2024 Trade Value: Nos. 1-10

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As is tradition at FanGraphs, we’re using the lead-up to the trade deadline to take stock of the top 50 players in baseball by trade value. For a more detailed introduction to this year’s exercise, as well as a look at the players who fell just short of the top 50, be sure to read the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, which can be found in the widget above.

For those of you who have been reading the Trade Value Series the last few seasons, the format should look familiar. For every player, you’ll see a table with the player’s projected five-year WAR from 2025-2029, courtesy of Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections. The table will also include the player’s guaranteed money, if any, the year through which their team has contractual control of them, last year’s rank (if applicable), and then projections, contract status, and age for each individual season through 2029 (assuming the player is under contract or team control for those seasons). Last year’s rank includes a link to the relevant 2023 post. Thanks are due to Sean Dolinar for his technical wizardry. At the bottom of the page, there is a grid showing all of the players who have been ranked up to this point.

A note on the rankings: As we ascend towards the top of the list, the tiers matter more and more. There are clear gaps in value. Don’t get too hung up on what number a player is, because who they’re grouped with is a more important indicator. There are three distinct tiers in today’s group of 10 players, and I think they have clearly different valuations; I’d prefer everyone in a given tier over everyone below it, but I’m far less certain within each group. I’ll note places where I disagreed meaningfully with people I spoke with in calibrating this list, and I’ll also note players whose value was the subject of disagreement among my contacts. As I mentioned in the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, I’ll indicate tier breaks between players where appropriate, both in their capsules and bolded in the table at the end of the piece.

With that out of the way, let’s get to the final batch of players.

Five-Year WAR 18.1
Guaranteed Dollars $78.0 M
Team Control Through 2033
Previous Rank #21
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 30 4.6 $16.0 M
2026 31 4.3 $16.0 M
2027 32 3.6 $16.0 M
2028 33 3.0 $12.5 M
2029 34 2.6 $12.5 M

Every 15 spots or so on this list, I end up writing about how much trouble I have evaluating catchers. That’s less true for the next two players on this list, though. I had an easy time with them. I’m pretty sure that Smith is a robot. He has a 125 wRC+ this year. It’s 121 over the past two years, 124 over the past three, and 125 over the past four. His expected stats barely ever budge. He walks a lot and doesn’t strike out much. He hits for power over average, elevating to all fields, but he does it with a swing designed to maximize contact.

That kind of bat would play at first base just fine, particularly given Smith’s contract. He’s making $126 million over nine years with some deferrals, but the Dodgers have already paid a chunk of that as a signing bonus. Nine years is a long time for a catcher, but $78 million isn’t very much. If you think of it as a four-year deal paying him around $20 million a year, then you’re getting five more years for free on the back end. That’s pretty comparable to Kyle Schwarber in terms of both total offensive output and contract. But, uh, Smith is a catcher.

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And right now, he’s a fairly good catcher. That hasn’t always been the case, but Smith has worked hard at his craft throughout the years. He’s average at controlling the running game at this point. He’s a below-average receiver, but not by much, and getting a first baseman’s bat out of a reasonable defensive catcher almost feels like a cheat code given the state of catcher offense across the majors.

It’s unlikely that Smith will keep up this pace into his mid-30s. Catching wears on you more than any other position. I think he took the Dodgers’ extension offer because he wasn’t going to hit the market until after next year, and that’s just too late to get an enormous deal as a free agent. But again, Smith is a good enough hitter that his overall value to the team isn’t tied to his ability to play incredible defense, and I think that gives him a big cushion.

By WAR, Smith has been the best catcher in baseball for the last half-decade; per the projections, only Adley Rutschman has a clear edge on him going forward. His skill set feels safer to me than catchers who rack up massive value with their receiving. He and the next three players on the list could go in any order without much argument from me.

Five-Year WAR 21.7
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank #5
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 27 5.0 Arb 1
2026 28 4.6 Arb 2
2027 29 4.4 Arb 3
Arb

The Orioles didn’t overthink the 2019 draft, and their reward was a perennial All-Star who has done nothing but succeed since day one. Rutschman crashed onto the major league scene in 2022, jump-starting Baltimore’s arrival as a playoff contender, and all he’s done since then is hit. I guess he’s done a little bit of playing defense, too, but the team has DH’ed him quite a bit to keep him fresh. He’s a key offensive cog, after all, and catching leads to days off.

