Trade Deadline Chat-A-Palooza

1:50
Dave Cameron: With the deadline coming up in a few hours, but a lull in significant moves, let’s spend a bit of time talking about what might go down.

1:51
Dave Cameron: I’ll be around for a bit, but will have to bail to go write if anything major happens.

1:51
Dave Cameron: So let’s talk trade stuff until then.

1:53
Comment From Brandon
What will the Haren return look like?

1:54
Dave Cameron: I bet the Cubs are giving nothing of consequence but agreed to cover some of the money that was already covered by the Dodgers. So Marlins might just be double dipping to get even more cash.

1:54
Dave Cameron: Just speculation, but would be a Marlins thing to do.

1:54
Comment From Rog
Think the Indians actually pull the trigger on any of these moves? The haul for their SPs would have to be pretty big, right?

1:54
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I doubt any of them go. They’re listening because why not, but too many alternatives on the market to make a crazy demand right now.

1:55
Comment From Drunken Clams
Will the Cubs pull off a deal with the Padres? Will Castro finish the season with the Cubs? Thanks.

1:55
Dave Cameron: Haren trade makes that unlikely, I think. Pads starters were always thing that would fit in CHC the best. Unless Cubs got Haren for SD to replace the innings they’re giving up in a Ross/Cashner situation, but that seems unlikely.

1:55
Comment From Matt
Kimbrel and Chapman both dealt today?

1:55
Dave Cameron: I bet neither are.

1:56
Comment From TwistedLogic
Cespedes contract nearly guarantees he’s going to be moved. Your best guess on his destination?

1:56
Dave Cameron: White Sox.

1:56
Dave Cameron: Kevin Jepsen to the Twins is a thing that is happening, per Rosenthal.

1:57
Comment From TO fan
What are the odds the Jays resign Price if they make the playoffs (and in turn, what is the “value” of the exclusive negotiating period)?

1:57
Dave Cameron: Slim to none. In this case, I’d say there’s not much value to it. Price is taking biggest offer.

1:57
Dave Cameron: With a guy like Mike Leake in SF, there probably is some value.

1:58
Comment From acesfull
How many deals will we see from the Pads before the deadline?

1:58
Dave Cameron: I bet they go small, just move Upton, maybe Venable, maybe Shawn Kelley or Benoit.

1:59
Comment From Dave
Any sense for Cubs’ moves beyond Haren?

1:59
Dave Cameron: I still think there’s logic to a Castro/Gyorko contract swap where SD includes something of value to incentivize the Cubs to make that swap.

1:59
Dave Cameron: But unless Haren is going to SD in that deal, it doesn’t work as well as it did pre-Haren.

2:00
Comment From CRW
Thoughts on Kaminsky for Moss? seems to be a bit of an overpay right?

2:00
Dave Cameron: Yeah, not sure how Moss gets more after a bad half-year than he got last winter.

2:00
Comment From Brian
Isn’t it odd for the Mariners to be hanging on to anything not tailed down at this point?

2:01
Dave Cameron: They don’t have that many valuable walk-year guys, honestly. Iwkauma, but not a great market to sell SPs in right now.

2:01
Comment From Will Yoder
Is there any actual weight to the Cespedes to Washington rumors? If so, how would he fit?

2:01
Dave Cameron: Zero.

2:02
Dave Cameron: Let’s see if this works.

2:02
Dave Cameron: Guess not.

2:03
Dave Cameron: Anyway, Morosi reports that crazy three team rumor still kicking around. Would bet that it involves Sandoval going to SD.

2:03
Comment From s
Does it make more sense to wait for the off season to trade Cargo and Jose Reyes?

2:03
Dave Cameron: Doesn’t sound like big markets for either.

2:04
Comment From Art Vandelay
Beane is always quiet until a deal actually happens, so I’m not surprised we haven’t heard much, but do you think Reddick/Vogt or both get moved?

2:04
Dave Cameron: Neither. He’s said he’s not trading anyone they have for next year.

2:05
Comment From Nick
Odds that the Mets will trade Wheeler for Cespedes by 4pm? 80-20?

2:05
Dave Cameron: I bet it’s Wheeler for Bruce.

2:06
Comment From Kyle
Tyson Ross going anywhere?

2:06
Dave Cameron: Sounds like a lot of interest, but I don’t know why they’d do it. It’s selling low.

2:07
Comment From Theo3Times
any chance this BOS/SD/CHC rumor materializes with the Haren acquisiton?

2:07
Dave Cameron: Doubt they’re related.

2:07
Comment From Phil
Preller’s offer to anyone, no cash considerations: Both Uptons, Kimbrel, Kemp, Shields and Gyorko for a PTBNL. Would anyone take it? Justin Upton is FA, and the other five earn $74M in 2016.

2:07
Dave Cameron: No one takes that group as a whole, no. Way too much dead money and hardly any actual assets.

2:07
Comment From Hoff
Red Sox sports talk personalities were trying to compare the Hamels to Rangers deal to what they could have offered. They made it sound like Harrison was an asset in the deal, but I interpreted his inclusion as a salary dump by the Rangers. Am I wrong?

2:08
Dave Cameron: No, you have it right. Harrison would get a minor league deal this winter. He’s worth zero.

2:08
Dave Cameron: So his inclusion was a $34 million offset.

2:09
Comment From Dan
Do you think Napoli gets traded? if so, what do you think the return is?

2:09
Dave Cameron: He’s an August trade guy.

2:10
Dave Cameron: Blue Jays getting Ben Revere.

2:10
Dave Cameron: Because Ezequiel Carrera wasn’t enough guys exactly like that?

2:10
Dave Cameron: I don’t know.

2:11
Comment From Guest
Have the Mariners tried shopping Austin Jackson to the Mets?

2:11
Dave Cameron: He’s probably an August trade too.

2:11
Comment From Brian L
Would love to hear your take on the braves side of the Wood/Latos/Olivera trade?

2:11
Dave Cameron: I don’t know enough about Olivera to have a real strong take, but I’d lean towards not liking it that much. Maybe he’ll be a +3 to +4 WAR guy next year and prove worth it, but I’d probably rather have sold Wood and Peraza for something else.

2:12
Comment From jake
remember when we thought the deadline would be boring?

2:12
Dave Cameron: It is amazing how we went from no sellers to too many sellers in a few weeks.

2:13
Comment From TEddy
any idea on what big 3 way deal looks like (speculation is also accepted) between cubs padres and sox?

2:14
Dave Cameron: I’d guess Sandoval to San Diego along with a bunch of money, Kimbrel to Chicago, and the Cubs send something to Boston.

2:14
Dave Cameron: Obviously more than that

2:14
Dave Cameron: But something like that as a base kind of makes sense.

2:14
Dave Cameron: Could be Ross/Cashner instead of Kimbrel.

2:15
Comment From Brian
If you are the Nationals right now, are you done? Obviously not selling going into a playoff run, but are they at the point where for their roster the marginal return on additional ML depth just isn’t worth it?

2:15
Dave Cameron: They don’t really need much besides health.

2:15
Comment From Mayquan
If the Dodgers are to make one last move, who is it for?

2:15
Dave Cameron: An elite RP. McGee is still my guess.

2:15
Comment From Raindog
If the Mets are aiming at Bruce and CHW aiming at Cespedes, who’s left to take Upton? Preller’s gonna end up holding him, isn’t he?

