With Kenley Jansen’s Struggles, the Dodgers Have a Closer Crisis

By blowing out the Padres to sweep the Division Series and advance to the National League Championship Series against the Braves, the Dodgers were able to skirt the matter, but by now it’s apparent that for as strong as they have looked thus far in the postseason, they have a closer problem. Manager Dave Roberts has spent the past four weeks limiting Kenley Jansen’s exposure, even in save situations, and in Game 2 of the series, had to go so far as to pull the 33-year-old three-time All-Star because things were getting out of hand; in the end, the Dodgers barely escaped that game with a 6-5 victory. Because he had pitched two days in a row, Jansen was deemed unavailable for Game 3, but even with a vote of confidence, the question of how much longer he’ll be the automatic choice to shut the door will linger.

In the grand scheme, Jansen is an incredible success story, a Curaçao-born converted catcher who spent his first eight major league seasons utterly dominating hitters; for the 2010-17 span, he struck out 40.1%, walked 6.8%, and posted a 2.08 ERA and 1.84 FIP, numbers that put him on the same tier as Aroldis Chapman, Craig Kimbrel and nobody else as far as sustained success for the period. His recent seasons have been rocky, however. In 2018, he posted career worsts in ERA and FIP (3.01 and 4.03) in a season interrupted by a bout of atrial fibrillation and then issues finding the right level of medication; in late November, he underwent an ablation procedure. In 2019, as his velocity continued to wane, he set new career worsts with a 3.71 ERA and eight blown saves, three more than he had in the previous two seasons combined.

Jansen reported late to summer camp due to a positive test for COVID-19, but was ready in time to start the season, and in fact pitched well into early September. In his first 17 innings, he posted a 1.04 ERA and 3.01 FIP, with a 35.8% strikeout rate — higher than it had been since 2017 — while converting 10 out of 11 save chances. Then came an unsettling pair of outings. On September 8 against the Diamondbacks, he entered with two outs in the ninth inning of a tie game, escaped via a weird stolen base-error-baserunning blunder sequence by Tim Locastro, and after the Dodgers scored four runs in the top of the 10th, gave three back in the bottom of the inning before getting the final out.

Four days later, Jansen came in to protect a 5-2 lead in the ninth against the Astros, in what was something of a statement game, as the two 2017 World Series participants hadn’t met at Dodger Stadium since Houston’s sign-stealing scandal had come to light. Jansen gave up six straight hits and five runs, departing without retiring a single hitter. While he pitched a scoreless inning against the Astros the next night, closing out a seven-run game, and didn’t allow a run in his remaining six outings, he got just one save chance in that span, the same number as Pedro Báez and Adam Kolarek, with Blake Treinen getting called upon in the ninth inning of a tie game at home, typical Jansen territory (h/t J.P Hoornstra of the Orange County Register for pointing this out).

Here’s what Jansen’s rolling averages for cutter velocity and FIP look like; the trends show up at a more granular level as well, but I used a nine-game rolling average based on the fact that he made 27 appearances in 2020:

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Jansen’s cutter velocity has been trending downwards, and while he’s hit rough patches before, and has found effectiveness at times even amid those dips, falling below 90 mph has been another matter. Meanwhile, he’s been hit harder lately:

That’s basically a tale of two seasons, with a consistent climb that began on September 8, the night of the Diamondbacks debacle. Here it’s worth pointing out that Jansen has become less cutter-reliant in recent seasons, mixing in his slider and sinker with increasing frequency. Sticking with Statcast classifications:

Those pitches have helped to mask the decline of his cutter; while batters produced a .298 xwOBA against it this year, his fastball (.224) and slider (.165) were more effective, and the trends have held in recent seasons:

As The Athletic’s Pedro Moura summarized regarding the fastball, “While he throws it with a two-seam grip, it behaves more like most pitchers’ four-seam. The pitch helps in two ways: It’s faster than his diminished cutter, and its lack of late movement augments the cutter’s in contrast.” Statcast classifies the pitch as a sinker.

