Who Is the Interim Manager the White Sox Deserve?

On Thursday morning the White Sox sat at 28-89, recently having broken a 21-game losing streak. Which looks bad, but consider that Chicago is on pace to lose three more games than the 1962 Mets did. Or that over a comparable period — their last 117 games — the Vanderbilt Commodores football team is 40-77. (Vanderbilt’s past 117 games includes a winless season.) So the White Sox cashiered manager Pedro Grifol.
Yeah, that’ll fix the problem.
Immediately, thoughts turned to which unfortunate would be handed this hospital pass of a team. Especially because the traditional next man up for an in-season firing is the bench coach, and Charlie Montoyo (who has recent MLB managerial experience with the Blue Jays) was among the casualties.
As it turns out, the next skipper on this voyage of the damned, apparently, is Grady Sizemore.
Make no mistake, the 42-year-old Sizemore is woefully underqualified to manage a major league team. This is his first season on a big league staff, as sort of a minister-without-portfolio role titled “major league coach.” He got that job having worked full-time in baseball for only one season, which he spent as an intern under Diamondbacks GM Mike Hazen. Going from last year’s Diamondbacks to this year’s White Sox is quite an adjustment. At least we know Sizemore isn’t prone to whiplash.
But let’s be real. Chicago’s season being as dead as it is, there isn’t much Sizemore can do, for good or ill. He only needs to fill out a lineup card and do pre- and post-game media scrums with the beat writers. Sizemore might not have decades of coaching and front office experience, like some of the other 29 guys in similar jobs, but all he needs to do is get nine guys on the field for the last seven weeks of the season. And it’s not like he can do any worse than Grifol did.
Sizemore has another important asset: Name recognition. When he was announced as the interim manager, it took me a minute to think about how undercooked he is as a coach, because my first reaction was, “Oh, sweet, Grady Sizemore rules!”
If you know Sizemore’s name at all, you remember him as one of the best players in baseball in the mid-2000s, a thrilling five-tool center fielder for Cleveland who made three All-Star teams and accumulated 28.3 WAR by the end of his age-25 season. And Sizemore was one of those players to whom WAR didn’t do justice; he went 20/20 in each of his first four full major league seasons and scored a staggering 134 runs in 2006. He was cool as hell.
Then the injuries started to pile up. Sizemore was on track for the Hall of Fame with room to spare in 2008, but by 2010 he was basically done. He’s somewhere between the Millennial Vada Pinson and the Millennial Pete Reiser. I’ll let you decide.
As much as Rocco Baldelli, who is of a similar age with a similar career arc, has done a good job as manager of the Twins, Sizemore’s playing career is most relevant to his managerial tenure in one respect: The more time we spend talking about how good he was and YouTubing his career highlights, the easier it will be for the White Sox to run out the clock on this mortifying misadventure of a season.
I’m not saying it’s going to work. This might be a bit of a stretch as a comparison, but it reminds me of when Newcastle United tried to salvage their season by installing Alan Shearer as interim manager. Shearer had recently retired as the Premier League’s all-time leading scorer, having played for more than a decade for his boyhood club. He had no coaching experience or qualifications to speak of, but man, wouldn’t it be cool to see such a legend in the dugout again?
Shearer managed eight games, winning one, and Newcastle got relegated.
At least that can’t happen to Sizemore.
To be clear, I like this hire. It gives everyone a chance to remember how good a player Sizemore was, and — most importantly — whether he’s any good as a manager is entirely beside the point.
| Pace | Winning% | Final Wins | Final Losses |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current | .239 | 39 | 123 |
| .500 | .500 | 51 | 112 |
| Best Record in Baseball | .596 | 55 | 107 |
| 2001 Mariners | .716 | 60 | 102 |
| One Win a Week | .166 | 35 | 127 |
Sizemore could more than double this team’s winning percentage and the White Sox would still lose 110 games. Even if he transforms them into the 2001 Mariners overnight they’re still going to lose more than 100 games. This team is doomed, but at least this is more interesting than promoting Montoyo.
