The Pirates and History Before History

A few weeks ago, late in July, Bryce Harper beat up on the Pirates. In a game his Nationals won 9-7, Harper finished 3-for-5 with a double and a dinger. For good measure, he reached on a hit by pitch, and his homer was a walk-off bomb. Every hit in the major leagues is difficult, but maybe in his head, Harper felt like he had more of an opportunity; Harper hasn’t been alive to see the Pirates finish with a .500 record. Two days after the Pirates were eliminated from the 1992 playoffs, Harper was born in Las Vegas, Nevada. His entire life, the Pirates have been a joke.

On Tuesday, the Pirates traded for Marlon Byrd to make themselves better, which is a sentence that makes sense in 2013. And it wasn’t an attempt to improve a lackluster on-field product — the Pirates have their eyes on the playoffs, and they’re currently in an excellent position. They’re right behind the Cardinals in the National League Central, and they’re eight up on the Diamondbacks in the wild-card standings. If and when the Pirates qualify for the postseason, it’ll be an historic moment. But there’s another historic moment they’ll probably have to pass through first: the occasion of their 81st win.

The Pirates, right now, are 76-55, which gives them one of the best records in baseball. A guaranteed .500+ record could be just days away, and of course the Pirates themselves aren’t aiming that low. The Pirates wouldn’t be satisfied just finishing .500, nor should they be. They’re thinking much bigger. But then, last year’s Pirates were once 63-47. They finished 16-36. That 81st win ought to be an event, presuming the Pirates manage to get there.

All they need are five more wins, out of 31 remaining games. Finishing 5-26 would be good for a .161 winning percentage, which would be good enough, toward this end. Not long ago in a chat I was asked about the proper Pittsburgh crowd response upon clinching No. 81. It doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen at home; the Pirates have five home games before going on a nine-game road trip. But it does seem like it’s going to happen somewhere, soon, and the rest of this post is all about probability. Our assumption is that the Pirates will win at least 81 games. But what are the chances they don’t?

Here are the most important numbers:

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  • the number of games the Pirates have left

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  • the maximum number of games the Pirates can win and still finish under .500

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All this is now is a matter of binomial probability. A better way might be running game-by-game simulations, but I can’t do that, and going binomial should get us close enough anyway in way way less time. Here’s a histogram, showing the probability distribution of win totals down the stretch:

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The single most likely outcome is that the Pirates finish 16-15, that coming with 14.2% odds. There’s nearly an eight-in-ten chance the Pirates win between 13 and 19 games. At either end, the lines basically reach 0%; math never expects the extremes.

Here’s another plot, showing two curves that are basically the opposite of one another.

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The Pirates have a 99.2% chance of winning at least ten games the rest of the way. They have a 2.2% chance of winning at most ten games the rest of the way. Everything here ought to be pretty intuitive, and of course we don’t care about ten wins. We care about four wins.

We’re curious about the Pirates finishing no better than 4-27. The approximate odds of the Pirates winning four or fewer games: 0.000685%. Another way of putting that is once per 146,029 opportunities. If you replayed the same scenario once a year for a million years, in six or seven years you’d expect the Pirates to finish 4-27 or worse. The odds are not literally zero. The odds are pretty much never literally zero. They’re effectively zero, with just enough likelihood to make the most negative Pirates fans nervous.

What kind of precedent is there for a team doing that poorly? As it happens, one doesn’t have to go very far back. Over a stretch just last season, the Astros went 4-34, entering that stretch at a vaguely respectable 32-43. You’ll notice that 4-34 is even worse than 4-27. But what the Pirates have going in their favor is that they’re the Pirates, and the Pirates are a legitimate major-league baseball team, unlike the last few versions of baseball in Houston. People notice when a team up and just stops winning. The teams that do that generally aren’t good teams. Or even decent teams, and this year’s Pirates are decent, at the very least.

Incidentally, the Pirates have lost three games in a row. Their odds of winning fewer than five games the rest of the way are basically negligible, but they’re more than six times higher than their odds of winning fewer than five games the rest of the way before this little three-game skid. Pirates players are right to be focusing on making the playoffs. Pirates fans are justified to be just a tiny bit anxious. Everyone will feel a whole hell of a lot better once 81 is in the rear-view mirror.

As a fan of underdogs, like everyone else, I have a soft spot for the Pirates, and I’m glad to see them going in the right direction. It’s not just that the Pirates have reinvigorated a baseball community; it’s that, if the Pirates can do it, anyone can do it, and there’s no such thing as a truly hopeless franchise. The Pirates feel fresh, and a big part of me would like to see them in the postseason. There’s just that little tiny bit, though, that thinks it’d be hysterical if the Pirates somehow collapsed again. They could collapse and miss the playoffs, or even more improbably, they could collapse and finish under .500. It would all but require a miracle, but it’d definitely get people talking. That might be enough to convince people to distance themselves from the Pirates, permanently. That’s what a curse would look like.

The most devastating of all potential outcomes? Somehow, the Pirates finish 81-81. Somehow, another team also finishes 81-81, tying the Pirates for the second wild card. The Pirates then lose the one-game playoff, with that one-game playoff counting toward their regular-season record. It’s the stuff of recurring nightmares, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. But, holy smokes. It’s not truly impossible.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Pirates Hurdles
13 years ago

“There’s just that little tiny bit, though, that thinks it’d be hysterical if the Pirates somehow collapsed again.”

