Twins Return Correa to Sender For Partial Refund

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I was a young baseball writer working in Houston when Carlos Correa came up with the Astros. At the time, I was convinced that this 6-foot-4 mountain of a man with a massive throwing arm but unimpressive foot speed would end up at third base before too long. A lot has happened since then. When fellow shortstop prospect Alex Bregman got promoted a year later, it was Bregman, not Correa, who slid over to third. From there, Correa developed into a Platinum Glove winner and a consistent plus-10 defender or better.

Then Correa left the Astros entirely and stayed away after a successful one-season audition with the Twins. Even after a reunion with Houston was mooted in the lead-up to the deadline, the scuttlebutt said it wasn’t happening and the Astros traded for Ramón Urías to fill the Isaac Paredes-shaped hole in the infield.

But after all those bumps in the road, and after 10 years of waiting, I turned out to be right after all: Correa is headed back to Houston, along with $33 million in cash, for minor league left-hander Matt Mikulski, and in accordance with my prediction, Correa is going to play third base.

Never abandon your takes, kids, you have no idea when the universe will decide to prove you right.

The Astros further beefed up their lineup by adding outfielder Jesús Sánchez minutes after the Correa deal. Pitcher Ryan Gusto is going to Miami, along with prospects Esmil Valencia and Chase Jaworsky. That’s a sneaky good pickup, given the current state of Houston’s outfield, but Correa is the headliner.

Make no mistake: This is a salary dump. The Twins greased the wheels for this trade by paying down part of Correa’s contract, but even after the cash infusion, plus Minnesota’s share of remaining signing bonus payouts, Houston is taking on (by my math, which Jon Becker double-checked) some $70.4 million in salary between now and the end of 2028.

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Suffice it to say: If the Correa of 2025 were the Correa of 2017, or even the Correa of 2022, this deal would not be happening. The Twins signed Correa to lucrative free agent deals twice in the hopes of landing a legitimate superstar who’d slipped through the cracks. Remember how, in the 2022-23 offseason, Correa agreed to contracts worth more than $300 million with both the Giants and Mets, only to have those deals yanked after a physical?

The Twins, usually far from a hotbed of free agent activity, gave Correa a six-year, $200 million contract with incentives and options to stay in Minnesota. They thought the big market teams’ cowardice could be their gain, bringing a marketable two-way superstar to the Twin Cities for good.

Turns out the big market teams’ cowardice was actually just a smart decision. The specific injury at issue then was an old ankle surgery, and Correa’s leg has actually been fairly sound over the past three years.

He has, however, gone on the IL with plantar fasciitis twice and made other IL trips for a concussion and an intercostal strain, while missing the odd game here and there with various other injuries. If you count a stint on the COVID list in 2021 as an IL trip, 2020 is the only season since 2016 in which Correa avoided a stint on the IL.

And when he’s been able to stay on the field, the results have been inconsistent. Last year, Correa put up a .310/.388/.517 line with 14 homers in 86 games. That’s a 155 wRC+ and 4.2 WAR in about half a season — legitimate MVP territory. Or runner-up-to-Aaron-Judge-in-MVP-voting territory in this day and age, which is no less impressive. Then, of course, the plantar fasciitis flared up.

Correa was mostly healthy in 2023, and again this year, but he posted a 94 wRC+ then and a 97 wRC+ now, with 42 double plays across that season-and-a-half run.

This is sort of the converse of the Mets prospects who went to the Giants in the Tyler Rogers trade on Wednesday. Correa is as big a name as there is, and he played like a superstar just last year, but the name value doesn’t match up with the production. I think you have to treat him like an average hitter with the potential to be a very, very good defender at third. Anything the Astros get on top of that is gravy.

