2022 Trade Value: #11 to #20

Design by Luke Hooper.

As is tradition at FanGraphs, we’re using the lead-up to next week’s trade deadline to take stock of the top 50 players in baseball by trade value. For a more detailed introduction to this year’s exercise, as well as a look at the players who fell just short of the top 50, be sure to read the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, which can be found in the widget above.

For those of you who have been reading the Trade Value Series the last few seasons, the format should look familiar. For every player, you’ll see a table with the player’s projected five-year WAR from 2023-2027, courtesy of Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections. The table will also include the player’s guaranteed money, if any, the year through which their team has contractual control of them, last year’s rank (if applicable), and then projections, contract status, and age for each individual season through 2027, if the player is under contract or team control for those seasons. Last year’s rank includes a link to the relevant 2021 post. Thanks are due to Sean Dolinar for his help in creating the tables in these posts. At the bottom of the page, there is a grid showing all of the players who have been ranked up to this point.

Now, let’s get to the next batch of players.

Five-Year WAR +17.5
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 26 +3.7 Pre-Arb
2024 27 +3.8 Pre-Arb
2025 28 +3.6 Arb 1
2026 29 +3.3 Arb 2
2027 30 +3.1 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

If you’ve somehow never seen McClanahan pitch, do yourself a favor and check him out. He’s a joy to watch, if a little bit confusing. His delivery feels like someone tried to smooth out Clayton Kershaw; it has a little hesitation hop, but otherwise looks almost effortless. That seeming simplicity makes his velocity all the more startling; he sits 96-98 mph and mixes in a drool-inducing curveball to go along with two other solid secondaries. He’s putting up video game numbers, making him the front-runner for this year’s American League Cy Young.

He probably won’t pitch like this forever. He’s never shown either this level of pure bat-missing stuff or pinpoint command, even in the minors. Pitchers get better, but they also go on hot streaks, and McClanahan’s season looks to me like some of both. He had Tommy John surgery six years ago, which sounds kind of scary, and the Rays have been judicious with his innings; he’ll reach a new career high in innings pitched sometime in the next few weeks.

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Those risks are, in a word, acceptable. McClanahan is only 25 and won’t be a free agent until after the 2027 season. If he’s innings-limited for a year, so what? If he misses some time with injury, so what? The future is unknowable, but one of the best ways a team can “hedge” on a player is by having that player play for them for a long time. Miss out on 2023 McClanahan? That’s fine, because 2024 McClanahan is still going to be good. Miss out on him in 2025 instead? Can I interest you in a nice 2026 vintage?

It’s not quite like that, because each year is correlated with the next one. But it’s kind of like that — pitcher talent can change quite a bit from year to year. You’d be crazy to trade a year of McClanahan for a year of Corbin Burnes, but five shots at McClanahan versus two goes of Burnes? Things aren’t so clear. It feels strange to list such an unproven player at such a volatile position this highly, but that’s just how pitching works these days. And seriously, have you seen him pitch?

Five-Year WAR +18.1
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 25 +3.8 Pre-Arb
2024 26 +3.8 Pre-Arb
2025 27 +3.7 Arb 1
2026 28 +3.5 Arb 2
2027 29 +3.3 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

I expect this one to be controversial, because McClanahan was a more highly touted prospect who is now leading Manoah in the AL Cy Young race. And a majority of the people I consulted while constructing this list liked McClanahan more than Manoah. I can see why! He’s a lefty who throws 97 mph and strikes the world out. That’s a pretty nice package. Some people also questioned whether Manoah’s build implies some risk of his control backsliding.

Those are legitimate concerns, but nitpicking the order of two great, controllable young starters seems like a waste of time to me. I put Manoah ahead because I really like his profile and because calling it a tie wouldn’t make anyone happy. I’ll briefly lay out the case for Manoah, but just know that teams would be really happy to get either of these two young aces, and if anything, I’m probably too low on the pair.

Manoah sits 93-95 mph with enviable fastball shape on two different heaters. His best weapon is a wipeout slider, and he’s added a solid changeup this year, giving him more ways to handle lefties. He has a Verlander-ish approach to pitching; he often maxes out his velocity late in starts, and tops out above 97 when he really needs it. He’s aggressive in the strike zone, and his four-seamer has enough carry to be a good out pitch, which lets him keep his foot on the gas pedal with two strikes. He’s not posting huge strikeout numbers, but I think that’s more an approach issue than anything else; he seems very averse to wasting pitches, so he’s getting fewer bad swings and living with soft contact in pitcher’s counts instead.

They look nothing alike (and throw with different hands, to boot), but Manoah reminds me of Madison Bumgarner in many ways, from the aggressive approach to the fastball/hard breaking ball/changeup pitch mix. Time will tell if Manoah can repeat his performance and volume the way Bumgarner did throughout his career, but he certainly looks the part this year, and that would be a heck of a pitcher to build your rotation around.

Will it work out that way? I dunno. This could be his best season. This could be McClanahan’s best season. Pitching is volatile. Anyone who tells you they know with certainty which of these two will be better is lying. But in the absence of an overwhelmingly different statistical record, I’ll take the one who looks like more of a workhorse if I have to pick.

Five-Year WAR +13.5
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 25 +2.7 Pre-Arb
2024 26 +2.8 Pre-Arb
2025 27 +2.8 Arb 1
2026 28 +2.6 Arb 2
2027 29 +2.6 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

It feels like an eternity ago that we wondered how the Astros would replace Carlos Correa’s production. Peña had less than 150 plate appearances above A-ball before the year started, so he was far from a sure bet. Four months later, that wondering looks foolish. Peña is the second-best rookie in baseball this year, and already looks like a key part of Houston’s next generation of stars.

I’m not totally convinced by his offensive output. His game is built on aggression at the plate; he hunts fastballs and swings freely in the pursuit of them. That strategy has been working so far — he’s doing a ton of damage when he gets something to hit, which more than offsets his extra strikeouts and lack of walks — but I’m not sure that will hold up as pitchers adapt to his tactics by throwing him more bendy pitches, avoiding the strike zone.

But who cares? Peña is an elite defensive shortstop, with huge range, good instincts, and a solid arm. He could be a poor hitter and still be an above-average player. That’s a meaningful boost to his value; you can be fairly sure that Peña will be worth plugging into your lineup for years to come, even if his bat regresses. That redundancy explains the gap between, say, Peña and Nolan Gorman, who’s putting up similar offensive numbers at a younger age.

If you’re going to trade for someone, risk of ruin matters. Teams hate trading for a player and then feeling forced to play them even if they’re below average, and you can understand why. There’s dramatically less risk of that happening with Peña — trade for him, and you’ll almost certainly have something to show for it three seasons from now. As the old adage goes, it’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future, but “Peña will be a valuable major league shortstop in three years” feels like a safe one to me.

Five-Year WAR +18.9
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank #33
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 28 +4.4 Arb 1
2024 29 +4.1 Arb 2
2025 30 +3.9 Arb 3
Arb

Catchers mostly aren’t very good hitters — the act of catching is simply too hard on their bodies — but Smith isn’t most catchers. He’s done nothing but hit his entire major league career, and not in some flukish way, either. He has a tremendous understanding of the strike zone, which makes everything else in his game play up. If you’re pitching to Smith, you’ll likely have to challenge him in the strike zone to get him out. He’s not blessed with abnormally great power or anything, but he has good contact skills and mostly swings at good pitches, so he produces above-average power numbers anyway. It’s lazy to make intra-team comparisons, but Smith has a little bit of Mookie Betts in him at the plate, and that’s a very good thing.

In his career, Smith has produced at an All-Star clip, and he’s done it every single year he’s been in the majors. His game is just stable: he doesn’t strike out much, takes walks, and provides roughly average defense behind the plate. It works out to a 5 WAR per 600 PA pace, which is the kind of production you just don’t see from catchers. In my estimation, he’s the best catcher in baseball, and I don’t think it’s particularly close. His bat is so good that he’d be a fine DH or first baseman, but it truly stands out in the wasteland that is catcher offense in 2022; backstops are hitting .226/.296/.368 in aggregate.

I didn’t get much pushback at all on Smith’s ranking when I solicited feedback on this list. Teams would trade a ton for three years of a 130 wRC+ bat behind the plate. If one thing holds him back, it’s the nature of the catching position; it requires extra rest days, which limits total playing time. If Smith gets much better offensively, it might even make sense to play him at first base – or at least, it would for a team that didn’t also have Freddie Freeman and Max Muncy.

Five-Year WAR +15.7
Guaranteed Dollars $21.0 M
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank #4
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 26 +3.4 $7.0 M
2024 27 +3.6 $7.0 M
2025 28 +3.1 $7.0 M
2026 29 +2.9 $7.0 M
2027 30 +2.7 $7.0 M
Team Option

Albies has become the go-to example for preposterously team-friendly contracts, thanks to the seven-year, $35 million deal he signed before the 2019 season. He’s a bargain and a multi-time All-Star. For years, he was an automatic inclusion in the top five of this list.

