game of a doubleheader against the Diamondbacks on August 7 (he’s added three since), and stole his 30th base against the Yankees on Thursday (he’s added two since). This is his second time reaching the two thresholds in the same season. He hit 39 homers and stole 34 bases in 2018, setting career highs in both categories; he also came close in ’21 (36 homers, 27 steals) and last year (24 homers, 28 steals).
Ramírez has benefitted from exceptional efficiency, as he’s been caught just four times, and he actually has a reasonable chance of joining the 40-40 club. Here are his ZiPS odds for that, as well as those for the potential 30-30 members:
| Player | Team | HR | SB | RoS HR | RoS SB | Proj HR | Proj SB | 40 HR % | 40 SB % | Combo % |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| José Ramírez | CLE | 33 | 32 | 7 | 6 | 40 | 38 | 47% | 39% | 20% |
| Player | Team | HR | SB | RoS HR | RoS SB | Proj HR | Proj SB | 30 HR % | 30 SB % | Combo % |
| Bobby Witt Jr. | KCR | 26 | 26 | 6 | 7 | 32 | 33 | 72% | 72% | 58% |
| Francisco Lindor | NYM | 27 | 25 | 6 | 5 | 33 | 30 | 65% | 77% | 54% |
| Elly De La Cruz | CIN | 22 | 61 | 4 | 10 | 26 | 71 | 31% | 100% | 31% |
| Jazz Chisholm Jr. | 2Tm | 20 | 27 | 6 | 6 | 26 | 33 | 14% | 70% | 11% |
| Brenton Doyle | COL | 21 | 25 | 4 | 5 | 25 | 30 | 10% | 52% | 6% |
Witt and Lindor both reached 30-30 last year, as did Acuña and Rodríguez, and both are right in the thick of MVP races in their respective leagues, though probably underdogs. Witt’s 9.0 WAR trails only Judge’s 9.6. The shortstop, who is in his age-24 season, is vying to become the youngest player to achieve two 30-30 seasons; Acuña was in his age-25 season when he did it for a second time last year.
Lindor has overtaken Ohtani for the NL WAR lead, 6.5 to 6.2. As I noted just last week in relation to the shortstop’s MVP chances, his low batting average is likely to work against him even in an age where we know that the stat isn’t the be-all and end-all of production. Ohtani’s 2021 season is the only one of the past 51 years where a hitter won the award with a batting average under .280, thanks to his 46 homers and excellence on the mound. As this August dawned, Ohtani held a .309 to .254 edge on Lindor in batting average, and a 5.6 to 5.0 edge in WAR, but lately things have favored the switch-hitting Met, and the two are now just 23 points apart in average, .292 to .269.
Meanwhile, on Wednesday, De La Cruz stole his 60th base, making him the youngest player (and just the fifth overall) to combine at least 20 homers (he has 22) with 60 steals within a very electrifying group:
| Player | Team | Season | Age | HR | SB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Elly De La Cruz | CIN | 2024 | 22 | 22 | 61 |
| Eric Davis | CIN | 1986 | 24 | 27 | 80 |
| Ronald Acuña Jr. | ATL | 2023 | 25 | 41 | 73 |
| Rickey Henderson | NYY | 1985 | 26 | 24 | 80 |
| Rickey Henderson | NYY | 1986 | 27 | 28 | 87 |
| Joe Morgan | CIN | 1973 | 29 | 26 | 67 |
| Rickey Henderson | OAK | 1990 | 31 | 28 | 65 |
| Joe Morgan | CIN | 1976 | 32 | 27 | 60 |
With five weeks remaining in the regular season, De La Cruz still has a decent shot at 30 homers. The Reds have 31 games remaining, and according to Baseball Reference, he’s had multiple overlapping spans this year in which he’s hit eight or nine homers, starting with one that ran from Opening Day (March 28) to May 3.