Even working by that extremely circumspect view of Correa, the Astros sure could use him; they’re currently out three-quarters of their Opening Day infield. Paredes just went on the IL with a season-ending hamstring strain. Jeremy Peña’s breakout season has been interrupted by a broken rib suffered in late June, though he just started a rehab assignment and should be back at shortstop in Houston soon. And Brendan Rodgers hasn’t been seen since he strained his oblique six weeks ago.

Add to that the going-on-three-month absence of Yordan Alvarez and Houston would surely welcome another power bat to the lineup. Two, in fact, if you count Sánchez.

Bringing back Correa feels opportunistic, part nostalgia trip and part “if we rub our lucky magic beans together maybe he’ll play 140 games a year and hit .300 again.” The Sánchez trade fills a more precise need.

In the past 100 years, there have been 27 players in the AL and/or NL who primarily played the outfield, batted right-handed, and threw left-handed. Rickey Henderson is the most famous by a huge margin, but this is a strange enough phenomenon that you probably remember Ryan Ludwick or Cody Ross or Guillermo Heredia as oddities.

There are only two such players in the league today: Chas McCormick and Jake Meyers, and they’re both Astros, and they’ve been sharing an outfield for the past five years.

I’ve never understood this. It’s like having two pet narwhals or two AMC Gremlins, so you can always have one to drive when the other breaks down. Actually, that’s exactly what the Astros are doing; Meyers is on the IL with a calf strain, while McCormick is chugging along as the short half of a center field platoon. Not that he’s hitting; McCormick has a 64 wRC+ since the start of 2024.

I find it hard to get worked up about Sánchez generally; the occasional bonkers exit velo notwithstanding, he’s an average player overall. But let’s look at his platoon splits, as well as the platoon splits of the other guys who are on the Astros roster and can play outfield.

Guys Who Can Play Outfield for the Astros
Player Total wRC+ wRC+ vs. LHP wRC+ vs. RHP
Jose Altuve 123 113 125
Taylor Trammell 116 117 116
Jesús Sánchez 105 7 125
Mauricio Dubón 103 129 95
Cam Smith 102 152 87
Cooper Hummel 71 115 38
Chas McCormick 59 129 33
Jacob Melton 51 -100 77

Not that you’d want to platoon a top prospect like Smith, who’s developing for tomorrow while playing today, but Sánchez fills Houston’s need for an outfielder with pop who can actually threaten right-handed pitchers. And he’s a solid corner outfield defender who has experience standing in center (Is he good there? Don’t worry about it!), which gives the team even more platoon flexibility.

Finally, as we’re seeing rental bats and relievers get shuttled all around the map, Sánchez has two arbitration years left after this one. Which plays into how the Marlins are getting three guys for him.

Gusto has made 14 starts and 10 relief appearances for the Astros this year. (Wow, the Astros really have had a lot of injuries this year, haven’t they?) The 26-year-old rookie with average fastball velocity has thrown seven different pitch types. He has a 4.92 ERA, which isn’t great, even in a home park where dingers come cheap, but he’s running a .331 opponent BABIP and doesn’t walk that many guys, so his FIP is down at 4.11.

Essentially, FIP thinks he’s an average pitcher, rather than a replacement-level one. He’s heading to a home park on the other end of the spectrum, so we’ll see what happens.

Valencia is a 19-year-old outfielder who has a promising swing but poor results — and by “results” I mean chase rates and contact rates that simply will not work for a 5-foot-10 guy with below-average speed and power. The realistic best-case scenario is a hit-over-power corner outfielder, but there’s so much runway for a player this young (he only graduated off the complex this year) that I wouldn’t give up on him just yet.

Jaworsky was an over-slot day two pick in 2023, a nailed-on future shortstop (or at least shortstop-capable utilityman) whom the Astros were hoping would fill out and hit well enough to get his legs and glove to the big leagues. Those hopes are, as yet, unfulfilled. Jaworsky is currently in High-A, where he’s striking out 21.6% of the time and slugging .359. Which looks suspiciously like he’s getting the bat knocked out of his hands and swinging and missing, which is a bad combination.