2:15
Dave Cameron: Cubs still seem like a potential fit. Coghlan/Soler can share a job.

2:16
Comment From Me
when is peraza flipped? does he have any altuve in him or is he closer to a 2b iglesias

2:16
Dave Cameron: I bet they move him this winter.

2:16
Dave Cameron: And probably more of a Dee Gordon type.

2:17
Comment From Scott
Yanks Kimbrel, yay or nay?

2:17
Dave Cameron: Nay

2:17
Comment From Fonz
Trades involving large sums of cash require MLB’s approval, but my understanding is that trades involving large dead weight contracts do not. What do you think Manfred and his colleagues think of the “Theo Ratliff’s expiring contract”-alization of MLB, and do you foresee any steps to curtail it?

2:17
Dave Cameron: I don’t know why MLB would really care one way or another.

2:17
Dave Cameron: I bet they care more about the draft pick auctions we’re seeing, like the Ryan Webb deal.

2:18
Comment From Brian
So the Mariners traded right handed bullpen help for… less good left handed bullpen help and two lottery tickets?

2:18
Dave Cameron: Like every other deal, the non-contender traded a guy with limited team control for guys with much longer team control. That’s how these deals work. You get less quality now for more quantity later.

2:19
Comment From Bojack Horseman
A hypothetical Wheeler-for-Bruce deal is a massive overpay for the Mets, right?

2:19
Dave Cameron: I don’t think so. Rehabbing arms aren’t worth as much as people assume.

2:19
Comment From Jamie
What am I missing, why do White Sox want Cespedes?

2:19
Dave Cameron: Avisail Garcia sucks.

2:20
Comment From Think the yankees make any more moves?
I think the rumored trade is more like: Ross to Boston / Castro, Sandoval, prospects & cash to Padres / Kimbrel to Cubs

2:20
Dave Cameron: Could be.

2:21
Comment From Brian Cashman
what should i give up for capps?

2:22
Dave Cameron: A good amount. He’s crazy good.

2:22
Comment From Mags
Mets making a big push for Cespedes, thoughts?

2:22
Dave Cameron: He might be a better CF option than Granderson. Still not sure that any of these guys are good fits, really. They needed a CF. They blew it.

2:23
Comment From MSW
What’s your take on the botched Mets-Gomez deal? Are the Mets viewed as poorly within the industry as they are outside of it?

2:23
Dave Cameron: No, that wouldn’t be possible.

2:23
Dave Cameron: I think people in the game have a good amount of respect for Alderson.

2:23
Comment From Blitz
Gordon Edes (ESPN Boston) reporting JBJ could be going to SD

2:24
Dave Cameron: That would make sense. They could use him.

2:24
Comment From ZachA
I love Capps, he’s obviously sick. But what are the chances MLB reverses its decision and rules his delivery illegal? I think there is a strong case to say they should.

2:24
Dave Cameron: He still throws 98.

2:24
Comment From SS
What are your thoughts on the Mike Leake trade?

2:24
Dave Cameron: Return seemed a little light to me, but good move for SF.

2:25
Comment From Jake
If not the Dodgers, who’s won so far?

2:25
Dave Cameron: Astros have done very well.

2:25
Comment From Padres Jagoff
Would you give Ian Kennedy a qualifying offer? If not, shouldn’t he be traded for the best offer available?

2:25
Dave Cameron: No, and yes, but you can move him in August, probably.

2:25
Comment From Confused
Why exactly have the Yankees been rumored in deals for Chapman, Kimbrel, and Capps? High leverage relief is a clear strength for the Yankees. Are they trying to out-Royal the Royals?

2:26
Dave Cameron: The playoffs are more and more moving away from starters and towards relievers. This is the natural evolution of teams taking advantage of the times-through-the-order penalty.

2:27
Comment From The Oriole Bird
Care to share a hot take on the Davies-for-Parra deal?

2:27
Dave Cameron: Both teams did fine!

2:27
Dave Cameron: The exclamation is the hot part of the take.

2:28
Comment From Mookie
What does a typical GM office look like right now? Doors bolted shut, caterers ready with quick food, port-a-potties, and IT guys standing ready to make sure no lines go down at critical moments?

2:28
Dave Cameron: Would guess most teams probably have a conference room setup for the mid/low level guys to work in, and then the execs are in a suite or something.

2:29
Comment From Sn4k3rjaker
Do you think Minnesota is sitting right or will they make another move to try to stick in the WC hunt?

2:29
Dave Cameron: I think they realize this isn’t going to last, no point throwing good money after bad.

2:29
Comment From Mookie
What is the world did we ever do before Twitter?

2:29
Dave Cameron: Go outside.

2:30
Comment From STiVo
re times-through-the-order penalty–is it more based on pitcher fatigue or some sort of repeated familiarity through recent exposure?

2:30
Dave Cameron: Both, probably.

2:30
Comment From Stan
Really, what happened with the Mets getting Gomez? Will we ever know?

2:30
Dave Cameron: Doubt it. It’s always going to be hearsay.

2:30
Comment From What we all really want to know
The trade deadline is at 4:00 Eastern as everyone knows, but my question is by whose clock? Has the MLB made all GMs synchronize watches? If Preller calls in a trade at 3:58 Easter on his watch but 4:02 Eastern on Manfred’s, does the deal go through?

2:31
Dave Cameron: There’s an atomic clock that is widely accepted as the “correct” time, right? So if your watch is not set to that, you screwed up.

2:31
Comment From Vance
Thoughts on the Dodgers maybe flipping Wood for Chapman?

2:31
Dave Cameron: That would be silly.

2:33
Comment From Stan
Not sure he fits the Mets, but 2.5 years of Bruce for 3.5 years of Wheeler is pretty even, right?

2:33
Dave Cameron: Yeah. Wheeler’s cheaper in those years, but also more risky, and no present value.

2:33
Comment From Aaron
In your opinion, what has been the best deadline deal so far?

2:33
Dave Cameron: Dodgers end of the three team deal.

2:33
Comment From Taylor
Convince me there’s a reason for the Dodgers to trade for Gallardo.

2:33
Dave Cameron: I don’t see one.

2:34
Comment From Frankur
Who would you rather have and why – Ross or Cashner?

2:34
Dave Cameron: Ross.

2:34
Comment From lunch
shouldn’t the braves be selling those few old guys they have left? we haven’t heard anything about them. somebody would probably want pierznyski, right? actually, maybe not.

2:35
Dave Cameron: Someone will want them in August too. No urgency to move guys like that now.

2:35
Comment From Alan
So at this point, the Mets should just sit on their hands and take the heat, right?

2:35
Dave Cameron: Maybe, yeah.

2:35
Dave Cameron: Though PR is worth something. I don’t know how much, but something.

2:35
Comment From The Internet
How much false information do you think is published (either by agents or clubs) in order to make trades happen and/or drive up potential prices?

2:36
Dave Cameron: A decent amount. That Cespedes-Nats thing had zero truth to it, apparently. Someone just made tha tup.

2:36
Comment From Vance
With Wood throwing a lot of his pitches low in the strike zone, how big will Grandal (+13.7 RAA framing) help him?

2:36
Dave Cameron: Would bet that’s part of why LA targeted him.