As for Chisholm and Doyle, neither has strong chances of getting to 30-30, but enough of the season remains — 31 games for each of their teams — that it’s not entirely out of the question. Chisholm not only homered 10 times in a 31-game stretch in 2022 with the Marlins (May 8 to June 22), he had a series of similarly productive overlapping spans this year, starting with one that began on July 3 and ended with the second game of a doubleheader on August 10, and was highlighted by back-to-back two-homer games on July 29 and 30, his second and third after being traded from the Marlins to the Yankees. He just returned from a mild UCL sprain in his left elbow, and while he has yet to homer or even barrel a ball since coming back, he does have five hard-hit balls (95 mph or higher) in three games. Doyle had several stretches where he’s has hit as many as 12 homers over a 31-game span this year, starting with one that began on June 17 and ended on July 24. It probably doesn’t hurt that he plays in Colorado, though this year he’s hit 11 of his 21 homers on the road.
Because of his contract, his market, and the unprecedented nature of his pursuit, Ohtani’s chase will probably remain the one that captures our attention — and hey, when you can do it like he did on Friday night, that attention is well-earned. But particularly because some of them they may affect the MVP races, and perhaps even give us the largest bumper crop of 30-30 players, all of these pursuits are worth keeping an eye on as we head into the home stretch.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Ohtani’s power Statcast numbers this year are huge (119.2 Max EV, 95.2 average EV). He has been close to this. We’ve been pretty spoiled lately in the exit velocity department with Giancarlo Stanton and now Aaron Judge, but this sure looks like 80-grade raw power, 80-grade game power to me.
He’s 4th in the league in EV50, with 106.4. The guys ahead of him are the aforementioned Yanks, and Oneil Cruz. Right behind him is Vladito, Soto, and Schwarber. Kind of impossible to say otherwise.
Earlier in the season, Ohtani hit a ball over the right field pavilion that missed leaving the park by a few feet, which has been done by <5 people in Dodger Stadium history (Stargell, Piazza, Stanton, and Tatis Jr, I believe). I was concerned that his rehab would hinder his power numbers, but if anything, he’s shown what full concentration on his offensive game can do, and if he can add in ~100 IP without losing too much on the hitting side…phew…
Jose Ramirez is like the tortoise that’s slowly gaining on everyone with all the flash and power. But he’s a great baserunner too. He does it all doesn’t he? Namely he stays healthy. He’s played in 150+ games in just about all his yrs in an era where most players drop like flies. And he should be able to play for many more years to the Hall.
If Jose wants it, I wouldn’t be surprised if he steals 40 bags. He’s only been caught 4 times (89% success rate). He attempted 3 steals against the Rangers yesterday, in fact. Maybe he goes for it.
To me it sort of feels like the home run odds are the ones that matter. Getting to 50 hrs, getting to 40 hrs. I feel like if people have a chance to join a certain group they will simply choose to run more once they are close. Whereas you cannot simply choose to “hit more home runs” .
Ichiro could have hit 30 HR every year if he had wanted to
The exception that proves the rule!
This might very well be true, but Ichiro is one-of-a-kind, as are Ohtani & Betts… each just so unique as to be “Breaking Madden” if I can cross-wire my sports analogies.
https://www.sbnation.com/a/breaking-madden
Ty Cobb also claimed that he could have hit a lot more home runs if he had wanted to do so.
They played a different game in his prime. Contact over all else; bat control over power.
“Hit it where they ain’t.”
Ichiro also chose contact over power.
Well, Cobb said that late in his career in 1925 as Babe Ruth was becoming popular for hitting lots of home runs. Cobb then went out and hit 3 home runs in his next game to prove it.
Anyway, yes, both Cobb and Suzuki chose contact over power to be overall better hitters, but the point remains that they could have chosen to hit a lot more home runs.
I’m sympathetic to Lindor as an MVP candidate, especially so if he holds a lead in WAR. But I keep coming back to Ohtani is doing this in a year ~in which he is hurt~. Lindor absolutely should get credit for playing a premium defensive position well, but if I was a voter I would give Ohtani extra credit for morphing/improving his offensive game in a year in which he is prohibited from seeing the field defensively.