Anyway, despite his late-season woes, Jansen finished with outstanding Statcast numbers, most of which were either his best of the period or at least since 2017:

Kenley Jansen Statcast Profile
Year Barrel% EV LA xAVG xSLG wOBA xwOBA
2015 8.2 87.0 22.8 .155 .284 .225 .214
2016 5.2 86.4 22.8 .148 .244 .192 .196
2017 4.3 84.2 17.1 .172 .269 .207 .207
2018 7.4 84.3 19.0 .204 .355 .273 .270
2019 6.1 86.4 19.3 .209 .350 .277 .268
2020 3.5 82.7 22.2 .190 .285 .275 .255
SOURCE: Baseball Savant

In the more traditional realm, Jansen’s 32.4% strikeout rate was his best since 2017, as was his 0.74 homers per nine; he was at 29.3% and 1.47 per nine in those two stats for the 2018-19 span. But oh, those bases on balls: from a 6.0% rate in those two seasons, he’s walked 8.8% this year, and so the overall result has been more traffic on the bases; turning to that old fantasy staple, his 1.15 WHIP was the worst mark of his career, well above his 2018-19 mark of 1.02, even with the improved suppression of hard contact.

Roberts called upon Jansen to close out the Wild Card Series opener against the Brewers, which Jansen did despite issuing a two-out, four-pitch walk to Jace Peterson that brought Christian Yelich to the plate with the game-tying run; he struck out the former MVP in a tense five-pitch battle while Brusdar Graterol warmed up:

Jansen’s cutter plummeted as low as 86 mph against Yelich, and its average for the outing was 88.1 mph, his lowest mark of the season. Per the Orange County Register’s Bill Plunkeett, Roberts said, “It just didn’t seem like the stuff had the teeth that I’ve seen in recent outings… I just didn’t think that the cutter – there were a couple throws that had the life but it just didn’t have the life in the zone. The breaking ball was cast more than I’ve seen it.”

Roberts said he would review the outing on video, after which he reversed course somewhat, saying, “I thought it was much better than I expected or than I thought,” though he made an exception for the Peterson walk and the velocity dip. “̌I just saw the 86 and I just didn’t know if Kenley was OK,” he said. “You don’t want things to spiral out. You want to have protection. It’s just making sure that you cover your bases.”

Though Roberts assured his audience that Jansen remained his closer, it was Graterol he called upon to protect a three-run lead and close out the series in Game 2. In the Division Series opener against the Padres, Treinen, who had stranded an inherited runner on second while getting all three outs of the eighth inning, stuck around to retire Tommy Pham to start the ninth before yielding to Jansen in a non-save situation, with a four-run lead — a curious choice, but one that went off without a hitch.

His Game 2 appearance not so much, even after beginning by striking out Wil Myers on three pitches. Jansen then lost an 11-pitch battle to Jake Cronenworth, who singled on an 88.8 mph cutter high in the zone, and concluded a six-pitch encounter with Mitch Moreland by yielding a ringing RBI double; his 88.3 mph cutter was mashed at 104.9 mph. Austin Nola fouled out on another low-velo cutter (88.2 mph), but after Trent Grisham finished his six-pitch at-bat with an RBI single on a center-cut 90.1 mph cutter, Roberts had seen enough.

That the Dodgers’ skipper bypassed the opportunity to go to lefty Jake McGee — who, curiously, has yet to make a single postseason appearance — for the lefty-swinging Grisham raised some eyebrows, though even amid the ex-Rockie’s resurgence with the Dodgers, he’s had small-sample trouble with same-side hitters (.362 wOBA allowed in 24 PA). If the basis of that decision was along those lines, however, the data was no more favorable with regards to his choice of Joe Kelly to replace Jansen against Fernando Tatis Jr., with Manny Machado looming (25 PA, .352 wOBA, with seven walks and five strikeouts). Kelly induced Tatis to foul one off, but couldn’t get him to offer at any of his next five pitches, and ended up issuing a walk. While he got ahead of Machado 1-2, likewise he walked him on eight pitches to load the bases. Kelly finally got Eric Hosmer to ground out, but only after Dodgers fans had chewed their fingernails raw.

Afterwards, Roberts was more noncommittal about Jansen’s status. Via the Los Angeles Times‘ Mike DiGiovanna:

“Um … I think right now, certainly, leverage matters,” Roberts said before Game 3. “I think I’m going to continue to watch the game, to talk to the pitching coaches, to talk to Kenley. I’m not gonna make that decision yet.”