Nevertheless, one thinks about the road not traveled. Who else could’ve landed this job? Let’s consider the possibilities.
Let’s get Drake LaRoche out of the way. Those jokes were very funny for a while, not only because the original kerfuffle was so bizarre but also because it included players citing the then-14-year-old as a leader in the clubhouse. And then the younger LaRoche was even in the news this summer, as he pitched Birmingham-Southern to the verge of a Division III national championship as the school itself was going defunct.
But I think the Drake LaRoche-for-manager jokes have been beaten into the ground. Not unlike the White Sox themselves, now that I think of it.
Option no. 2 is the classic “Well let’s get that guy from TV!” move. As bad as things have been in Chicago, it’s not helping that two figures from the World Series-winning 2005 White Sox are in prominent media positions. For White Sox fans who can’t understand why their team turned into the laughingstock of the league, it must be maddening to turn on the TV and see Ozzie Guillen and A.J. Pierzynski articulating the very frustrations those fans must be feeling.
Bringing back Ozzie, or handing the reins to Pierzynski, might be cathartic, but I doubt it would be productive.
The final two options are similar, representing a well the White Sox have gone to repeatedly under Jerry Reinsdorf. Both would be ex-White Sox players; the first is of the Future Manager archetype I mentioned in my managerial taxonomy piece back in November. This is someone we’ve all seen in a White Sox uniform, ideally a light-hitting catcher or middle infielder with a big personality. So, maybe not literally Guillen, but someone like him and 15 or 20 years younger.
The other half of the ex-player (or, in some cases, ex-manager) category is what I like to call The One Who Got Away Hire. In 1982, the Phillies swapped shortstops with the Chicago Cubs — Larry Bowa for Ivan de Jesus — and threw a rookie second baseman into the deal to even things out. That second baseman, Ryne Sandberg, went on to a Hall of Fame career and left a psychic wound on the team and its fans.
Some 30 years later, the Phillies had a chance to make amends, and groomed the by-now-retired Sandberg for management. To make room for him, they fired Charlie Manuel, the most successful manager in the team’s history. Sandberg lasted 278 games, in which he finished 40 games under .500.
Joe Maddon wasn’t an ex-star player, but he was a longtime Angels coach before he left to manage the Rays and then the Cubs, during which time he won two pennants and a World Series and was largely considered to be the best and most forward-thinking manager in baseball.
So when the Angels had a chance to bring Maddon back, in 2020, they jumped at it. And Maddon rewarded their patience by finishing under .500 in each of the two and a half seasons he lasted in Orange County.
By now you know where this is going. This is the White Sox with Tony La Russa, the young manager who got them to the ALCS in 1983, but no further. He was fired in mid-1986, caught on with the A’s and later the Cardinals, and went on to win six pennants and three World Series before he retired in 2011. At the time of that retirement, he’d won more games than any manager except Connie Mack and John McGraw.
So the White Sox tried to roll back the clock in 2021, and by the standards of Sandberg and Maddon it was a huge success. At least the White Sox made the playoffs in Year 1 before the wheels fell off midway through Year 2. Paul Molitor’s Twins tenure is another example; Molitor played for the Twins at the end of his career, not the beginning, but the Hall of Famer is from St. Paul and played at the University of Minnesota, entitling Twins fans to similar feelings of bereftness as he played his best years in Milwaukee.
Let’s put names to these options for the White Sox. Who could be the next Ozzie Guillen, and who could be the next Tony La Russa?
To find the former, I went to the career games played leaderboard for the White Sox since 1990. I was going to joke about how Hall of Famer Ray Schalk, who caught for the White Sox for 18 seasons, would be perfect for this role if he hadn’t been dead for 54 years. But it turns out the White Sox actually did hire Schalk as a player-manager for two years at the end of his career. He went 102-125.