That left me in a bit of a bind when it came to placing him, because Rutschman’s WAR has certainly taken a hit from all that DH’ing. The O’s have mostly done it when they want to sit Ryan O’Hearn against a lefty, so it hasn’t impacted their offense too much, but Rutschman’s overall value is obviously lowered when he moves from the toughest position to the easiest. He’s a plus defender, but he’s having a down year behind the dish, and it wouldn’t shock me if consistency has a part to play in that.

Luckily, Rutschman is in the same boat as Smith: He hits so well that his offense would be valuable anywhere. He has a remarkably similar offensive profile: solid approach, solid contact skills, and plenty of power. He’s a switch-hitter, which makes him hard to plan for. He mashes fastballs and adjusts to everything else with aplomb. He’s chasing a hair too much this year, but that feels like an ebbs-and-flows kind of thing instead of a sea change. I didn’t talk to a single person who was worried about his offense.

Despite Baltimore’s roster-based shenanigans, I’m evaluating Rutschman’s trade value as a full-time catcher. He’s around for three more years after this at arbitration salaries, and I think that most teams would prefer that he don the tools of ignorance as much as possible to maximize the pickup over his poor-hitting backstop counterparts. Having a catcher with this much thump changes the length of your lineup.

If you wanted to knock both Rutschman and Smith down a peg or two on these rankings because catchers have more inherent uncertainty than other position players, I wouldn’t fight you too much. But they also have scarcity value, and both of these guys are top-notch hitters at a position with an aggregate 92 wRC+ on the year. Improving a weak link matters a ton to me, which is why I’d trade a small fortune in prospects to get either of these guys on my team.

Five-Year WAR 24.7
Guaranteed Dollars $96.3 M
Team Control Through 2028
Previous Rank #9
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 28 5.6 $15.8 M
2026 29 5.5 $26.8 M
2027 30 5.1 $26.8 M
2028 31 4.6 $26.8 M

It’s wild to me how underrated Alvarez still is, but I think I understand why. Our brains tend to lump things into broad categories and treat everything in that category the same. Having put Alvarez in the “great hitter” bucket, the degree to which he stands out relative to his peers in that group can get lost. But Alvarez isn’t just a great hitter; he’s a really great hitter, even compared to the other standouts.

Alvarez has the second-best batting line among active players, behind only Aaron Judge. He’s batting .297/.389/.581 for his career, a 164 wRC+. He’s posted a 159 wRC+ so far this year. His worst season was 2021, when he posted a 137 wRC+ a year removed from season-ending knee surgery. Bryce Harper’s career wRC+ is 143, and he’s one of the best hitters in baseball. Alvarez is a cut above in a way that doesn’t quite compute.

Another way of putting it? Take a look at those ZiPS projections. ZiPS knows Alvarez is mainly a DH, it just thinks that his offense more than makes up for it. Models work in inscrutable ways, but it’s not exactly hard to see what it likes. Alvarez’s swing allows him to cover the entire strike zone with massive power. Weirdly, it’s not even optimized for the short porch in Houston; he only has one Crawford Box homer this year, and a single-digit total for his career. He just smashes the ball so hard that where the walls are doesn’t matter. He’s a bat speed god, and he squares the ball up at a crazy rate too. When you think you’ve found a hole in his swing, he’ll turn a pitch thrown to that hole into a 400-foot homer at the drop of a hat.

Am I worried about Alvarez’s lack of defensive value? I mean, yeah, theoretically. If he were a shortstop, clearly I’d like him more. But you’d play this bat anywhere, regardless of cost, and be deliriously happy. There are 16 hitters in history with a higher career wRC+ than Alvarez, and only four (Bonds, Mantle, Judge, Trout) from the post-integration era. Sure, it’ll head down with time, but we’re not just talking about a plus bat. We’re talking about a hitter who is one of the best of all time.

Alvarez’s knees give people pause, and I’ll level with you: I’m not confident that he’s going to be an amazing hitter when he’s 36. He needs to keep mashing to provide any value; when he stops hitting, he’ll stop playing. But he’s 27 right now, and his contract takes him through his age-31 season at a below-market rate. If you know ball, you know that Alvarez is a capital-D dude, and he’s on an excellent contract too.