…“I don’t know the reason,” Roberts said, when asked if Jansen has any physical problems. “Watching video [from Wednesday night], there were some 93s mixed in with some 89s. I think more than anything, it’s the fluctuation of velocity and lack of consistency.

“We’re still digging in on it. With Kenley, regardless of velocity, when he’s executing and making quality pitches, he’s as good as anyone. But when you’re not executing and missing to the big part of the plate, then you’re not as good, and that’s something we’re constantly trying to figure out.”

Roberts didn’t have to navigate a save situation in Game 3, though he — and, to be fair, the front office above him — found a different way to induce head-scratching and second-guessing by using Dustin May as an opener, followed by Kolarek. With two outs in the second inning and the bases loaded, Julio Urías arrived to face Tatis, an encounter the team’s plan appeared designed to avoid at least once. Urías rose to the occasion by striking him out and cruising for five innings while the Dodgers pummeled the Padres into submission.

(Allow me to pause here to pour out a Ballast Point Sculpin IPA in honor of the Padres, whose bat flips and general joie de vivre have helped to brighten this miserable year.)

By sweeping the Padres, the Dodgers have bought themselves a three-day weekend to figure out what comes next. Their bullpen might be as deep as it’s been during Roberts’ run as manager, but Takashi Saito ain’t walking through that door to replace the ailing Eric Gagne. Treinen and McGee, both of whom rebounded from sub-replacement seasons elsewhere, have a fair bit of experience closing games, while Graterol, Báez, Kelly, and Kolarek have only a smattering of saves. All of them have built-in reasons for not being elevated into the full-time role, whether it’s because they don’t miss enough bats, have significant platoon splits, or sometimes can’t find the plate.

More likely than anointing anyone as Jansen’s replacement, if that’s necessary, is Roberts taking a matchup-based approach, which isn’t to say those choices will sit easily with Dodgers fans as they ride the postseason rollercoaster. Jansen — who reportedly remains upbeat — could certainly figure into that mix, but as has been the case over the past four weeks, he may not be the automatic choice that he once was. It’s an uncomfortable reality to confront, but if the Dodgers are to win the World Series for the first time since 1988, it’s an unavoidable one.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

I think it’s totally reasonable that the guy who had heart surgery and COVID is going to experience some uneven levels of performance. That’s not much consolation for Dodgers fans today, but hopefully the guy will come back rested and healthy.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah. You can see Roberts trying to use him in situations that “protect” him (with a 3 R lead, not in a high lvg situation, etc.), but all the rhetoric is to provide both Roberts and Jansen a way of saying, “We’re gonna take this day by day” without humiliating a guy who’s been in the org for his entire adult life. The story of Justin Turner talking him out of following Mattingly to MIA at his wedding is such a part of that team; no one wants to say it out loud, and I don’t think they’ll have to.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago

I mentioned this below, but i think it’s worth looking at certain tidbits like Kershaw saying yesterday that Kenley will do whatever it takes to win: I suspect that what Roberts wants is for Kenley’s transition out of that role to be consensual and not forced by the org, and that Kershaw, Turner and the others have been or are having those conversations with him now. They’ve built this huge culture of putting winning before personal interests, and so with so many players on the team having already done so it kind of creates an environment that ensures Kenley will do the same thing.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Agreed–Kenley and Kershaw know they’ve earned it, and they know they don’t have to do it by themselves, so I don’t think it’s gonna be an ego thing (because of the culture you describe)

ChadTMember since 2017
5 years ago

Game 2 kind of worked out perfectly for Roberts in the sense that he could use Graterol to face the top half of the lineup, and then let Jansen pitch the ninth for the save against the bottom half.

I wonder what would’ve happened if Barnes had been able to catch the foul tip for strike three against Cronenworth, or the liner back to Jansen had landed in the glove instead of glancing off of it. Jansen might’ve gotten out clean and we wouldn’t be having as many conversations about it.

