The White Sox Playoff Road Is Parallel to the Luis Robert Expressway
For the Chicago White Sox and their fans, this past winter was a very different experience than other recent offseasons. While the team more than dipped its toes into the waters of the Manny Machado sweepstakes after 2018 — seemingly signing every free agent who was a relatives, friend, or neighbor of the eventual Padres third baseman — that effort was a targeted strike at a free agent of rare quality. Outside of that chase, the Sox, still in their rebuilding phase, were not particularly aggressive when it came to adding talent in free agency. Kelvin Herrera was the only player signed who received a contract guaranteeing $10 million, and the White Sox are probably second-guessing that one.
This winter changed this tale. The 2019 White Sox were surprisingly competitive throughout the first half of the season and were within a game of .500 as late as early July. Any unrealistic playoff hopes were dashed by a 7-17 July, but that was still the only month of the season during which the team lost at least three more games than they won. This was a mediocre team, but a mediocre team that was at least playing watchable baseball for most of the season. In the end, the team added 10 wins to their 2018 total of 62.
Of note is that the White Sox didn’t net these 10 games from having a bunch of top prospects graduate to the majors. Of the team’s top 30 prospects from last year, only Eloy Jiménez made a positive impact on the team’s win total in 2019. And even Jiménez’s impact was relatively small, as on-base and defensive struggles kept his WAR to a merely adequate 1.9. The White Sox could legitimately point to their improvements and claim that the best was very much yet to come.
Tasting the end of the rebuild, the Sox did something that sometimes seems all too rare in baseball today: they aggressively invested in their team to make it better in the near future. In total, the team committed $201 million in guaranteed money to six players: Yasmani Grandal, Dallas Keuchel, Edwin Encarnación, Gio González, and José Abreu, who returned on a new three-year deal. While I was not a fan of Abreu deal, there’s no denying that it’s money spent in a sincere effort to win more games. The team had only spent $209 million in free agency in the previous six offseason combined, and now they were nearly matching that in a single winter.
Is it enough? The projections still place Chicago at a distinct disadvantage compared to the Minnesota Twins and Cleveland Indians. In the first run of the ZiPS projections, the White Sox averaged 82 wins with an 18% chance of postseason baseball, behind the Indians (87 wins, 50% chance) and the Twins (91 wins, 75% chance). The current Steamer/ZiPS combined projections are more optimistic at 85 wins and 30%, but that still leaves the Sox a bit of an underdog.
There are few, if any, free agent signings that could make a difference now — I’d argue that Yasiel Puig would have been a better gamble than Nomar Mazara — so the White Sox will need to rely on their roster’s upside to catch their division rivals. The good news is they have a lot of possible sources for that upside. Ignoring all the free agent additions, Nick Madrigal, one of the team’s top prospects, will be the team’s eventual everyday starter, and Michael Kopech is finally back from Tommy John surgery. Jiménez has a massively high offensive ceiling, and ZiPS has a lot of hope that Dylan Cease will significantly improve on his mehspresso stint in the majors in 2019. But no player’s upside looms as large as Luis Robert’s.