Five-Year WAR 27.2
Guaranteed Dollars $630.0 M
Team Control Through 2033
Previous Rank #25
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 30 7.0 $70.0 M
2026 31 6.4 $70.0 M
2027 32 5.7 $70.0 M
2028 33 4.5 $70.0 M
2029 34 3.5 $70.0 M

More than one person I asked about Ohtani just laughed. Does Ohtani even have trade value? He has a no-trade clause and hand picked his destination. He suggested his contract terms. He’s not a Dodger because they blew the other suitors out of the water in a wild bidding spree; he’s a Dodger because he wanted to be one and made it work. Even more so than all the guys on this list who aren’t getting traded, Ohtani isn’t getting traded.

I’ll tell you what I told those people: This series is entertainment, and speculating about trading Ohtani is definitely entertaining. He’s making the most money in the game (albeit not by a huge amount thanks to the deferrals), and I’m confident that teams would still back up the prospect truck for him if he were somehow made available.

All that praise about Alvarez up above? I think that Ohtani is probably a better hitter. He’s improving with time, and this year, with no pitching to worry about, he’s setting the league on fire. He hits home runs to parts of Dodger Stadium that I didn’t even know existed. He’s power incarnate, and he’s adept at getting to that power by hunting fastballs. He adjusts well to soft stuff, and he’s so strong that he frequently gets fooled, keeps his hands back, and sort of wrist-flips the ball into the seats anyway. He’s fast, too, and consistently adds value with his baserunning. He’s always going to rack up his fair share of strikeouts, because his swing is vicious and he’s aggressive early in the count, but that’s a tradeoff anyone would take given what happens when he connects.

Oh yeah, and he’s gonna start pitching again soon too. I think that 2024 has alleviated concerns around what would happen if Ohtani had to give up pitching, because it seems like a greater focus on hitting (even while still rehabbing his elbow) is working for him. I think he’d be a plus corner outfielder right away, and maybe an elite one with time. But he has also posted a five-win season on the mound, and has the career numbers (3.01 ERA, 3.31 FIP) of an upper-echelon starter.

Then there’s the marketing piece, which is tricky to precisely account for, but which would absolutely drive Ohtani’s market. He’s the biggest star in the game by a ton, and beyond the revenue, there’s the cultural cachet of having a player who’s recognizable to sports fans who might not be baseball diehards in your organization. If you aren’t willing to pay Ohtani $46 million a year (NPV’ing the deferrals), what are you doing running a baseball team? The top salaries in baseball are artificially suppressed by the previous top salaries – everyone one-ups the last guy by just a little. Every team loves to stack up cost-suppressed players going through arbitration, but they don’t hand out trophies for the most surplus value — they hand them out for being the best baseball team. Save elsewhere and use your cash to add Ohtani. I mean, you can’t, because he’s never getting traded – but if you could, you should.

Five-Year WAR 24.4
Guaranteed Dollars $306.0 M
Team Control Through 2034
Previous Rank #8
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 26 5.0 $20.7 M
2026 27 5.1 $20.7 M
2027 28 4.9 $25.7 M
2028 29 4.8 $25.7 M
2029 30 4.5 $36.7 M

I’m alone on an island on this one, and I might as well acknowledge it right up top. I was the highest on Tatis out of every team source I checked with. The overall list is shaped by the views of people I talk to, but this ranking was absolutely not. I just think that Tatis is a young star who you can have around for the next decade, and I’d give up a lot to add that guy to my team.

The downsides are obvious. The injuries. The PED suspension. The position change. It’s not hard to imagine how this could pan out poorly. Tatis might be “just” a corner outfielder with a bat that’s 25% better than average, and with some availability concerns. There’s no way around that fact. If you trade for him, you’re assuming that risk.

I think the reward is worth it, personally. Tatis was one of the best hitters in baseball before he missed the 2022 season, and after a down year in 2023, he’s heating up again. His plate discipline gets better every year. He’s belligerently aggressive in the strike zone and spits at tough breaking balls and changeups. He’s trying to hit everything for a homer, which makes for some swing-and-miss, but also makes for loud contact to all parts of the ballpark in all counts. He’s in the 90th percentile or higher in basically every Statcast metric you can imagine: xwOBA, xBA, xSLG, xOBP, barrel rate, exit velocity, maximum exit velocity, hard-hit rate — the list goes on.