I don’t think he fits there anymore. We’re at the part of the list where almost everyone is on a great contract. Albies offers team control at a bargain-basement salary, but he’s more solid regular than superstar at this point. He has a career 106 wRC+, and a 102 since the start of the 2020 season; that’s pretty much the definition of an average bat. He doesn’t have a true carrying tool on offense; he makes decent contact, which combined with an aggressive approach limits his strikeouts, but he doesn’t walk much or hit for plus power. Sure, he hit 30 bombs last season (and 24 in 2018 and ’19), but that feels more like a career year than the new normal, particularly in this era of a less-lively baseball.

Albies does everything else well, which gives him a nice floor. He plays plus defense at second base and adds value on the basepaths. Until this year, he’d been remarkably durable; he eclipsed 680 plate appearances in each of 2018, ’19, and ’21. This year, he was playing nearly every day until a broken foot landed him on the 60-day IL. Those are real skills! Baseball teams value them highly. But “average bat, great fielding second baseman who adds value on the basepaths” describes a lot of players who didn’t even make this list. Albies’s contract can only carry him so far.

Five-Year WAR +15.7
Guaranteed Dollars $60.0 M
Team Control Through 2030
Previous Rank #16
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 26 +3.3 $10.0 M
2024 27 +3.3 $7.0 M
2025 28 +3.2 $7.0 M
2026 29 +3.1 $7.0 M
2027 30 +2.8 $7.0 M

Meet the new Ozzie Albies! That’s unfair to both Hayes and Albies, but Hayes is going to be regular on these lists for a long time thanks to the eight-year contract (plus a team option) he signed before the start of this season. I expected to get some pushback here when I asked a few contacts where to rank Hayes – I’m generally very high on him – but I got none, because there’s so much to like here when you consider the player and the contract.

First of all, Hayes is the best defensive third baseman in baseball. That’s not really up for debate; he has huge range, a plus arm, and the kind of instincts that make it look like he can see five seconds into the future. Per Statcast, he’s saved 27 outs defensively since debuting partway through 2020, and other defensive metrics generally agree. That’s second only to Nolan Arenado’s 30, but Hayes has played 700 fewer innings. No one else even comes close. You can’t project him to be quite this good going forward, but even discounting his glove somewhat leaves him as one of the best defenders in the game.

Second, he has thunder in his bat. He’s in the 88th percentile for average exit velocity league-wide and the 90th for maximum exit velocity. His swing isn’t ferocious, but he generates loud contact anyway. He walks more than average and strikes out less than average. When you put it that way, he sounds like an excellent offensive player.

One big problem: he can’t get the ball off the ground. His swing is geared for grounders, and he makes his loudest contact at low angles. That explains the anemic power numbers despite plus raw power. If he doesn’t fix that, he’ll be more average bat than slugger; his career wRC+ stands at 102, for example. If he does, even if it comes at the cost of more strikeouts, he could be the next Josh Donaldson, a vacuum cleaner third baseman who does it all.

You’re not guaranteed of that, but even if he doesn’t put it all together offensively, Hayes is a valuable player. He’s playing at a 4.4 WAR per 600 plate appearances clip, the level of a perennial All-Star. Cut that down to 3.5 WAR by discounting his defense, and that’s still a borderline All-Star. He’ll be doing it in Pittsburgh a long time, unless they trade him (trade value, etc. etc.), and he’ll be doing it at a bargain rate, averaging just $8.8 million per year. Hayes is already a foundational piece for the Pirates, and if he can unlock his natural power, he could be more than that.

Five-Year WAR +20.8
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 23 +3.8 Pre-Arb
2024 24 +4.3 Pre-Arb
2025 25 +4.3 Arb 1
2026 26 +4.3 Arb 2
2027 27 +4.1 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

I’ll admit to being swayed somewhat by the ZiPS projections here. Witt and Peña are putting up similar batting lines, and Peña is a better defender. But ZiPS is buying what Witt is selling, and I used projections in compiling this list for a reason: particularly for players who have had short major league careers, knowing what projection systems think of them is useful information. And what the projections are picking up here isn’t exactly some esoteric signal. Last year, Witt played a half-season in Triple-A at age 21; Peña played a half-season in Triple-A at age 23. Witt struck out meaningfully less often, walked twice as much, and put up eye-popping batted ball numbers. There’s a reason Witt came into the season as one of the top prospects in the game: he has all the tools, and a scorched-earth track record to boot. Doing it in the majors while playing a credible shortstop at age 21? Yeah, that’ll play.

Is he an aggressive swinger? No doubt, and major league pitchers have noticed. They’re avoiding the strike zone and throwing him a heaping helping of sliders. He’ll need to make an adjustment, but assuming Witt will make an adjustment is a safe bet. He’s actually swinging and missing less frequently than he did at Triple-A last year, and getting better as the season wears on. He’s also hitting the snot out of the ball, and he’s the fastest runner in the game.

Could Witt top out around his current production and never turn into a superstar, projections notwithstanding? Absolutely. That’s a risk inherent in any player with such a short track record, and it wouldn’t shock me to see Witt either much lower on this list next year or comfortably in the top 10. His position here represents his immense raw talent, and also the fact that he’s only played in the majors for four months.

Five-Year WAR +20.1
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2028
Previous Rank #24
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 25 +3.9 Pre-Arb
2024 26 +4.0 Pre-Arb
2025 27 +4.3 Pre-Arb
2026 28 +3.9 Arb 1
2027 29 +4.0 Arb 2
Pre-Arb
Arb

Rutschman hurt his right tricep early this spring, which delayed his debut, but it strikes me as highly unlikely that the Orioles were going to bring him up before the full-service-year cutoff anyway. That’s gross, and it’s also part of the story when you’re talking about his trade value; with a year less of team control, Rutschman would be lower on this list. The rest of this writeup will focus on what he does on the field, but it warrants mentioning; I don’t see how you can leave the service time element out when talking about Rutschman.

Anyway: Rutschman is pretty awesome. He put up frankly unbelievable batting numbers in the minor leagues while playing excellent defense behind the plate. I was marginally worried about his underlying batted ball quality, but I only saw a limited sample of his 2021 numbers, and he’s put those questions to rest with the higher-quality data available in the majors; as it turns out, he has plenty of thump and gets to it frequently. He’s not Will Smith offensively, but I’d put him in the next tier down, which is amazing for a rookie catcher.

If you trust scouts (and I do in general), his defense is excellent. It certainly passes the eye test; he looks smooth both blocking and receiving. More generally, he just looks comfortable and competent overall, and while that’s not something I included in his ranking, it certainly wouldn’t make me less confident in trading for him.

As I’ve mentioned repeatedly in this exercise, I’m wary of overvaluing catcher defense, particularly framing. Rutschman’s deal is long enough that a robo-zone is almost an inevitability by the end of his team control years, which makes things even more complicated. But teams would break the bank for six-plus years of a catcher who already looks like one of the best in baseball, whether or not he steals a few extra strikes here and there.

Five-Year WAR +18.2
Guaranteed Dollars $90.9 M
Team Control Through 2028
Previous Rank
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 29 +4.1 $15.1 M
2024 30 +4.0 $15.1 M
2025 31 +3.8 $15.1 M
2026 32 +3.4 $15.1 M
2027 33 +2.9 $15.1 M

Buxton presents a unique challenge in these rankings, because he has a unique contract. His MVP bonuses – $3 million for a 10th place finish up to $8 million for winning – mean that his salary isn’t set in advance. That’s a really good matchup of outlay and reward, though; if you’re paying Buxton more than expected, he’s realizing the good half of his outcomes, which mostly involves staying on the field.

That’s because when Buxton is on the field, he’s the real deal. He’s the best defensive center fielder in the game, and also one of its premier power hitters. I think everyone knows about the defense – one Buxton highlight is all you need to have his blazing speed become evident – but the power is truly gobsmacking. He has hellacious bat speed and gets to all of his power quite frequently. He’ll likely always have contact issues, but he’s improved markedly when it comes to pitch selection, and I could see that trending in the right direction in future years even if his power dips somewhat.

As for the injuries, I’m heartened that Buxton is seemingly trying harder to keep himself healthy. He’s hardly stealing bases at all, saving his full-speed bursts for when he really needs them. I don’t think he’ll suddenly be the picture of health, but this year has been encouraging on that front so far.

Some teams might prefer a player with a lower ceiling but a greater chance of staying in the lineup. Lots of teams, though, think they’re better than their competitors at keeping players on the field, and some of them are even right. Buxton is the kind of risk teams like to take; if things go very wrong, his contract isn’t onerous, and things will likely go very right when he’s available. Teams don’t like to gamble, as I’ve mentioned over and over again throughout this exercise. Most front offices live by the words of Joey Knish: “You can’t lose what you don’t put in the middle.” Buxton might make them consider the way Mike McDermott finished that thought, though: “But you can’t win much, either.”

Five-Year WAR +20.9
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank #23
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2023 26 +4.7 Arb 1
2024 27 +4.4 Arb 2
2025 28 +4.1 Arb 3
Arb

Here’s a list of lefty batters I’d take over Tucker over the next three years: Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, Bryce Harper, and maybe Rafael Devers. Harper and Devers were on the honorable mention list (and either could easily have been in the top 50). The other two are in the top 10. Sure, Freddie Freeman is great, and if you want to put him over Tucker I wouldn’t fight you over it, but Tucker reminds me of a young Freeman, a gap-to-gap machine with the raw power to hit line drives out of the park.

