The Elbow Gods Punish the White Sox Again

On Tuesday, the White Sox announced that Carlos Rodón will undergo Tommy John surgery, prematurely ending his 2019 season. With a 12-to-16 month rehabilitation period generally the norm for pitchers undergoing TJ, even a sunny scenario for Rodón would put a serious dent in his 2020 season; a cloudier one makes it unlikely he returns to Chicago until his 2021 season.

For Rodón, it’s obviously a disaster, another setback in a career that had already been largely derailed by injuries in 2017 and 2018. Rodón was drafted third in the 2014 draft out of NC State. At the time, one of the things about Rodón that interested the White Sox was that he was quite polished, even for a top college pitcher, and as a result, was likely to get to the majors very quickly.

The White Sox were correct in this analysis. Rodón’s major league debut, a relief appearance against the Cleveland Indians early in 2015, was only his 12th game as a professional. Three relief appearances later — including two rather lengthy ones at 60 and 63 pitches — Rodón entered the rotation. He acquitted himself quite well as a rookie, with a 3.87 FIP in 139.1 innings, good enough for 1.8 WAR, even as he was a little lucky in his homers allowed. He showed continued progression in 2016, dropping over a walk a game, and ended up with a 4.04 ERA, a 4.01 FIP, and 2.8 WAR.

Since mid-2016, Rodón has racked up an unfortunate injury history. First, he missed a month in 2016 slipping on the dugout steps, spraining his wrist. Sadly, this is a story I know all too well, having been forced to wear a wrist brace about a decade ago after a similar fall on my stairs; there was feline involvement.

In injuries of a less-freakish variety, Rodón missed half of 2017 due to elbow bursitis and at the end of the season, missed time due to shoulder inflammation that eventually lead to surgery. His velocity wasn’t noticeably worse than it had been in the past, but he was missing three strikeouts a game and was generally more erratic than usual.

Rodón still feels a lot like a pitcher who hasn’t touched his upside and it’s hard to know exactly how much of that to attribute to the injuries. But regardless of why, you can see the change in his career trajectory that the missing time and lack of forward development have caused.

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ZiPS Career Projections – Carlos Rodón
Year IP ERA WAR Rest-of-Career Rank (P)
Before 2015 1258.0 4.11 18.6 80th
Before 2016 2215.7 3.93 34.2 11th
Before 2017 2138.0 3.88 37.7 9th
Before 2018 1981.0 4.01 31.1 23rd
Before 2019 1799.7 4.16 23.9 59th
Before 2020 1412.7 4.20 18.2 181st*

The asterisk is where his rest-of-career WAR would rank compared to pitchers before 2019. I obviously can’t project how everyone’s projection will look before 2020, because, well, it’s May.

The cumulative effect has been to set Rodón’s long-term risk back to about the level where it was before he ever played a major league game. And relative to where he was going into the 2016 season, that has cost him, on-average, $85 million in career earnings.

The loss of Rodón also puts a serious damper on the White Sox’s already-slim postseason odds. ZiPS doesn’t project seasonal numbers by using a single roster-strength projections, but by first estimating a likely distribution of roster-strength, based on variability of the projections and variability in playing time. For the latter, each starting player has a skewed distribution of expected playing time (there are lots of things that can make Mike Trout have 500 fewer PA than expected, and none that can give him 500 more).

Before the announcement of Rodón’s Tommy John surgery, after his second opinion, ZiPS projected a 0.4% chance of the White Sox making the playoffs. But in 77% of those playoff appearances, the roster strength was derived from a scenario in which Rodón pitched at least 100 more innings (which he was projected to do 50% of the time).

In other words, Rodón’s health was a key factor in the White Sox making a Cinderella run, and not a simple preference. Now Cinderella doesn’t have magic rat-horses to pull her pumpkin carriage. To get to the playoffs, she’ll now have to call some kind of turnip Uber on her zucchini phone, which is totally preposterous — we know they didn’t have internet in that world.

This isn’t the first elbow-related disaster that has struck White Sox pitching recently. Michael Kopech and Dane Dunning both saw their 2019 seasons end early (or never begin) due to Tommy John surgery. Before surgery, the top three projected White Sox pitchers by ZiPS WAR for 2019 were…Michael Kopech, Carlos Rodón, and Dane Dunning. While I’m increasingly confident that Giolito’s work with his nasty changeup means his improvement is mostly for real, losing three such pitchers didn’t just make Chicago’s playoff quest in 2019 more difficult; it makes the future ones more challenging as well.