He’s also just 25. He picked up a new position on the fly while rehabbing from a major injury and won a Platinum Glove in his first year there. Fine, I think advanced defensive statistics overrated him last year, but I think they’ve underrated him this year – they’re noisy in both directions. He’s played at a borderline MVP candidate pace throughout his career despite all kinds of turbulence. He’s always going to be injury prone, it seems – he’s on the IL right now, in fact. But I’m willing to gamble on these injuries costing him months (like this season and in 2019) instead of years (2022) in the future.

I get that there’s risk. I get that this ranking isn’t reflective of what most major league teams would offer for Tatis. That’s why these are my rankings, though. In a world where you could actually trade for these players and I ran a team, I’d end up with Tatis, because I value him more than most of the league. And hey, all it takes is one GM who thinks like I do. Oh yeah, one quick note on tiers: I have Tatis and the next three guys clustered pretty close. There was a lot of order-switching, so don’t read too much into that; the important thing is that I think they’re the sixth- through third-best trade values in baseball.

Five-Year WAR 23.7
Guaranteed Dollars $180.0 M
Team Control Through 2037*
Previous Rank #3
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 24 4.8 $20.2 M
2026 25 4.9 $20.2 M
2027 26 4.8 $20.2 M
2028 27 4.7 $20.2 M
2029 28 4.5 $20.2 M

A quick note here: Meg and I had some initial ranking-related panic over Rodríguez’s IL placement, but while the Mariners don’t seem inclined to rush him back, the injury also doesn’t seem to be season-ending or anything, and we’re proceeding under that assumption. You can consider this ranking provisional if you’d like, but sometimes people run into walls and twist their ankle; it happens.

With that out of the way, here’s another Tatis-ian player, and again, I don’t particularly mind if you want to shuffle the order of this group around a bit. The pitch here is simple: You’re getting a young superstar who averages about 5 WAR per 600 plate appearances and is only 23. You’re getting him for a long time, at a… well, at a confusing rate. Rodríguez is making $18 million a year for the next five years, and then the team has an option (hence the asterisk above) that works out to something like eight years at $32.5 million a year, depending on how award voting goes in the next half decade. Julio has an option of his own if the team declines theirs, at $18 million a year for five years. It’s a contract that an interest rates structuring specialist would love, and I’d know because I used to be one.

Rodríguez is having a down year at the plate, and he’s been tremendously streaky so far in his major league career, so you can look at his metrics at a given point in time and say, “Woof, the last month was awful.” That said, he’s been awfully consistent over time on the process side. He’s an aggressive hitter with plenty of swing-and-miss in his game, but that’s how he taps into his power. I think he’s probably a 130-135 wRC+ true talent guy in the long run, but with fairly wide error bars around that. He’s sure to have stretches where he looks unstoppable and stretches where he looks lost. I certainly wouldn’t bet on Rodríguez ascending to Yordanian levels of offensive prowess, but I agree with projection systems that there’s certainly some upside potential here.

I have Rodríguez ahead of Tatis for a few reasons. First, the absolute fail case doesn’t sting quite as much thanks to his contract structure. Second, I like his defense more. He’s a plus center fielder, maybe even an elite one, which provides a nice value floor even when he isn’t hitting. Third, there’s less injury risk here, which matters a lot when you’re paying hundreds of millions of dollars in salary. I’m less excited about his offense, which balances the scales somewhat, but even I, the high man on Tatis, would take Rodríguez if I had to choose between them. Julio has been the face of the franchise since the moment he inked his contract extension; he’s beloved by fans in Seattle. Young stars are in short supply. Young stars you can keep for a decade are even rarer. That’s why they’re here, at the top of the list, even with big monetary outlays attached.

Five-Year WAR 24.5
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2029
Previous Rank #6
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 23 4.3 Pre-Arb
2026 24 4.8 Pre-Arb
2027 25 5.0 Arb 1
2028 26 5.3 Arb 2
2029 27 5.1 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

I’m not proud of it, but I read the comments. No offense to you all – you’re lovely, most of you – but the comments section is just a toxic place. Even so, the outright disdain that the majority of the commentariat had for De La Cruz’s placement last year far exceeded the normal amount of naysaying that goes on. To paraphrase Mitch Hedberg, you can’t please all the people all the time, and all those people were in last year’s comments to talk about Elly.