It’s not a great return, but Sánchez — a guy with massive platoon issues who’s about to get expensive in arbitration — is so much more valuable to the Astros than he is to the Marlins.

Finances notwithstanding, it’s way more than the Astros gave up to get Correa back. I had to go directly to James Fegan, who wrote our Astros top prospect list, to get a report on Mikulski, because he didn’t even make the unranked “Other Prospects of Note” section.

The Giants drafted Mikulski in the second round out of Fordham in 2021, when he was throwing in the upper 90s from the left side. His stuff has backed up considerably since then, leading to his release at the end of spring training this year. Even with his sinking velo, Mikulski hides the ball well enough to get big whiffs with his slider, but a violent delivery with major head whack has left him with absolute rock-bottom command. I don’t want to pile on Mikulski — he didn’t do anything but show up today — but he might be the least valuable player in the Astros system who can still be billed as a prospect.

In other words, this is a 26-year-old who’s walking a batter an inning in his third season in High-A. If the Twins can get something out of him, they deserve to win this trade.

As exciting as these moves are for the Astros, spare a thought for the Twins in all of this. Minnesota entered this season with a reasonable hope of winning the division, and while Joe Ryan and Byron Buxton survived deadline season, the Twins traded 11 big leaguers in the four days leading up to the deadline. I’m hardly the only person doing trade coverage at FanGraphs this week, and as I sit here on Thursday evening I do not know for sure how many Twins trades I’ve recapped in the past 21 hours. I think it’s three, but it might be more.

On balance, it makes sense to salary dump Correa. This all-in move hasn’t worked, and while I’m not board-certified in sports medicine, I do know that big guys with plantar fasciitis tend to have trouble running as they get further into their 30s. Unless the Astros hook up with Miracle Max, this is only trending in one direction.

But trading Correa, and getting less than nothing back for him, would sting the most if I were a Twins fan. For a couple years, they were playing in the deep end of the free agent pool. They had a bona fide free agent superstar to build around. Now, after three and two-thirds seasons and just one trip to the playoffs, ownership has decided to cut its losses on Correa before his 31st birthday.

A lot of the Twins’ other business this week was painful but reasonable: mostly outgoing free agents who were unlikely to be re-signed. The best player with any real team control remaining, Jhoan Duran, brought back some serious freight. And these trades didn’t just net far-off prospects, they bought low on talented guys like James Outman and Taj Bradley. You could talk yourself into things turning around quickly.

But ditching Correa like this isn’t a baseball trade. It’s an ownership group of second-generation skinflints settling up with a nine-figure creditor in preparation for selling the team.

Yes, seeing Correa’s contract out probably would’ve been throwing good money after bad. Yes, the Twins could find better ways to spend the $70.4 million they no longer owe him. But they just admitted defeat on the biggest free agent signing in franchise history. That’s a hard pill to swallow, no matter what the numbers say.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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mike sixelMember since 2016
11 months ago

Go ahead, tell me who the bullpen is ….

astususudilloMember since 2022
11 months ago
Reply to  mike sixel

Cole Sands and pray for rain.

NATS FanMember since 2018
11 months ago
Reply to  astususudillo

better than the Nats bullpen was before we traded two guys.

mike sixelMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

They literally have two guys in the bullpen……

mike sixelMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  mike sixel

That’s the number of guys who are actually MLB quality. It might be one.

Oh, Beepy.Member since 2024
11 months ago

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Last edited 11 months ago by Oh, Beepy.
sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  Oh, Beepy.

I thought Chorizo Joe sounded familiar, so I googled it and it is a real treat

Oh, Beepy.Member since 2024
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I sent one person to Make Some Noise then my ploy was successful

Oh, Beepy.Member since 2024
11 months ago

Mr. Baumann, several more Twins have hit the MLBTR

cashgod27Member since 2024
11 months ago

Assuming they don’t let the options vest (they probably wouldn’t on their own anyway) the Astros basically got Correa for 3/63, which is remarkably reasonable. Just have to wonder what happens next season when Paredes returns.

