The 2025 Classic Baseball Ballot Is Long on Familiarity, Short on Imagination

On Monday, the National Baseball Hall of Fame officially revealed the 2025 Classic Baseball Era Committee ballot, an eight-man slate covering players, managers, executives, and umpires who made their greatest impact on the game before 1980. In a rare lapse, the Hall somehow managed to steal its own thunder, as an article in the Winter 2024 volume of its bimonthly Memories and Dreams magazine revealed the identities of the eight candidates in the days ahead of the announcement. Not that it had any real effect, as the slate won’t be voted upon until the 16-member committee meets on Sunday, December 8, at the Winter Meetings in Dallas.
This is the third ballot since the Hall of Fame reconfigured its Era Committee system into a triennial format in April 2022, after a bumper crop of six honorees was elected by the Early Baseball and Golden Days Era Committees the previous December. The new format splits the pool of potential candidates into two timeframes: those who made their greatest impact on the game before 1980 (Classic Baseball Era), including Negro Leagues and pre-Negro Leagues Black players, and those who made their greatest impact from 1980 to the present day (Contemporary Baseball Era). The Contemporary group is further split into two ballots, one for players whose eligibility on BBWAA ballots has lapsed (Fred McGriff was elected in December 2022), and one for managers, executives, and umpires (Jim Leyland was elected last December). Non-players from the Classic timeframe are lumped in with players, which doesn’t guarantee representation on the final ballot.
As with any Hall election, this one requires 75% from the voters to gain entry. In this case, the as-yet-unannounced panel will consist of Hall of Famers, executives, and media members/historians, each of whom may tab up to three candidates. Anyone elected will be inducted alongside those elected by the BBWAA (whose own ballot will be released on November 18) on July 27, 2025 in Cooperstown.
Like other Era Committee ballots, this one offers candidates to get excited about and ones whose presence may induce head-scratching as we bemoan the absences of those we perceive as more worthy of consideration. Particularly with the ballot size having been reduced from 10 candidates to eight since these players were last eligible, this one feels long on familiarity and short on imagination:
| Player | Pos. | Career | JAWS | Jpos | Dif | Pos Rk |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dick Allen | 3B | 1963–1977 | 52.3 | 56.3 | -4.0 | 17 |
| Ken Boyer | 3B | 1955–1968 | 54.5 | 56.3 | -1.8 | 14 |
| John Donaldson | SP | 1912–1940* | ||||
| Steve Garvey | 1B | 1969–1987 | 33.4 | 53.4 | -20.0 | 51 |
| Vic Harris | OF/Mgr | 1922–1948** | ||||
| Tommy John | SP | 1963–1989 | 47.5 | 56.9 | -9.4 | 77 |
| Dave Parker | RF | 1973–1991 | 38.8 | 56.7 | -17.9 | 39 |
| Luis Tiant | SP | 1964–1982 | 53.7 | 56.9 | -3.2 | 44 |
While the timespan covered by this ballot could conceivably encompass 1871 (the start of the National Association, the first professional league) to 1979, the two Negro Leagues candidates, Donaldson and Harris, are the only ones who debuted before 1955. Setting their presences aside for a moment, among the notable absences are a couple of strong 19th-century shortstops, Bill Dahlen and Jack Glasscock, who respectively rank 11th and 18th in JAWS at the position. Both have been recognized by the Society for American Baseball Research as Overlooked 19th Century Base Ball Legends via an annual vote by members; to date, two such winners, Deacon White and Bud Fowler, have been elected, the latter via the 2022 Early Baseball ballot. Glasscock has never appeared on an Era Committee ballot, and according to the research of Graham Womack, he was last considered by the Veterans Committee in 1995. Dahlen is more familiar, as he received three or fewer votes on the 2022 Early Baseball ballot after getting more substantial support on the 2013 and 2016 Pre-Integration Era Committee ballots (62.5% and 50%, respectively).
I’m far less bothered by their omissions than I am that of an additional SABR Overlooked 19th Century Base Ball Legend, Daniel “Doc” Adams, whom Major League Baseball official historian John Thorn has called “first among the Fathers of Baseball” and “the most significant figure in the early history of baseball.” Adams’ contribution actually predates that 1871 date. Via his 1857 rulebook, “The Laws of Base Ball”, he bears the true responsibility for setting the bases 90 feet apart; for creating the shortstop position; for proposing the standardization of nine-man lineups and nine-inning games; and for helping to standardize the construction of balls and bats, innovations that helped to make baseball a national game. Some of his contributions have been inaccurately credited to Alexander Cartwright on his Hall of Fame plaque, and while you’d think the institution would desire to set the record straight, it’s worth remembering that the Hall’s very presence in Cooperstown is based upon the myth of General Abner Doubleday drawing up the rules in a cow pasture there in 1839 — but I digress. What really chafes is that Adams led all candidates on the 2016 Pre-Integration ballot with 62.5% of the vote — nobody was elected from that slate — but hasn’t gotten another shot.