2:38
Comment From Sleight of Hand Pro
wouldn’t it be better for the sport to play everyday in the playoffs? maybe one day off in between series. I just feel like there should be a better excuse than “TV ratings”

2:38
Dave Cameron: The real reason is travel.

2:38
Dave Cameron: Unless you have a single site series, you can’t expect teams to fly across the country and play the same day.

2:39
Comment From Frankur
Kimbrel is signed to a reasonable contract, no? Shouldn’t he bring in a better haul than Chapman?

2:39
Dave Cameron: No, Chapman’s contract is even friendlier.

2:39
Comment From Donnie Drapes
Are there any players who were DFA’d this week who might actually help out a contender?

2:40
Dave Cameron: I could see Morse ending up as a bench piece.

2:40
Dave Cameron: Five minute break.

2:46
Dave Cameron: Alright, thanks for bearing with us.

2:46
Dave Cameron: Let’s see what 50 trades I missed while I was gone.

2:47
Comment From Zac S
Dylan Bundy for Yoenis Cespedes. Reasonable for both parties?

2:47
Dave Cameron: Bundy has little value at this point.

2:47
Comment From Josh
Why would Nationals not play along with the made-up rumor? They could have driven the price up on a division rival.

2:48
Dave Cameron: Because then they’d have to explain to Werth/Harper/Span why one of them is maybe getting benched, or they at least thought about it.

2:48
Comment From doyers
You’ve mentioned that teams have concerns about Alex Wood’s durability because of his funky delivery/mechanics, but isn’t the “bad mechanics = injury risk” analysis highly speculative?

2:48
Dave Cameron: Yup, but teams still less comfortable with anything non-traditional. Remember the reaction to Trevor Bauer’s pre-game workouts?

2:48
Comment From Likey, likey
Hi Dave why couldn’t somebody with working knowledge like Kiley run this? There’s already enough speculation and BS opinions to read.

2:49
Dave Cameron: I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties.

2:49
Dave Cameron: (Kiley did a chat about 2 hours ago, by the way. Good job on being an ass, though.)

2:51
Comment From Young Michael
How secure is Preller’s job? Is he trying to salvage his reputation at this point? Or will he get another year or two.

2:51
Dave Cameron: Almost no one fires a GM after one year. He’ll get at least one more crack at this.

2:52
Comment From Glenn
How informed are managers? Feels like there’s a lot of them saying that nothing’s going to happen but is that just spin control to keep their players from freaking out?

2:52
Dave Cameron: They’re in the loop. Maybe not to every detail, but they know what’s going on generally.

2:52
Comment From Grant
If Bundy has little value, the O’s messed up. Shouldn’t they trade Gausman while he still has some value and not make the same mistake?

2:53
Dave Cameron: Pitchers get hurt, but not every pitcher gets hurt. You shouldn’t trade every arm because some of them break.

2:53
Comment From MSW
If managers were kept in the loop, Wilmer Flores would have been pulled. Such an easily avoidable situation.

2:54
Dave Cameron: Or they knew that the deal wasn’t done and didn’t want to prematurely pull Flores before the medicals…

2:55
Comment From Relsh
Any truth to the Angels going after Cespedes? Seems like he’s exactly what that lineup needs.

2:55
Dave Cameron: They don’t have anything to offer DET, really.

2:55
Comment From Young Michael
Which GM’s job depends the most on this trade deadline? Or is that even a factor?

2:56
Dave Cameron: Anthoplous could probably get fired if TOR crashes and burns down the stretch, especially if Tulo blows out his hips next week or something.

2:56
Comment From Rob
Are you buying Houston as a legit WS threat after their deadline moves?

2:57
Dave Cameron: Yeah, the AL is wide open, and they have a good shot.

2:57
Comment From Relsh
Andrew Heaney as main piece for Cespedes be fair?

2:57
Dave Cameron: Cespedes isn’t worth that.

2:58
Comment From The Maddness
Wheeler for Cespedes is too high a price, right?

2:58
Dave Cameron: Yes.

2:59
Comment From Joey
What are the odds that the Boston/San Diego/Chicago megatrade falls apart?

2:59
Dave Cameron: Well it doesn’t sound all that likely to begin with.

2:59
Comment From Drew
If the Yankees acquire Capps, who closes? Still Miller?

3:00
Dave Cameron: I’d say they wouldn’t care too much at that point, but it would be more ideal to have RH and LH setup guys and RH closer than two RH guys setting up LH closer.

3:01
Comment From Joey
Do you have plans for an hour from now? Taking a nap, or maybe going for a walk?

3:01
Dave Cameron: The news keeps trickling in well after 4:00. We usually can’t say we have all the deals covered until an hour or so after.

3:01
Dave Cameron: Plan for this weekend is to spend almost no time behind a computer, though.

3:01
Comment From harbs
do an emergency podcast with carson

3:02
Dave Cameron: We’re doing one tonight, after the wife goes to bed. Recording at around 10 pm, will be up on the site tomorrow.

3:02
Comment From Hildebeast21
do the jays now have the best defensive unit in baseball?

3:02
Dave Cameron: Not unless they traded for all of the Kansas City players when I wasn’t looking.

3:03
Comment From Evan
The Fish would require a Top 30 prospect for Capps? I mean Capps is downright dominant. Would the possibility of the MLB outlawing his delivery hurt his value?

3:04
Dave Cameron: You’re not getting that for a reliever with a short track record.

3:04
Dave Cameron: But they’d get a solid guy.

3:04
Comment From Ryan
Dodgers shopping Wood?

3:04
Dave Cameron: No reason to think that. People keep linking the Dodgers to big name veterans, but the Dodgers haven’t acquired a single one of those since Friedman and Zaidi took over. It’s not what they do.

3:05
Comment From shawn
do you see the pirates doing anything today? should they try to upgrade back of rotation?

3:05
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I don’t think I’d trust Burnett/Locke or Morton as my #3/#4 in the postseason. Iwakuma or Gallardo or someone like that would help.

3:05
Comment From HR
Who are the big names that get moved in August?

3:06
Dave Cameron: Maybe James Shields. Napoli.

3:07
Comment From Spencer+McPablo
The Bucs would gladly have Burnett as their #3 in the playoffs.

3:07
Dave Cameron: He was throwing 88 last night, has looked off the last few weeks. Might not be healthy by October.

3:08
Comment From Frank
Isn’t it a little unfair to call the Dodgers Wood/Latos trade the best deal so far? Sure, it looks good talent-wise but they’re eating over $40 million of money. When you can eat $40 million of dead contracts, every trade is going to look good.

3:08
Dave Cameron: Yes, they have advantages some teams don’t have. But lots of other teams have money too, and Dodgers only ones using it this way.

3:09
Comment From Sean
Think the Dbacks trade Ziegler?

3:09
Dave Cameron: They should, but probably not.

3:09
Comment From Guest
BIgger failure in quickly “rebuilding” a team — Padres getting Shields, Upton, Kimbrel, etc or Marlins signing Buehrle, Reyes, etc. It seems like both teams went all in with a get good quick plan and immediately regretted that decision.

3:09
Dave Cameron: Padres plan was more harmful.

3:10
Comment From Mike
Whose the biggest player that a team should trade, but wont?