Gusto kind of feels like a steep price for Sanchez, but the Astros grow guys like him on trees.

And, most of all, fuck the Pohlads. What’s the point of this?

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  cashgod27

Funny, I was going to say I’m not sure why Miami made this move.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  96mnc

My read is they decided they wanted to take a look at Jakob Marsee and took the best offer available.

But unless they like Ryan Gusto a lot, I don’t see the point either. Surely someone offered more? Or maybe not? I suppose the Royals are kind of out of prospects.

carterMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  cashgod27

One of Pena or Correa likely moves to 2nd and then Altuve back to outfield? Not like he is good there exactly, but still. Doesn’t seem like a clean fit, but injuries happen etc

smb11488Member since 2018
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

Altuve isn’t good anywhere but he can still really hit. Definitely not a clean fit, I have a lot of questions about how Paredes would play at 2B, but they seem committed to Altuve in LF. He will DH a ton until Alvarez comes back this year with the Sanchez acquisition also.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  cashgod27

“Just have to wonder what happens next season when Paredes returns.”

Paredes or Correa to 2b.

carterMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  96mnc

Right. But that means Altuve in left. I mean it hasn’t been *horrible* so far. And lots of frequently hurt guys. So it probably works itself out

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

There’s definitely a roster logjam in 2026 as it stands right now. Maybe they move Sanchez again this offseason. But yes, Altuve in left seems like the only spot for him.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  96mnc

There’s a logjam if both Carlos Correa and Yordan Alvarez are healthy at the same time, which I think is possible but not something I would worry about.

I think Ramon Urias is probably gone, though. He was such an underrated pickup by the Astros, and he might not even have a roster spot right now much less next year.

TylerMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

With the injuries, Urías has a spot for now, Matthews can go back to AAA and he’s better than Short. Next year he probably has to earn a spot, but that’s a problem for then.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I love Urias as a bench guy. Dubon too. They provide some cover for the inevitable Correa injury regardless of the year.

I’ll admit I’m slightly concerned about Yordan’s wrist issues. His knees are a known quantity so his days of playing the field are done. I think Brown did these deadline moves knowing Yordan might be out for the rest of the year. Somewhat related, this is the second time in as many years that they’ve had a star get hurt and the training staff either hasn’t gotten the diagnosis right or the org hasn’t been up front about it.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

Yordan should never play the field again so LF has to be Altuve.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago

The only conclusion I can have about the direction of the Twins is that they are slashing payroll in advance of a future sale. It’s not like they’re getting a ton of future value back, it’s mostly salary relief and a couple of younger MLB arms who might be starters.

Maybe I was wrong to blame the front office for this. Maybe this is a mandate from ownership. But whoever is responsible for this debacle though deserves to get voted off the island.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

They are 100% slashing to sell. 100%. I’m mildly surprised they didn’t move Buxton too.

gallade3Member since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  96mnc

Buxton has a no-trade clause and appears unwilling to waive it.

mike sixelMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  gallade3

He might change his mind after this. I’d guess it depends on ownership change or not.

carterMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  gallade3

Buxton did not want to leave. Said he wouldn’t waive it. But I bet if you had went to him and were like we are going to trade everyone he might of changed his tune.

carterMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

If they didn’t do that, I also think it is sort of screwed up. Imagine him just sitting there being like “what?” I’m sure they told him “retool” rather than tear down. With that said, could always move in offseason. Also some people really like certain locations.