Tucker’s offensive approach is downright elite. There’s no question he’s up there looking to swing, and he’s aggressive in the strike zone, but his eye is so good that he rarely chases anyway. He hits for what I’d consider an appropriate amount of contact; he’s not David Fletcher up there, but I wouldn’t want him to be, and accepting swing-and-miss for power is a good deal if you’re still making as much contact as Tucker is.

The fringe benefits are nice, too. Despite middling straight-line speed, Tucker is a threat to steal 20 bags a year. He has excellent baserunning instincts and plays faster than his measurables. He’s a plus defender in the corner outfield, and could probably fake center if necessary, though the Astros are awash in glove-first center fielders at the moment, so that’s guesswork.

Admittedly, this spot on the list assumes teams are interested in cheap production. Tucker will have his first trip through arbitration this winter, which means he’ll be meaningfully underpaid relative to his production for the next several years. How you calibrate the tradeoff between talent and compensation affects Tucker’s spot on the list. If you think teams trading for players this good would prefer a bona fide superstar over Tucker, even on a bigger contract, you could slide him down as low as 20th. But you generally won’t go wrong by betting on teams to covet ultra-cheap, star-level production. Tucker has quietly started to fit that description, and he’s only 25. He’s part of Houston’s new core, and I assume the Astros are going to keep this ranking strictly theoretical by signing him to an extension this offseason.

2022 Trade Value, 11-50
Rk Pv Player Age 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027
11 23 Kyle Tucker 25 +4.7
Arb 1
+4.4
Arb 2
+4.1
Arb 3
12 Byron Buxton 28 +4.1
$15.1 M
+4.0
$15.1 M
+3.8
$15.1 M
+3.4
$15.1 M
+2.9
$15.1 M
13 24 Adley Rutschman 24 +3.9
Pre-Arb
+4.0
Pre-Arb
+4.3
Pre-Arb
+3.9
Arb 1
+4.0
Arb 2
14 HM Bobby Witt Jr. 22 +3.8
Pre-Arb
+4.3
Pre-Arb
+4.3
Arb 1
+4.3
Arb 2
+4.1
Arb 3
15 16 Ke’Bryan Hayes 25 +3.3
$10.0 M
+3.3
$7.0 M
+3.2
$7.0 M
+3.1
$7.0 M
+2.8
$7.0 M
16 4 Ozzie Albies 25 +3.4
$7.0 M
+3.6
$7.0 M
+3.1
$7.0 M
+2.9
$7.0 M
+2.7
$7.0 M
17 33 Will Smith 27 +4.4
Arb 1
+4.1
Arb 2
+3.9
Arb 3
18 Jeremy Peña 24 +2.7
Pre-Arb
+2.8
Pre-Arb
+2.8
Arb 1
+2.6
Arb 2
+2.6
Arb 3
19 Alek Manoah 24 +3.8
Pre-Arb
+3.8
Pre-Arb
+3.7
Arb 1
+3.5
Arb 2
+3.3
Arb 3
20 Shane McClanahan 25 +3.7
Pre-Arb
+3.8
Pre-Arb
+3.6
Arb 1
+3.3
Arb 2
+3.1
Arb 3
21 20 Bo Bichette 24 +3.9
Arb 1
+4.0
Arb 2
+3.8
Arb 3
22 Austin Riley 25 +3.6
Arb 2
+3.5
Arb 3
+3.4
Arb 4
23 14 Corbin Burnes 27 +5.2
Arb 2
+5.1
Arb 3
24 7 Mookie Betts 29 +4.5
$25.4 M
+4.2
$30.4 M
+3.7
$30.4 M
+3.1
$30.4 M
+2.2
$30.4 M
25 Logan Webb 25 +3.6
Arb 1
+3.7
Arb 2
+3.5
Arb 3
26 17 Shohei Ohtani 27 +6.2
Arb 3
27 Alejandro Kirk 23 +2.9
Pre-Arb
+3.2
Arb 1
+3.3
Arb 2
+3.5
Arb 3
28 25 Framber Valdez 28 +2.9
Arb 2
+2.5
Arb 3
+2.5
Arb 4
29 HM Brandon Lowe 27 +2.9
$5.3 M
+2.7
$8.8 M
+2.6
$10.5 M
+2.2
$11.5 M
30 12 Shane Bieber 27 +4.3
Arb 2
+4.2
Arb 3
31 21 Jake Cronenworth 28 +4.0
Arb 1
+3.8
Arb 2
+3.5
Arb 3
32 43 Freddy Peralta 26 +2.8
$3.7 M
+2.7
$5.7 M
+2.5
$8.0 M
+2.3
$8.0 M
33 HM Cedric Mullins 27 +3.2
Arb 1
+2.9
Arb 2
+2.9
Arb 3
34 HM Bryan Reynolds 27 +3.8
$6.8 M
+3.7
Arb 3
+3.6
Arb 4
35 19 Brandon Woodruff 29 +4.1
Arb 3
+3.8
Arb 4
36 HM Max Fried 28 +4.6
Arb 3
+4.4
Arb 4
37 38 Sean Murphy 27 +3.0
Arb 1
+2.8
Arb 2
+2.7
Arb 3
38 Oneil Cruz 23 +2.4
Pre-Arb
+2.6
Pre-Arb
+2.7
Pre-Arb
+2.6
Arb 1
+2.4
Arb 2
39 Dylan Cease 26 +3.3
Arb 1
+3.3
Arb 2
+3.2
Arb 3
40 HM Jazz Chisholm Jr. 24 +2.2
Pre-Arb
+2.4
Arb 1
+2.5
Arb 2
+2.2
Arb 3
41 22 Ketel Marte 28 +3.2
$11.6 M
+3.1
$13.6 M
+2.8
$16.6 M
+2.4
$16.6 M
+1.9
$14.6 M
42 Luis Arraez 25 +3.3
Arb 2
+3.2
Arb 3
+3.1
Arb 4
43 HM Pete Alonso 27 +4.2
Arb 2
+4.2
Arb 3
44 48 Luis Garcia 25 +2.3
Pre-Arb
+2.2
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46 Ty France 27 +3.7
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+2.9
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48 Riley Greene 21 +2.4
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49 42 Dylan Carlson 23 +2.6
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+2.5
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50 32 Randy Arozarena 27 +2.3
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+2.0
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+1.7
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Ozzie Albies
4 years ago

🙁

OtterMember since 2016
4 years ago

A general observation, there is a lot of volatility on this list year to year.

baubo
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Because 1 year of cheap service time is worth a lot. This is fairly obvious when you look at what players about to enter FA fetch on the market vs someone with 2-3 years left.

Now one may dislike the way MLB teams think like this and essentially focus on a player’s value-over-salary rather than pure production, but you can’t disagree that’s how they tend to operate, especially the more analytical teams

JohnThackerMember since 2025
4 years ago
Reply to  baubo

Now one may dislike the way MLB teams think like this and essentially focus on a player’s value-over-salary rather than pure production

And if one wants to focus on that, there are plenty of other rankings and ratings that do so. The title of this series of posts tells you what you’re going to get.

OtterMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  baubo

The counter point is that there should not be this much variance year over year. If I’m trading for Flaherty or Giolito, them going from the 20s to off the list entirely is less than ideal. I realize player performance and injury plays a role in all of this, particularly for pitchers, so maybe we’re overvaluing pitchers? Bregman going from top 10 to off the list either means he was extremely overrated last year or is extremely underrated now.

My point was more of an observation than any sort of “take” or in depth analysis fwiw.

notsuoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Guys with ballooning extensions kicking in will often drop off when they get into the expensive years. Bregman has 2/57 left on his deal after this season. Last year and this year was 2/22. You’re talking one less season of control, a price hike, and in this case a certain amount of talent drop off.

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  notsuoh

Aging affects everybody.
(Even Trout.)
Injuries, too. Get a few and even high performers become risky.
(Have I mentioned Trout?)
Over time it all ads up.
Throw in career year spikes (which are only clear in hindsight) and the list is going to see significant variation in expectation.
See Albies, above.

OtterMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  notsuoh

But we knew about Bregman’s contract a year ago. We also knew that he might not be the same hitter a year ago. I think he’s clearly a case of someone that was overvalued last year. I’m not advocating for a ‘perfect’ list; obviously we’d all miss on guys because of injuries. But we probably should account for more risk in these lists, which probably means being more cautious on pitchers and hitters who are showing signs of regression.

I also think players around the 2.5 win mark on fantastic contracts we should be more cautious on as well. These often are guys who if anything changes, be it losing a step/league figuring them out, they’re suddenly a 1-2 win player and the contract is no longer anything special (to be fair these are usually younger players often pre-arb).

tung_twista
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Ohtani is the only player on the top 50 trade value list in the last four years with 1.5 seasons of control left.
Yes, athletic performances are volatile.
But if you think Flaherty/Giolito dropping off the list says anything about variance or overrating pitchers, then there is likely some fundamental misunderstanding on what trade value is all about.

dl80Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

We didn’t know that so much of Bregman’s power was due to the different ball last year; we do now.

OtterMember since 2016
4 years ago

I do think this list continues to overvalue good players on great contracts and underrates great players on good deals. But we’ve had this debate here for 10 years or so, lol, sorry to say it again.

