Tinker Taylor Houser Crow

For the past decade, the joke around Mets pitchers has been that they spend more time injured than active. There’s no shortage of examples; Jacob deGrom and Noah Syndergaard spring to my mind first, but Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander dealt with injuries in their time in Queens, too. Edwin Díaz just missed the 2023 season. Zack Wheeler never quite lived up to his potential when he was there, and injuries were a key reason why. Matt Harvey, Seth Lugo, Steven Matz — heck, here’s a story from 2017 about the Mets’ injury woes, which were already a trope before their recent woes.
In that sense, Coleman Crow is the platonic ideal of a Mets pitcher. He joined the organization in June, part of the package the Angels sent to New York in exchange for Eduardo Escobar. At the time, he hadn’t pitched since late April thanks to an elbow injury. His first notable decision as a Met was to get Tommy John surgery for that elbow; he’s now tracking for a return at the very end of next year, or potentially in 2025. He’s been a Met for roughly six months and thrown exactly zero pitches for them in that time.
Or maybe I should have said: he was a Met for roughly six months. On Wednesday, the Mets traded him to the Brewers in exchange for Adrian Houser and Tyrone Taylor, ending his tenure with the team. You think Harvey was often injured? Crow dialed it up to an entirely different level, albeit in the minors. It’s the kind of performance we might not see again for a while.
Now that I’ve used Crow for my amusing, semi-Mets-bashing intro, I’m going to shelve him for a while to talk about the rest of the trade, but don’t worry, Crowheads; we’ll cover your guy at the end. See, Crow was hardly a hot commodity in the trade market. We had him down as a 40 FV prospect before his injury, and the risk has only increased since then. He was unprotected in this year’s Rule 5 draft. Teams weren’t exactly knocking down the Mets’ doors trying to trade for him.
You can infer, then, that the package of Houser and Taylor probably weren’t essential to Milwaukee’s 2024 plans. Houser is a good enough pitcher that I’m kind of surprised he ended up as surplus; across five years of swingman duty (97 starts, 23 relief appearances), he’s compiled an ERA around 4.00, with peripherals that match. That works out to 1.8 WAR per 150 innings pitched — and coincidentally, he compiled 1.8 WAR in 2023, across only 111 innings.
Houser has one main skill: keeping the ball on the ground. His best and most-used pitch is a sinker that lives in the 91–93-mph range and seems impossibly heavy, dropping two inches more than the average sinker thrown in its rough velocity range. He complements that with a ton of secondaries, none of which I’m in love with; he has a slider, a curveball, a changeup, and a four-seamer, but both of our pitching models agree that all four are below-average offerings.
Houser’s sinker induced fewer grounders in 2023 than it had in his career before this year. You might think that would doom him, and in fact, his home run rate shot up thanks to all the additional fly balls he gave up. But 2023 was also his most effective season in the majors, because his former biggest weakness — command — became a strength. For the first time in his career, he walked fewer than 8% of opposing batters, and all the secondary metrics agree that this looks like a real improvement. He lived in the strike zone more often, got ahead in the count at a good clip, and garnered both more swinging strikes and more called strikes than his 2022 campaign.
If you’re talking yourself into the good version of Houser, that’s a great narrative. His sinker looks as good as ever in terms of movement, though its velocity dipped a bit as the year went on. His depressed groundball rate might disappear in 2024 while his newfound command remains. That would make him something like an off-brand Logan Webb or Framber Valdez; those guys have excellent second pitches to catapult them to another level, but a worse version of an excellent pitcher is still something worth getting excited over.
Even if he doesn’t manage that more-grounders-better-command trick, Houser looks like a perfectly competent fifth starter to me. His xFIP has hovered in the mid-to-low 4s, and his career mark is an even 4.25. He doesn’t seem particularly prone to hard contact; even with an unremarkable groundball/fly ball ratio in 2023, he wasn’t surrendering an abnormal amount of barrels. There are always going to be nits to pick when you’re looking at starters who fit at the back end of a rotation (durability, velo, strikeouts, command, sustainability, the list goes on), but all things considered, most teams could use a guy like Houser somewhere on their 40-man roster.