I can’t think of the pitcher, maybe Eduardo Rodriguez who a few years ago refused to go to a contender. He cited reasons like school, family, etc. Those are real reasons, and a lot of times as fans we cannot separate it from the player and the team. People have real life reasons to not want to move. Some people just want different things. Buxton is married and has 3 sons. Maybe his kids like their teachers, coaches, friends. He already has enough money, why uproot your life? It’s def possible that he is content. Which, good. That’s what we should all strive for. We look at numbers and contracts, but they are humans also. With that said I’d imagine if they had told him that ya we selling off he would have been ok w moving. But if he wasn’t, there is always valid reasons.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

It was Erod.

Last edited 11 months ago by 96mnc
sandwiches4everMember since 2019
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

Hear me out guys, cause it’s a crazy thought, but maybe, just maybe, different people have different motivations in life. I know, weird, right?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago

I wouldn’t want to move my wife and kids either if they were happy. Especially if I liked my coworkers and boss (although I imagine those are changing).

Last edited 11 months ago by sadtrombone
PC1970Member since 2024
11 months ago
Reply to  carter

It was E-Rod..& he initially agreed to go to LAD before changing his mind at the last minute, which left Detroit hanging (I know this for fact, I have friend that works in the Tigers business ops). This was the year after he missed 3 months with marital issues.

Not gonna cast aspersions on him, but, clearly there was something going on with him & his wife. Lots of drama & the sense was his wife put her foot down on the LAD trade at the last minute.

I don’t think Detroit was too sad to see him opt out & sign with Arizona.

Last edited 11 months ago by PC1970
PC1970Member since 2024
11 months ago
Reply to  PC1970

& BTW, if E-Rod was so concerned about his family & the effect of moving on them (which are TOTALLY legit reasons, BTW) & loved Detroit so much, he wouldn’t have opted out after year 2 of a 5 year deal & signed with Arizona that offseason.

Some definite mixed messaging going on.

mike sixelMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

That doesn’t explain varland?

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  mike sixel

That’s the Twins buying on Roden.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  96mnc

I like Roden, but not that much

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’m indifferent at the moment but plenty of analysts like him.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think you have to conclude that the fire sale is an ownership mandated decision. But the execution of the sale is looking pretty bad from my standpoint, so there’s plenty of blame to go around.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

I don’t like to blame the front office when ownership decides it’s time to hack apart the roster despite the long-term damage it will do.

But at the same time this looks like amateur hour. Like ownership told them to do it like a week ago and they didn’t have time to prepare.

Mr. PatientMember since 2016
11 months ago

They’re actually third-generation skinflints

GoodEnoughForMeMember since 2024
11 months ago

This is just depressing. The central is way more fun when every team is trying.

NATS FanMember since 2018
11 months ago

how often does that happen in any division?

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
11 months ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

Basically, the AL East at the start of this season is all I can think of (as bad as the O’s season has gotten, they were trying…)

warpath
11 months ago

This move just absolutely sucked as Twins fan. It saves money, but at this point I have no faith it will be re-invested in the team. I can at least somewhat defend almost all of the other deals today, but this one was brutal.

If you really wanted to move on from Correa, it makes more sense to me to let him play the season out and hope he rehabs his value a little bit so that you can get something, anything, in return. I get he has the NTC, but maybe he warms up to waiving it in the offseason if you explain the direction of the team to him.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  warpath

Don’t worry, it will improve the Pohlads’ cash proceeds when they sell the team. And that’s what this league is really all about.

fredsbankMember since 2020
11 months ago

Smells like this was just a long play by Houston to dodge the luxury tax on Correa.

warpath
11 months ago

Oof. This only gets worse. There are zero mentions of any baseball considerations here…

“The Astros told the Twins that they’d help them financially by taking Correa off their hands. The only catch is that they wanted the Twins to pay half of the remaining $103 million he is owed, and asked for an outfielder in return. The Twins hung up the phone, called the proposal laughable and figured that was the end of it.
Owner Jim Crane, knowing the Twins are more than $400 million in debt, took over. He called Twins chairman Joe Pohlad, and let him know that he could take a big financlal burden off his hand by moving Correa. In the meantime, Correa went to the front office and informed them that if they are selling, he’d gladly waive his no-trade clause for Houston. Crane and Pohlad talked, and talked, and talked some more. By the end of the day, the Twins agreed to send Correa to Houston, pay $33 million of his remaining contract and got only minor league lefty Matt Mikulsi in return.”

mike sixelMember since 2016
11 months ago
Reply to  warpath

Where did you see this reported?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  warpath

This is so bad.