Joe Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

I think this list has done the opposite. IMO, teams would rather trade for good players on great deals and sign great players to FA contracts than trade for great players on good deals and fill out roster with a less than good player.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

I’d argue that the list is heterogeneous enough that both of you can find examples to support your case.

But if we’re talking about Ozzie Albies and Mookie Betts, I’d put Betts down around where Mike Trout is and keep Albies in roughly the same spot. I wouldn’t move him down more than 5-7 spots.

Joe Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Betts is the reason for my statement. I can see preference mattering when you are lower on the list vs guys in honorable mentions. Juan Soto and Aaron Judge exist. If a team is willing to spend prospects on Betts as the 22nd best trade value, they are just going to spend more to get Soto. The Dodgers this offseason would likely swap Mookie straight up for anyone around him in the TV list and then use the savings to outbid the Yankees for Judge. I’d rather have Judge and Ohtani or Judge and Webb than Betts if I was the Dodgers this offseason.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

This presumes that Judge and Ohtani would prefer to play for the Dodgers than anyone else. That’s a very risky assumption on which to trade Betts

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Why is it risky?
Ohtani is already in LA, just a bit down the road, and Judge is a california native. If the Dodgers want to outbid everybody it won’t be LA that stops them.
And if you want to be on the big stage, LA is as big as NY. Arguably bigger today, as far as baseball is concerned.

DLHughey
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

100%. Despite money being theoretically infinite for these billionaires owners and MLB star talent being very finite, the focus is so often on linking the two as if money somehow matters more than talent.

Valuing years of control is one thing, but valuing them because they’re cheap rather than because the talent is elite is poor process driven by made up “budgets.”

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

Budgets should be flexible based on value created to franchise. Dodgers, Mets and Padres operate this way. Cardinals set the budget as a way to preserve franchise value. Other teams seem to view the franchise value as independent of team quality, and set the budgets based on expected revenues in the coming year. This last approach seems short-sighted to me. There’s basically no market where the value couldn’t approach that of the Cardinals if ownership would make the overriding focus the building of recurring revenues.

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Team value matters when you’re selling (Nats) or bringing in investors (Cleveland). Other owners focus instead on profits and liabilities.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

But this is how most teams tend to operate. If you wanted to trade Mookie Betts tomorrow and whatever no-trade considerations are in his contract don’t apply, there are probably only 3 teams that would be interested. That would be the Dodgers (his current team), the Yankees, and the Mets. The fact that there are so few bidders will drive down the prospect value considerably before we even note that Betts’ contract has minimal (if any) surplus value. Most teams just don’t treat money as a secondary consideration anymore.

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

As you said: theoretically.
Out in the real world, the owners tend to be business folks and very concious of the value of money, which is how most got to be billionaires.
If you want to project how they might act, you need to factor in how they think.

Antonio BananasMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

“How most got to be billionaires”

That or being born super wealthy already

airforce21oneMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

Curious as to what line of work youre in if you think budgets aren’t a thing

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Pre-crash venture capital?

tomerafan
4 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Agree, 100%

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
4 years ago

So let’s start guessing members of the top 10…

Soto and Alvarez are known. Acuna is obviously on there. Julio Rodriguez is a lock as well. Jose Ramirez is a lock, also Sandy Alcantara…

There’s 6 without thinking too hard about it.

baubo
4 years ago

Also Vlad and Franco off the top of my head seems obvious.

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  baubo

Tatis definitely. LouBob the other?

smb11488Member since 2018
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

nvm

Last edited 4 years ago by smb11488
sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

I’ll do you one better and predict the order:

(1) Rodriguez
(2) Acuna
(3) Soto
(4) Ramirez
(5) Vlad Jr.
(6) Robert
(7) Alvarez
(8) Franco
(9) Alcantara
(10) Tatis Jr

FWIW, I’m a little skeptical those last 3 belong on tomorrow’s list rather than this one myself. But that’s a pretty small nit to pick.

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Eh, I was ready to agree with you on Tatis being more in the 11-20 range, but even if we assume he’s a corner OF going forward (and he probably should be), that bat is still going to play…

SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
4 years ago

Actually, the more I think about it, shouldn’t Tatis rank ahead of Soto? He’s actually a couple months younger than Soto, and has almost exactly the same career OPS+. Let’s assume Tatis is a corner OF going forward, he’s still going to provide a lot more value than Soto on the basepaths and in the field. In addition, he’s already locked up through age 35, which is probably close to the exact amount of time you’d want to lock him up. Tatis will be getting paid less than Soto will make in arbitration the next couple years, and it looks pretty certain that Soto’s inevitable extension will blow Tatis’ out of the water.

Unless you have reason to believe Tatis’ wrist injury is going to be a recurring issue, or symptomatic of a larger issue, I can’t imagine taking Soto over Tatis.

dnc
4 years ago

I think Tatis has more injury red flags than just the one wrist injury. If you could guarantee he’d play 150 games a year at least 80% of his contract then I might rank him ahead of Soto for the reasons you mentioned (I do agree he’s more valuable when he’s on the field). But his injury history scares me. Soto seems the safer bet here.

And also Soto at least gives teams the possibility of acquiring him without a huge long term commitment. Some teams might deal for him without planning to resign him and just take the 2 1/2 years. Or you can acquire him and give him a huge deal. Tatis doesn’t have that kind of flexibility. I think Soto is the more valuable piece though Tatis has the higher upside.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

The injuries are terrifying. We’re well past “it’s a freak injury” territory. Without the injuries he’s almost certainly Top 5.

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Injuries plus a looonnnbgg contracf…
They’d better have good insurance.
And that’s not cheap anyway…

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago

If Tatis didn’t have injury concerns and was an average defensive corner outfielder, he would be #1 on this list.
Tatis’ wRC+ since 2019 is 153, right between Judge and Harper at 5th best.

Tatis healthy is like having a Harper or Judge hitter. Average corner defense? Harper wishes. Let’s not forget Tatis is an asset on the bases. Judge wishes. And of course the biggest factor. Those guys ages start with a 3 and Tatis’ ends with one. A version of Tatis that was the picture of health and was a free agent right now would get $500 million easy. That would be the start.

Last edited 4 years ago by TKDC
cs3
4 years ago

What about the shoulder? That seems like a way scarier problem than the wrist.
What would make anyone think Tatis will suddenly be capable of playing multiple 150+ game seasons in a row?

Pepper Martin
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I cannot see Tatis making this list. He’s owed $324 million and his wrist injury screams “Nomar Garciaparra 2.0” to me. I think that contract is going to be an albatross for the Padres for a very long time.

dnc
4 years ago
Reply to  Pepper Martin

He’s not just making the list he’s making the top 10.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  dnc

Yeah I don’t agree with it either but unless they’ve made a mistake somewhere he’s on the Top 10.

Pepper Martin
4 years ago
Reply to  dnc

As recently as 3 weeks ago, before Tatis announced he was starting a hitting program seemingly hours after the Padres said they had no time table, I would have said that there was a non-zero chance that Tatis has already played his final major league game. Now that seems unlikely, but I certainly don’t think it’s below a 10th percentile outcome for him to have fewer than 100 MLB games left in his career. We’ve seen this movie too many times with players having mysterious injuries they don’t keep their teams fully abreast of.

jtricheyMember since 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Pepper Martin

Can you give us some examples? I can’t think of any non-pitchers this would apply to that don’t involve some kind of massive head/eye injury.

jasonl
4 years ago
Reply to  jtrichey

Obviously a much lower caliber player but Allen Craig went from reliably 135 wRC+ to out of MLB in 162 games because of a Lisfranc injury.

dl80Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  jtrichey

I think he’s talking about non-baseball injuries that were originally covered up, like Jeff Kent, Madison Bumgarner, Aaron Boone, Clint Barmes, Yoenis Cespedes.

But all those guys except Cespedes continued to play for years, though you could argue none were ever quite the same, except for Kent (who may have had some “help”).

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  jtrichey

Albert Belle is one possibility.
Officially he didn’t know he had a degenerative condition shen he signed the last contract…

gettwobrute79Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  Pepper Martin

So we’ve entered the “make believe” section of the comments where Pepper ruminates of players (likely fictional) who are hurt and never played again.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Soto at 3 would be weird. He’s basically been who he is since he debuted. He was 3 in 2020 and fell to 5 last year. It wouldn’t make sense for him to jump this year. One less year means more and more the closer you get to free agency. Corbin Burnes is the next highest player with the same team control left at 23, and Ben called him the best healthy pitcher in baseball. Besides Vladdy, every other player listed has at least five more years of team control after this one. Soto has two more.

I think he is that good. That good that he deserves to be in tomorrow’s post. But all these other guys are so good and on such favorable terms with their teams, that they will all likely be making this list again for the next 2-3 years. Soto’s ceiling next year is Ohtani’s placement this year. I’d have him over Tatis. That’s it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Yeah, but of the guys in front of him last year we know Albies is below him and Tatis Jr is another one. And Soto has been on fire since last year, when he was not hitting well by his standards.

Who goes in front of him? Acuna and Rodriguez, definitely. I’d buy Ramirez, Vlad Jr, Yordan Alvarez. That’s about it. Alright, maybe #3 is too high, but I can’t see him lower than #6 either. #5 or #6 seems about right.