Of course, these things might end up being a blessing for Roberts if it forces him to reckon more fully with Kenley’s struggles…

drew_willyMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  ChadT

The difference in velo, whiffs, hard contact (and, if I am not mistaken, movement) ought still to force these conversations – “the process”, so to speak, is bad, even if the results end up palatable.

playingrf
5 years ago

I like the Saito allusion, but as long they get ’09 Jonathan Broxton levels of performance from the back end guys they’ll be fine.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  playingrf

This made me think: what’s Jesse Orosco up to? He was the ONLY guy who could get to Bonds, even in the video game years!

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  playingrf

Maybe this is the K-Rodesque rise of Brusdar Graterol?

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

I love Brusdar but he’s not ready for high leverage, he’s currently sort of where Dustin May has been where he has enormous velocity but doesn’t strike anyone out with it (he had a 14.8% K rate this year).

They clearly have some ideas how to address that kind of thing, and discussed earlier in the year working with May to improve the strikeouts, and recently his K rates have indeed risen. I expect they’ll do the same for Graterol (who has a very similar fastball, they are #1/#2 in all MLB in average FB velocity), but it hasn’t happened yet.

Graterol pitching high leverage to Tatis was the first time he’s been used in anything resembling that role all season, and not withstanding that Cody Bellinger is a superhero, it was clearly a mistake.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Given that he changed orgs, had no real ST or org time, and his age, it’s kind of amazing that Graterol is making meaningful outs in the playoffs for a 1 seed. Yeah, he’s got more to do, as does May, but wouldn’t you rather *start* with guys who, already, are amazing? I’m more bullish on the future pen than others (though I still think the Kelly signing was foolish on its face and will go down as his most avoidable mistake)

drew_willyMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Do those hard-throwing guys need to be creating Ks when the contact they allow so often is on the ground?

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  drew_willy

Yes, Ks are the most reliable way to get people out because they can’t result in errors or dribble through for cheap hits because they’re in exactly the wrong spot

This is why they’re the greatest predictor of future pitching performance.

A 15% K rate is not what you want in a pitcher who is going to be pitching with men on base.

There are good ground-ball oriented relievers out there, like Britton and Treinen. They strike out 20% of batters instead of 30-40%.

Graterol struck out 11%.

That’s not a viable number in a high leverage pitcher; that many balls in play is too many opportunities for your opponent to get lucky.

May had a similar effect going on (though a starter is going to overall pitch less with men on, because he won’t be brought directly into multiple guys on base situations), and they’ve worked with him to increase the swinging strike rate. I’m sure they’ll do the same for Brusdar. He’s got very similar stuff.

But what he did this year is not viable in high leverage.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Stop trying to confuse me with the facts. I want more Brusdar.

stever20Member since 2017
5 years ago

If Jansen costs them a title this year- after him costing them in 2017 for sure and quite possibly 2019- wow- such a great run killed by the closer.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I dont know that it’s really fair at all to blame Jansen for 2017. He was absolutely elite that year – it’s one of the best modern relief seasons – and he was fantastic in the playoffs except for exactly one game, which was early in the series (WS Game 2). The real tragedy is that the Darvish situation happened in a series where a bunch of the old guard Dodgers really did perform at a high level: WS G5 gets a lot of attention for Kershaw, but he was lights-out in his other two appearances in G1 and G7 (11 IP, 1 R, 14 K). If Yu Darvish doesn’t have two of the worst games in WS history, a lot of players’ personal narratives are pretty different.

jamesdakrnMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

And for game 2, I still think Roberts pulled Hill a bit too early – could’ve gone maybe 1 more inning, to lessen the load for the bullpen (Morrow pitched almost every game that postseason) and having Kenley to get like 4 outs instead of 6 could’ve changed it.

Hell, if nothing changes but this, we’d remember the series differently: https://gfycat.com/disguisedembellisheddeermouse-los-angeles-dodgers-houston-astros

(Seriously that one still haunts me)

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  jamesdakrn

Yeah I thought that was a HR off the bat at the time

IMO I have very little criticism for Roberts’ pitching choices prior to 2019. They pulled Hill early consistently, and there were some decent reasons for that: the Astros’ lineup was (and still is) predominantly right-handed, and there’s very, very few left-handed pitchers who can face them a 3rd time and come out ahead. The ’17 Astros had one of the best offenses in MLB history, and leaving a pitcher in too long was much more likely to backfire than taking one out too early against them.