What did the Twins do to go $400M in debt? These teams are basically printing money, it only makes sense if they were using the team as a piggy bank for other investments.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Medical bills, mostly

Jason BMember since 2017
11 months ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

They were all in on the Powerball once it got north of $1 billion

PC1970Member since 2024
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

No doubt, they’ve owned the team for 40 years or something, right? Unless it was some estate tax issue? THAT is possible.

I don’t think they paid to build Target Field.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
11 months ago
Reply to  warpath

Owner Jim Crane, knowing the Twins are more than $400 million in debt, took over. He called Twins chairman Joe Pohlad, and let him know that he could take a big financlal burden off his hand by moving Correa. In the meantime, Correa went to the front office and informed them that if they are selling, he’d gladly waive his no-trade clause for Houston.

I’m sure these two things happened completely independent of each other and there was no back-channel contact whatsoever.

strosfanMember since 2016
11 months ago

Thanks! A great post!

Columbo
11 months ago

The Twins thru the towel in, but the rotation potential is there. You still got:
P. Lopez
J.Ryan
B. Ober (maybe)
T. Bradley
SWR
Z. Matthews
D. Festa
M. Abel
C. Prielipp (on the way)
Culpepper (on the way)

The BP looks brutal. Will have to be rebuilt and be the focus in the off-season.

Offense will have to lean on:
Buxton
Jeffers
Lewis
Wallner
Lee
Keaschall
Julien
Roden
E. Rodriguez (at some point)
W. Jenkins (on the way)

The team wasn’t going anywhere this year, so lets get a look at some of these guys and go from there in the off-season.

warpath
11 months ago
Reply to  Columbo

I suspect some of the starting pitchers are either eventually converted to relievers or shopped around in the offseason to try to get some bats. Twins also have a couple lower tier starting prospects like Andrew Morris and Marco Raya at AAA already who could be in the mix.

Columbo
11 months ago
Reply to  warpath

Good point. I’m sure some of those starters will get converted.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  Columbo

I want to see Miranda for the next two months.

Columbo
11 months ago
Reply to  96mnc

Possibly, I left him out because of his recent struggles at AAA.

Jason BMember since 2017
11 months ago
Reply to  Columbo

Man, that offense sure isn’t going to scare anyone, especially if Buxton comes back down from his career year and/or changes back to the fragile glass creature he has been for the past five years*

*Already occurring, now on the IL

octopodesMember since 2025
11 months ago

Correction: Correa was not mostly healthy in 2023. He was playing through plantar fascitis (on the opposite foot of 2024) for most of the season.

motleycrue84Member since 2024
11 months ago

Am I the only one who thought that besides this trade the Twins had a great deadline?

I think they realized they weren’t very good with their current group and should regroup around a Brooks Lee/Lewis/Keaschall infield with Zebby Mathews, Ober, and Festa as their young controllable arms behind Ryan and Lopez.

The jury is out on this trade-I’m assuming Twins think Correa is injury prone and want to get ahead of that feeling they can’t have him and Buxton hurt on big $$.

But they crushed their other trades which fell into 2 categories:

Larger Trades for Backend Bullpen Guys:

  1. Eduardo Tait and Mick Abel for Jhoan Duran
  2. Taj Bradley for Griffin Jax
  3. Alan Roden and Kentre Rojas for Louis Varland and Ty France

Rentals/Stewart for Lottery Tickets:

  1. James Outman for Brock Stewart
  2. Ryan Gallagher and Sam Armstrong for Willi Castro
  3. Hendry Mendez and Geremi Villorna for Harrison Bader
  4. Enrique Jimenez for Chris Paddack and Randy Dobnak
  5. Garrett Horn for Danny Coloumbe

Any time you can trade the backend of your bullpen for young controllable starting pitching as a bad team, you do that. They also got Roden-who could easily be starting opening day next year in LF/RF, and Tait to potentially replace Garner the year after.