Signed out of Cuba for a $28 million signing bonus, there was a lot of uncertainty about what Robert would bring to the table. After debuting to a couple dozen games in the Dominican Summer League in 2017, he was limited by leg injuries, and his 2018 season was a short one thanks to another injury, this time to his thumb. 2019 was the year that Robert put it all together, hitting a combined .328/.376/.624 across 551 plate appearances at three minor league levels. That’s impressive for anyone, let alone a 21-year-old who started the season having never played above High-A. Eric Longenhagen just posted new video of Robert at the plate, so check it out if you’re not in Arizona at the moment:
The 2020 ZiPS projection for Robert is that of a solid contributor, but not a star. A .265/.309/.455, 20 HR/24 SB, 2.5 zWAR line in 121 projected games is something the White Sox would clearly take; the last time their center fielder combined for a .700 OPS was way back in 2015 when Adam Eaton was still in town. But it’s not as spicy as it could be. One of my new things this offseason with ZiPS is projecting typical percentile lines for a player. I’ve usually shown the probability of each threshold for individual statistics; I present these with a fixed number of plate appearances so that the difference can easily be seen in the counting stats. For Luis Robert, these projections tell a tale of a player who while not 50/50 to be an instant star in 2019, absolutely has the potential to do so:
| Percentile | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | OPS+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 90% | .284 | .333 | .552 | 496 | 69 | 141 | 26 | 10 | 29 | 77 | 27 | 123 | 37 | 134 | 4.5 |
| 80% | .277 | .322 | .513 | 499 | 67 | 138 | 25 | 9 | 25 | 71 | 24 | 134 | 29 | 122 | 3.7 |
| 70% | .272 | .316 | .494 | 500 | 65 | 136 | 23 | 8 | 24 | 69 | 23 | 141 | 28 | 115 | 3.3 |
| 60% | .270 | .314 | .468 | 500 | 64 | 135 | 22 | 7 | 21 | 65 | 23 | 148 | 25 | 109 | 2.8 |
| 50% | .265 | .309 | .455 | 501 | 63 | 133 | 21 | 7 | 20 | 63 | 22 | 152 | 24 | 104 | 2.5 |
| 40% | .265 | .307 | .446 | 502 | 62 | 133 | 20 | 7 | 19 | 62 | 21 | 158 | 23 | 101 | 2.4 |
| 30% | .261 | .303 | .430 | 502 | 60 | 131 | 19 | 6 | 18 | 59 | 21 | 163 | 21 | 96 | 2.0 |
| 20% | .258 | .299 | .412 | 503 | 59 | 130 | 19 | 5 | 16 | 57 | 20 | 170 | 18 | 91 | 1.6 |
| 10% | .251 | .290 | .390 | 505 | 57 | 127 | 17 | 4 | 15 | 55 | 18 | 179 | 15 | 83 | 1.1 |
In the upper percentiles, you can see the power-speed threat Robert could be if he breaks out. What’s more, given his 2017 and 2018 injuries, ZiPS is being conservative about his playing time. If he’s healthy and playing well — which would be the case in an upside scenario — Robert would certainly get more than 528 plate appearances and play in more than 121 games. So let’s re-roll his ZiPS character sheet and look at this table with a 145-game Robert:
| Percentile | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | OPS+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 90% | .285 | .334 | .555 | 593 | 84 | 169 | 32 | 13 | 34 | 91 | 33 | 147 | 43 | 135 | 5.4 |
| 80% | .277 | .323 | .520 | 596 | 81 | 165 | 31 | 12 | 30 | 85 | 30 | 161 | 35 | 124 | 4.4 |
| 70% | .273 | .319 | .497 | 597 | 79 | 163 | 28 | 11 | 28 | 82 | 29 | 169 | 33 | 117 | 3.9 |
| 60% | .271 | .316 | .475 | 598 | 77 | 162 | 27 | 10 | 25 | 78 | 28 | 177 | 30 | 111 | 3.5 |
| 50% | .265 | .309 | .459 | 599 | 76 | 159 | 26 | 9 | 24 | 75 | 27 | 182 | 29 | 105 | 3.0 |
| 40% | .264 | .308 | .446 | 599 | 75 | 158 | 25 | 9 | 22 | 73 | 27 | 189 | 27 | 101 | 2.7 |
| 30% | .262 | .305 | .433 | 600 | 73 | 157 | 24 | 8 | 21 | 71 | 26 | 195 | 24 | 98 | 2.4 |
| 20% | .258 | .300 | .414 | 601 | 72 | 155 | 23 | 7 | 19 | 68 | 25 | 203 | 22 | 92 | 2.0 |
| 10% | .252 | .292 | .391 | 603 | 70 | 152 | 21 | 6 | 17 | 66 | 23 | 214 | 17 | 84 | 1.3 |
This Robert has a 29% shot at a four-win season, typically the threshold we talk about as All-Star level. 145 games isn’t an unreasonably optimistic playing time projection for a starter, especially considering that the White Sox signed Robert to a six-year, $50 million extension that leaves the team with no incentive to play service time games. So just for fun, let’s apply the positive percentile levels in the last table (60%-90%) to today’s ZiPS projected standings and see how these additional wins could reinforce the team’s playoff hopes. Note that the White Sox ticked up to 83 wins and a 23% chance of the playoffs since the initial projections. Assuming Robert plays in 145 games instead of 121 adds another half-win, rounding the Sox to an 84-win team and a 25% playoff shot:
| Percentile | Win Division | Make Playoffs | Win World Series |
|---|---|---|---|
| 90th | 21.6% | 38.2% | 3.1% |
| 80th | 17.8% | 32.5% | 2.5% |
| 70th | 16.0% | 29.8% | 2.0% |
| 60th | 14.1% | 27.4% | 1.9% |
| 50th (145 G) | 12.9% | 25.0% | 1.8% |
| 50th (122 G) | 10.0% | 22.6% | 1.5% |
As you can see from this chart, additional wins for the White Sox, given their projected position in the playoff race, are of massive value to the team’s October hopes. And this chart may be underrating Robert’s upside for one reason: defense.