Honestly, even the Brewers could use a guy like Houser. He made 21 starts for them last year, more or less filling Brandon Woodruff’s spot in the rotation. Woodruff is no longer on the team, so there’s an obvious spot for Houser, but the Brewers filled that spot earlier this winter by signing Joe Ross. Ross isn’t exactly a rotation lock — the last time he threw more than three innings was in 2021, thanks to injury and rehab — but the team saw enough upside to give him a shot at starting anyway.
That move meant that one of Houser or Colin Rea wouldn’t have a rotation spot, and given how Milwaukee tries to stretch its budget as far as possible, the loser of that particular competition was likely headed out of town. Houser is due to make roughly $5.5 million in arbitration this offseason; Rea signed a one-year deal for $4.5 million with a club option tacked onto the back end. That probably made the decision easier: ship the more expensive guy off to the team with money to burn in exchange for a marginal prospect.
Taylor is in this trade, too, and his inclusion is even easier to understand. The Brewers are in the strange situation of having too many outfielders for their own good. Christian Yelich had a resurgent, on-base driven season and isn’t going anywhere. Sal Frelick, Garrett Mitchell, and Joey Wiemer all looked good enough in 2023 that the team is looking for space to play them in 2024. That doesn’t even count Jackson Chourio, whose record contract foreshadows an early and permanent call-up. Even with four spots (counting DH), Taylor didn’t really fit into the picture anymore.
Like Houser, Taylor can be a perfectly nice complementary option on a good team as a fourth outfielder who can handle center in a pinch and hits enough that you won’t be embarrassed to run him out there. His 101 career wRC+ probably overstates his talent, but not by a ton; Steamer projects him for a 95 wRC+ next year. There are certainly downside risks: his aggressive approach might have gone too far in 2023, when he chased nearly 40% of pitches outside the strike zone and got on base at a career-low .267 clip, which torpedoed his overall batting line. But even in a down year, Taylor’s defensive chops — he’s fast and has a huge arm — made him valuable. Just not, you know, valuable to a team with a bushelful of young outfielders, particularly considering that he will likely make nearly $2 million in arbitration; he had to go.
The Mets are surely excited to be on the receiving end of Milwaukee’s unburdening. They needed pitching and outfielders badly; we’ve penciled in Houser as their fourth starter and Taylor as their starting left fielder. I’m not completely sure whether they’re going to spend 2024 shooting for the playoffs or laying more of a groundwork for the future, but in either case, both Milwaukee castoffs will be helpful in filling in the gaps not occupied by the team’s mix of stars and interesting youngsters.
The real benefit to Milwaukee here isn’t Crow; it’s salary relief. The Brewers have a lot more need for $7 million in cost reduction than the Mets do, having built their whole organization around trying to pay less than that for average players, and the Mets don’t have much of a farm system to draw from when they’re looking for low-end regulars. That makes me love this trade for New York, which has struggled to get guys like Houser and Taylor without dipping into free agency or trading away valuable minor leaguers. Merely absorbing their contracts and sending over a rehabbing pitcher seems like a much better way to go about things.
My only question, then, is whether this is the best return the Brewers could have gotten for their players. In the short term, I think the answer is obviously yes; otherwise, someone else would have traded for them. My guess is that they could have pried slightly more from someone for Houser if they dangled him all winter; pitching, after all, is in high demand everywhere, and there are only so many free agents still out there. But that move comes with risk: hold Houser in reserve waiting for someone to bowl you over with an offer, and you might accidentally still have him on the roster on opening day.
That doesn’t sound like a disaster, but let me pitch it this way: the Brewers can probably use their $7 million in savings to improve their team with a veteran infielder or reliever, and they couldn’t really do that if they both kept Houser and stuck to a budget. In my eyes, this trade is all about risk mitigation: they wanted to end the offseason with Houser and Taylor off the books, and so they leapt at the first chance to clear both of their salaries and get at least a token return.