The lottery tickets are just gravy outside the Outman move-low probability that he turns it around, but big impact if he does-while I think that Stewart is sneaky valuable as a solid reliever with 3 more years of control.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  motleycrue84

Maybe, Varland for Roden / Rojas changes my mind a lot but I’m still trending towards “not a good deadline.”

After sleeping on it, I like Varland for Roden / Rojas a lot. They did a fantastic job with that trade, I think Rojas is probably a 50 for me. I think I must have thought the Blue Jays shipped Rojas off in an another deal.
(I think almost all of the biggest one-sided deals involved the Blue Jays trading pitchers this deadline)

I think Taj Bradly for Griffin Jax is very interesting to me, but I wouldn’t call it good or bad exactly.

But I think the Jhoan Duran deal was awful, really awful. Tait is so high risk and hasn’t been hitting like he was last year, and I think Abel is probably a middle reliever. The only way they couldn’t have gotten that next deadline is if Duran was hurt, and I think it’s quite possible they could have gotten more even then.

And then there’s the Correa deal, which is awful.

The little deals are also a mixed bag. I thought the Castro trade was probably fair / neutral. And I really like Garrett Horn.

But James Outman is broken, they could have done way better than that. I’m never going to understand how the Dodgers can convince other teams to give them useful players for ones like Outman. Hendry Mendez is a product of the offense-happy Phillies affiliates, he’s a DH with no power and Villoria is 16 years old.

Not a good deadline. But I think it’s really just the Duran deal that does it. I think they’ve simply misevaluated Abel, as well as the risk involved with Tait. It’s like if the Rangers offered Malcolm Moore (80 wRC+ in High-A, not a lock to stick at catcher) and Jack Leiter (4.78 xERA, projected to be about a 1 to 1.5 win pitcher by Depth Charts). Or if the Mariners offered Luke Stevenson and Logan Evans. Or if the Red Sox offered Andrew Musett and Richard Fitts.

Columbo
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Outman is probably a 4th OF type, good fielding and can pinch run. Kind of replaces what they thought Bader would be doing for them. He has an outside shot of a rebound. He does have 3.8 WAR in 783 PA and his stat line this year is on only 44 PA.
Stewart is 33, he has been hit up by lefties despite his overall line. I like him, but he’s kind of a ROOGY type.

Columbo
11 months ago
Reply to  Columbo

Bradley for Jax might end up being the best move of the day. Remember he’s just 24 and you got a SP for a 30 year old reliever. And, Falvey did previously pluck Joe Ryan from TB.

warpath
11 months ago
Reply to  Columbo

Yeah, I was kind of shocked by Jax for Bradley. It seems so out of character for TB that I wonder if they know something the rest of the league doesn’t about Bradley.

cm26Member since 2025
11 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

What was that line from Ben in the Miller deal article? Team control of relievers is fool’s gold?

I think you’re probably really low on both Tait and Abel, so yeah, you probably do think that even if Duran is pitching to a 4 ERA with 3.30 peripherals next deadline, the mediocre return they get then probably would be similar.

I think that’s probably pretty low on these 2 guys though

Abel has real stuff. I agree he’s probably a reliever but I’m not convinced it’s only in middle relief.

Tait is far enough away that all opinions are probably valid

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  cm26

I think Duran is a bit of an exception to the rule. He is so incredibly consistent.

There have been better relievers than Duran over the last few years, but Emmanuel Clase is the only one I can think of who is better and equally consistent (although ironically he’s now in serious jeopardy).