One of the main reasons that these lines aren’t part of the normal ZiPS charts is that I’m still trying to figure out a good solution for demonstrating defensive volatility. It’s easy to present a player’s 90th percentile offensive projection against his 50th because there’s a lot of loose correlation between the different stats. But other than playing time, there’s little relationship between offensive and defensive improvements, so it seems sort of odd to just chuck in the range of defensive numbers.
ZiPS projects Robert to be a +4 defensive player in center field, a solidly average contribution at a position where there are lots of excellent defensive players. But there’s perhaps more reason to think that could be wrong in this instance than with the typical player. ZiPS was ambivalent about Robert’s defense over his first two minor league seasons, both of which were hampered by injuries. In 2019, using the probabilistic estimates I used for minor leaguers based on Gameday hit location data, zDEF really liked Robert’s defense. Of all minor leaguers at all positions, ZiPS had Robert as the second-best defensive player, at +20.9 total defensive runs in the outfield (+20.5 range, +0.5 error, -0.2 arm), behind only Michael Siani of the Reds. That comes down to +4 because it’s just a single year of less-than-ideal defensive data. But what if Robert’s a +14 defensive player rather than a +4 one?
| Percentile | Win Division | Make Playoffs | Win World Series |
|---|---|---|---|
| 90th | 25.8% | 44.1% | 3.8% |
| 80th | 21.6% | 38.2% | 3.1% |
| 70th | 19.6% | 35.2% | 2.8% |
| 60th | 18.2% | 33.1% | 2.6% |
| 50th (145 G) | 16.3% | 30.3% | 2.3% |
| 50th (122 G) | 14.8% | 27.9% | 2.1% |
Simply hitting lucky sevens with Luis Robert and none of the other young talent is enough to put a real scare into the rest of the division. None of this even takes into consideration the possibility that the White Sox make a big addition at the trade deadline should one of the more optimistic scenarios play out. Protect your wins, Cleveland and Minnesota; LouBob is coming for them.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
very excited for La Pantera’s debut
Should be a fun year. But I think the variance is much higher around the rotation. If some combo of Kopech, Cease, Dunning, Rodon, Lopez, Burdi, Stiever break right, they could be a very good team.
The chance of all of them working out is slim to none, but if two do the team is probably pretty good. If 3 or 4 do over the next couple of years they might be perennial world series contenders.
I was thinking exactly the same. Much of the rotation is some combination of young, unproven, and recently injured. I would love to see the percentile outcome tables for the rotation as a whole since Cease, Kopech, Dunning, and even probably Lopez all have a wide range of possible outcomes. If all three of those guys put it together (unlikely), they could be real good. If none of them does, they will struggle.
Finally really excited for Sox baseball. Lots of potential variability not only with Robert, but also with other young developing guys like Eloy, Kopech, Cease, maybe Madrigal and even Rodon when he returns. Hoping for a couple of breakouts from that group and looking forward to seeing the full Robert tool chest – pretty impressive displays of speed and power so far.
I know the concern at signing and the last couple years in general was that he wouldn’t really be a center fielder, or would quickly outgrow it, because his speed at his size is not normal. If he has the instincts to pair with that speed (which a +20 even one year in the minors would certainly suggest is possible) then good lord. Great defense would put his 20-30% results as basically Byron Buxton!