I haven’t been able to make a coherent logical argument for that (yet) but it feels right. And I say this as someone who is cheering for Lindor to keep chugging along and earn his way into the HOF. Ohtani is such a superfreak, I can’t penalize him for having to “just” be a DH – like one would for an Ortiz or Cruz or Thome.
If someone can turn that into a more logical argument than “it feels right” I’d appreciate it 🙂
It’ll be interesting to see if voters remain as enamored with HR/SB combos. Last year, the 40/70 combo allowed Acuna to sweep the voting. Would a 50/50 do the same for Ohtani?
It’s interesting that this gets cited a lot, and I do think that it could have mattered in a different scenario, but Acuña by the end of the season had a pretty clear lead in value plus something of a narrative as the best player on the best team and I think had he had the same offensive value but landed at 39 home runs he would have likely still easily won the award.
I also think if Ohtani can get to 50/50 his value will grow a lot too so he’d have good odds to deserve it even without considering the historic nature. Like, if he hits 50 homers and steals 49 bases, he’s almost surely still easily winning the award.
By BWAR, Mookie led him by 0.1, but Acuna had a big lead in fWAR. Mookie did move from RF to 2B and even SS, providing value not reflected in either stat.
The Dodgers also won 100 games so it’s not like the Braves were far and away the best team, so I’m not sure that played that much into the narrative. The narrative I recall hearing was all about the unprecedented 40/70 season.
The Braves had one of the greatest offenses of all time, and the narrative, which was easy to buy, was that it was led in every way by Acuña.
The guy waltzed into LA late in the year and dominated, too, while getting married! There was so much narrative as well as value for Acuña outside of 40/70.
How about sort of the opposite of the “it feels right” argument?
I agree that what Ohtani is doing is amazing, and part of that is the knowledge that he’s a pitcher who is unable to pitch this year and has responded by elevating his already-exceptional game as a hitter.
But that aspect of the story should not affect his MVP consideration. The fact that he’s a pitcher who can’t pitch, a Japanese import, a deferred mega-million-dollar earner, all of these things are really interesting but don’t speak to his value on the field to his team this season. Ohtani should get no more credit in the MVP race than any other DH who hits an absurd number of home runs and steals a ton of bases at an elite success rate.
I think the argument for Ohtani from a non-intangibles point of view is that the DH adjustment is probably too big, and that it may generally be harder to hit as a DH. So fWAR is probably understating his value a bit, which is all it takes to close the gap.
Sorry, but I think not playing defense is an argument against Ohtani. Yeah, it’s because he’s hurt, but the fact remains that we’re comparing a very good shortstop to a full-time DH.
Lindor gets 2 points of WAR free for being a SS. Ohtani gets penalized already. They are already factored in. But the DH penalty is real.
Well, “free” in the sense that he’s among the greatest SS currently playing.The unfairness comes from knowing that Ohtani can play a perfectly cromulent corner OF but the rehab is keeping him at DH, and so it’s not hard to evaluate him without the DH penalty, WAR be damned
If the award is for what you could do, theoretically, hypothetically, if only…. rather than what you actually do….
that would be pretty silly
Maybe he could play a decent corner outfield, but he’s not doing so, and that’s all that matters as far as the 2024 MVP Award is concerned.
I don’t disagree (and even as a Dodger fan, I’d like to see Lindor get a spotlight for a change)! But I can’t disregard the *feeling* of it not being right, and for better and worse, as we’re all aware and discussing, that shapes the voting narrative
Even if you drop the DH fielding penalty to neutral value (as I think they should), that’s still 1.5 extra WAR (up to now) that Lindor gets for being a well above average shortstop
The argument for Ohtani is not related to his stepping up his game. As noted below, that really shouldn’t figure into his value for the MVP award. The best argument for him is that the DH penalty is too harsh and doesn’t account for how difficult it is, generally, to hit as a DH as opposed to a position player. FWAR currently has it very close: Lindor 6.5 to Ohtani 6.3. BWAR has it has Ohtani 6.6 to Lindor 5.8.