3:10
Dave Cameron: Todd Frazier

3:10
Comment From Mike
Does it bother you to hear fans and analysts say “At least Preller made the Padres exciting”. Isnt winning games what brings fans to the park, not an over the hill DH playing the OF.

3:11
Dave Cameron: The “they had to do something” argument is atrocious.

3:11
Dave Cameron: People who ran teams used to think that way. They all got fired and have been replaced by people who use logic and reason.

3:11
Comment From Nomde
Cubs and Dodgers talking Alex Wood, according to Joel Sherman

3:12
Dave Cameron: That would be an odd fit.

3:12
Comment From HR
The Padres are averaging 4,000 more people per game.

3:12
Dave Cameron: And they’ll be down 6,000 per game next year.

3:13
Comment From Len
Public sentiment and loyalties aside, *should* the M’s trade Felix today if it were to bring back players ready to help the team in 2016?

3:13
Dave Cameron: Not a good time to be selling pitching.

3:14
Comment From chuckb
The Padres additional 4000 are season ticket holders who bought based on expectations. Those expectations will be significantly worse next year.

3:14
Dave Cameron: Yep. You can get a short-term boost by selling false hope, but you lose it all and more when it blows up in your face.

3:15
Dave Cameron: Crasnick says Padres keeping Upton. That’s a disaster for Preller.

3:15
Comment From Jeff Gross
Why dont the Padres offer the Mets Upton+cash for Wheeler?

3:15
Dave Cameron: Mets aren’t giving up Wheeler for a rental.

3:16
Comment From chuckb
The Padres held on to Upton too long and ran out of buyers.

3:16
Dave Cameron: Yup.

3:16
Dave Cameron: (They still have 45 minutes to prove that wrong, of course.)

3:16
Comment From gav
You think the Jays will catch the Yankees after these moves?

3:17
Dave Cameron: Probably not. But they’ll be a fun Wild Card game team to watch.

3:17
Comment From MSW
Eerily quiet 45 minutes out. Does the deadline explode or fizzle?

3:17
Dave Cameron: I bet we get a big flurry right at the end.

3:17
Comment From Kevin
We don’t know what offers Preller received, but why hold on to Upton and get NOTHING??

3:17
Dave Cameron: Well you won’t get nothing; you’ll get a draft pick. But that’s less than they should have gotten.

3:18
Comment From MSW
Juston Upton, traded after the deadline? Or would he not pass through waivers?

3:18
Dave Cameron: Zero chance he goes through waivers. Philly would probably put in a claim, even.

3:18
Comment From Me
Preller bashing has begun! They have the same record this year as last year – sure they’re down a Trae Turner. But they can bring back most everyone outside of Upton. Maybe they do flip Ross/Cashner for some nice infield pieces. Are they really drastically worse than a year ago?

3:18
Dave Cameron: They’re down their entire farm system and they took on some really awful long-term commitments to not get any better. The team is WAY, WAY worse off than they were a year ago.

3:19
Comment From Mike
Joe Ross, Jesse Hahn, Matt Wisler, Max Fried, and even a decent Jace Pederson. Theyre down a LOT more than just Turner

3:19
Comment From Plucky
Given current rosters, if MLB hit the reset switch and started the season over, who would you expect the 5 AL playoff teams to be?

3:20
Dave Cameron: Toronto to win the East, KC to win the Central, Houston to win the West, LAA and NYY to win the WC.

3:20
Dave Cameron: Jay Bruce not in the Reds line-up. So that’s something.

3:21
Comment From Mike, of Mike and the Mechanics Fame
Do you think any of the recently-acquired players (e.g., Parra) will get signed for medium- or long-term deals by their new clubs?

3:21
Dave Cameron: Leake would be my best guess.

3:21
Comment From Troke
So who’s roaming the outfield in Milwaukee with Gomez and Parra gone? Shane Peterson? Is he any good and is there anyone else (other than Braun, duh)?

3:21
Dave Cameron: Domingo Santana probably goes straight to the big leagues.

3:22
Comment From lunch
whats the weirdest thing that has a chance of happening in the next 38 minutes?

3:23
Dave Cameron: Marlins take on money?

3:23
Comment From Jeff Gross
Whats the likelihood the Cubs end up with one of Wood/Cashner/Ross/Carrasco in the next 100 minutes?

3:23
Dave Cameron: I’d guess slim.

3:23
Dave Cameron: You don’t make the Haren deal if you think you’re getting another arm, right?

3:24
Comment From Hamist02
There is a _____% chance that MLB steps in to the Mets situation like they did with Frank McCourt.

3:24
Dave Cameron: 0.1

3:24
Comment From Dan
Who would you rather have Bruce or Cespedes?

3:25
Dave Cameron: Cespedes is better, Bruce is wroth more because of contract.

3:26
Comment From Jeff Gross
Upton+Benoit for Wheeler — does that make sense?

3:26
Dave Cameron: Still not enough long-term value for NYM, probably.

3:26
Comment From gav
Very happy to see Cashman finally hold onto top prospects, but with a shaky rotation, do you think NYY will regret not getting another viable starter?

3:27
Dave Cameron: Can get a decent back-end guy in August.

3:28
Comment From MSW
What if instead it was Upton and Kimbrel for Wheeler?

3:28
Dave Cameron: Doubt Mets would want to take on Kimbrel’s money.

3:28
Dave Cameron: Maybe if SD paid it down.

3:29
Comment From Theo Epstien
Dave, before I send Javier Baez to Cleveland for Carrasco, I wanted to get your opinion, and see if the Indians are unreasonable asking for McKinney as well

3:29
Dave Cameron: I don’t think that’s unreasonable at all. Carrasco’s contract makes him very valuable.

3:29
Comment From sleep
Samardjiza staying put ? White Sox have reason to still believe they can re-claim 2.5 games?

3:29
Dave Cameron: Market for SPs is soft, so value of keeping him for a miracle run + draft pick probably worth as much as what they could get.

3:30
Dave Cameron: Nightengale says Cespedes about to go.

3:30
Dave Cameron: Rosenthal says Wood/LA rumors were false, which makes more sense.

3:31
Comment From Natitude Adjuster
Which Ross will have more career WAR at the end of their careers: Joe or Tyson?

3:31
Dave Cameron: Tyson has a big head start, so he’s the safe pick.

3:32
Comment From Bob
If you had one trade to make today, what would it be?

3:32
Dave Cameron: Some cash for a sandwich. I misread my ability to get lunch earlier, now I’m screwed.

3:33
Comment From Bob
Lunch Ability: 20 / 70

3:33
Comment From Chris
If Greinke opts out, can the Dodgers give him a qualifying offer?

3:33
Dave Cameron: Yes

3:33
Comment From Vance
Even if the market only offered a talapia sandwich?

3:33
Dave Cameron: At that point, starvation would be the better option.

3:33
Comment From The Maddness
you cant get some delivery? jimmy johns? dominos? cmon. i’m not buying that. are you backing out because of cost or because the sandwich might be bad? is the value not there? whats the FV of a sandwich over some pizza?

3:34
Dave Cameron: Jimmy Johns is not good.

3:34
Comment From Dk
How do August trades work vs. trade deadline deals re: playoff availability?

3:34
Dave Cameron: The same. As long as you’re in the org by August 31st, you’re eligible for the playoffs.