Speaking of predating integration, Harris (62.5%) and Donaldson (50%) were the top two near-misses from the 2022 Early Baseball ballot, which itself marked the first time that Negro Leagues and pre-Negro Leagues Black baseball candidates were considered since 17 were elected via the 2006 Special Committee on the Negro Leagues. Since that earlier date, there’s been an explosion of research and scholarship with regards to Black baseball. Seven professional leagues from the 1920–1948 period have been recognized as major leagues, and their statistical data — which has been painstakingly reconstructed, box score by box score, by diligent researchers — is now on Baseball Reference and FanGraphs.
As with Harris and Donaldson, a few other candidates from the 2022 Early Baseball ballot, Dick “Cannonball” Redding, George “Tubby” Scales, and Grant “Home Run” Johnson, are considered by experts to be among the top ones outside the Hall. They’re hardly alone, with names such as John Beckwith, Rap Dixon, Dick Lundy, Charles “Chino” Smith, owner Gus Greenlee and more often cited by those same experts. I have suggested before that the backlog among Negro Leagues candidates merits a separate Era Committee ballot to be evaluated by a panel of expert historians, as the average Hall committee member may not be well-versed enough to compare their merits to those of, say, a contemporary who played against them in the 1970s.
Given the high levels of representation for AL/NL players from the 1920s through the ’50s, nobody should be too broken up about this ballot’s lack of candidates from that stretch, but from the period after that, more variety would be welcome. Consider how often some of the six non-Negro Leagues candidates have come up for election over the past decade and a half, most without ever making waves:
| Player | 2011 Expansion | 2012 Golden | 2014 Expansion | 2015 Golden | 2018 Modern | 2020 Modern | 2022 Golden Days |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dick Allen | 68.8% | 68.8% | |||||
| Ken Boyer | <18.8% | <18.8% | <25% | ||||
| Steve Garvey | <50% | <37.5% | <43.8% | 37.5% | |||
| Tommy John | <50% | <37.5% | <43.8% | <18.8% | |||
| Dave Parker | <37.5% | <43.8% | 43.8% | ||||
| Luis Tiant | <18.8% | <18.8% | <43.8% |
Customarily, the Hall lumps together all of the players who drew relatively little support as “receiving fewer than x” votes or something along those lines to avoid embarrassing a candidate (or his descendants) with the news that he was shut out. Of the 19 appearances from the six players above, only four were above that threshold, with Allen accounting for two; he missed election by one vote each time.
When I spoke to Hall president Josh Rawich about the committee format change in 2022, he suggested the new process would created more turnover than we had been witnessing. “There was definitely a feeling [among the Hall’s board members] that we wanted to make sure that we’re not looking at a lot of the same players every single time,” he said at the time. “Once somebody’s had a chance to be reviewed a number of times, it’s time to let somebody else get looked at.”
Yet here we are, again debating the merits of Garvey, Parker et al, guys who were no doubt famous and popular in their day but whose career resumés had notable flaws even then (to say nothing of their off-field misadventures) and who don’t look particularly great using the yardsticks by which we’ve measured candidates more recently, including WAR and JAWS. In the first table, note those ranks, and the gaps between their numbers and the standards.
While these candidates have gotten several chances, some of their impressive contemporaries have not. Catcher Bill Freehan, who played for the Tigers from 1961–1976, made 11 All-Star teams and ranks 16th in JAWS at an underrepresented position. Since getting less than 5% in his lone BBWAA ballot appearance in 1982, he has yet to appear on a committee ballot. Second baseman Bobby Grich, who played for the Orioles and Angels from 1970-1986, made six All-Star teams and ranks eighth in JAWS at the position, is in the same boat. Third baseman Graig Nettles, who lasted four years on the writers ballot, made six All-Star teams and ranks 12th in JAWS, but he’s never been on a committee ballot. Catcher Thurman Munson, a former MVP who made seven All-Star teams before dying in a plane crash at age 32, ranks 12th in JAWS but has made just one committee ballot.
(Note that some other players whose absences I’ve questioned in the past, such as Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans, and Keith Hernandez, have been classified as belonging to the Contemporary Baseball field. I suspect I’ll be kvetching about some of their omissions next year.)