Of the remainder: Alcantara is a pitcher, so probably not him. Wander Franco is certainly valuable but he’s not exactly lighting the world on fire right now. And then Tatis Jr. And Luis Robert has had his own injury issues and isn’t exactly a lock to hit at an elite level.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Soto has been on fire since last year, when he was not hitting well by his standards.”

Wait, what? Last year “when he was not hitting well by his standards” he was at 313/465/534 (163 wRC+). Him “being on fire since last year”, a/k/a this year, is a decidely worse 243/400/480 (148 wRC+).

Still excellent in 2022, but I’m not sure how last year was “below standard” and this year is “on fire”.

Mahoney
4 years ago

I’m still in awe of that Buxton contract. The amount, the upside incentives, the fact that a mid-market team did this for one of their homegrown stars – all are just so not 2022 type things.

The fact that this feels like a bargain for the Twins AND also gives Buxton a nine-figure guarantee of lifetime security puts this deal over the top.

rye890
4 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

Can he play 100 games in a season first?

cs3
4 years ago
Reply to  rye890

Lets start with 90 and build from there

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

I like Byron Buxton but both him and Tatis Jr. scare the heck out of me. I am not at all confident Buxton or Tatis Jr. belong this high. They do belong on this list, but ahead of Shane McClanahan and Adley Rutschman? The injury risk is both clear and present.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

That Tatis contract is pretty scary right now, and there’s only a handful of teams who play at those prices to begin with. A healthy, productive year would put him right back in the top 10, but right now? I dunno.

rye890
4 years ago

Byron Buxton is garbage sorry not sorry

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  rye890

You don’t have to be sorry, just wrong

rye890
4 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

The best ability is availability and he doesn’t have it

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  rye890

If he had it he’d be top-5. #12 is with the injuries factored in

Six Ten
4 years ago
Reply to  rye890

Buxton put up 4 WAR in half-time duty last year. If you put a replacement level player in there the rest of the season your cumulative CF output was the 5th best in baseball.

Given the choice, would I take 4 WAR distributed evenly over 162 games instead of 4 WAR over 61 games plus 0 WAR over 100? Yeah probably. But here’s the thing: you aren’t doomed to get 0 WAR over the other 100 games. If you get 4 WAR over 61 games and 2 WAR over the other 100 you now have the #1 or 2 CF in baseball.

Availability is the best ability, but it isn’t the only ability, and if your other abilities are so dominant when you are available it makes up for a hell of a lot that’s lost when you’re not.

(No, I don’t think Buxton’s TTL is 4 WAR over 60 games year in year out, but this argument is only slightly weaker at a 6 WAR full season pace, too, and he has been at that pace for years now.)

airforce21oneMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  Six Ten

(No, I don’t think Buxton’s TTL is 4 WAR over 60 games year in year out, but this argument is only slightly weaker at a 6 WAR full season pace, too, and he has been at that pace for years now.)”

It’s 25% weaker, actually.

si.or.noMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

You were trying to be clever but your math is bad, actually.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  si.or.no

If you go from 8 WAR to 6 WAR, what percentage have you lost?

Mean Mr. Mustard
4 years ago
Reply to  rye890

So if player A hits 25 home runs in 100 games and player B hits 30 in 150, you’re taking player B?

gotwins04
4 years ago
Reply to  rye890

Just saying this doesn’t make it true. I’m available to stand in CF for the Twins 162 times but I can’t hit major league pitching. By this logic my ability > Buxton’s?

scotth855Member since 2020
4 years ago

If my calculations are correct we are looking at (in no order):

Rodriguez
Acuna Jr.
Alcantara
Vlad Jr.
Robert
Yordan
Ohtani
Soto
Franco
Ramirez

Does that leave out Goldschmidt/Tatis?

dnc
4 years ago
Reply to  scotth855

Tatis is in, Ohtani was already listed.

scotth855Member since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  dnc

Good catch, missed that!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  scotth855

Ohtani was already on the list. Tatis is on there. Goldschmidt gets left out. Probably should have been an honorable mention.

scotth855Member since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Ah good catch. Missed him!

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago

Ok, maybe you’ve heard this before, but how do you square Peña and Harris II? Peña has 23 more big league games and he’s playing a good shortstop instead of a good centerfield. He was a 55 prospect and Harris II was a 50. Oh, and Harris II is 2.5 years younger. Nearly identical walk rates, K rates, ISO, and wRC+. Harris II hits the ball on the ground a lot more but he also hits the ball harder. Peña has provided more defensive value but Harris II has been an elite base runner so far.

To me, finding nits to pick to elevate Peña over Harris II can basically be wiped out by the simple factor that Peña turns 25 in September and Harris II turns 22 next March.

*insert Simpson’s he’s already dead dot jpg here*

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Michael Harris II is this year’s Bryan Reynolds, right down to next year’s placement around #35.

Mahoney
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Age, years of control, and first-half 2022 success means that Harris will likely be at least an HM next year, even if he regresses a lot. The glove looks real and that should buy him time to work out any offensive adjustments in the bigs (he’s basically filling the slot that Pache was intended to fill, as pointed out earlier.

I think he’s a bit of a high-floor, low-ceiling kind of guy – somewhat like Kotsay and Erstad were back in the day, as young lefty CF with Gold Glove potential and a solid across-the-board skill set on offense. But at his age, I might be downplaying his ceiling a bit.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Mahoney

Harris is gonna be a good one, and the ridiculous scarcity of CFers should put him pretty high. But he’s probably more of a league-average hitter. There are some Kiermaier-ish properties here, although Kiermaier was probably a better defender (which, that goes for every CFer really) and declined pretty early thanks to the injuries.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Makes me wonder what the positional adjustment looks like now – is it still 2.5 runs for all of 2B, 3B, and CF? It seems like there are a lot more OK 2B and 3B than CF.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Yeah these positional adjustments need some serious tweaking because there are about as many guys who can play a real CF as who can play a real SS. Not sure who loses out in the re-organized version but CF has been a position of scarcity for a while now.

Once robo-umps show up you’ll have to de-emphasize the value for catching too, although how much is unknown.

Ukranian to Vietnamese to French is back
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

OK – you’ve probably heard early, but are you the only ones who can find Penrith and Harros AI? There are 23 motifs on Penurow’s account, and the building is a palace of short legs. Eo was 55 years old, and Harris II was 50. Oh, and Harris II is younger by 2.5 lags. Maeze is the same lukuri, article K, ISO and vrC+. Harris II is a much bigger hitter on the ground, but he is also a stronger hitter. Penrithov’s indomitable Bulus I was fended off from the sidelines, and Harras II was chipped away by a terrific main runner.

“I wouldn’t say I couldn’t,” said Henderson.

*insert Simpsons Dead Dot YPG here*

FunFella13Member since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

FanGraphs needs a mute feature

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  FunFella13

All you morons downvoting me can line up to kiss my ass after I am proven unequivocally correct.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Okay, I think we all need to take a step back and go to our happy places right now…

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Tell that to FunFella. His name is a lie. He’s no fun at all.

Psychic... Powerless...
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

C’mon, you’re better than this.

hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Here’s how you square Peña and Harris: Peña spent at least some time at AAA, and his numbers in MLB are consistent with AAA.
Harris came up straight from AA, and his walk rate decreased by 5.3% and his strikeout rate increased by 4.5%.
Harris has problems recognizing breaking and offspeed pitches, but that will happen when you leap from AA.
Peña has a mild platoon split L/R wRC+ of 139/112.
Harris has a big platoon split L/R wRC+ of 76/143.
He’s a great fielder, he’s young, but the problem with all of this is that you don’t know what you have. Do you have a lefty platoon center fielder who will continue to have problems facing lefties on the mound? Or will he grow into someone who is as comfortable hitting breaking and offspeed pitches in the zone and laying off them out of the zone?

Peña’s error bars are much smaller than Harris’s error bars, and part of that is because Harris is younger than Peña. We have a pretty good idea what Jeremy Peña and a lot of other rookies can do. We don’t know the same for Michael Harris II.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  hughduffy

A 76 wRC+ plus defensive center fielder is playable. If you’re Myles Straw against lefties and Julio Rodriguez against righties, that ain’t bad.

I don’t know how the slightly higher uncertainty makes up for the potential of the youngest player in MLB who is balling out after skipping AAA.

fjtorres
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Depends on how the team values defense.
Philly might beg to differ. 😇

Last edited 4 years ago by fjtorres
hughduffy
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

My point isn’t that Michael Harris II is bad, it’s that his trade value is uncertain. His potential value is quite high, but that’s all it is at the moment. He hasn’t shown that he can consistently lay off those nasty breaking and offspeed pitches that pitchers don’t have at AA.

He’s had 205 PA in MLB, which is 9 more than he had in AA, and he didn’t exactly light up high A ball. This is his most successful year to date, and that not much of a track record. Everyone else on the list, Riley Greene included, has had a longer track record of success

I see the potential. I have a $20 bet with my dad that Money Mike will be batting above .300 at the end of the season. But that doesn’t translate into trade value yet. Maybe by the end of the season.

runningfrog
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Here’s a fun stat comparison.