Anyway, De La Cruz is one of the best players in baseball. He’s up to 5.1 WAR on the year, driven by some (in my opinion) irresponsibly rosy defensive value estimates, but he’s slugging .500 and posting one of the great baserunning seasons of the 21st century. He was born in 2002, a fact that I can barely wrap my head around. He’s still a work in progress, obviously, but he’s one of the best players in baseball already. That’s the dream: To have your uber-talented young superstar already breaking out in the majors when most phenoms are getting their first taste of Triple-A.

Mike Petriello wrote a nice breakdown of De La Cruz’s defense, but to be honest with you, I think Statcast is a little high on him. Still, he’s making the kinds of errors that good defenders make when they’re young, and the range and arm give me confidence that he’s going to be a standout in the long run. He’s still a far better hitter lefty than righty, but he’s improving there too. Switch-hitters often take longer to develop; again, he’s only 22.

If you’re looking for someone who could be the best player in baseball in the next few years, you have a decent range of options. If you’re looking for someone who could be the best player in baseball and is also currently only making $750,000 a year, the list is three players long, and Elly’s one of them. The other two? Read on. De La Cruz is right on the cusp of not even qualifying for Super Two status (to be clear, I don’t think the Reds were playing games here; his rise through the minors was meteoric and they gave him every opportunity to advance). He might still be making around the league minimum in 2026!

Last year, I had De La Cruz absolutely stuffed on this list as a bet on talent. An unbiased accounting would have had him lower; I just thought I was right and the consensus was wrong. This year, he’s ranked where he is because he’s just that good.

Five-Year WAR 14.9
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2030*
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 23 2.6 Pre-Arb
2026 24 2.9 Pre-Arb
2027 25 3.1 Arb 1
2028 26 3.1 Arb 2
2029 27 3.1 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

I like to paraphrase my team sources instead of quoting them, but I had to put this one in here verbatim: “If you don’t put Paul Skenes number one, I’ll email Meg and tell her to fire you.” If I’m not writing here come Monday morning, I guess you’ll know what happened. I started this process with Skenes meaningfully lower, but a) he’s put up a 1.53 ERA with 44 strikeouts in 35 innings in the last month and b) a bunch of people I think are really smart told me, “Skenes is too low, you dummy.” So let’s investigate why I started low and finished high.

Pitching is volatile and breakable, as I mention over and over again every year. UCLs are fragile, and to add insult to injury, there are other parts of the arm that are prone to getting hurt too. It’s rough out there. Starters throw fewer innings than ever; overall pitching value is getting spread out over more and more guys. Counting on a single pitcher to churn out elite value for years on end is a sucker’s bet.

The odds have never been this good, though. Skenes is a rookie. He’s probably the best pitcher in baseball right now. He theoretically has six more years of team control after this one, though if he finishes in the top two in Rookie of the Year voting, you can lop that down to five (hence the asterisk in the table above). The point is, he costs roughly nothing, he’ll be around for forever, and there is no one better than him at what he does right now. It’s not like the thing he’s best at is niche, either. It’s literally PITCHING.

Models are going to be skeptical, though they’re changing fast; a third of Skenes’ professional innings pitched have occurred in the last month. But watch this guy, and you’ll figure it out pretty quickly. He’s dominant, and it’s immediately obvious to everyone on the field. His peripherals back it up. There are no red flags. If money and team control were no object and I had to pick one pitcher to win one game, I’d pick Skenes, and you probably would too.

That’s enough to vault him to dizzying trade value heights. The only reason it didn’t put him first on the list, potential firing notwithstanding, is because pitching is fundamentally less stable than hitting. I don’t know if Skenes will stay healthy, and if he does get hurt, I don’t how much longer he’ll pitch before something breaks. It’s impossible to know what he’d look like afterwards if that happened. Tell me a 22-year-old hitter posted a five-win season, and I expect his age-26 season to be similar. I’m far less certain about a pitcher in that spot.

Still, trade value is concentrated in the present, because everyone’s future is unknowable and contingent. Right now, Skenes is the best in the business. He’s getting paid the league minimum for it. Every team in baseball would try to acquire him if they could, and some of them would offer a truly eye-watering array of prospects and current contributors to bring him into the fold. I tiered him with Elly and the big-contract young guys, but to be clear, I think that the industry consensus would have him a hair higher than that, in a group by himself and just below the top two.