Really, I look at that series like this:

It had 2 of the craziest, most insane, back-and-forth world series games in history, where both teams had at different times very, very high win probabilities. The Astros managed to win -both- of those games.

They played 2 games where Yu Darvish started and got absolutely torched and were more or less over in the 3rd inning. The Astros won both of those games.

They played 3 relatively normal, conventional baseball games without crazy shit going on in them. The Dodgers won all 3 (Games 1, 4 and 6).

jamesdakrnMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Game to game, you can certainly see the case for how Roberts used his bullpen.

I do NOT like however, over-relying on guys like Morrow in a low leverage situation he did earlier in the NLCS. Mileage adds up, felt like there were cases where he didn’t have to put Morrow in every game in the NLCS.

I don’t htink 2017 was egregious.

2018 however, there was one case of an unacceptable miscommunication w/ Hill in game 4
https://sports.yahoo.com/dave-roberts-explains-never-intended-pull-rich-hill-world-series-212245705.html

That is honestly…not a good look.

And of course, 2019 just.. baffling. Baffling. Baffling.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  jamesdakrn

The miscommunication with Hill was bad but I thought removing him in that situation intentionally was justifiable and consistent w/ previous decisions (like 17), which is why it happened in the first place, as Rich saw it the same way. And honestly was a defensible decision that could not have anticipated that Literally Every Reliever who followed would be bad.

drew_willyMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Jansen sure was not fantastic in 2017 WS G5.

stever20Member since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  drew_willy

yeah for sure. yeah gives up game winning run in the 10th inning. So 2 games he lost in that series.

And he’s never recovered.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  stever20

I don’t think losing a game (even a big game…even the BIGGEST game, perhaps) is weighing on his psyche three years after the fact, although that makes for a colorful narrative. Much more a function of aging and injuries – the usual mundane factors that eventually defeat us all.

Fernando
5 years ago
Reply to  stever20

Cheating cost the Dodgers in 2017, not Kenley.

patagent
5 years ago

Taking Kenley out of the closer role and high leverage situations is no brainer. The real tough question is whether is he should make the playoff roster moving forward.

tung_twista
5 years ago

Looking at what is happening to guys like Kimbrel and Jansen is so disappointing and I blame Rivera for setting up unrealistic expectations of how elite relievers age.

Bartolo Cologne
5 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

While Rivera was of course head and shoulders above the rest, he was part of a generation of elite closers who, for whatever reason, continued to have outsized success even as they aged, and I agree that it really did set a standard that subsequent generations have struggled to match. Growing up watching Rivera, Hoffman, and Wagner, I had this impression that the trick was to just find the right guy and then ride him until he retired. It’s been interesting to see that disproven in recent years, and provides additional appreciation for just how special those guys really were.

kevininmotion
5 years ago

In addition to the May decision, I cant figure out why Roberts asked for a 3rd straight day out of our most trusted BP arm, and probable front runner in the closer sweepstakes, Blake Treinen, when we’re up 8-3 with 2 out in 7th and no runners in scoring position. Esp considering Blake’s tumultuous 2019.

Gonzales, McGee, Baez, Floro, & Kelly were all options at that point. I get that Tatis and Machado were due up and we need to close out a dangerous offense, but late innings, up 5, with a 2-0 series lead, and, solid alternatives to task with getting just 1 out, it seems like such an unnecessary risk. Am I missing something?

tung_twista
5 years ago
Reply to  kevininmotion

I don’t think asking Treinen to pitch there was as big a risk as you seem to be thinking considering there are three full days of rest between NLDS G3 and NLCS.
I would argue that it is actually the risk averse choice.

kevininmotion
5 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

Apparently my intuition for relief pitcher usage was a bit miscalibrated, haha. For those like me who didn’t know, while 3 consecutive days of usage has been in steep decline with the increased valuation of rest, its not too rare historically, and the Dodgers have already done it once this season. (Interesting Ringer article on the topic: https://tinyurl.com/y4fw8zo3)