3:35
Dave Cameron: Unless you’ve been suspended for PEDs. I’m looking at you, Ervin Santana.

3:35
Comment From Dallas
If Upton were to get claimed and dumped via waivers, would he be eligible for a qualifying offer?

3:35
Dave Cameron: Nope. You have to have a guy on Opening Day to be able to make him a QO.

3:35
Comment From Relsh
Favorite inexpensive place to go on a date?

3:35
Dave Cameron: I have a 7 month old; my definition of a “date” has changed dramatically.

3:36
Comment From Minty
Is Upton for Baez worth more for the Padres or Cubs?

3:36
Dave Cameron: Cubs would have zero interest in that.

3:36
Comment From Rob
So Chicago and New York out on Kimbrel. Arizona out on Chapman. Which one would you rather have if you are Houston?

3:36
Dave Cameron: Chapman.

3:37
Comment From Relsh
Imagining dad life turns my world upside down.

3:38
Dave Cameron: We have a very happy, low maintenance child. We are super lucky that I can work from home, and found a great part-time nanny to help out with the childcare. The in-laws live 20 minutes away and help too. And it’s still a ton of work. I have absolutely no idea how single parents do it. No idea.

3:38
Comment From MSW
At 3:37, how many GMs are literally talking on two phones at once?

3:38
Dave Cameron: I think most of this is done by text now

3:39
Comment From if not wheeler from the mets, who could det possibly expect from the mets?
I thought most gms were on a chat like this

3:39
Comment From if not wheeler from the mets, who could det possibly expect from the mets?

I DISAGREE

3:39
Comment From Nobody Important
Alex Wood for Carrasco?

3:39
Dave Cameron: Don’t think Indians would do that.

3:39
Comment From Yahoody
Out of the box…would you ever turn in your cell phone to anyone?

3:40
Dave Cameron: Sure, but I don’t have any incriminating evidence of anything on my phone. Just lots of pictures of my dog.

3:41
Comment From Daniel C
Did you and the wife go on a Babymoon as a last hurrah before parenthood took up all your free time?

3:41
Dave Cameron: We talked about it, but I don’t remember ever doing it.

3:42
Comment From Jeff Gross
MLBTR is having issues loading for people at the worst possible time; nerds everywhere forced to be productive at work.

3:42
Dave Cameron: That’s why FG has an Omnibus post!

3:43
Comment From mmarsden
How long after the deadline will we keep hearing trades that took place?

3:43
Dave Cameron: I’d guess 30-90 minutes.

3:43
Comment From Natitude Adjuster
Wait, you don’t have pics of your kid on your cell phone? i think my phone’s storage capacity is nearly full, and it’s taken up with 99% baby/toddler pics.

3:44
Dave Cameron: I have some kid pictures. More dog ones, though. My wife is annoyed that I like my dog as much or maybe more than my kid, but I don’t have to change my dog’s diapers, and she is way more excited to see me when I leave the room and come back.

3:44
Comment From Jeff Gross
15 min to go – think any major “WHOA” trades go down?

3:44
Dave Cameron: Doubt it.

3:44
Dave Cameron: We had that on Monday night.

3:45
Comment From Hareeb al-Saq
Braves return was probably light, right? If the Cuban contract was fair when signed, that’s like 30MM surplus, plus the pick at 13ish, so if Peraza can hit in the show at *all*, like enough to be a 1-win player for 4 years, and Wood’s arm doesn’t fall off for a year, they’re taking the ass end of it. And that’s assuming the Cuban justifies his Dodgers signing price.

3:45
Dave Cameron: They dumped Arroyo too, but yeah, I don’t love the return.

3:45
Comment From Soothsayer
Cespedes and Rajai both in tonight’s line up

3:45
Dave Cameron: That can change.

3:46
Comment From Troke
The failed Mets trade for Gomez: Were the Mets really worried about health, or did Wilpon’s post-Maddoff PTSD flare up?

3:46
Dave Cameron: Or, alternately, they were a little worried about health, enough to ask for extra value in the deal to offset their concern, and MIL told them to go pound sand, so the whole thing fell apart.

3:47
Dave Cameron: Think of it like a home inspection when buying a house. If your inspector suggests you need a new HVAC system, asking for $10,000 doesn’t mean you don’t want the house, but if the seller says he won’t pay anything, maybe you walk away anyway.

3:48
Dave Cameron: “The Mets are cheap” is a very easy story to sell, but that doesn’t make it the truth in every scenario.

3:48
Dave Cameron: We don’t know what happened. Maybe the Mets backed out over cash. it’s possible. I just don’t think that should be the null hypothesis.

3:49
Dave Cameron: Hah, I called it; Marlins getting cash in the Dan Haren deal, even though they are dumping the MLB veteran and not getting anyone back who makes any money.

3:49
Dave Cameron: Cespedes to the Mets, per Bruce Levine.

3:50
Comment From Vance
So the Marlin got paid TWICE for dealing involving Dan Haren?

3:50
Dave Cameron: This is what they do.

3:51
Comment From affsoy
The Mets do NOT need a rental for 2015 !!!!!

3:51
Dave Cameron: Especially one who forces Granderson to CF, but let’s wait to see what the cost is.

3:51
Comment From MSW
Mets needed a PR boost more than anything. I just hope it was truly a reasonable price

3:51
Dave Cameron: If it’s not a huge talent cost, placating the fan base and taking a shot might be worth it.

3:51
Comment From Al
Just not Wheeler

3:52
Dave Cameron: Wheeler for two months of Cespedes would be nuts, yes.

3:52
Dave Cameron: Rosenthal confirms Cespedes to the Mets. I’m going to go start writing about this. Paul Swydan will handle the rest of the chat.

3:55
Paul Swydan: Hi everyone!

3:55
Paul Swydan: The Mets did it! The little engine that could!

3:56
Comment From Daniel C
Hi Paul

3:56
Paul Swydan: Wow there’s a lot of questions in here.

3:56
Comment From Raindog
Hi Paul! Make some wild predictions for the next 5 minutes!

3:56
Paul Swydan: I still think Upton goes somewhere.

3:56
Comment From Soothsayer
What did they give up though?

3:56
Paul Swydan: Heyman says “two minor leaguers” just now on MLB Network. No Wheeler.

3:56
Comment From The Goldenschmidt Ticket
assuming the red sox don’t have a last minute deal in the works, how big of a failure was this season on a scale of 1 to Bobby Valentine?

3:57
Paul Swydan: Honestly, it’s past Bobby Valentine levels. At least Valentine was honest. Farrell just sits back and talks in platitudes.

3:57
Comment From Guest040713
Hi Paul. What pairs best with this Red Sox trade deadline? Whiskey Tequila or Hemlock?

3:57
Paul Swydan: I’m gonna say the whiskey tequila. Hemlock is the easy way out.

3:58
Comment From STiVo
What’s the most common conceptual error people make when analyzing trades? (My guess is not taking salaries into account.)

3:58
Paul Swydan: I think either that or years remaining under contract, which I consider to be a little bit bigger of a deal.

3:58
Comment From Steve
How did the Padres not do anything?

3:59
Paul Swydan: Oh, that’s easy. Preller too stubborn to admit he was wrong. I probably would be too if I had messed up as badly as he did.