Julio Rodriguez is at 389 PAs and has accumulated:
18 HR
21 SB
55 R
56 RBI
.274 BA

Prorate the first 205 PAs of Harris’ career to 389 PAs and you get:
17 HR
21 SB
61 R
57 RBI
.286 BA

In addition to Harris’ 6 DRS and rapidly growing defensive highlight reel.

I get that this list of 50 was likely mostly completed a month ago and is just now being rolled out to the site. But if Harris isn’t on it after putting up 2.3 WAR in 53 games (the highest pace of any rookie in baseball)? Well…

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  runningfrog

I swear this is not my burner account…

tomerafan
4 years ago
Reply to  runningfrog

I love Harris. Love. But you can’t extrapolate the first 200 PA to the next 200 PA. The league is adjusting to Harris and with that walk rate and those platoon splits, it’s no sure thing he adjusts back.

I believe he will. Shoot, I was in a chat here last summer and took all kinds of flak when I said that Harris would be in MLB this year. I was literally the high man on him a year ago.

But Peña has much smaller error bars, even if my eyes tell me that Harris will be the more valuable player over the next 6 years.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
4 years ago

Pena definitely deserves to be on this list, but the write-up seemingly doesn’t match the ZiPS projections, eh? It doesn’t read as a player that will peak at 2.8 wins in the next five seasons (especially because that’s his exact fWAR number as of today, and the defense gives him such a high floor to pass that– kinda similar to Hayes).

Luis Matos
4 years ago

Witt and Rutschman should be ahead of Tucker and Buxton in my opinion.

If all 4 are projected to be 4-5 WAR players going forward, wouldn’t you want the ones in their first year of service time? Why would you choose the one on the 15M/year contract or the one about to hit arbitration?

baubo
4 years ago
Reply to  Luis Matos

Yeah that looked weird to me too. My only argument for Tucker/Buxton is that their production is already cemented. They are almost certain to provide you with all-star caliber production when healthy. Rutschman and Witt are projected to improve but that’s still volatile.

Put it another way. Imagine if these 4 players are for some absurd reason all on the market, and the Dodgers/Mets/Yankees are combing through them to see who to get, you’d imagine that Buxton/Tucker probably has slightly higher value. But it’s splitting hairs and I don’t think the trade package would differ much among them regardless.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  Luis Matos

Just comparing the relative WAR projections and salaries that would be true. I’m wondering what else is being considered.

Joe Joe
4 years ago

Kyle Tucker’s ZiPs projection for next season is the highest on this list so far except for Mike Trout and Corbin Burnes. The description of Kyle Tucker’s value as cheap production that could be rated as low as 20th really does not convey that he’s a great player that projections have him as a Top 20 player ROS and likely over the next 3 years regardless of contract situation.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

How great could he be, really, if his own manager won’t bat him in the top half of the order? [/sarcasm]

tung_twista
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

I was going to say the same thing.
If you want to argue that years of control is important so Tucker might go down to 20, then sure, it’s not exact science.
But ‘teams might prefer bona fide superstars’ is an odd reason given the players in today’s list.

mr. N
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

as a houston native and an astros fan, i just want to say/add that tucker is a blast to watch….that is all

pleaseMember since 2025
4 years ago

Did I miss something? Is this a list of players who might get traded this year?

Tucker? Adley? Manoah? Pena? Smith? Albies? Witt Jr?

Oohhh, trade *value*. well, here’s a list of “Player trade values for 2022 that will never get traded in 2022 and who’s value will change in 2023”

These players are on teams that would be crazy to trade these players.

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  please

Boy, are you in the wrong place if you hate idle thought exercises

baubo
4 years ago
Reply to  please

From yesterday’s Kirk writeup

> Now we’re getting to the really good stuff. From here on out (and arguably starting with Valdez, actually), trading for these players is inconceivable in the absence of extreme mitigating circumstances. 

So yes, these players’ trade values are essentially theoretical because they are not getting traded short of a Washington level dumpster fire. And they are noted as such

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  please

Point, meet Mr. Please, who misses you terribly.

dnc
4 years ago
Reply to  please

Did I miss something? 

Yes.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Ke’Bryan Hayes is not going to start lifting the ball with consistency. Much like Eric Hosmer, he looks the part at the plate and the hard-hit numbers look good, but I’m guessing the reason he hasn’t changed his swing already is because he can’t.

I think he’s probably an “even-year Hosmer” type of hitter. Which is 100% fine because Hosmer is a below-average defender at first and Ke’Bryan Hayes is a Matt Chapman-level defender at third. So he probably grades out as a 3.5+ win player thanks to the amazing defense, and that with the contract puts him somewhere on the upper-middle part of this list. And if he gives you an “odd-year Hosmer” you should be happy but I wouldn’t expect it to be a regular thing.

jaysfan39Member
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think Hayes is a clear example of a guy who would have been very undervalued years ago but might now be a little overvalued, I think WAR is a great way of valuing players and comparing different players but I sometimes think it should skew slightly more to hitting then it does. Hayes is going to provide a lot of value with defense and baserunning but if his bat never becomes more then it currently is I don’t know that I would consider him as valuable as his WAR totals will show. A guy who could play slightly above average D at 3rd while being neutral on the bases with 120WRC+ in my opinion is much more valuable then Hayes but they would probably rate out to similar WARs. I just think the hitting is much more representative of true value because it is much harder to consistently quantify defense and base running.

radivel
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He should hit up Vlad for some advice on that, as Vlad had the same problem a while back. After he gets traded to the Jays, of course. 😀

jaysfan39Member
4 years ago
Reply to  radivel

Could he bring Bednar with him haha

gettwobrute79Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  jaysfan39

Sure let’s build us a Bednar for Ricky T deal!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  radivel

Amazingly, Vlad Jr. is a year and a half younger than Hayes is now. It’s not a lock or anything that Hayes is going to stay the same, but if he does change I don’t think it’s going to last.

JSJohnSmithAnon
4 years ago
Reply to  radivel

He still has the problem.

dl80Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  radivel

Jose Ramirez, too

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’ll go the complete opposite direction and say Hayes doesn’t make the list next year. I think it’s unlikely he ever becomes anything more than a league average hitter and even that is probably more like a 60-70% outcome. I don’t see anything in his track record to support anything beyond that. His 195 wRC+ debut was a BABIP fueled mirage. If he truly is a below average hitter, his market will be bare. The defense is legit but the league doesn’t value defense the same way it does offense. Just look at the deal that Kevin Kiermaier signed.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

Totally agree. No one was talking about Hayes as a top 15 asset when he signed his deal this spring, and since then then only thing that’s changed is we have another 450PA of evidence that he’s a below-average hitter.

He plays the best defense at his position, which is in the middle of the defensive spectrum. That’s an ability that is absolutely capped out and will decline with age – is that really someone you want to sell the farm for 8 years of?

At this point in the list, we’re talking what, an FV60 and a couple of FV50s? I’d much rather offer my FV60 Hayes’ contract and keep the 50s, because Hayes looks like a median outcome for a FV60 prospect (which he was).

68FCMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

The contract is what makes him such a valuable asset. His cost is locked in for the next 8 years at “pitcher who just had TJ and is going to miss the year” prices. Even if he is is a 95 wRC+ hitter, the defense will carry him to 3+ WAR which is positive value on that contract. 3B defense seems to age fairly well compared to CF or SS (at least Arenado, Chapman, Jose Ramirez, and Kyle Seager all continued to hold most of their defensive value through 30). There is still the potential for an offensive breakout and even if it is unlikely, there is MVP level upside still there.

With a 120 wRC+, he’s a 5 win player, at 140 wRC+, he’s worth 7 wins. Basically if he can have one season hitting like 2021 Bryan Reynolds, he can be worth that whole contract in one year. It’s not likely to happen, but that upside is valuable and almost no other player has that kind of upside because no one else is signed for as long for as cheap.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  68FC

The contract and there must be legitimate reason to believe he will break out. Otherwise, how is he ahead of Albies? If it’s just the injury, okay. But Hayes and Albies were born 21 days apart. Albies has fairly consistently been a slightly above average hitter and if Hayes edges him on defense, then Albies edges him on the bases.

And Albies deal is markedly better than Hayes’ deal, which should almost be criminal.

The write up says nothing about where he’d be if he were healthy and having a normal season. I’d put him in the backend of the top-10. His profile of a guy that adds value in every dimension (slightly above average offense for a second baseman is valuable!), which gives him a high floor, and dirt-cheap contract make him the safest player on this list to have substantial surplus value. Think about what the Yankees would fork over for one of the best second basemen in baseball, which he has been if you look at pretty much any timeline going back to his second year, and at $7 million AAV for the luxury tax. And of course lower budget teams with longer anticipated windows of contention would do the same.

68FCMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

The Hayes deal is 3 years longer than the Albies deal too. In 2029 he’ll be making $8M. If the next 7 years grow anything like the 7 years as far as salaries go (they have increase by somewhere around 30% since 2015). Then that will be the equivalent of like a $5M contract today. There will probably be several middle relievers on his team making more than him by then.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

That’s a little strong for me. He’s probably better described as an average hitter instead of a below average one.