My precaution comes from the fear of losing Treinen, who had some health issues last year. If he gets taxed and suffers an injury or decline in efficacy, our bullpen would be really lacking for experienced high lev options. Our win expectancy was at 97.4% when he entered the game, even with the rest looming, I’d think the long term play would be optimizing his abilities for the next round.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  kevininmotion

I also was skeptical about using Treinen there as I think he’s in line to be the brandon morrow of this season, a legitimately good reliever who Roberts trusts overly more than his other good relievers. With that said, if there was a situation to use him in that game, that was it: a 1 out situation where he could potentially only face one batter (in the end, he had to face 2, and only threw 9 pitches). Using him as a ROOGY to get Tatis out with 2 outs, and then being able to remove him to start the next inning, is probably the only defensible use of Treinen in that game.

With that said, his unwillingness to trust the other guys in the bullpen who have been great – Jake McGee most obviously, as he didn’t throw a single pitch against the Padres – is problematic. I understand there are some matchup concerns: McGee is both left handed and throws 95% fastballs, and a bunch of padres are really good against fastballs. However, both he and Kolarek were under-utilized in the series.

If you take a look at the 13 games vs the Padres, the Dodgers had a very specific and very effective pitching plan for Tatis and Machado, from which they were completely unwilling to deviate, and that commitment lead them at times to make decisions that otherwise look quite silly.

They held both Tatis and Machado to remarkably poor batting lines over the season series by attacking them below the strike zone with breaking stuff and mixing in a dash of fastballs inside above the hands. They were so committed to that plan that they used Joe Kelly in lieu of better relievers because he actually has that toolbox (and as you saw, he had the breaker below the zone: he just didn’t have the fastball command to force them to respect it, so they were able to lay off enough pitches to walk). Relievers who didn’t have that toolkit, like Kolarek and McGee, simply were not allowed to face Tatis and Machado under any circumstances.

kevininmotion
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Super interesting points, thanks for the breakdown! I’m not a Roberts hater, esp this season, and know management has much better info than I. Still a bit unsure if I agree with their decision but now I can rest easy.

The Fangraphs comments section is so productive – a treasure. I feel like this level of discourse is what idealists were hoping for at the dawn of the net. Instead the sad reality is closer to Youtube and 4 Chan, lol!

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  kevininmotion

They have made more questionable decisions recently; 19 is well documented, and a lot of what they did in game 2 and early game 3 IMO is pretty questionable. I have been joking someone needs to find out if Farhan Zaidi was in charge of pitching plans before he left, because it seems like there’s a big dropoff.

Kolarek and McGee should not have waited until G3 to appear (if at all). They were 2 of the 3 or 4 best relievers on the team this year, and they were good against guys on both sides of the plate. Even if you don’t want them to face Machado and Tatis due to platoon concerns and their inability to attack them in the way the strategy called for, stuff like they did in G3 where Kolarek was brought in to face the back half of the Padre lineup should have happened sooner. Brusdar Graterol, for example, didn’t pitch in a high-leverage situation in the entire season, and it was moderately insane IMO for him to be in the game facing Tatis in the situation he was that lead to the Bellinger catch. More likely, someone like McGee or Kolarek should have pitched when Treinen did, and Treinen should have been available to come in to face Tatis in that scenario (much like he did in G3). Similarly, Dylan Floro’s an entirely servicable reliever whose entire existence is based around throwing sliders to right handed batters – how did he never get a chance to throw them below the strike zone to Tatis and Machado? If hes not going to be allowed to do that, why’s he on the roster?

And the May/Urias opener strategy was just too cute by half. I think the hope was that May would pitch 2 innings, Kolarek would face 7-8-9-1, and then Urias would still come in for Tatis just like he ended up doing, but since May was erratic in the 1st and lacked command, Kolarek was instead utilized to pitch to 4-5-6.

But in the end, somehow Jake McGee, the most effective relief pitcher on the team this season, and Tony Gonsolin, who was arguably the most effective starting pitcher on the team this season, threw a combined 0 pitches to the Padres. How the hell does that happen?

kevininmotion
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I was wondering if the Nat’s 2019 strategy of letting a starter throw an inning on his BP sesh day would be implemented – esp considering how effective May, Urias, and Gonsolin have been in relief. Thought that’s what May gm1, even with 27 pitches, was about. Curious to see Roberts’ strategy with the possibility of 7 games in 7 days against ATL.

drew_willyMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

McGee and Kolarek were NOT good against batters on both sides – just check their splits!

