Seriously – the Jays could cut both guys – pay them their 2011 salaries – and in getting rid of Wells’ $86 million dollar monstrosity of a contract be SO FAR ahead your head would spin!
everdiso
15 years ago
Very nice trade for my jays by young AA, but Wells gets far too much crap.
The Angels will likely move him to a corner OF spot where his defense will undoubtedly become a very large asset, and his career .346wOBA matches up nicely with Crawford’s .347wOBA.
I’ll be interested in following the Wells-Crawford comparison going forward. Both hideous contracts, but one of them getting right laughed at, while the other for some reason has recieved nothing but praise.
“Asset”?
He’s somewhere between a -5 to -10 fielder at this stage in his career in CF (but almost definitely closer to the latter). Which means he’d be dead average or slightly above average in LF or RF. If you throw in that he’s aging, it likely means slightly below average in left or right over the next 4 years. That doesn’t constitute a “very large asset”.
Also, his wOBA is hugely unbalanced: .359 at home vs .335 away. Playing in LA won’t help him one bit. Before his solid 2010 season, his WAR totals in order were 1.5, 1.5, 0.0. Comparing him to Crawford is both silly and fruitless.
Al Skorupa
15 years ago
This was fantastic. I’m still laughing – both about the trade and this chat!
DrBGiantsfan
15 years ago
Wow! Head scratcher here. I was obvious for some time that Scioscia hates Mike Napoli and wanted him gone, at any cost. That’s about all I can think of. They’ve gotta be thinking that Conger is their guy in 2011.
I don’t think the deal is as bad for the Angels as this chat made it out to be. Doesn’t change the observation that Scioscia must have hated Napoli for some reason though. I’m guessing that as a former catcher he was deeply offended at Napoli’s defense. Maybe Scioscia tried to give him some pointers and Napoli blew him off? Nap has a reputation for being somewhat of a punk amongst the Angels fans I know.
Recent evidence would seem to indicate Mike Soscia and the Angels perhaps aren’t the best evaluators of baseball talent.
Certainly there can be no question that Mike Napoli is a better player than Jeff Mathis by a wide margin. In fact, the evidence we have is that Napoli is even the superior defender.
My point above was that even if they disliked Napoli they could have simply let him walk. They had no monetary obligation to Napoli at all. To wit: disliking Napoli isn’t even a partial rationale for taking on the hilariously bad Wells contract.
Sorry I missed that live, that was hilarious.
Seriously – the Jays could cut both guys – pay them their 2011 salaries – and in getting rid of Wells’ $86 million dollar monstrosity of a contract be SO FAR ahead your head would spin!
Very nice trade for my jays by young AA, but Wells gets far too much crap.
The Angels will likely move him to a corner OF spot where his defense will undoubtedly become a very large asset, and his career .346wOBA matches up nicely with Crawford’s .347wOBA.
I’ll be interested in following the Wells-Crawford comparison going forward. Both hideous contracts, but one of them getting right laughed at, while the other for some reason has recieved nothing but praise.
“Asset”?
He’s somewhere between a -5 to -10 fielder at this stage in his career in CF (but almost definitely closer to the latter). Which means he’d be dead average or slightly above average in LF or RF. If you throw in that he’s aging, it likely means slightly below average in left or right over the next 4 years. That doesn’t constitute a “very large asset”.
Also, his wOBA is hugely unbalanced: .359 at home vs .335 away. Playing in LA won’t help him one bit. Before his solid 2010 season, his WAR totals in order were 1.5, 1.5, 0.0. Comparing him to Crawford is both silly and fruitless.
This was fantastic. I’m still laughing – both about the trade and this chat!
Wow! Head scratcher here. I was obvious for some time that Scioscia hates Mike Napoli and wanted him gone, at any cost. That’s about all I can think of. They’ve gotta be thinking that Conger is their guy in 2011.
Napoli wasn’t under contract, though – he could simply be non-tendered or released.
I don’t think the deal is as bad for the Angels as this chat made it out to be. Doesn’t change the observation that Scioscia must have hated Napoli for some reason though. I’m guessing that as a former catcher he was deeply offended at Napoli’s defense. Maybe Scioscia tried to give him some pointers and Napoli blew him off? Nap has a reputation for being somewhat of a punk amongst the Angels fans I know.
Recent evidence would seem to indicate Mike Soscia and the Angels perhaps aren’t the best evaluators of baseball talent.
Certainly there can be no question that Mike Napoli is a better player than Jeff Mathis by a wide margin. In fact, the evidence we have is that Napoli is even the superior defender.
My point above was that even if they disliked Napoli they could have simply let him walk. They had no monetary obligation to Napoli at all. To wit: disliking Napoli isn’t even a partial rationale for taking on the hilariously bad Wells contract.
“I don’t think the deal is as bad for the Angels as this chat made it out to be.”
…it may be worse. It’s hard to understate its hideousness from the Halos’ standpoint. It really is.
He seems to be doing a hell of a job!