A more friendly DH penalty gives him the lead in both.
It’s really not a penalty.
Which is unfortunately hard to grasp because of how the formula is laid out.
Really it’s just a bonus for playing defense. Larger bonus for playing SS. The bonus is withheld from DH.
The problem with that argument is that it’s also a negative bonus for playing defense poorly, which actually hurts the team more defensively than the guy who plays no defense at all.
Though, it still applies rather well in this situation where we’re comparing that DH to a good fielder at a difficult position. It just affects how much extra defensive value Lindor gets in a straight comparison and whether or not Ohtani’s offensive edge is enough to make up for it.
Then of course, there are certain intangibles involved in the vote as to what “most valuable” means.
‘It’s not a penalty, it’s just a bonus for other players that we calculate by taking away WAR from DHs.’ Sounds like semantics?
The DH adjustment (better?) is also arbitrary. SS, 2B, LF, etc, these were all determined by studying the kind of offensive output at these positions throughout history. For the DH, they just took away an extra 5 runs, reasoning that DHs are less valuable than the weakest fielder on the field. (It wasn’t an unreasonable guess, but there’s a good argument that it was wrong.)
I’m more for Ohtani than Lindor because I’m a bit skeptical of extreme OAA numbers and I think the positional adjustment for shortstop is a touch high. But I don’t really think the “former pitcher” angle is very interesting. Back when he was a 2-way player he was fascinating, and Ohtani is one of the Top 5 hitters in MLB this year, but this year he’s just an elite hitter. Not worthy of extra bonus points.
In contrast, the AL MVP race is amazing even though I think Judge is going to win it in a landslide. From 2007 through 2024 only four position players put up double digit fWAR in a season, five if you count Ohtani’s pitching in 2022. If you exclude obvious steroid users, there were also only 10 position players with double-digit fWAR between 1961 and 2006. Bobby Witt is currently projected to have double-digit WAR on the season and still has an outside chance to have the greatest shortstop season of all time and he is a severe underdog to win the AL MVP because Judge is somehow better than that. The NL is a conventional MVP race and the AL MVP race is looking like it’s going to be one for the ages.
Man, I want Shohei to get 50/50 this year and pitch a perfect game next year and be completely untoppable in the history books.
20 W 20 HR 20 SB would be fun
20 HR, 20 SB, 200 K.
30/30/300 seems completely unattainable for Ohtani, given his arm health. But he’s already managed 200Ks with the 2022 Angels. It could happen. He only had 11 SB that year, but he had 26 the year prior and 20 the year after. He could absolutely do it.
I think the need to have these numbers be alliterative is tripping us up. Starting with a 2 is going to work for some aspects of pitching but not hitting. Let’s try another approach:
I feel like 60 is out of reach. He’s fast, but stealing that many bases takes more than speed, especially if you want to do it without costing your team opportunities. Instead, I propose:
40 Home Runs, 40 Steals, 400 Ks + Hits.
That would be absolutely peerless. I don’t expect Ohtani to pitch enough for 200 IP, which would be the preference, but 200 hits and 200 Ks in the same season would take excellence in both.
At first I thought you meant 30 Wins but now that I think about it why not?
I sort of wish that we could remove all the Ohtani hype from the equation — if it were truly restricted to on-field performance, the Ohtani/Lindor MVP race (as it appears today) would be such a perfect test case for baseball writers to argue out the positional adjustment, the value of elite defense vs. the value of eye-popping power, and so on. But as it stands, with all the preexisting discourse around the mega-contract and Ohtani’s international fame, it feels like everyone has already made up their mind. The 40-40 hype feels like hunting for a “historic” achievement to celebrate, particularly when you notice how little discussion there is of 2024’s totally novel, non-historically-comparable, juiced-by-rule context for accruing steals.