3:59
Comment From Anonymous
Hi Paul. Where do you think this deadline ranks in recent history? It’s seemed pretty entertaining, but not as frantic.

3:59
Paul Swydan: I think if we look at it in terms of the whole week, it’s right at the top of my lifetime. If we look at it as just today, pretty normal. Twitter just amplifies everything, for better or worse.

4:00
Comment From affsoy
Making moves to keep the fan base happy has to be the dumbest philosophy ever.

4:00
Paul Swydan: Well, not the dumbest. You need fans to come to the games…

4:00
Comment From Guest
No Uehara deal? WTH?

4:01
Paul Swydan: Red Sox really want to see if he can become the 6th 41-year-old closer to net 20+ saves in a single season.

4:01
Comment From HappyFunBall
MLBTradeRumors.com having traffic issues. YOU HAVE ONE JOB!!

4:01
Paul Swydan: Aww, leave those guys alone. They do so much for us!

4:01
Comment From Guest
The Red Sox can make dumb moves and still sell out every game’

4:01
Paul Swydan: I have been to five Red Sox games this season. Not one was close to a sell out.

4:02
Paul Swydan: At least in terms of people who actually showed up.

4:02
Comment From MSW
No way the Mets swallow their pride and platoon Grandy and Cuddyer, right? We’re looking at Granderson in CF. ugh.

4:02
Paul Swydan: I think they’ll just stash Cuddyer on that DL.

4:02
Paul Swydan: CUBS GOT TOMMY HUNTER, STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!!

4:03
Paul Swydan: Ken Rosenthal’s MLB Network Fathead is falling off of his wall. Awesome.

4:03
Comment From exxrox
41 year old closers…hm, Rivera/Hoffman/Smith/Hawkins/???

4:03
Paul Swydan: Not Smith. Hoyt Wilhelm and …… crap, hold on.

4:03
Comment From sleep
Which acquisition gets injured first?

4:04
Paul Swydan: The easy thing to say is Tulo. But maybe Carlos Gomez?

4:04
Comment From MSW
Caspedes gets injured on the flight to NY because #Mets

4:04
Paul Swydan: Winner.

4:05
Paul Swydan: Duh, it was Eck.

http://www.fangraphs.com/le…

4:05
Comment From The Oriole Bird
What did the O’s get for Hunter? Italian beef?

4:05
Paul Swydan: Italian seems too fancy. Maybe Vienna Beef.

4:05
Comment From Guest
Rosenthal: “largely standing pat because GM A.J. Preller believes the team can reach the postseason, source says.”

4:05
Paul Swydan: AKA he’s too stubborn.

4:05
Comment From exxrox
CRAP I was going to guess Eck and didn’t really believe myself. I wanted it to be less obvious.

4:06
Paul Swydan: Always believe in yourself when you’re using a pseudonym. You have nothing to lose!

4:06
Comment From The Maddness
Fulmer and Cessa for Cespedes. I think I would have rather done Wheeler for Bruce. Fulmer is going to be a #2/#3 starter.

4:07
Paul Swydan: I don’t know, I’m OK with both. The sticking point to Bruce was Cuddyer. They’d have to eat that contract and they’re not going to do that.

4:07
Paul Swydan: Cespedes fits better. They can stash Cuddyer on the DL, and hope he gets magically healthy for 2016.

4:07
Comment From Stan
That Cespedes trade is bad for the Mets.

4:07
Paul Swydan: It might be, but they had to do SOMETHING, and given the logistics of their roster, this is as good as they could do probably.

4:07
Comment From Nick
Preller doesn’t mean this year, does he? Seriously?? Fangraphs has their playoff odds at 4% right now, lolz.

4:08
Paul Swydan: He does, apparently. Ya gotta believe!

4:08
Comment From Alan
Would have much rather Wheeler for Bruce, have to think the Reds were the ones who balked at that.

4:08
Paul Swydan: Maybe.

4:08
Comment From The Boat
If the Mets traded Wheeler for Harper, Mets fans would complain they didn’t get Trout. THE METS CAN DO NOTHING RIGHT!!!

4:08
Paul Swydan: I love this comment.

4:09
Comment From Sox
Junior Lake to O’s for Hunter

4:09
Comment From Hareeb al-Saq
Preller = RAJ 2.0 Book it.

4:09
Paul Swydan: You know, I don’t know, Ruben did pretty good for himself this week.

4:09
Paul Swydan: And Ruben’s crime was falling in love with his guys, which is a fairly typical GM mistake. Preller’s mistakes were far more atypical and much more disastrous.

4:10
Comment From affsoy
Any rental for the Mets is a complete waste. They have zero chance of winning this year. I’m sorry, selling tickets is not a reason to make a trade. Does a Cespeded ticket sales bump cover his salary ? Unlikely.

4:11
Paul Swydan: I’m not sure that I agree that the Mets have no chance of winning this year. You get into a short series with that rotation, and if Wright and d’Arnaud come back….

Look, the odds aren’t good, but there is definitely a non-zero chance.

4:11
Comment From The Maddness
I’m sorry, 0 chance of winning when teams would have to face degrom/Thor/Harvey/Matz? Cmon. Be realistic.

4:11
Comment From affsoy
Not only that: Benoit > Cespedes for the Mets. With Mejia gone, their 7th inning is a mess.

4:11
Paul Swydan: Definitely don’t agree with that. The Mets bullpen has been bad these past couple of weeks, but for the season has been just fine. And Mejia hasn’t really been part of it at all this year, so not sure why his loss is that big of a deal.

4:12
Comment From Mike
Do you think Ruben was the one actually pulling the strings this week? Seems like a total change from the few years. I have to think it wasn’t him doing these deals.

4:12
Paul Swydan: Well, that may be, but his crimes were still fairly typical GM crimes.

4:12
Comment From Z
Junior Lake is a total O’s player: high-K, low-walk, decent-power guy.

4:12
Paul Swydan: He is indeed.

4:12
Comment From gav
isn’t junior lake for tommy hunter way too much? I must be over valuing lake….

4:12
Paul Swydan: You must be.

4:12
Comment From Anthony
Why can’t the Mets still get Bruce by giving up Wheeler to go along with Cespedes? Wouldn’t that greatly improve their offense?

4:13
Paul Swydan: Well the main reason is that Bruce would never make it through waivers unclaimed….

4:13
Comment From Alan
My concern is if the Cespedes acquisition pushes Granderson to center field, then it looks a lot more like a lateral move than a real upgrade for the Mets.

4:14
Paul Swydan: Yes, but I think the more likely arrangement is Lagares in CF, Granderson and Cespedes in corners, Conforto and Cuddyer on bench/minors/DL

4:14
Comment From Daniel C
Who’s the best player that gets moved post deadline, and what do you think that deal might look like? And do you ever go to the Beer Works in Salem? Might be my favorite place for microbrews in New England.

4:15
Paul Swydan: I haven’t been to Salem since I worked at the Peabody Essex Museum back in 2002-3.

As for best player post deadline…….De Aza? It’s hard to move good players in August because usually at least one team claims them as blocks.

4:15
Comment From Eddie Brock
Do you think the Rockies can convince the Mets they need Reyes in the off season? If not who do see as the best fit for him?

4:16
Paul Swydan: No, I think the Mets are too cheap and the Rockies are too stubborn. I think the Rockies will just keep him. They didnt even bother moving CarGo.