Perhaps that return will end up being more than a token. Crow looked awesome in a laughably small sample in 2023, striking out more than a third of opposing batters and walking only 7%. He performed well in 2022, to boot; if not for his injury, he might already be knocking on the door of the majors as an up-and-down, command-over-stuff swingman type. The Brewers seem to get the most out of those types of pitchers quite often. Eric Lauer is the most recent example I can think of, but they’ve demonstrated a knack for figuring out what small adjustments can take tweeners over the line from minor league out-getter to big league contributor.
Yep, you guessed it: I’m awarding this trade the inevitable win-win grade that you surely expected when you heard the Mets and Brewers were making a swap. One team needs money, the other talent; it’s hardly rocket science. But I think that the Brewers are valuing risk aversion quite highly in this deal, and that the Mets were smart to jump on the opportunity to add two reliable rotation players at a negligible (to them) cost. I’ll award them a capital WIN, the Brewers a lower-case win, and me a richly deserved walk around the neighborhood with hot chocolate.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
Houser’s a solid back end starter and Taylor’s a solid fourth OFer with good pop and the Mets gave up their injured 20th or worse prospect this is a solid trade for the Mets.
“Solid”
Indeed very solid I realized I overused the word solid too late to edit.
Solid, Dave.
In a world where Lance Lynn or Kyle Gibson types gets 13M, I thought Houser for 5,5M have more value. At least Crow + lotto ticket or Crow level prospect but healthy. If they use the savings on proven hitter, its fine result. Im pretty sure Brewers not going to pay 7M for reliever.
A lot more. If Crow really is that marginal of a prospect, the Mets got an enormous steal. They walked away with a fourth outfielder and a #4 starter, both of whom are being paid probably half of what they would get on the open market, for a guy who will probably never reach the majors.
Hes not that marginal, reports says he combine very flat angle FB with elite spin curve and is kind of a “pitch metrics darling”. Sounds like a guy who will have success as a MLB RP. But yeah, even for a one year of solid MLB starter, it seems like a light return.
Keep in mind that the return also includes over $7M of salary relief.
Considering the elbow injury since Eric’s previous grade, seems fair to view Crow as a current 35+. Personally I would have thought Howser on his own could have garnered a 40 from one of so many pitching-needy teams. The versatile cheap Taylor perhaps nets a low level 35+.
I guess I don’t see much justification for Arnold acting this prematurely. With the inevitable pitching injuries that hit every spring, it’s unfathomable that Milwaukee wouldn’t find a taker for Howser (unless, I suppose, Howser gets hurt right out the gate). Brewers could have committed the same $7M elsewhere with the knowledge that they would either score a better return for these players in a couple months or settle for giving them away for not much less than Crow.
The only way this early action makes sense to me is if 1) Howser has scary medicals, or 2) Arnold screwed up by tendering Taylor and has since come to learn no other team thinks he’s worth $2M. But neither of these things feels especially likely.
Small potatoes in the long run, sure, but the Brewers are typically better at wringing every ounce of value out of these “win-win” trades.
Modern front offices, at least good run front offices like the Brewers, dont “screw up” things. I guess they are probably just much higher on Crow than others and see this as a solid return.
Every front office not matter how good to great makes mistakes the Dodgers made some regrettable trades with ifa guys with Alvarez being the obvious example.
I was not talking about trades. Of course every FO lose a trade sometimes. I meant solid run teams dont screw up things like tendering contracts and roster management.
Fair point jandys. That is probably the “true” answer, and I grant that Eric’s opinion on Crow should not be taken as gospel. But damn, with Crow “out-of-operation” in the here and now, I struggle to see what info could support that level of scouting confidence to which you allude.
One intangible theory re Taylor: Following the well-publicized Hader trade-induced player mutiny and then the Burnes arb fallout, the Brewers front office has made it a point, or at least curried this image in local media, to come across as a player-friendly franchise. Not close to the degree of the Royals, but they have encouraged newcomers like Canha and Frelick to convey the merits of the org. Taylor clearly has no place on this roster. Could he have requested they tender and trade him (even if for peanuts) to lock in his $2M payday as opposed to hitting the open market and ending up with less?