Seriously Jeff! That’s it, I’m going to laugh at any Mariner misfortune in the near future. 😉

A 4-27 finish would be debilitating to the fanbase, they might as well implode PNC and move the team. That is not one bit humorous. Of course it won’t happen, the playoffs will.

genghiskhanull
13 years ago

I would cry and cry and cry and cry and cry. There aren’t a lot of things I can think of that would be less funny to me.

piratesbreak500
13 years ago
Reply to  genghiskhanull

I would also cry and cry and cry and cry. For different reasons. (piratesbreak500 has been my tag for about 7 years now.)

Nicolas C
13 years ago

I think it’s more likely they celebrate their 82nd win…it would be more realistic to expect a major league baseball team to celebrate a clinch of being good rather than a clinch of not being bad.

Colin
13 years ago
Reply to  Nicolas C

Agreed. 5 wins is important, but 81-81 will still be “not above .500” for 22 years. The 82nd win is when I pop the champagne. Winning the division is when I pop the nicer champagne.

Pirates Hurdles
13 years ago
Reply to  Colin

I doubt there will even be a mention of it from the team and there shouldn’t be; .500 was never the goal under this front office (unlike the previous one). I’m sure the fans will react with exuberance. I actually love the idea that they will not just break the streak by sneaking into 82 wins, but they will destroy it with 90+.

Pirates Hurdles
13 years ago

I doubt there will even be a mention of it from the team and there shouldn’t be; .500 was never the goal under this front office (unlike the previous one). I’m sure the fans will react with exuberance. I actually love the idea that they will not just break the streak by sneaking into 82 wins, but they will destroy it with 90+.

13 to go to 90.

Gyre
13 years ago
Reply to  Nicolas C

I think it’s more likely they are in the NL Championship game.

Bobby MuellerMember since 2016
13 years ago

Karma got back at Jeff today by having Felix Hernandez do his best Aaron Harang impression against the Rangers.

Oh, Beepy
13 years ago

Quick, someone take that last paragraph and write the saddest sports movie ever.

ImmanuelKant
13 years ago

Best Pirates post ever. Sports is all about amazing things happening, and a Pirates collapse would be one in 146,029 amazing!

Jer
13 years ago

“It’s not just that the Pirates have reinvigorated a baseball community; it’s that, if the Pirates can do it, anyone can do it, and there’s no such thing as a truly hopeless franchise.”

Seeing the Rays get to the World Series five years ago made me believe that. It made me think that if the hopeless Rays in an ugly ballpark with a small fan base and no real money can make it, so can the Pirates who have the nicest ballpark in the majors and lots of fans all over the country ready for a winner.

chief00
13 years ago
Reply to  Jer

It’s comical that a Mariners’ guy wrote that about another franchise… Playoffs-success-wise, the M’s are more of a punchline than the Pirates are intimated as being, not having made the playoffs until their 18th season (after the playoffs expanded), and still lacking the big prize.

The Pirates have won a WS since the M’s were born. Then there’s the obvious contrast to the success of the M’s expansion cousin. Even a modest helping of former Jays with positive WS experience (Olerud; Sprague; Borders) couldn’t even help that 116-win team over th hump in ’01. Tsk, tsk.

One treads all-too boldly on the slippery slope when one admits that “[t]here’s just that little tiny bit, though, that thinks it’d be hysterical if the Pirates somehow collapsed again.”

Perhaps one merely attempts to deflect negative attention from the lack of success experienced by one’s own franchise. After all, it must be difficult to field 3 all-timers (Griffey, Jr.; Martinez; Johnson) simultaneously and NOT win it all.

None of this should be taken too seriously, though. I enjoyed the article. 😉

tyke
13 years ago

“an historic”

*smacks Sullivan in the nose with a newspaper*

NO! the H is not silent. bad dog! you and Dave Cameron do this and it drives me fucking crazy. it is simply incorrect on a grammar level, and makes you sound like a douche on some other level. stop it, you two!

Andrew
13 years ago
Reply to  tyke

Shut up, idiot.

joser
13 years ago
Reply to  tyke

There’s only one douche here, and it’s neither Sullivan or Cameron.

Utah Dave
13 years ago
Reply to  joser

Now that was funny.

Zen Madman
13 years ago

I like the graphs. Yellow and black lines with red chicken scrawl. Classic.

The Return of Rambo Diaz
13 years ago
Reply to  Zen Madman

That felt like classic Baseball Nation Jeff Sullivan for a minute there, didn’t it?

Michael
13 years ago

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

Lloyd Christmas
13 years ago

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

matt w
13 years ago

“There’s just that little tiny bit, though, that thinks it’d be hysterical if the Pirates somehow collapsed again.”

This is the little tiny bit that KILLS KITTENS.

joser
13 years ago

The “We are Family” Pirates was the first team I followed in the postseason. I want to love them again… but I can’t, for two reasons: (1) their fans are the same people who are Steelers and Penguins fans, meaning they’ve been gorging in championships all this time, and (2) they got rid of the pillbox hats.