(A player-manager opens up all sorts of possibilities. The White Sox should bring back Tim Anderson and make him player-manager.)
But let’s wait for Anderson to actually retire first. Because there is no shortage of candidates.
| Name | Pos | Years | G | PA | wRC+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alexei Ramirez | SS | 2008-15 | 1,226 | 4,999 | 89 |
| A.J. Pierzynski | C | 2005-12 | 1,068 | 4,177 | 91 |
| Ron Karkovice | C | 1986-97 | 939 | 2,948 | 81 |
| Joe Crede | 3B | 2000-08 | 798 | 3,010 | 91 |
| Tyler Flowers | C | 2009-15 | 431 | 1,395 | 84 |
| Gordon Beckham | 2B/3B | 2009-15 | 839 | 3,134 | 82 |
| Tadahito Iguchi | 2B | 2005-07 | 363 | 1,586 | 99 |
| Scott Podsednik | OF | 2005-09 | 462 | 1,982 | 86 |
| Joey Cora | 2B | 1991-94 | 411 | 1,463 | 92 |
I bent the positional requirements a little, because Crede, despite playing third base, hit like a shortstop. And Podsednik is the most second baseman-coded left fielder of the 21st century. Pierzynski is obviously on this list, as is Gordon Beckham, who is probably the best offensive and temperamental comparison for Ozzie Guillen among the generation who followed. I have no idea what Ron Karkovice is up to.
Cora, on the other hand, is actually highly qualified to manage the White Sox, having spent the past 20 years on major league coaching staffs. He is the all-time major league hits leader among Cora brothers who played 10-plus seasons in the major leagues and spent exactly one season on A.J. Hinch’s coaching staff. And if the lesser Cora can win a World Series in his first season, the sky’s the limit for Joey.
But let’s end by taking a bigger swing. Who, apart from La Russa, is The One Who Got Away? A player who appeared for the White Sox only as an unfinished product but went on to superstardom with another team?
I don’t have the kind of intimate knowledge of White Sox minutiae to answer that question off the top of my head, so I went to Twitter. Not exactly a reliable source for information these days, but that’s where angry and depressed people spend their days ranting, and I figure any sufficiently large population of angry and depressed people is going to be full of White Sox fans.
And they delivered. Not only that, they quickly formed a consensus. I was able to draw two conclusions for their answers.
First: If Reinsdorf lives long enough, Marcus Semien is absolutely, 100% going to manage the White Sox after he retires.
Second: The man to lead the White Sox through this trough, the one who can heal a psychic wound with one pitching change, The One Who Got Away, is Sammy Sosa.
I say it’s worth a shot.
Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.


This is way too harsh on Grady Sizemore. In a league where TV analysts get tapped as managers as well as ex-players with nebulous “special assistant to the general manager” titles this doesn’t even register as being odd.
In this target-rich environment why would anyone think that making fun of Grady Sizemore is worth a couple of paragraphs?
It’s not an insult, lol. Sizemore getting whiplashed around from multiple positions to suddenly becoming the interim manager of the worst team in baseball is worth a few chuckles.
I must have missed the paragraphs making fun of him? Is it the whiplash line? Aside from that, Mike was just summarizing his resume and experience, which is…thin. Better than Jeff Saturday to be sure. But atypical.
Actually I would not have put it past Jerry to hire Jeff Saturday.
The whole thing about being “unqualified”. You and I would be unqualified. Sizemore being manager is totally fine. It’s managing a baseball team, not brain surgery. AJ Hinch, Aaron Boone, Craig Counsell, and Scott Servais are a mixed bag, but so are the guys with actual coaching experience.
“Underqualified” is not the same thing as “unqualified”. “Underqualified” is “lacking the on-paper experience that would make them a typically attractive candidate”. “Unqualified” is “tf is this guy doing here?”
The former is the term Baumann used.