This makes me think of the 1941 AL MVP. Joe DiMaggio won the award on the strength of his (still) record 56-game hitting streak, despite how Ted Williams, with his own feat of a .406 batting average, was much more valuable offensively and led to Williams earning significantly more WAR despite DiMaggio being a much better fielder.
Don’t even have to go back that far. In 2012 Miguel Cabrera won MVP because he won the Triple Crown, despite Mike Trout leading in WAR by a significant amount.
I am still waiting for justice in the Kemp/Braun debacle
Well, Trout’s Angels also failed to make the playoffs that year, while Cabrera’s Tigers did make the playoffs.
I doubt that was as much of a voting factor back in ’41 when only one team per league went straight to the World Series.
It makes me think of the 2023 NL MVP, where Acuna destroyed Betts because of the magical 40/70 combo.
It’s been pointed out a million times but Williams hit better than DiMaggio *during the streak*.
I’ll just say that anyone who cites the “45-45 club deserves an eye roll”.
Alfonso Soriano would never have “started” that club. How about Arod as the only current member, for now, of the 42-42 club!
Rickey Henderson still lounging about waiting for anyone else to join him at the 28-87 club. Pity that even if anyone does show up, they won’t uncover the VIP room in the back marked “10-130”.
Don’t forget Sammy Sosa’s exclusive 65-15 club! Judge is really going to need to pick up the steals to join this totally real club!
Is it just me or does it feel like we’re in the reverse of the late ‘90s-early 2000s?
In the late 1990s, we saw one of the worst pitching eras combined with an above-average number of elite, HoF-level pitchers. (Maddux, Pedro, Unit, Clemens, Schilling, Smoltz, etc). Hitters, while there were still outliers, all seemed pretty good.
Today, we are seeing some awful offense with some real big outliers. For how low offense is this year, there are no Bob Gibson-esque seasons. In the way you could have a backup catcher with 30-homer power in 2001, today you have the 7th-inning guy putting up numbers that would have made someone’s jaw drop in 1999.
I don’t know what to make of it, other than, in “the hitter years” there’s a surprising number of great pitchers, and in this “pitcher’s year” there are a surprising number of great position player performances.
This is a really interesting point that I’d like to see quantified more rigorously in an offseason column. What are the “most sigmas” seasons in baseball history?
Pitching is just so good across the board now. Several more players can have 30 homer power or hit .300 when fastballs are 5 miles per hour slower. It really separates the wheat from the chaff. Guys like Ohtani and Soto and Judge and Witt are so good it doesn’t seem to matter, but everyone else looks terrible.
Also hard to have a single standout pitcher when they’re all that good (also, they don’t pitch that many innings anymore).
In the steroid era and various live-ball eras, you kind of see the reverse. When everyone is pounding the ball, guys like Maddux, Johnson, Pedro, and Schilling (and also known steroid guys like Clemens and Kevin Brown) also stand out. It takes a really impressive pitcher (or one that’s also roided out) to not really be affected by all that.
Of these players over the last 25-30 years or so that I mentioned, there are two that are just extreme outliers. That’s Aaron Judge and Pedro Martinez, who seem like they’re capable of having the best season ever. But those guys are just outliers. Those two are outliers even among outliers, and while they may not have the career numbers of some of their peers (like Randy Johnson or Mike Trout) they will have seasons that are on a different level than anyone else.
There were some articles back in the day about Pedro in which they talked about how it’s “easier” to put up an insane ERA+ in a high offensive environment, because the average ERA is so high. That’s great and all, but putting up a 1.74 ERA over a full season (Pedro in 2000) would be great in even the most pitcher-dominant era, let alone during sillyball.
I too would love to see an article on how these reverse-era outliers happen (if that’s even possible to determine). If Judge is going to end up with 63 or 64 HRs this year, should we assume that he would have hit 75 in the late 90s/early 2000s? 80? Or is he in fact, counterintuitively, a product of this era?
It’s easy to forget about Eric Davis, but man, he was good.
Now that Rich Hill has joined the Red Sox he can achieve 40 years of age and 40 K