ZiPS Projections – Rodón/Kopech/Dunning
Player Projected WAR (pre-injury) Projected WAR (post-injury)
Carlos Rodón (2019-2021) 5.8 1.9
Michael Kopech (2019-2024) 15.2 11.4
Dane Dunning (2019-2025) 10.3 7.1
Total 31.3 20.4

At least in the eyes of the ZiPS projections, the respective surgeries for this trio have knocked off about a third of the number of wins they’re expected to generate for the team, assuming no contract extensions past the first year of free agency. Losing 11 future wins is not a rounding error. It’s something that has to be made up for somewhere. And since teams can’t just decide “Hey, let’s develop more pitching prospects,” it’s likely the difference will have to be made up financially.

Chicago’s rebuilding process continues, but it’s a little farther back now than it was a month ago.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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brood550
7 years ago

In the immediate Cease and Kabat are the most likely options. Covey is basically a place holder and Banuelos was pretty much the same. Now that Rodon is gone for next year and Nova would need to be resigned, if the White Sox are contending after the draft, should they make a run at Keuchel on a long-term deal?

BufordMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  brood550

Forget Keuchel and 2019. Take that money and more toward signing upcoming free agent Gerrit Cole. If the Sox are ever going to spend big on a free agent and soon, Cole should be the one.

A 2020 rotation of Cole, Giolito, Lopez, Kopech, and Cease would be impressive.

Psychic... Powerless...
7 years ago
Reply to  Buford

I question whether Cole would sign with the White Sox unless they’re the highest bidder, which seems unlikely.

BufordMember since 2016
7 years ago

Don’t the vast majority of free agents sign with the highest bidder?

However, I agree that the Sox are unlikely to outbid the big spenders especially the Yankees who first drafted Cole out of high school but were unable to sign him.

Psychic... Powerless...
7 years ago
Reply to  Buford

Yes, the one exception I can think of offhand is my all-time favorite player, Mad Dog 31.

Shalesh
7 years ago
Reply to  brood550

No, DepthCharts projects the White Sox at 70-92 so even if they continued to stay within 4 games or so of the Wild Card 3 weeks from now, the White Sox shouldn’t be buyers. I’d rather apply the $80M over 4 years that 31yo Keuchel wants to get 29yo Gerrit Cole (who’ll probably fetch something close to Corbin’s $140M) or Anthony Rendon in this winter’s FA.

BufordMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

Great minds think alike.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

Rodon actually looked like he might have turned a corner. It’s really too bad.

sgp2204
7 years ago

Just bring up Cease now so the fans can enjoy watching him for a little while before he gets hurt.

fjtorres
7 years ago

The “funny” thing is the White Sox under Cooper were reputed to have some secret that let them keep their pitchers healthy while other teams were decimated by injuries.

BufordMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

The “secret” was their trainer – Herm Schneider.

LHPSU
7 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

Makes perfect sense. The Elbow Gods have come to collect their payment.

fjtorres
7 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

Somebody forgot to set out the annual bucket of KFC.

FrancoLuvHateMets
7 years ago

At least the shoulder gods haven’t visited them?

sgp2204
7 years ago

yet…

rhswanzey
7 years ago

There are a lot of position players getting time on this year’s club who will not be starting on its next playoff team. Outfield, 2B, C, and to a lesser extent Alonso are the egregious examples. I realize this is an article about injury luck with the pitching, but I repeat myself: fans have to have serious doubts in this organization’s plan. I’m not sure this club is any closer to contention than it was before it traded its previous core away. You might just rather have Sale, Eaton and scrubs than this group. Sale by himself is easily better than any player on the White Sox roster.

Shalesh
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

Sure, but Sale/Eaton/Quintana/Abreu plus Frazier, Robertson and young Tim Anderson and Rodon peaked at 78 wins. That team had the worst farm system in baseball which meant adding additions to 8 or 9 quality players was impossible. That team had to be rebuilt.

The sluggish rebuild that has followed has been more a result of a wave of injuries to the White Sox’ top prospects, the slow-out-of-the-gate performances of Rodon/Anderson/Moncada/Giolito, the poor trade of Tatis for Shields, and the too-careful pursuit of Machado.

If Moncada and Giolito had splashed liked Juan Soto and Walker Buehler and Kopech stormed 2019 like Chris Paddack, I think fans would be much more optimistic about this team and management would have been more aggressive in signing Machado. Alas, that hasn’t happened….yet.

rhswanzey
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

I’m not sure it did have to be blown up. Quality players have been signed to low salary and even minor league deals over the past two seasons; it’s just not difficult to find low end regulars and back end starters right now.

Chris Sale is coming off of 6.0 and 6.8 bWAR seasons; the White Sox had no 5+ WAR seasons and just four 3+ WAR seasons over the previous two. In a way, that’s speaking to your point that there was not a good enough core in place to build a playoff team. My thought is that even among good farm systems, it’s uncommon to graduate a 5+ WAR producer. It’s also uncommon to field a playoff team without at least one and probably two or three of those. I wonder if a better rebuild plan is to have the inside track extending Sale as the farm system matures, and trading some of the secondary “core” pieces instead. Hindsight is 20/20.