4:16
Paul Swydan: I guess CarGo might be able to sneak through waivers though, now that I think about it. Given his injury history and contract, teams would probably be hesitant to block.

4:16
Comment From Guest040713
Even John Farrell wouldn’t play Grandy in center Mets fans should avoid prematurely freaking out.

4:16
Paul Swydan: I don’t know, I could see John Farrell doing that.

4:16
Paul Swydan: He played Brock Holt there….

4:16
Comment From Compton
Who had the best deadline in your opinion? Worst(besides the Padres)?

4:17
Paul Swydan: Blue Jays, Astros and Phillies for best.
Rockies, Red Sox, Yankees, Padres for worst

4:17
Comment From Yo-Yo
What is Mozeliak doing? Moss, who looks to be in heavy decline, and Broxton, who is iffy, at best. They technically filled needs, but they were filled with subpar players.

4:18
Paul Swydan: I think Broxton will be just fine. Moss……..we’ll see. It reminded me of the Toukki Toussant trade. Maybe the Cardinals know something about Kaminsky that we don’t.

4:18
Comment From Guest040713
Farrell would only play Grandy in Center if his only other option was giving playing time to JBJ, who must have done something truly completely awful to Farrell’s pet cats.

4:18
Comment From Mike
How are the Yankees worst? Their rotation, as shaky as it is, would still be the best in the AL for the playoffs. Good offense, great bullpen

4:18
Paul Swydan: There were reports of Pineda being banged up, were there not? Nova too? I don’t know, I expected big things from this week.

4:18
Comment From affsoy
Fulmer better 2015 than Matz. Matz is older yet completely untouchable. This Cespedes deal is awful. Pitchfork management = fail.

4:19
Paul Swydan: affsoy is NOT pleased, you guys. Not sure if you all noticed that yet.

4:19
Comment From Anonymous
Best: Dodgers. Worst: Giants (by virtue of having their playoff odds tied to the Dodgers)

4:19
Paul Swydan: I don’t know, they needed an SP and got one.

4:19
Comment From Sox
Morse for Jose Tabata

4:19
Paul Swydan: Oh, interesting!

4:20
Comment From Blitz
Paul, Do you have a favorite trade deadline memory? Mine was staying up to hear the announcement of Slocumb to the Mariners for Lowe/Varitek around 12:15am on August 1, 1997.

4:21
Paul Swydan: My most VIVID trade deadline memory is in 04 when the Nomar trade wasn’t reported until 45 minutes past the deadline, and I was so mad that I spilled a giant glass of Coke all over the place when I banged my fist on the table. Later that night the local news showed video of children balling their eyes out.

4:21
Paul Swydan: Of course, it all worked out in the end. But I was still furious at the time. Instructive moment for Mets fans, I guess.

4:21
Comment From Josh
Could James Shields clear waivers and where could you see him landing?

4:21
Paul Swydan: I would be surprised if Shields cleared waivers, yes.

4:21
Comment From affsoy
Dave Roberts for Nomar ( if I recall correctly ). Most unlikely outcome of any deadline deal.

4:22
Paul Swydan: No, no, that wasn’t the deal. Roberts was a separate trade. Nomar was in the 3-way that had O-Cabs and Doug Mien… back to the Sox, and the ginger Georgia Tech OF also going to the Cubs.

4:22
Paul Swydan: I can’t remember his name.

4:22
Comment From The Maddness
Also, Matz is a LEFTY. I think that’s worth a little bit more in this day and age.

4:22
Paul Swydan: Just a little, especially since the rest of their young’ns are righties.

4:22
Comment From chuckb
Matt murton

4:23
Paul Swydan: YES! Thank you. That was going to annoy the crap out of me.

4:23
Comment From Kate Upton: Fantasy MVP
Yankees rotation best in the AL? That’s crazy talk. It’s Tanaka and a bunch of bums right now with Pineda on the DL.

4:24
Comment From Maxamuz
I was upset in 04 about the Nomar trade too Paul. I feel ya.

4:25
Comment From Adam
The ginger Georgia Tech is Matt Murton….MATT MURTON!!

4:25
Comment From Ryan
Matt Murton! Did you guys know he’s a superstar in Japan now? Like, literally, he is big in Japan.

4:25
Paul Swydan: OK guys, sorry I forgot Matt Murton’s name. And yes, the Japan thing sounds vaguely familiar.

4:25
Comment From The Maddness
Yanks said they would trade Mateo and eat Gyorko deal to get Kimbrel and the Pads said NO?! That’s a fireable offense.

4:26
Paul Swydan: Well, sometimes teams embellish when the deal doesn’t go their way so they can shut down all of the “WHY YOU DO NOTHING?” questions.

4:26
Comment From Blitz
Red Sox get Ryan Cook for PTBNL

4:26
Paul Swydan: BLOCKBUSTER

4:26
Comment From Blueyays
I’m not even a Sox fan and the Nomar trade made me sad – I was one of those kids at the time, 8, and I remember seeing a newspaper with the trade on its cover while on vacation in Quebec on the 1st and asking my parents to buy it for me. Still have it, I think!

4:27
Paul Swydan: I sometimes forget that you guys aren’t all my age.

4:27
Comment From MSW
Honestly, isn’t the whole problem with the botched Gomez deal that they left Flores in and turned that in to a sideshow? Take him out after his standing ovation, then when the deal falls through, you move on. Leaving him in all game made the whole situation explode.

4:27
Paul Swydan: That was what got everyone to pay attention, but the Mets backing out and then changing their story about WHY they backed out was bound to turn ugly.

4:27
Comment From Maxamuz
You where 8!? That makes you..oh god.

4:27
Paul Swydan: Ssshhhh, shhhhh, it’s best not to think about.

4:27
Comment From Adam
pirates get JA Happ for RHP Adrian Sampson

4:28
Comment From Guest
Hah, Heyman: “yankees were willing to put in jorge mateo and take back gyorko and eat a good part of it to get kimbrel. pads said no.” Just awful.

4:28
Paul Swydan: If true, if true. If true, then yes, it’s pretty bad.

4:28
Comment From Hareeb al-Saq
Is there something weird about baseball players where their mothers don’t name them at birth?!?

4:28
Paul Swydan: Uh…..to what is this in reference? I actually think that not naming the child right at birth is pretty common.

4:30
Comment From Maxamuz
I completely forgot about Jason Bay till right now.

4:30
Paul Swydan: Me too!

4:30
Comment From Ken B
Any news on whether Chapman moved?

4:30
Paul Swydan: Yes. He went nowhere.

4:30
Comment From Guest
The chat seems all out of order

4:30
Paul Swydan: You’re out of order! The whole damn system is out of order!

4:30
Comment From Blitz
I’m assuming he was referring to “…to be named later” but still not funny

4:31
Paul Swydan: Ohhhhhhh. I get it! I get jokes!

4:31
Comment From Marcus Banks
Chances that a major deal went through that we haven’t heard about yet?

4:31
Paul Swydan: Yes, there is.

4:31
Comment From The Boat
Clutch Pacino reference, Paul.

4:31
Paul Swydan: (Whispers: It was really a Homer Simpson reference to me, but thank you)

4:32
Comment From Jay
I remember Kazmir-Zambrano #neverforget

4:32
Paul Swydan: Oh yeah, that was pretty vivid too.