Another notable absence is that of Curt Flood. A center fielder who won seven Gold Gloves and made three All-Star teams, he played a key role on the Cardinals’ three pennant winners and two champions in the 1960s. He hit .300 or better six times, no small feat in a pitcher-friendly era, but didn’t have much power, and so he produced just a 100 OPS+, with a good chunk of his 41.9 WAR owing to his defense. Because his career effectively ended at age 31, he doesn’t have Hall-caliber numbers, but it’s a mistake to treat his candidacy only on the merits of his play. After being traded from the Cardinals to the Phillies (in a blockbuster involving Allen), the 31-year-old Flood challenged the reserve clause binding a player to a team in perpetuity, and in doing so effectively sacrificed his career. His fight galvanized players to continue pushing to end the policy, opening the door to free agency and a whole new ballgame in terms of player mobility and salaries.
Flood peaked at 15.1% via the writers, and at 17.1% via the expanded Veterans Committee. He has yet to place on an Era Committee ballot, and I suspect it’s because the players — particularly the Hall of Famers who would be voting on his candidacy — haven’t been vocal enough. MLBPA executive director Tony Clark has spoken up on Flood’s behalf, as have politicians. David Cone and Tom Glavine — then the AL and NL player representatives — expressed their gratitude for Flood when he died in 1997, and Gerrit Cole made a point of citing him when he signed his $324 million contract in 2019. But have you ever seen the likes of Derek Jeter, Ken Griffey Jr., Greg Maddux or any other high-profile Hall of Famer use their bully pulpit to suggest Flood get elected? I haven’t.
Hell, the players who benefitted from the union’s increased power couldn’t get it right with former executive director Marvin Miller in his lifetime. (Reggie Jackson, one of the earliest beneficiaries of free agency, never struck out in more embarrassing fashion than when he told reporters in 2003, when Miller was a candidate, “I looked at those ballots, and there was no one to put in.”) Particularly now that virtually every living Hall of Famer likely to turn up on a committee was greatly enriched by Flood’s sacrifice, there shouldn’t be any holdouts, as there were when it came to old-timers and Miller. If the players want him considered, they’ll need to take the fight public, in a unified fashion that works outside of the traditional, secretive way that the ballot is constructed.
Speaking of which, the ballot was built by a 10-member BBWAA-appointed Historical Overview Committee of veteran writers: Adrian Burgos (University of Illinois), Bob Elliott (Canadian Baseball Network); Jim Henneman (formerly Baltimore Sun); Steve Hirdt (Stats Perform); David O’Brien (The Athletic); Jack O’Connell (BBWAA); Jim Reeves (formerly Fort Worth Star-Telegram); Glenn Schwarz (formerly San Francisco Chronicle); Susan Slusser (San Francisco Chronicle); and Mark Whicker (Southern California News Group). While they may have all sat on Era Committees before, they’re not voters in this election. Last year’s panel consisted of seven Hall of Famers (including executives Bud Selig and Joe Torre), six non-Hall executives, and three media members/historians. Lamentably, one can usually find connections between the voters and candidates that tend to telegraph certain outcomes; when Harold Baines was elected on the 2019 Modern Baseball ballot, the panel included a former manager (Tony LaRussa), general manager (Pat Gillick), and owner (Jerry Reinsdorf) with significant links to his career. Chipper Jones and Maddux, McGriff’s teammates, were on the 2023 Contemporary committee; with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens both candidates, one couldn’t help notice the presence of Frank Thomas and Ryne Sandberg, each known for their public criticism regarding performance-enhancing drug users.
Each voter can list up to three candidates on their ballot, down from four votes apiece for slates of 10 candidates from the previous system. As Dan Szymborski and I showed in 2022 with the help of some Monte Carlo simulations, this increases the possibility of a shutout and decreases the likelihood of electing multiple candidates.