In any case, team control for relievers is overrated, but it’s still valuable.

warpath
11 months ago
Reply to  motleycrue84

I think I’m overall more mixed than solidly positive or negative. I kind of put the moves into different categories.

Chris Paddack, Ty France, Willi Castro, Harrison Bader, and Danny Coulombe were all likely to walk at season’s end – maybe Castro or Bader could have been retained and re-signed for the short term, but none of these guys were really in the long-term plans. Thus, anything the Twins got for them was gravy to me. We can quibble about what the returns actually were, but it was good business to thank them for their service and trade them in my book.

Griffin Jax and Jhoan Duran are in the next category – elite and relatively durable relievers with 2.5 years of increasingly expensive control. I thought it was wise to listen to offers on them and I fully expected at least 1 to be traded. I don’t hate the return for either, but if the Twins are planning to compete at all in the next 2.5 years (and I think they are since Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez are still around), I might have kept at least 1, or focused on getting a major-league ready bat in one of the deals.

Brock Stewart is an interesting one – also a good reliever with 2.5 years of team control, but cheaper, often injured, and getting long in the tooth. I struggled to conceptualize what his value might actually be, and if the best they could do was Outman, I probably would have just held onto him and let him close – maybe the value goes up and you can flip him later, or he’s the piece that actually gives the bullpen credibility.

This brings us to Varland, a good, young, cheap reliever who is under team control forever. Not to mention a homegrown local kid. I didn’t even have a thought in my mind that he would be traded. I actually don’t hate the return in a vacuum – Roden may actually be able to hit, and Rojas is a decent pitching by prospect. But I hate the move in the context of the gutting of the rest of the bullpen. Putting in my tinfoil hat, I see this move made in desperation after neither Duran nor Jax returned a major league ready bat.

Lastly, we have Correa. A straight salary dump. I have absolutely nothing good to say here as I have 0 faith this money will be re-invested in the team. This was purely financial to help sell the team, and just makes the team worse, full stop, and recovers 0 onfield value for Correa. I can squint and see the thought process for every other Twins move, but I got nothing for this one.

Columbo
11 months ago
Reply to  warpath

I think of all the relievers let go, they should have kept Duran. He’s just 27, and truly an elite closer. Jax and Stewart are both 30+
Yes, Varland is younger and controllable, but the return for him doesn’t look horrible. I think I would have taken that deal, too

warpath
11 months ago
Reply to  Columbo

Yeah, I think I would have kept 1-2 of the relievers. At a certain point, they were selling just to sell.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
11 months ago

I don’t know what the official 26-man roster looks like in Minnesota, but as of this writing there are only 17 player listed on the Roster Resource payroll page, and 18 on the depth chart.

Will they have to forfeit Friday’s game?

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TylerMember since 2016
11 months ago

Jesús Sánchez is a guy I cannot quit. His underlying numbers are always really good, and he always underperforms them. He’s doing a lot of good things this year: striking out less, walking more, chasing less, making more contact, pulling the ball more, putting it in the air more; none of it has made a huge difference.
I like him, I’m glad Houston got him, I was already overinvested and this won’t help…but maybe they can tweak something that puts it all together. Worst case, he’s an improvement on Chas, but maybe the universe will decide to prove me right.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  Tyler

I think Jesus is a good platoon guy while he’s cheap. If he continues to refine his game maybe there’s something more there. But it was a smart and timely acquisition for a 4th starter type.

Seuss2004Member since 2018
11 months ago

Me, a fan of starting pitching: “I think baseball teams should have at most 6 men in their bullpen”

Twins: “Okay.”

Me: “Wait not like that.”

Broken BatMember since 2020
11 months ago

Joe Espada of Astros is Manager of the Year. What a job he has done.

96mncMember since 2020
11 months ago
Reply to  Broken Bat

He’s underrated and so is Dana Brown.

Donnie
11 months ago

I love this headline!