I also remember that when the Sox got Victor Martinez, no one was impressed.

4:32
Comment From uruguayan
After the Happ trade, has everything been reported?

4:32
Paul Swydan: I could see something going down still.

4:33
Comment From Adam
Padres picked up Rzepcynski looks like it was a successful deadline for Preller after all…

4:33
Paul Swydan: So, there is like 3 or 4 deals announced after 4 pm.

4:33
Comment From Guest
I am upset the Red Sox didn’t make a move on Cashner. The Padres could sure use Jackie Bradley in that OF.

4:33
Paul Swydan: And I am conversely happy that the Sox didn’t trade Bradley.

4:34
Paul Swydan: Though yes, that would have looked good for the Padres I think.

4:34
Comment From Sox
So the Padres got another relief pitcher. What gives? Does this mean Kimbrel is dealt somewhere?

4:34
Paul Swydan: It means that AJ Preller believes in himself.

4:34
Comment From Jake
Do you know if the Astros stood pat?

4:34
Paul Swydan: Guys, I know what you know. In fact, I may know less than what you know, because I am totally focused on this chat and you guys are checking other stuff.

4:35
Comment From Daniel C
My phone is blowing up from my friends that are Mets fans who hate the Cespedas deal. Am I alone in thinking it’s not the worst move in the world? They desperately needed a bat, they have a glut of milb pitchers, and they get to keep Wheeler, which was the complaint over the almost Gomez deal from these very same folks. If they are going to compete this year, isn’t this a move they sort of had to make?

4:36
Paul Swydan: The glut is the big thing to remember. Maybe those guys will be great, but the Mets really don’t have anywhere to put them going forward. Even once Niese and Colon are gone, they still have Harvey/deG/Thor/Matz/Wheeler. Oh, and Montero. Might as well put those pitchers to good use.

4:36
Comment From Adam
May I be excused to go potty?

4:36
Paul Swydan: There is only one lavatory pass and I gave it to Marcus Banks, on account of his time with the Celtics.

4:36
Comment From Sox
Have you ever seen a trade season where these many young pitchers got moved?

4:38
Paul Swydan: No, and I don’t think that’s an accident. Maybe that is a reaction to the Addison Russell deal last year, but it is just easier to justify trading pitchers.

As I said the other day, it’s easy to trade away a pitcher because they’re all lottery tickets, but on the other side it’s to trade for a pitcher because you can never have enough of them. Or so the theory goes.

4:38
Comment From affsoy
Check out Fulmer’s season. Basically Aaron Nola with more K’s. More importantly, the Mets are out of it this year … they ought to be selling, not buying. They need to look to next year. Rentals are just a waste. They have to pass 2 of Cubs, Pirates, and Giants just to make the wild card.

4:39
Paul Swydan: We have the Mets playoff odds at 19%. This time last year the Royals were at 15%. The Mets are far from done, and get to beat up on the Braves and Marlins and Phillies in September, while the Cubs and Pirates have to play the Cubs and Pirates and Cardinals.

4:39
Comment From Blueyays
This chat should be renamed affsoy vs. Sandy Alderson

4:39
Paul Swydan: Don’t worry, that was the last one.

4:39
Comment From The Boat
Dear Mets fans: you’re three games out of the division!

4:40
Paul Swydan: Well, but this is how scarred some Mets fans are. They are finally in the thick of things, and can’t even recognize it because they’re used to the world crumbling before their eyes. Hard to blame them, honestly. I used to be like that before Pedro showed up in Boston.

4:40
Comment From Z
Evaluate the O’s deadline decisions please.

4:41
Paul Swydan: I like. They were stuck in the middle a little bit, but they made one good sneaky acquisition in Parra. Parra, right now, is a big bat. If he keeps it up, great! If he doesn’t, well they didn’t pay for him like he was a big bat. So that’s OK too.

4:42
Comment From Marcus Banks
Lol things were like that after Pedro got to Boston too.

4:42
Paul Swydan: I dunno, I’d love to replay that 99 ALCS without the Sox getting jobbed on those Knoblauch calls in Games 1 and 4.

4:42
Comment From tz
I wish I could upvote your comment about the scarred Mets fans

4:42
Paul Swydan: This is the best I can do.

4:42
Comment From Ryan
Brewers holding Lind is weird. Surely somebody wanted him?

4:43
Paul Swydan: They have an option for him for next year. Look, you try being Doug Melvin and telling Braun and Lucroy “hey we’re punting for a few years, you guys cool with that?”

4:43
Comment From The Oberamtmann
Please tell me the Yankees standing pat means they will call up Refsnyder and let him play for a few weeks?

4:44
Paul Swydan: Well, the one thing they DID do was get Ackley, who used to and still should be playing second base. So, no, I can’t tell you that. Sorry!

4:44
Comment From Marcus Banks
Yankees standing pat means they’re calling up Severino next week.

4:44
Paul Swydan: This I would be more comfortable with telling you.

4:44
Comment From Eddie Brock
I put off eating lunch till after the deadline and the majority of it ended up being METS WTF. Like i haven’t heard that before. Sorry I’m hungry. I’ll go eat now.

4:44
Paul Swydan: Thanks for stopping by, Eddie!

4:44
Comment From JP
Any thoughts on the Jepsen trade by the rays?

4:45
Paul Swydan: Well, it signaled that the Twins think they have a pulse and that the Rays probably don’t think they do. That’s important info, though I’m not sure exactly what we can do with it.

4:45
Comment From rustydude
What’s the worst ranked starter in fantasy that you would allow to matchup for a game vs Toronto?

4:45
Paul Swydan: Oh, good question. At this point, 150 would be pushing it.

4:46
Comment From Chris
As a San Diego sports fan, which should I expect first? A padres playoff appearance or a Los Angeles chargers playoff appearance?

4:46
Paul Swydan: LA Chargers.

4:46
Comment From TommyLasordid
What are chances some meaningful trades have been made but not reported?

4:46
Paul Swydan: I am comfortable saying that we’re past that now.

4:46
Comment From Brian
Were Chapman or Kimbrel ever truly available?

4:46
Paul Swydan: They should have been, but I really don’t know.

4:46
Comment From Guest
Lets not act like Lucroy shouldn’t have been traded.

4:46
Paul Swydan: Look, if the Brewers think they can come back and compete next year, I’m open to that argument.

4:48
Comment From Marcus Banks
Just came in that Brian Cashman accidentally set his alarm to PM last night. He just woke up 15 minutes ago.

4:48
Paul Swydan: Why separate knob, why separate knob!

4:48
Comment From Steve
Any news on Carrasco getting traded by the deadline? Or do you think the tribe was just dangling him to test the market?

4:48
Paul Swydan: I’m inclined to believe dangling, either to test value or screw with people. Damn Indians.

4:48
Comment From Guest040713
Trading for a catcher like Lucroy is risky because it is difficult to learn an entire new staff starting in August.

4:48
Paul Swydan: That’s a fair point. Never thought of it like that.

4:49
Comment From jj
how long does this chat go?

4:49
Paul Swydan: Actually, until right now, because my daughter is awake and wants to go for a walk. Thank you all so much for hanging out today, folks! You’re all the best!

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