Yep, according to ctrl+f, the word “unqualified” does not appear in the article.
Well, Sizemore just intentionally walked Soto *in order to pitch to Aaron Judge*, so maybe it should.
No need to comment on everything my guy. My advice would be to think about if you have something interesting to say first.
I will not stand for Sadtrombone slander!
He often has something interesting to say! This was not one of those times!
I think you have to consider the author in this instance. Unless it’s about the Phillies, the world is a joke for this person.
This is why I don’t usually click on Baumann’s articles. I’m not sure why I did this time, because almost *every single time* I grind my teeth reading it. This style of writing is definitely not something I enjoy.
Next time maybe just skip it if it causes such consternation. You’ve usually got good, cogent comments, but your weird Baumann hang-ups caused you to miss the boat by a country mile here
To each his own. I’m just chiming in to note that I almost always read anything with a Baumann byline. His whimsical style appeals to me.
Right. I love his style and it’s a nice change of pace for this site.
Totally agree. No disrespect to the author nor audience, but it’s not for me.
It’s interesting for me to find out what other people prefer or have as habits – Mssrs. Baumann and Jaffe are the only ones I reliably read here now. I can count on you to comment on most articles (not a criticism). Bosox invariably chimes in when it’s Boston- or history-related. Jason B. seems like me to an extent; a cynic who finds humor everywhere. Various other personalities I’ve come to “know” here through their interactions have their quirks. We don’t have to like them all, but they are part of this community we call Fangraphs. Sometimes it’s just better to sit back and feel superior than call someone out.
He spends more time on the titles than he does the content and he is definitely a post-truth individual somewhere on the spectrum of post-structuralist. There are too many of him creating content all over the accursed internet.
“Post-structuralist”? Really?
Is a post-structuralist someone who builds fences?
Harold Baines
*slow clap*
In any case I fully expect to see Jose Abreu or Tim Anderson or someone who is even less qualified than Sizemore out there next season. Mercifully as a manager and not a player-manager. Or Mike Matheny,
You know d*** well it’s going to be Don Cooper somehow
Maybe even try giving Herm Schneider a call.
Manny Ramirez or Michael Jordan
Michael Jordan would be hilarious and fit the theme of “hire the famous person who is the worst possible choice”. He drove the Wizards and Hornets into the ground!
Well, Jordan did actually play for the franchise once…
Not the point here, but I would love a ZIPS time warp for Grady Sizemore, just to see where he winds up if he stays healthy post 2008. <begins searching FG to see if such a post exists>
ZiPS Time Warp: The Montreal Expos and the Bartolo Colon Trade | FanGraphs Baseball
Includes Sizemore, Brandon Phillips, and Cliff Lee.
His career is so sad. Around 2007 or so I was sure he was going to be a Hall of Famer. He had 28.3 fWAR in 3109 PA through age 25. Then his body fell apart and he had 1.4 fWAR in 1615 PA over the next 7 years.
Heck, maybe they hired Grady because he’s good looking & Reinsdorf figures that’ll get some of “Grady’s Ladies” to the ballpark.
Dude has not aged since like 2010, it’s unreal.
You should see the picture he keeps in the closet.
That guy makes such great tea. >_>
The number of young women one would see at Jacobs Field in the 2000s wearing replica jerseys with “Mrs. Sizemore” across the back was notable, for sure.
First of all, Gordon Beckham is the perfect Hype Beast who Never Delivered to be pumped up as a future manager. Cue the stories (true or not) about how he was a cerebral player who’s baseball smarts allowed him to play up limited physical tools until MLB proved to be one level too far.
But I adore that Marcus Stroman idea. In fact, given his current trajectory as a player, the idea that the ChiSox could trade a real prospect to the NYYs specifically to bring on Marcus Stroman as a player/manager is so Jerry Reinsdorf I can’t believe that it hasn’t already happened.
Marcus Stroman would definitely be an interesting hire, but Baumann’s idea was Marcus Semien.