McGee had serious reverse splits (vs LHBs: .362 woba, .364 xwoba, .522 SLG, 4.32 FIP), and Kolarek was bad against RHBs (.320 woba, .393 SLG, 9.4% BB%, 4.83 FIP, 47.8% GB%).

FrodoBeck
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Honestly, Kolarek pitched well. He got shafted hard by some bad BABIP luck and if fielders were a foot to their left or right they’re out of that inning easily.

drew_willyMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  FrodoBeck

Agreed. In his NLDS appearance, Kolarek got 5 groundballs, 4 of which were totally capable of being fielded.

Those 5 grounders produced 3 singles. He got utterly BABIP’ed to death in that appearance.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago

FWIW, I think what we’ll see happen is that Jansen won’t go unused, but they will find ways to hide him a little bit. In fact, that’s kind of what they were doing against the Padres: A 3 run lead in the 9th inning is in reach, but it’s not actually a high leverage situation! Your win probability is extremely high!

If Kenley can regain the velocity he’s missing with rest, he showed this year he can still be an effective pitcher with his additional pitches. In that instance, I think what we’ll see is what they’ve sort of done in the regular season for a couple years now already: They use the traditional closer role in order to hide Jansen and preserve his honor at the same time. The Dodgers haven’t brought Jansen in for ‘nontraditional’, high-leverage roles since the 2017 World Series. They save him for the 9th inning, and since it doesn’t line up all that often that the best opposing hitters actually bat in the 9th, they’re free to use their better relievers for the most dangerous part of opposing lineups. Similarly, they rarely use him back to back anymore, and so they will frequently use him for a low-leverage 9th inning and then have him be unavailable to pitch the next day, sparing the decision.

Also, if he returns to where he was in the regular season, he’s one of the pitchers on staff (along with Pedro Baez) who stands to benefit the most from the location of their postseason games: Jansen and Baez are extreme fly-ball pitchers, and the way that Globe Life absolutely swallows home runs could play strongly to both of those pitchers by mitigating their weaknesses.

If his velocity doesn’t return, and I would guess that after 2 appearances with the problem he’s going to have to demonstrate in side work or in a blowout that he’s regained it before he pitches another meaningful inning, I think they will bite the bullet and stop using him. There’s already been some hinting around the club, such as from Kershaw, that Kenley “will do whatever it takes to win”, which I think is indicative that there have been some conversations between the players in leadership roles about this stuff. Jansen is enormously respected in the Dodger clubhouse and is viewed as a powerful leader in the bullpen, and the Dodgers have created a culture where many players have been asked to make personal sacrifices in the interest of winning: guys good enough to be regular MLB starters end up in bullpens (Maeda, etc), guys good enough to start end up in platoons (Taylor, Pederson. Pollock, even Bellinger in 2018), and so on. They’ve built a team where everyone’s willing to do that, and I suspect that if Kenley remains impaired to this degree, he’ll do the same: his teammates will make sure of it. I also suspect that is why Roberts is kind of cagey and noncommittal about the matter: He wants any change in Kenley’s status to come with consent, and he believes he’ll get it. I think he is correct about that, because he’s created a team environment where virtually everyone else has already made similar personal sacrifices, and a refusal would be rather untenable.

jtricheyMember since 2021
5 years ago

At this point the more the media talks about how important closers are, the less it actually becomes true. Recent winners had a bullpen in shambles entering the playoffs – ’19 Nationals and ’18 Red Sox were in way, WAY worse shape than the Dodgers right now. ’17 Astros were starting to have bullpen issues during the playoffs. As a Dodger fan, the only way I will be concerned is if they DO rely on Kenley with a 1 run lead in the 9th. Anything else will be fine.

SucramRenrutMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  jtrichey

This could be the strange year that finally kills the closer.

jtricheyMember since 2021
5 years ago
Reply to  SucramRenrut

Yes. The media has finally stopped using the term “closer by committee” with derision, or using it at all thanks to the Rays 13 different pitchers getting saves.