Omissions aside, what are we to make of this ballot? The glass half-full view, I think, is that some of those familiar faces are electoral ballast. I don’t mean to besmirch their careers or their character in saying that. Everybody on this ballot was a great player at some point; the debates center around whether they were great enough for long enough. As Dan and I tried to illustrate, the lesser candidacies create some of the polarization necessary to avoid a shutout. If you have eight candidates, none of them locks, with a wide spread in terms of the likelihood that an individual voter chooses them, you’ll produce a much higher yield (more candidates elected) and a lower chance of a shutout than if the candidates are more closely clustered together in terms of their appeal. Here’s a summary of three scenarios that we ran:
| Candidate | Odds | Votes | Odds | Votes | Odds | Votes | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 72% | 11.5 | 60% | 9.6 | 50% | 8.0 | ||
| 2 | 62% | 9.9 | 60% | 9.6 | 50% | 8.0 | ||
| 3 | 52% | 8.3 | 50% | 8.0 | 50% | 8.0 | ||
| 4 | 42% | 6.7 | 40% | 6.4 | 50% | 8.0 | ||
| 5 | 33% | 5.3 | 25% | 4.0 | 25% | 4.0 | ||
| 6 | 23% | 3.7 | 25% | 4.0 | 25% | 4.0 | ||
| 7 | 13% | 2.1 | 20% | 3.2 | 25% | 4.0 | ||
| 8 | 3% | 0.5 | 20% | 3.2 | 25% | 4.0 | ||
| Total Votes | 48.0 | 48.0 | 48.0 | |||||
| Yield (elected) | 0.80 | 0.38 | 0.15 | |||||
| Shutout | 35% | 67% | 86% |
In the first one, we tried to approximate a situation where the eight candidates are all clearly separated, with a favorite, a second-favorite, and so on all the way down to the longest longshot; the Odds are the chances that a given candidate randomly lands on a ballot in that simulation. In the second and third scenarios, we reduced the spread; the second one has a few different tiers, the third one just two tiers. Since there’s a maximum of 48 votes each time, the higher the odds of the lesser candidates landing on the ballot, the lower the yield and the greater the chance of a shutout, as you can see from the summaries in gray.
All of which is to say that this might be the best chance for Allen and the two Negro Leagues candidates to be elected, not that all three getting to 75% is likely. Then again, a group of voters rethinking, say, how much credit to award Tommy John for the surgery that bears his name could alter the electoral landscape, as could the October 8 death of Luis Tiant. On the latter note, I’ve written before about the collision between baseball immortality and human mortality; in fact, Ron Santo’s plight — after several near misses in his lifetime, he was elected about a year after dying — spawned the foundational chapter of The Cooperstown Casebook. Allen died on December 7, 2020, one day after his candidacy was originally scheduled to be considered, though by that point, the COVID-19 pandemic had postponed the Golden Days Era Committee election for a year; he fell one vote short while four other candidates were unanimously elected.
Over the next few weeks, I’ll delve into such specifics as I update and republish my profile of each candidate. I’ll have coverage of the election results from Dallas as well. Stay tuned!
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Maybe this is the year Dick Allen gets His due.
What a great write-up.
Dick Redding, Grant Johnson are egregious omissions. So are Bobby Grich, Jack Glasscock and Lou Whitaker
John Beckwith and Bill Dahlen were clear HOF players with supposedly terrible personalities, and are not so “famous” that their omission draws attention.
Curt Flood is as massively important as Marvin Miller.
Keith Hernandez and Graig Nettles are easily deserving but a cut below the egregious omissions for me.
Thank you for giving them attention.
If it wasn’t for Flood and Miller, most baseball players might still be working second jobs in the winter. Which is why I don’t understand them getting more support from former players.
Dick Allen has always been a serious omission for me. I’m glad he’s getting another chance, although it would have been better to elect him when he was around to see it.
I also think that Tommy John probably deserves to get in. I realize he didn’t invent the Tommy John procedure, but he was still a trailblazer. At the minimum, he was the first person to ever successfully rehab from it!
Frank Jobe deserves it then
I’ve always thought a Jobe/John dual induction would be appropriate. Although Dr. Jobe is no longer with us.
I agree. I thought for some reason he was already in, but he definitely should be.
That just means Tommy had the right (or wrong?) injury at the right time, not anything really worth celebrating for him personally, aside from the additions to the career numbers that he got due to getting a second chance at his career. It could’ve been any MLB pitcher who got that chance.
If anyone, it’s Frank Jobe, the surgeon who developed the surgery, who should be considered for the Hall of Fame on the merit of being the trailblazer of the surgery.
My prediction:
Dick Allen yes
Luis Tiant yes, or one vote short
I would have guessed “yes” for John Donaldson, and “no” for Vic Harris – but looks like Harris got more votes in 2022. Prediction that both fall 1-2 votes short.
No one else with 50%.
I guess I should see who the committee is before locking those in.
I consider Allen, Harris, Donaldson, Boyer and Tiant worthy of votes. Would be tough to have to pick only three of them. It would not upset me if Dave Parker or Tommy John ever squeaked in, but they are a cut below the others. Garvey is an easy no.
Tiant is easily worthy
I think the rules and candidates for this one would almost guarantee a shutout. Except for collusion. We can only hope they collude well enough to somehow get 2 players in.
It’s too early to say without knowing the electorate. Since Dick Allen missed by one vote, I think guys like that tend to get the momentum in these meetings.