It’s a stretch, I know. But I still think Howser easily gets Crow on his own.
Have to assume that the Brewers wanted to secure the payroll space early enough to try to sign free agents while there are still free agents to sign. Maybe it shouldn’t matter because they should be free to spend more, but it seems clear that reducing payroll post haste, rather than maximizing the return on these players, was Milwaukee’s strategic priority.
Well, they don’t want to risk spending that $7M in advance and then wind up not being able to trade them later. It’s not guaranteed that they’d be able to find a taker later in the offseason if trying to maximize their value backfires on them.
Eh, my point is that as far as Howser goes it *is* guaranteed. Worse comes to worse the return is only a PTBNL, but I have no doubt several teams, even in March, would happily pay Howser $5M. Because of that, patience in moving him should in no way prevent FA signings now. That said, those guys taking up 40-man roster spots is a real negative. A bigger obstacle than the money, IMO.
Why do I keep spelling Houser with a ‘w’? More coffee please
I think it’s a great deal for the Mets. They gave up an injured FV 40 and received two quality depth pieces, one of whom is a starting pitcher, and pitchers are getting paid this offseason. Like, I think STL would look a lot better if they had traded one of their many, many FV 40 starting prospects for a pitcher like Houser and using their extra millions on a bullpen arm instead of likely wasting $10 million on Lance Lynn.
The Brewers wouldn’t have traded Houser inside the division with both teams attempting to compete next season.
Love this deal for the Mets. Buying the exact kind of depth guys they’ve been lacking, for relatively small sums, seems like a much better way to lay a foundation than the big-splash spending that they did last year — even without the benefit of injury hindsight on the Scherzer and Verlander deals, they ended up with a spackled-together 5th-starter spot and were playing guys like Vogelbach and DJ Stewart way too much. This is nobody’s idea of a flashy acquisition, but if Houser is better than Tylor Megill and Taylor is better than DJ Stewart, both of which seem very likely to me, it’s a genuine upgrade.
Tbf to Stewart he put up a wRC+ in the 130’s he was good granted it wasn’t a huge sample
Yes, the main problem is that they let him play the field at all (of course because they were inexplicably carrying two DH-only guys at the same time). Stewart is a viable major-leaguer for a team smart enough to confine him to a pure DH/bench-bat role. But Taylor has a lot more value than that given that the 2024 Mets’ outfield plan contains so many question marks.
Unless Crow is a much, much better prospect than Eric thinks, this deal is really bad for the Brewers. If they trade Corbin Burnes, they could easily use Houser in that spot. If they don’t, they will desperately need rotation depth to cover themselves. And then they threw in a fourth outfielder with a lot of team control just because. There’s no way this deal had to happen now, they could have even waited until spring training and guys got injured.
Houser is a legitimate fourth starter—he had 1.8 fWAR with 112 innings last year. And he’s going to be paid half as much as Flaherty. It is mind-boggling that the Brewers couldn’t trade him for more than an FV40 pitching prospect. They must really love Crow. A lot.
Taylor was extra depth at a $2M salary that they had no use for.
At this point, it appears they’re keeping Burnes. While they would be a better team by also keeping Houser, it’s more about saving the money he will be making. While it will leave them a little short on starting pitching depth, it’s more important for them to be able to reallocate that money to areas of bigger need like the infield or bullpen while only sacrificing from the back end of their rotation.
So basically, the Mets grabbed a couple of decent complimentary pieces on relatively cheap arbitration salaries, while the Brewers dumped salary from areas of strength to be able to upgrade elsewhere on the roster (without trading Burnes or Adames, at least not yet) while also picking up a lottery ticket prospect.
Fair deal.