Five-Year WAR 28.4
Guaranteed Dollars $279.0 M
Team Control Through 2030
Previous Rank #36
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 25 5.7 $7.7 M
2026 26 5.8 $13.7 M
2027 27 5.7 $19.7 M
2028 28 5.7 $30.7 M
2029 29 5.5 $35.7 M

The top two players on this list were nearly indistinguishable to me, and I’m happy to say that both teams and FanGraphs personnel felt similarly. It’s not that half of them had one guy and half had the other; plenty of people told me explicitly that they were essentially tied for first. My model-driven ranking had them almost exactly tied, and as I dug in further, nothing changed that initial opinion.

It’s pretty easy to explain what everyone likes about Witt. He’s a great hitter who plays excellent defense at a premium position, and he’s 24. It took him a while to get acclimated to the majors, but starting last July, he’s been on a white-hot tear. He’s slugging .593 in one of the toughest parks in the majors for home runs, getting on base at a .390 clip, and oh yeah, he’s the fastest player in baseball to boot.

I think you should be skeptical of Witt continuing his current torrid pace — after all, he’s absolutely on a heater right now. But I expect him to post lines that are 30-50% better than average for years to come. It’s Mookie Betts-level offense, albeit in a different way, where he might spike some impressive seasons and the floor is also quite high. ZiPS projects Witt for the second-most WAR in baseball over the next five years, and the only guy ahead of him is number one on this list.

His contract isn’t quite as much of a tailwind as you’d expect given his age and the fact that it could theoretically extend through 2037. He has an opt out after each year from 2030 through 2033, and if he hits his median projections, he’d probably be able to make more money by doing so. That kind of contingent risk hurts a little. The future is wildly unknowable. The very best Witt outcomes probably mean this contract will end in 2030, though that’s still forever away and he could always sign a new deal with the Royals; he seems keen to stay in Kansas City. The worst result in him staying longer. I’d have Witt number one if he were on Rodríguez’s contract, but this one isn’t bad by any means. You’d love to have the guy who might be the best player in baseball for this long at these prices.

Five-Year WAR 30.6
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2028
Previous Rank #7
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2025 24 5.9 Pre-Arb
2026 25 6.2 Arb 1
2027 26 6.3 Arb 2
2028 27 6.2 Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb

The only reason people aren’t more amazed by Henderson is that we’re spoiled for absolutely elite youngsters right now, but goodness gracious, this guy is good. He’s a plus shortstop, though not at Witt’s level, and he’s also a spectacularly complete hitter. He has a great approach at the plate. He makes bruising contact to all fields, with deadly bat speed and a level swing that doesn’t give pitchers anywhere to hide. He’s the third-best player in baseball when it comes to runs added per secondary pitch seen, so it’s not like you can just cheese him with sliders. He’s improved at absolutely everything in the last year, and he was already a five-win player.

Trying to project a ceiling for Henderson is a pointless exercise. It’s really high, and why should you care exactly where it is? If he never changes, he’s a perennial MVP candidate. A good-variance year for him might be absolutely mind-bending – 50 bombs and a Gold Glove at shortstop, or something along those lines. I’d take Ohtani ahead of him as the best player in the game, but the models wouldn’t, and either way, he’s clearly one of the top few.

This is a trade value series, not a name the top players list, so let’s talk about Henderson’s contract status. It’s great, and I don’t have much more to say than that. He’ll qualify for arbitration after next season, then play three more years on arb salaries before hitting free agency. That’s four (relatively) cheap years of the best production there is, and I’d throw in some bonus value for the chance to sign him to a contract extension that guarantees him nine figures while leaving some juice in it for the signing team.

This series is often an exercise in deciding what you can live without. Player A’s contract is bad, Player B is headed into age-related decline, Player C is having a down season, and Player D’s value comes largely from defense. Now sort them! You can never have everything. But in Henderson’s case, maybe you can. He checks every box, and most of them emphatically. This trade value list, my personal list, has some places where I disagreed with the various intelligent baseball people I consulted. It has some opinions that I’m sure would make them call me mean names if they weren’t so nice. But this wasn’t one of those places. Everyone loves Gunnar (and Bobby).