His speed at his size is normal though when comparing Robert to NFL players. It’s just that athletes like Robert have a tendency to play other sports.
Awesome article, Dan! I think a really interesting article would be an All-90th percentile team. What a roster of the best 90th percentile Catcher, 1B, 2B, SS etc would look like.
Interesting read, thanks!
Percentile Projections are cool! Could you run the projections for every single Rockies player at their 90th percentile projection? Does it get them to 94 wins?
I get excited about young talent as much as the next guy, and I would love Luis Robert to be the next big thing. That said, his plate discipline sucks right now and his contact rate is borderline. He’s no Juan Soto. He’s not even Eloy Jimenez at this point. Name me any guy who had consistent success with a K/BB ratio of 6+ and a 72% contact rate. I’ll wait….
So I’ll pass for now. Years of observation tell me that plate discipline cannot be taught – you either have it or you don’t. Maybe he’s the exception to the rule, but right now he looks a lot like a young Jorge Soler. Honestly, he could use a full year in AAA. It will help him in the long run. Are you listening, White Sox?
They’re not.
Robert in his minor league career has 62 walks and 204 strikeouts. In the Cuban league 81 walks 112 K. What’s the 6/1 k/bb nonsense coming from?
Pretty sure he’s referring to his ZiPS projections, which if anything suggest 6/1 might be optimistic.
Soler seems like a poor comp, and while you meant it to be an insult, a young soler with wheels and plus defense would actually be a spectacular piece for the Sox. I think there is some reason for some caution here but the best outcomes are truly special. The article nailed it though, anyone envisioning the Sox in the playoffs basically has to assume Robert and or a few of the young staff have to breakout.
Did not mean it as an insult. Soler was brought up too young and struggled. In hindsight an extra year at AAA would likely have helped him. I believe the same to be true for Robert, as well as anyone for whom plate discipline is a weak point.
Clueless Joe Jackson: “Years of observation tell me that plate discipline cannot be taught – you either have it or you don’t.”
Also Clueless Joe Jackson: “Honestly, he could use a full year in AAA. It will help him in the long run. “
And you see a contradiction in those statements I assume? I certainly don’t. Look, I want Luis Robert to be successful as much as any White Sox fan. Having new and young talent is good for the game. My point is he profiles right now (in MLB) as a .240/.280/.475 guy with 35 BB + 180 K, assuming he plays full-time. He’s only 22 years old and he has <225 PA at AAA. I'd like to see him get at least another half season in AAA. I think he needs it. But we can agree to disagree on his 2020 projection. Looks like the White Sox are going to keep him in MLB. Let the chips fall where they may, and we'll see at the end of the season what he turned out to be.
Not every great hitter in MLB had a .400+ OBP in the minors….
Robert is an aggressive hitter who won’t put up the lofty walk numbers but you’ll see elite exit velocity with top of the scale speed.
I’m pretty confident that Luis Robert isn’t going to learn anything in AAA at this point. He’s physically such a monster that when you combine it with the juiced balls, pitchers who aren’t confident in their command are going to be giving him bad looks. I think he’s just going to have to learn in MLB, and he’ll probably post some low-OBP years at the beginning because he’s going to strike out a lot and not walk very much, but I don’t see how he’s going to learn it in AAA if teams are pitching around him. Maybe he improves, maybe he doesn’t? It’s almost certainly time to find out.
Nice article! It is fun to imagine what a guy is capable of then actually see it happen over time.
“That’s impressive for anyone, let alone a 21-year-old who started the season having never played above High-A….”
Should Cuban players be held to the same level of expectations in the minors? I was under the impression that playing in Cuba was equivalent to AAA baseball, which Robert has been playing since he was 15.
I am pretty sure the Cuban league is nowhere near AAA. Maybe at some point before the talent drain but I have a hard time believing they are even in the same neighborhood now. It is probably closer to A ball.
I get Cuba as a High-A league and with the offense, a lot like the California League. It’s just the California League with some MLB-caliber players at the top, so you see some crazy stats at the best.
Where does Korea fit in? I thought Japan is widely considered to be somewhere in between AAA and MLB, but I don’t know where Korea falls.