Ha! Reading is fundamental…
Gordon Beckham was the Ke’Bryan Hayes of his generation, the dude analysts just would not accept wouldn’t be a star.
Was he also the worst MLB regular hitter against RHP in all of baseball?
Beckham was a top-ten draft pick who put up two wins as a rookie and never broke 1.1 after that, it’s a little different from a comp round guy having his first below-average season.
Beckham has been a fill-in on Sox broadcasts over the past few years, so he actually checks the A.J./Ozzie broadcaster boxes as well. While it may have been a half-serious suggestion from Mr. Baumann, knowing Reinsdorf’s tendencies, Beckham may actually be closer to becoming the next Sox manager than you think.
yeah i hadn’t thought of it before but beckham ticks all of jerry’s boxes, right down to looking like getz basically
I think he would say no, but if the White Sox want an outside, young, analytically minded candidate that matches how they seem to be trying to build (lefties who throw hard at the top of the zone – Crochet, Schultz, Smith) I would look at Sean Doolittle.
Doolittle would do the motivational tactic from the movie Major League, but Doolittle’s version would be removing one book from a summer reading list he has assigned the players every time they win a game.
Plus the “Sean Doolittle does little” headlines practically write themselves!
The better question is “who is the manager who deserves the White Sox.” Outside of a few unremorseful war criminals, I can’t think of anybody.
“unremorseful war criminals” sounds like a band name
Sheikh Hassina just became a “free agent” out of Bangledesh after being ousted on the 5th, so she’s available. The criminal record might make it a PR disaster, though.
Not a problem. The White Sox are experts at ignoring PR disasters.
Right! They could punish Mike Clevinger for his s***iness by promoting him to manager?
The Fun Loving War Criminals.
War Criminals on Holiday
They already tried La Russa /cardshater
Angel Hernandez.
This would be priceless if only for that moment when he inevitably loses it (more than normal) and ejects everybody in the stadium.
Jonathan Erlichman, though I love Grady Sizemore and think he could hold the title at any level of their hierarchy. The bar is that low. What an embarrassing baseball club.
I think the Sox can go even “bigger” with The Big Hurt. Personally, I’d love to see it. At least he knows when it’s “time to snap”! And as a player manager, he could probably still be an improvement to their offense
Is Nugenix a banned substance? Maybe he could bring in Doug Flutie as pitching coach.
Everyone’s locker comes well-stocked with testosterone supplements!
Grady Sizemore was my first round pick in 2009, continuing my bizarre streak of first rounders who either fell apart or had out of nowhere lows in the middle of their prime in the era (Soriano 2004, Beltran 2005, Miggy 2008, could throw Teixiera 2006 in there as well, could also add Piazza 2003 but that was injury more than anything). As an added bummer my second round pick in 09 was David Wright. It was a very bad omen to be drafted highly by me in that era.
Although the Sox have pretty much excluded Sizemore from consideration for the permanent job, it’s not like it’s an uncommon occurrence for a manager to be hired with even less coaching experience than Sizemore. Scott Servais, Craig Counsell, Mike Matheny, Aaron Boone, AJ Hinch, Buck Martinez, Brad Ausmus, Robin Ventura, … probably a few others. Not to say that list is full of successes, but you’d be hard-pressed to find any set of qualifications that leads to a good-looking list of managers.
The answer to your “one who got away” question is probably Mike Cameron. 90% of his 50+ fWAR after the White Sox traded him for Paul Konerko. He’s only 51 and less unqualified than many recent White Sox managers. Based on his Twitter profile, I think he is working in player development for the Mariners.
I’d nominate Fernando Tatis Jr. for the “one that got away” award, but I guess he’s not available at the moment.
He may be..but, Konerko was dang good for the White Sox himself.
Obviously, Cameron has more WAR, but, I’ll bet if you asked not analytically inclined White Sox fans, they’d say Chicago won that trade.