2024 Trade Value, 1-50
Rk Pv Player Age 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029
1 7 Gunnar Henderson 23 5.9
Pre-Arb
6.2
Arb 1
6.3
Arb 2
6.2
Arb 3
2 36 Bobby Witt Jr. 24 5.7
$7.7 M
5.8
$13.7 M
5.7
$19.7 M
5.7
$30.7 M
5.5
$35.7 M
3 HM Paul Skenes 22 2.6
Pre-Arb
2.9
Pre-Arb
3.1
Arb 1
3.1
Arb 2
3.1
Arb 3
4 6 Elly De La Cruz 22 4.3
Pre-Arb
4.8
Pre-Arb
5.0
Arb 1
5.3
Arb 2
5.1
Arb 3
5 3 Julio Rodríguez 23 4.8
$20.2 M
4.9
$20.2 M
4.8
$20.2 M
4.7
$20.2 M
4.5
$20.2 M
6 8 Fernando Tatis Jr. 25 5.0
$20.7 M
5.1
$20.7 M
4.9
$25.7 M
4.8
$25.7 M
4.5
$36.7 M
7 25 Shohei Ohtani 29 7.0
$70.0 M
6.4
$70.0 M
5.7
$70.0 M
4.5
$70.0 M
3.5
$70.0 M
8 9 Yordan Alvarez 27 5.6
$15.8 M
5.5
$26.8 M
5.1
$26.8 M
4.6
$26.8 M
9 5 Adley Rutschman 26 5.0
Arb 1
4.6
Arb 2
4.4
Arb 3
10 21 Will Smith 29 4.6
$16.0 M
4.3
$16.0 M
3.6
$16.0 M
3.0
$12.5 M
2.6
$12.5 M
11 1 Ronald Acuña Jr. 26 5.3
$17.0 M
5.2
$17.0 M
4.8
$17.0 M
4.5
$17.0 M
12 15 Michael Harris II 23 3.5
$8.0 M
3.8
$8.0 M
3.7
$9.0 M
3.8
$10.0 M
3.8
$10.0 M
13 HM Riley Greene 23 4.4
Pre-Arb
4.7
Arb 1
4.8
Arb 2
4.6
Arb 3
14 HM Jackson Merrill 21 3.1
Pre-Arb
3.5
Pre-Arb
3.8
Arb 1
4.1
Arb 2
4.1
Arb 3
15 4 Corbin Carroll 23 4.5
$5.6 M
4.3
$10.6 M
4.4
$12.6 M
4.1
$14.6 M
4.1
$28.6 M
16 16 Logan Webb 27 4.5
$12.0 M
4.1
$23.0 M
3.9
$23.0 M
3.4
$24.0 M
17 19 José Ramírez 31 5.0
$19.0 M
4.3
$21.0 M
3.4
$23.0 M
2.5
$25.0 M
18 13 Austin Riley 27 4.5
$22.0 M
4.0
$22.0 M
3.8
$22.0 M
3.2
$22.0 M
2.5
$22.0 M
19 Aaron Judge 32 6.4
$40.0 M
5.3
$40.0 M
4.3
$40.0 M
3.1
$40.0 M
2.1
$40.0 M
20 HM Mookie Betts 31 5.3
$25.0 M
4.4
$25.0 M
3.7
$25.0 M
2.8
$30.0 M
2.0
$30.0 M
21 Cole Ragans 26 2.7
Pre-Arb
2.7
Arb 1
2.6
Arb 2
2.4
Arb 3
22 26 George Kirby 26 3.9
Arb 1
3.7
Arb 2
3.6
Arb 3
3.3
Arb 4
23 33 Logan Gilbert 27 4.2
Arb 2
3.8
Arb 3
3.4
Arb 4
24 Tarik Skubal 27 3.8
Arb 2
3.6
Arb 3
25 Jackson Chourio 20 2.0
$4.3 M
2.5
$7.3 M
2.6
$8.3 M
2.8
$9.3 M
3.0
$15.3 M
26 HM Patrick Bailey 25 3.4
Pre-Arb
3.4
Arb 1
3.3
Arb 2
3.3
Arb 3
2.9
Arb 4
27 HM William Contreras 26 3.6
Arb 1
3.5
Arb 2
3.2
Arb 3
28 14 Luis Robert Jr. 26 2.9
$15.0 M
2.9
$20.0 M
2.9
$20.0 M
29 Jordan Westburg 25 3.9
Pre-Arb
4.0
Pre-Arb
4.0
Arb 1
4.1
Arb 2
3.5
Arb 3
30 Steven Kwan 26 3.6
Arb 1
3.2
Arb 2
3.0
Arb 3
31 Masyn Winn 22 3.1
Pre-Arb
3.2
Pre-Arb
3.4
Arb 1
3.8
Arb 2
3.8
Arb 3
32 CJ Abrams 23 3.2
Arb 1
3.4
Arb 2
3.4
Arb 3
3.5
Arb 4
33 23 Francisco Alvarez 22 2.5
Pre-Arb
2.8
Arb 1
3.0
Arb 2
3.3
Arb 3
34 Gabriel Moreno 24 3.8
Pre-Arb
3.8
Arb 1
3.7
Arb 2
3.7
Arb 3