More to the point: If you have a guy who you think averages 3.5 wins a year for the next 4 years, how much money would you pay for that production over 4 years? $100M? What if I told you it was $60M and you get him for three additional bonus years where he’s probably only average at the end of the deal? Plus a team option if he really beats the odds? No, this is definitely a guy who is on the list next year barring some major changes to his profile. I don’t think he belongs quite this high but it’s hard to imagine him below #40.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He should be on the back end/HM IMO. Especially if you told me literally all of that value is defense. He’s been a below average hitter both last year and this year – the only thing pulling his career line over is that 95PA in 2020 with the .450 BABIP. He’s forecasted as exactly average, but that assumes he’ll be better than he has been.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

I’m worried about the fact that OAA seems to be much more aggressive assigning value to defense than UZR was, so I do think the best guys and worst guys probably need their stats regressed back a bit.

That said, it shouldn’t matter that much how someone is earning their keep. That’s the whole point of WAR.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It shouldn’t matter, but it’s still a black box that I don’t entirely trust. Jonathan Schoop is the best defender in baseball by defensive runs this year. I don’t buy it, and anyone on either extreme of the defensive numbers is getting like a 50% mental discount.

I can easily look at the top 10 offensive players and say, yep, those are pretty much the best ones.

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cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Guys who are getting all their value from defense make me itch, and I wouldn’t pay full price per WAR for it, especially when they aren’t playing a premium position. If Hayes is such a fabulous defender why isn’t he playing shortstop?

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Let’s look at Tommy Edman. He’s 18 months older, and has been (and is projected) better than Hayes both offensively and defensively. If the Cards extend him through 2030 for $100m would he be top 10?

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68FCMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Over his career, Edman has been a slightly worse hitter than Hayes, though is projected to be slightly better. All are within the margins of error though since all four values sit between 100-106 wRC+. Their fielding values are also quite close with any difference almost exactly matching the positional adjustment difference between 3B & SS. The only spot where Edman has clearly outperformed Hayes or is projected to outperform Hayes is as a baserunner, where Edman is currently leading the league in BSR value and has consistently been one of the best baserunners in the league, Hayes is a positive value baserunner, but not an impact one.

The only other key difference is their prospect pedigree. Hayes was a top prospect while Edman was an unheralded late bloomer. Given Edman’s relative age, prospect status, and MLB experience compared to Hayes, it is more likely that Edman is a finished product while Hayes may still have untapped potential. Edman has roughly twice as many MLB PA than Hayes and has accumulated roughly twice as much WAR. Over their careers so far Edman has been worth 4.05 fWAR per 600PA, Hayes is at 4.27 fWAR per 600PA.

On the contract you propose (which would be about $15M more than Hayes is making over the same period) I would imagine he would be somewhere towards the backend of this list or at least an HM. Probably the ceiling for him would be around where Jake Cronenworth placed at #31.

If Hayes figures it out and starts hitting like a star, he jumps straight to #1 similar to Jose Ramirez a few years back, except Hayes contract is even cheaper and longer than Ramirez’s famous bargain contract was. By 2025, Hayes will be making less than Bobby Witt will. The upside on Hayes’ contract is enormous and the downside is almost nothing with the median outcome being significant surplus value even if you discount non-hitting contributions.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  68FC

Using WAR/600 based on the ZiPS rest of season projections (the 3 year projections don’t get updated in-season) Edman is at 4.35 WAR/600 and Hayes is at 3.8. Half a WAR of projections isn’t huge, but it’s significant.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  68FC

I don’t think it’s fair to say the downside on Hayes’ contract is nothing. The downside is he becomes an 80 wRC+ hitter and his defense fades from great to good, which to me seems at least as likely as the upside where he learns to lift the ball without sacrificing anything else and becomes Jose Ramirez.

68FCMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Even that worst case scenario leaves him as like a 1-1.5 WAR player getting paid $7M a year. That is still pretty moveable. There is still the chance that he could get hurt and become basically unplayable (as there is with every player), but even then there are only $70M in guarantees. It’s even frontloaded.

By 2027, $7M will be even less than it is now. All he needs to do is not significantly regress and he has significant surplus value. If he does significantly regress and just becomes dead money then he costs as much as a decent setup man. Evan White has more guaranteed money in 2025. There is no chance this contract becomes an albatross and he is getting paid 60% of Matt Chapman’s arb cost for his prime free agent years.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  68FC

By the same token, there’s no chance pre-arb or arb players become albatrosses. I just think this is way too high for a guy who has never had a season at any level of pro ball that you can point to and say “he’ll be an above average MLB hitter”.

He’s been in pro ball for 8 years and has never hit for any power. I think dreaming on that is fine, but he is what he is as a hitter, and it’s unlikely he’ll be one of the best defenders in the league on the other side of 30 even if you believe he is now.

The contract will never be an albatross. The risk is that you end up with a 2-2.5 WAR player which you could get pretty easily in any given free agent year.

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68FCMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Well the two names next to him on the 3B defense leaderboards are Arenado and Machado who are both on the other side of 30 and are still elite defenders so far. If he can follow that path with the glove, he’s a 3 win player at 1 win prices even if the bat is maxed out now.

He’s going to be one of the lowest paid players in this list over the next 6 years (probably a couple of the pre-arb pitchers are going to blow their arm out) and he’s one of the only players that every team in baseball will be able to fit into their budget without a doubt.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  68FC

I’ll give you Arenado. Machado is more good than great.

I guess this comes off like I hate Hayes, and I don’t. Any team would love to have him. I just don’t see who would give a king’s ransom of prospects.

Huge budget perennial contenders are going to want someone who’s more definitely a star, and not care as much about value or control past a few years. Rebuilding teams and budget contenders would probably rather keep their prospects and hope for an 80th percentile outcome.

If/when he puts up 500PA of 130 wRC+ (or even 115) that’s another story.

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68FCMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Ultimately it’s all a moot point since there is no chance he is getting traded in the next year or two. The contract makes him most valuable to a low budget team that isn’t a contender right now, but hopes to be in a couple years, basically the Pirates. The Pirates will likely trade him before the contract is up, but by the time they do there will be even more of a track record and whatever Hayes is will be mostly settled.

OkraMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Exactly. Hayes hasn’t had a BABIP under .300 yet, but he’s a grounder machine and it’s coming. He’s third base Hosmer with good defense, but teams really don’t pay for defense. Hayes is massively overvalued on this list.

gettwobrute79Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As far as Hayes and changing his swing at all, I’ll believe it when I see it. Especially given the lack of track record this organization has with hitters and a lack of improvement. Which if he doesn’t, you’ve still got a helluva above average regular on a great contract.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  gettwobrute79

I would guess that the Pirates have tried to rework his swing already and he either couldn’t maintain it or it didn’t work. It’s not Neal Huntington’s Pirates anymore.

There are lots of other guys who have changed their swing later in their careers, Daniel Murphy being the most obvious example. But that’s because they didn’t really try before. Guys like Ke’Bryan Hayes were in the minor leagues around the time that everyone started talking about swing changes.

gettwobrute79Member since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If it’s not Neal Huntington’s Pirates anymore, how come they still can’t make any sort of meaningful changes to hitters in terms of development? Hell, the same tendencies are still in place (forcing infielders into outfield spots, clinging to stiffs like Josh Van Meter). I really don’t have a lot of hope this new group will be any better than NH.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Wow, what a crazy limb!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

You can feel free to read that qualifier with the level of sarcasm that brings you the most joy.

Brian McMember since 2020
4 years ago

Did they forget about Tarik Skubal? Lots of cost control, highly rated prospect who’s having a great year. I don’t get it.

SeanMember since 2014
4 years ago
Reply to  Brian Mc

Yeah, Ben said in a comment on an earlier post that Skubal should’ve been an honorable mention. That he was left off was an oversight.

Brian McMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Ah, ok, I missed that but I see it now. Yup, back end of the top 50 or honorable mention makes sense.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Sean

I’d put him in the 30s IMO, along with Spencer Strider. They’ve got a long way to regress and still be stars.

But yeah, he said he literally did forget about Skubal yesterday.

kid
4 years ago

Hayes – I must be missing something. He had an amazing 24-game debut in 2020, batting .376/.442/.682. But in 186 games since then he’s running a ~90 wRC+. ZiPS thinks he’s gonna slug .400 in his peak years.

Buxton – Sure would be nice if there could be a happy medium between the hitter who batted .306 with a .356 OBP last year and this year’s iteration who’s batting .216 with a .291 OBP. I guess you could say that “stats are stats”, but if you’re a Twins fan, if you’re in a pivotal spot in a game and Buxton is coming to the plate… are you excited or are you terrified?

jaysfan39Member
4 years ago
Reply to  kid

Not that I think Buxton is ever going to win a batting title but he is running a 224 BABIP which seems crazy for someone who is 95th percentile in AVG exit velocity and 94th percentile in sprint speed. He is running higher pop up rates and flyball rates then he has in the past so maybe he is selling out for power and his batting average is what to expect moving forward but I still think I would bet the over on him being a true 216 hitter.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  jaysfan39

He very well could be selling out for power as par of his clear and stated effort to not get himself hurt doing silly things like running the bases.

jaysfan39Member
4 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Yeah I did wonder that as it could explain the uptick to his flyballs and popups but even if that were the case I just don’t see how a guy who runs that fast and hits the ball as hard as he does could consistently run such a low BABIP. Either way he has to be one of the funnest players in baseball just a package of top end tools full of extreme outcomes I really hope he has at least one season where he plays 150 games fully healthy and has some BABIP luck and he puts up like a stupid 12 WAR season.

thecodygriffin
4 years ago

I really appreciate the perspective on innings limits and injury risks on pitchers for this years list. I think it is being realistic about pitcher volatility and mirrors the view of most teams nowadays.