Shalesh
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

No, it wouldn’t have worked to keep Sale. WS had to get Moncada and Kopech (and Basabe). The rest of the system was garbage.

I’m not sure why Hahn didn’t trade for Pham and Tim Beckham would have been marginally better than Yolmer Sanchez, I suppose. Trading for Yonder Alonso made no sense. But the Reds just traded for Puig, Gray, Wood, and Roark and the results so far haven’t been good.

No, they had to collect Moncada, Kopech, Basabe, Giolito, Lopez, Dunning, Jimenez, Cease, Rutherford through trades; spend $50M on Luis Robert and tank to get Madrigal and now probably CJ Abrams. As sadtrombone says, they need to revamp their player development so all these quality prospects can succeed.

rhswanzey
7 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

The breakout version of Moncada (age 24 season) projects as a 3 WAR player this year per both ZiPS and Steamer. And it may yet be Hot April Moncada, not breakout Moncada.

I think we’re talking past each other. Yes, there are lots of quality prospects in this system, and sure, it’s not impossible to assemble a well rounded playoff team full of 2 WAR guys and a couple 3-4s. I’m just saying I strongly prefer a couple top 25-50 players in their twenties and go from there. In any given farm system I think the unofficial over/under for number of 5+ WAR seasons to expect during pre FA years is much, much higher in fans’ minds than reality bestows. If you don’t believe me, how many 5+ WAR seasons did the Greatest Farm Ever, the ~2010 Royals, produce? Then again, it provided the core that won a WS, so there goes my argument.

It’s a changing slope $/WAR argument. The bottom falling out of FA market while top end gets paid suggests successful teams are valuing WAR less incrementally than we do. The first and even second WAR for a given roster spot isn’t hard to find. The sixth or seventh is extremely expensive and scarce. Teams with any of that tier of player are ahead of virtually all of those that don’t.

Shalesh
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

I take your point on prospect skepticism and probability, but they had Sale/Q/Eaton in their 20’s and decided that their terrible farm system would prevent them from getting “there”: there was no “there” available to the 2016 WS. They had to trade a 6-win player in hopes of getting 2 4-win players 3-4 years down the line and match them with prospects on a similar timeline from near-simultaneous trades, Luis Robert, and the draft. It still may work, though I’d submit so far the outcome has been on the unlucky side of the probability distribution.

As a fan of the WS, I can also say that you’re over-estimating the ease of getting 2-win players. There are a lot of bad players all over MLB, not just on the WS. Sure, you can trade an FV40 to rent one at the ASB, but there’s no percentage in that for a bad team like the WS. Tommy Pham was a golden opportunity, but that’s why the Rays are the best-run team in the game.

One final point: if they keep Sale and he, like many pitchers, got injured, they’re screwed for years. They couldn’t take that risk and cashed him in for multiple top prospects.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

Really? Sale is a free agent after this year and netted Moncada and Kopech, Eaton is no longer a star and got them Giolito (who actually looks good now), and Quintana (who was conveniently left out) netted Eloy and Cease.

The real concerns are with the amateur acquisition and development–Madrigal has shown no power at all, Adolfo and Collins can’t seem to keep from striking out, etc. It’s a little unfair to blame them for Burger’s injuries, and Luis Robert looks like he might make enough contact to stick now, but the real concerns for me aren’t with the trades.

rhswanzey
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

“and Quintana (who was conveniently left out) netted Eloy and Cease.”

everyone’s got an agenda! relax, I forgot him.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

lol. motivated forgetting.

sgp2204
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

The OF has reinforcements coming as soon as next year. Mendick should be getting time at 2B in the near future until Madrigal is *hopefully* ready. McCann *should* platoon at C with Collins, starting this year. And Alonso shouldn’t be anywhere near the roster – everyone knows why he was added, and it didn’t work. Move on. Not all prospects get fast tracked to the majors. Give them time to develop.

In addition to the guys that haven’t made it up yet, fans should be absolutely thrilled with the left side of the infield right now. They should also be thrilled with how good Giolito has looked in the majority of his starts, and they should be encouraged by some of the signs Lopez has shown. Both pitchers still need to show more consistency, obviously, but they both have looked significantly better at times than they did last year (especially Giolito). If Moncada, Anderson, Eloy, Giolito, and Lopez show well this year, the season will be a MASSIVE success for the rebuild, even with the injuries.

Oh yah, and Sale by himself is easily better than any player on just about any roster, so that’s not saying much…

thepainguy
7 years ago

It’s not the elbow gods, it’s the Tommy John Twist.

http://clients.chrisoleary.com/Pitching/The-Epidemic/The-Big-Five/Tommy-John-Surgery-Twist

And taking it seriously would give you an injury deflator that would increase the accuracy of your predictions.