I really don’t understand the need/desire to limit how many candidates someone can vote for. Neither for this, nor for the regular ballot. If someone thinks Player X was a Hall of Famer, let them vote for that person free of restrictions.
Didn’t the reduction happen after the big class of Bud Fowler, Gil Hodges, Jim Kaat, Minnie Minoso and Buck O’Neil in 2022? I got the sense that the National Baseball Hall of Fame wanted to recognize old timers but not water it down like you saw with the Pro Football Hall of Fame enshrining 20 as recently as 2020.
This would be fun. If there really no restrictions I’d probably vote for 30-40 people like Dickey Pearce, Sadaharu Oh, James McLaughlin and David Cone.
Unfortunately I don’t think each would be discussed enough to make anyone’s case.
With small committees like this, it wouldn’t take more than two or three members each time to throw caution to the wind and vote for almost everyone on the ballot, thus leading to a slew of undeserved elections as bad as or even worse than Baines. As such, the vote limit is needed even more badly than it is for the BBWAA.
The deceased on this ballot are the strongest candidates. I still would like to see someone living honored. I wasn’t wild about Jim Kaat’s election but seeing an ambassador for baseball for so many years get recognized on the stage was heartwarming. Same with Tony Oliva. I’m still heartbroken that Bill White fell short last year. If it’s living players, I guess Tommy John would be the most qualified based on his career WAR.
I was fine with Jim Kaat getting in. In my eyes, he paid the waiting game tax for not meeting the writer’s criteria during his original time on the ballot. Players like Jim Kaat have a place in the Hall of Fame and the waiting period is their differentiator from a First Ballot candidate. Additionally, voting them in while they’re alive makes way more sense then what happened to Ron Santo, Gil Hodges or maybe one day Dick Allen.
Agree on your last point, but the example of Hodges is not a good one as he died at age 47.
He got the lifetime achievement award. He’s a member of the Joe Torre wing of the Hall- and rightly so
Adrian Burgos wrote a damn fine book to get Minnie Minoso in. I wonder who his projec(s)t is/are now? I hope it’s Dick Allen.
Which book is this? I’m not finding it
It’s Cuban Star which isn’t about Minoso per se but about the owner of the New York Cubans, Alejandro Pompez and contextualizes Minoso’s career. (I went to grad school with Dr. Burgos who is the only Yankee fan I don’t hate on about the Yankees because he grew up in the shadow of Yankee Stadium).
Thanks, I will look for that. I read his “Playing America’s Game” and would gladly read more of him.
Every year when it’s Hall of Fame time, I wonder when the write ups on repeat ballot candidates start appearing how much of this is just copy and paste from the year(s) prior or in this case from articles written as far back as during your Sports Illustrated days
Regardless, I don’t believe the Hall and in this case the writers putting together the ballot for who they think are the best Classic Era (Veterans) Hall of Fame candidates should swap out players for the sake of providing different options. It’s very likely in their eyes the players that tend to show up on repeat ballots are viewed as omissions by the Hall regardless of what modern statistics like WAR or your self-titled JAWS may say.
Justice for Dick Allen and El Tiante!
Please, Steve Garvey again?!? Garvey would open the dialogue up about Will Clark, Mattingly, Olerud, Delgado, Hernandez, and a host of other 1b….. Garvey was a good player but not a HoFer. Tiant and Dick Allen yes.
I know there’s a lot of fatigue about Garvey and he didn’t get a lot of support from writers before the popularity of sabermetrics. Advanced metrics haven’t helped his case. I can’t say I have a problem with him being on the ballot because he did play in a lot of big games and had his share of big moments. He has the NL record for consecutive games played and he was the leading vote getter for the NL at the 1985 All-Star Game even in his later years. When he was active, he had the persona of a great player.
Seriously. His corner-mate on those Dodger squads, Ron Cey, was twice the ballplayer Garvey was, and no-one pretends he’s HOF worthy.
Cey wouldn’t be a terrible choice. He’s behind a bunch of other guys for me but he’d be a better pick than Jim Rice and Fred McGriff
The whole “once someone is considered then give someone else a chance” argument falls apart with the 3-vote limit. It’s a crapshoot (or not, wink wink) whether a worthy candidate gets lucky enough to be on a ballot with comparable duds.
The HOF didn’t like the surge of elections from this side of the house. So they gutted it and now you get only one at most and more likely zero.
Dick allen surely needs to go in. 2X one vote shy. Seems like they need to put him in and accept that the rest are in the HOVG and start looking at guys like Freehan and Grich
Parker and Allen deserve it. Tiant will get it due to the recency..