Very few pitchers are expected to be 200 IP workhorses (which would have been an oxymoron two decades ago) and 100 to 150 IP seems to have become the norm for most 2 through 4 starters.

kid
4 years ago

When Acuna’s name is (presumably) revealed on the list tomorrow, I wonder how much his current season’s production – or rather, lack of production – will factor into the discussion. If you haven’t checked, Acuna’s current batting line through 300 PA sits at .259/.357/.398. That’s right, last year’s runaway NL MVP through July is slugging .398 with a .139 ISO. Groundballs are way up, pop-ups are way up, HR/FB% is way down, everything power-wise looking bad. There’s been a lot of mention made about his Statcast numbers – which I generally find to be a very useful tool – and how those numbers say he’s “earned” much better than he’s gotten. But I mean… it’s been half a season, we’re no longer talking about a small sample size. Further mention has been made about how we should give him a pass as he’s coming off that catastrophic knee injury last Summer. OK, that might have something to do with it. But didn’t Acuna just get 3 ABs in the ASG, *and* participate in the HR derby? If he’s hurting, shouldn’t the team have rested him? Plus he’s stealing bases like a madman, which seems like a bizarre thing to do on a hurting leg. It seems like more should be made of this story; it’d be like if Mike Trout or Aaron Judge was slugging .400.

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
4 years ago
Reply to  kid

The way the Braves are playing, I’m personally not too concerned with Ronald’s struggles. He’s one hit streak away from turning it around and his hot streaks can be otherworldly. He does look lost at the plate but he’s too talented for it to stay like this for too long.

Blastings! Thrilledge
4 years ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

Ronald? Is he your buddy?

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
4 years ago

It’s his name

dukewinslowMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  kid

I do think the Braves should have sat him down for the ASG but they’ve made it a point to let him be him. Teams should do their damndest to keep guys out of the HR derby, it really damages their swing.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  dukewinslow

There is zero proof of this. Acuña was the leading vote getter in the NL. The fans wanted to see him, and we should remember baseball ultimately is meant to be entertainment for fans.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  dukewinslow

Pete Alonso has not gotten this memo

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  kid

I think the fact that he was a 5+ win player when healthy, that there’s nothing that looks chronic about his current issues, and that he’s under contract forever at a not-expensive rate means he’s Top 3. I’d put him behind Julio for the reason you mention but I wouldn’t make too big of a deal out of it.

Anon21Member since 2018
4 years ago
Reply to  kid

But I mean… it’s been half a season, we’re no longer talking about a small sample size.

Well…no. Half a season is a small sample size. There’s definitely something out of whack right now, but I am not ready to say it’s a change in his skills or expected production going forward. These struggles may in some way be attributable to aftereffects of his injury, whether direct (the fact that he’s stealing bags doesn’t tell the tale–running in a straight line is generally the ability that comes back quickest and most fully) or indirect (timing, feel, mechanics–basically falling out of his rhythm because of the enforced layoff).

sourbob
4 years ago

There are 14 players on this list so far that:
-are older than Nico Hoerner
-have the same or less years of remaining control
-make the same amount of money or more
-have less WAR in 2022

Three of those players have never bested Nico’s YTD fWAR of 3.1 in a full season.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sourbob

Name checks out! Is this where I note that Hoerner actually has more defensive runs this year than Hayes?

florida ron
4 years ago

Where is Nico Hoerner? Sixth in MLB on pace for 5fWar. 25 years old with 3 years of arbitration. Teams would be lining up to trade for him.
You missed one boys.

Left of Centerfield
4 years ago
Reply to  florida ron

I mean, if Andres Gimenez didn’t make the list, it’s hard to see a case for Hoerner.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  florida ron

Have you heard about this center fielder in Atlanta?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

OK, that’s enough for tonight. Time to go and sleep it off.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’m just leaning in as the heel now.

miltonfriedman
4 years ago

Next year:
Manning
Mize
skubal
Greene
Torkelson

All in top 50. I’m calling my shot

HowBoutDemOsMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  miltonfriedman

I would bet every dollar to my name that Casey Mize will not be in the top 50 at this time next year, lol.

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TheGarrettCooperFanClub
4 years ago
Reply to  HowBoutDemOs

Don’t do it to him.

MRDXolMember since 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  miltonfriedman

So to recap:
1) a guy who has thrown all of 8 MLB innings this year due to shoulder problems
2) a guy who underwent TJS a month ago lmao
3) a guy having a breakout year, plausible
4) a guy having a rough rookie year so far
5) a guy having such a rough rookie year he got demoted to AAA lol

Ashburn Alley
4 years ago

This list just keeps getting more ridiculous. Jeremy Pena? You can’t be serious.

hofheinzMember since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  Ashburn Alley

The guy who is out-producing Julio in fWAR/162 this year?

dnc
4 years ago
Reply to  hofheinz

Pena definitely belongs but .036 to .034 is a pretty negligible difference here especially considering the error bars of defensive metrics. I wouldn’t put a ton of stock into that edge.

joelbarlow
4 years ago

Bobby Witt has a .301 OBP and that’s WITH a .301 BABIP. Now it is DeadBall 3 so there’s some adjustment but that’s very concerning

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  joelbarlow

Which still gets him to a 110 wRC+, so an above average hitter if he never improves one iota. Pretty strong baseline for a rook

dnc
4 years ago
Reply to  joelbarlow

A .301 BABIP is low for anyone and very low for the literal fastest player in baseball.

It will go up.

CC AFCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  dnc

No it’s not low for anyone. League average has been around .290 for the last 3 years. And your batted ball distribution matters as much as speed, if not more, and Witt hits a lot of fly balls.

joelbarlow
4 years ago

I guess we should do this tomorrow but Soto is too high.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  joelbarlow

The guy who is about to net a king’s ransom in prospects is too high?

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
4 years ago

On McLanahan’s greatness: “I can see why! He’s a lefty that throws 97.” Does the fact that he’s lefty play a role in this? If so, does that somehow help him?

mikejuntMember
4 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

Because there are less left handed pitchers, its also harder to find left handers who throw at any given velocity. Smaller population = less outliers. In general the average LHP is 1-2 mph slower

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

So how does this benefit McLanahan?

Dmjn53
4 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

it makes his skillset quite literally one of a kind

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
4 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Again, how does him being unique help his value? He’s a starter. If anything, being a eighty might be better.

movatel3195
4 years ago

100%. Despite money being theoretically infinite for these billionaires owners and MLB star talent being very finite, the focus is so often on linking the two as if money somehow matters more than talent.

Jason BMember since 2017
4 years ago
Reply to  movatel3195

That’s a very bold statement friend

bookbookMember since 2024
4 years ago

I absolutely believe that Julio Rodriguez is the most valuable trade piece in MLB today. However, I can see the argument that he won’t be able to retain his newfound speed, or pitchers will find his hole. After all, he’s only been killing major league pitching for 3 months. I’d commit $200 million to a bet that he’ll do just fine over the next 10 years, but There’s some risk there.

TKDCMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  bookbook

Brett Lawrie 2.0!

j/k

diamonddores
4 years ago

watching Witt is so fun. His bat and foot speed is crazy. Seems like he has a legit shot at a 30-30 season in the next few years.

HowBoutDemOsMember since 2019
4 years ago
Reply to  diamonddores

Rutschman, Witt, Rodriguez was a terrific top 3 heading into this season, and they’re all three super fun to watch and look like they’re gonna be awesome. It rocks.

WerthlessMember since 2020
4 years ago

Hitters with poor xwOBA and still making this list (Hayes, Carlson, Arozarena, Cruz) is like putting SPs on the list with bad SIERRAs. Except that it only happens with hitters.

Three out of four of these guys will continue to hit poorly and plunge off the list. Not sure which one will start to hit, but my guess is Cruz.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
4 years ago
Reply to  Werthless

Cruz is still very young and has done it in the minors. Carlson has a 115 wRC+ in his last 900PA and hasn’t turned 24 yet. Arozarena has a career 127 wRC+. Hayes… well, I guess it’s all about the contract and the defense. I hate it.

WerthlessMember since 2020
4 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

My point is that underlying batted ball metrics point to them being weak hitters. They’ve outperformed their weak bat, in the case of Arozarena and Carlson, or have just been mediocre thus far (Hayes and Cruz). A season of 90 wRC+ will open up eyes.

This would be like Odubel Herrera being in the top 30 after 2016.

WerthlessMember since 2020
4 years ago

Would rather have Spencer Strider over a handful of guys in the top 30. Valdez, Hayes, Betts, Bieber.

Dan B
4 years ago

No HM for Willy Adames? I would take him over many of the guys in the 40s.

dennisca
4 years ago

Man said “if you’ve somehow never seen Shane McClanahan pitch” as if we’re all just tuning in to watch Tampa Bay Rays games or as if we’re all American League fans. I never heard of him until he made the All-Star team this year.