This trade works for both teams. Crow was Mets 29th rated prospect and becomes the Brewers 25th according to MLB PIpeline. I read an article that stipulated high spin rates that could have been big draw for Brewers. I think Crow turns out to be a solid big league pitcher for the Brewers in time.
The Mets did well getting a credible back end starter who can also pitch out of pen and be swing.
For me, Taylor is the bigger get in filling a void for the Mets who have control of him for 3 more years. He’s former 2nd round pick with some bona fide tools – speed and power. Good defense. The speed and D are especially valuable to the Mets. Power deepens the lineup.
If Mets can get him to be more selective, increase his BB’s, decrease K’s and swing at strikes he can drive to all fields, he could put himself into position to get a lot of playing time and amass solid OBP and B.A. to help both self and team. And with his 28.8 sprint speed average, he’s the fastest current Met. Get on base, and then steal when appropriate. He could become a 20-20 player, playing above his 2024 salary. He might turn out to be a steal, not a just steal 20.
Taylor’s a good player who’s been hurt one way or another his entire career. I think he’s been over -aggressive when he played which sometimes happens with part time players. I think if the Mets give him regular AB’s they’ll be surprised at the production. He had a nearly .900 OPS from Aug-Oct of last year when he finally got regular playing time and was healthy. He was their best hitter down the stretch-which isn’t saying a lot on that team-but productive nonetheless.
Michael,
He might get regular AB’s with McNeil most likely the regular second baseman rather than splitting time between left and second with Mauricio out for much or all of 2024. If Mets don’t acquire a better outfielder or super utility type who plays a bunch of corner outfield, Tyrone Taylor is likely to get plenty playing time because of his speed and defense, in addition to power.
On the other hand, we don’t know the Stearns led front office, on-field plans and how Mendoza as manager will operate. Will they keep DJ. Stewart, and how much outfield time will he get? And how will they use Wendle which could impact McNeil and left field.
“If Mets can get him to be more selective, increase his BB’s, decrease K’s and swing at strikes he can drive to all fields, he could put himself into position to get a lot of playing time and amass solid OBP and B.A. to help both self and team. And with his 28.8 sprint speed average, he’s the fastest current Met. Get on base, and then steal when appropriate. He could become a 20-20 player, playing above his 2024 salary. He might turn out to be a steal, not a just steal 20.”
So if he was a completely different player, he’d be a completely different and much better player? He has a career .294 OBP, and it’s not like he walked a lot in the minors either. He’ll be 30 this next season. He pretty much is who he is at this point. He’s fine as a 4th OF type for a team who lacked one, but he’s not some star in the making. Going to a much less HR friendly ballpark won’t help him either.
ngl Ben this headline doesn’t work at all
I wasn’t going to make another negative headline comment, but I checked back to see if anyone else complained about this post.
I understand Ben trying to be cute, but this isn’t a headline. It doesn’t describe anything. It’s almost a nice reference to a book/movie, but it’s incomplete.
(There’s no lede either, but that’s another story.)
Basically, this post screams “we’re a fan blog, not a professional baseball news site.” If FanGraphs wants to pay for amateur work, cool. If not, someone needs to set a few guidelines or hire an editor.
Ngl this headline is great
Landon Marceaux, Adrian Houser, and Tyrone Tayler for 2/3 of a season of Eduardo Escobar; aka, a low-end prospect, a swingman, and a backup outfielder for less than a full season of a bench bat. Marginal gains add up, more please Metsies
“That makes me love this trade for New York…”
—The Mets traded a pitcher with MOR skills (even if his chance is a rather slender reed for the moment) for fungible 30 and 31 yos of a type that are available in FA every year for nothing but money. Strange approach for a team with only a few pitching prospects with any upside past #5 or a weak 4, particularly in an era where guys like Jameson Taillon and Taijuan Walker are getting 4/68 and 4/72.
It’s for good reasons that FGDC has Houser pitching to a 4.71 FIP in 2024. Between the majors and AA the Mets quite literally have nine guys like this. If you’re doing this kind of thing, why not just sign Kyle Gibson when he was available?