That’s the problem with White Sox fans. Slightly above average first basemen are a lot harder to find than great centerfielders.
Although, from a certain point of view, those meatballs are not wrong. It is hard to say Cincinnati won the trade because they only got 1 year of Cameron. Even if you count spinning Cameron into Ken Griffey Jr, they only got one good year out of Griffey and the rest was not as good as what Konerko gave the White Sox.
Michael Jordan (yes, that Michael Jordan).
It’s funny because this is basically exactly how the White Sox operate. From Ozzie to Robin Ventura to La Russa – hell even Getz as GM.
That being said – give me a Juan Uribe managerial stint!
Sosa belonged to the Rangers before the Sox, which makes him the perfect guy to be the first double manager.
He was acquired for Harold Baines.
Draft 2025 day.
Sixth pick comes up.
The Chisox (who else?) pick you.
Knowing how that org works, what do you do?
Easy choice for a high schooler or college Sophomore, but what about Juniors?
Would you trust them with your career?
They can’t get better than the 10th pick despite this horrific year– they can’t be in the lottery consecutive years, and non-lottery teams can’t pick higher than #10.
Anyways, their first round draft picks in the past few years have actually been doing surprisingly well. Took Crochet a bit but his long-term future is pretty bright if he stays healthy. Schultz and Montgomery were picked around #20 outta local high schools, and are both top-30ish global prospects, though Montgomery’s having a tough year in AAA.
They were good the past few years (21-22).
No caution required.
The implosion was last year and this and likely next.
But not only are the Chisox hurting, the rest of the division is improving at the same time. They could get 30 games better and still end up last.
Even ’26 is looking iffy.
They may avoid losing 120 but 110 is looking likely, as pointed out above. Getting from 50 wins to 90 isn’t likely to happen in two years, even with a competent FO. It’s not just Cleveland and Minnesotta like last year. They have to get past KC and Detroit, too.
There are a few candidates for the ex-player category that I think bear merit.
Venezuela didn’t used to be a poor country
Past tense.
How it came to pass is a whole story but off-topic.
And the story ain’t done. A lot of blood will flow before it is.
Ehh, idk about that. It’s historically been a very poor country by GDP per capita or other measures. Under Chavez it actually rose very significantly— until he died and Maduro took over and it collapsed again.
Maduro was Chavez’s hand-picked successor and is just Chavez but less economically savvy and charismatic.
Which is saying something, economically speaking.
I’ll limit the analysis to saying that certain politicians and regimes see money as a political tool rather than an economic one. Historically it never ends well.
Ballplayers understand the difference and act accordingly.
As of 2005 Venezuela was third richest in latin america after Mexico and Brazil, 42nd globally. Now it is 135th out of 195, only Haiti is worse off today in the region. a bigger history lesson for the ages than even argentina.
(Under Chavez the surface numbers improved for three years but only because they were printing money non-stop to provide largesse. He died before the bat guano hit the fan.)
What hasn’t changed is their ballplayer pipeline. They still crank ’em out regularly. If anything, the incentive to improve has gone way up.
Lifelong Chicagoan (and Cubs, not Sox, fan) and don’t usually comment, but how did I just read this (I read everything Baumann writes, even his pseudonymous SEC baseball fanfic) and 73 comments and no one mentions Steve Stone. I mean, he pretty much gave up after the Cubs didn’t want to promote him from the booth to GM and moved down Lake Shore Drive, but that’s a quintessential Reinsdorf hire right there.
And the first game is in: Sizemore said they’d play with different energy and he delivered.
14 Hits. Even two homers from Bennintendi. Six runs.
Still lost as Crochet got ripped by the Cubs for 4 homers and 7 runs in 2 innings.
The hole got a wee bit deeper.
Who could be the next Tony LaRussa for the Sox? Why, it’s….Tony LaRussa! He’s the guy they deserve.
Just kidding. It should actually be Harold Baines.