35 50 James Wood 21 2.4
Pre-Arb
2.8
Pre-Arb
3.1
Pre-Arb
3.5
Arb 1
3.6
Arb 2
36 Wyatt Langford 22 2.6
Pre-Arb
2.9
Pre-Arb
3.0
Arb 1
3.1
Arb 2
2.9
Arb 3
37 HM Jackson Holliday 20 3.3
Pre-Arb
3.7
Pre-Arb
4.1
Pre-Arb
4.4
Arb 1
4.7
Arb 2
38 27 Anthony Volpe 23 3.0
Pre-Arb
3.2
Arb 1
3.4
Arb 2
3.5
Arb 3
39 HM Ezequiel Tovar 22 3.1
$4.2 M
3.3
$5.2 M
3.7
$8.2 M
3.8
$11.2 M
3.9
$14.2 M
40 38 Zach Neto 23 2.6
Pre-Arb
2.9
Arb 1
3.2
Arb 2
3.2
Arb 3
3.4
Arb 4
41 Bryce Harper 31 3.8
$27.5 M
3.2
$27.5 M
2.5
$27.5 M
1.9
$27.5 M
1.3
$23.5 M
42 HM Corey Seager 30 4.7
$32.5 M
4.1
$31.5 M
3.3
$31.5 M
2.5
$31.5 M
1.7
$31.5 M
43 HM Ketel Marte 30 4.5
$16.6 M
3.8
$16.6 M
3.0
$14.6 M
2.4
$13.0 M
44 HM Francisco Lindor 30 5.4
$34.1 M
4.9
$34.1 M
4.2
$34.1 M
3.2
$34.1 M
2.4
$34.1 M
45 Jared Jones 22 2.2
Pre-Arb
2.4
Pre-Arb
2.4
Arb 1
2.4
Arb 2
2.4
Arb 3
46 Grayson Rodriguez 24 2.2
Pre-Arb
2.2
Pre-Arb
2.2
Arb 1
2.1
Arb 2
2.0
Arb 3
47 Tanner Bibee 25 2.9
Pre-Arb
2.8
Arb 1
2.7
Arb 2
2.5
Arb 3
48 41 Hunter Greene 24 2.5
$6.3 M
2.5
$8.3 M
2.5
$15.3 M
2.3
$16.3 M
2.3
$21.0 M
49 HM Justin Steele 28 3.2
Arb 2
2.9
Arb 3
2.7
Arb 4
50 MacKenzie Gore 25 2.1
Arb 1
2.1
Arb 2
2.0
Arb 3
Pre-Arb
Arb
Team Option





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago

Yay! My favorite series every year!

Thank you!

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago

Yes, agree. Thank you Ben.

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago

Tatis at #6 is going to generate more hot takes than the rest of this series combined. Just going to say that and leave it there.

I would have Will Smith over Rutchman because Smith puts up extremely similar value on a long-term cheap deal. The surplus value is just so high. Also, Adley puts up much greater offensive value as a DH than as a Catcher (career 154 wRC+ vs 117), and does it a lot more often than Smith does (more than twice the PA in half the number of seasons). As a catcher, Smith is superior. It’s a very small difference between them, but it’s there.

Thanks so much for all your hard work on this series, Ben. I know we like to quibble, but the amount of effort that goes into this is amazing.

Last edited 2 years ago by EonADS
Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

While I definitely don’t agree with it, I know that Fangraphs is higher on Tatis than everyone else. It’s hard to be outraged about something that I knew was coming, and Tatis was always going to make the top 10 on this list

BirdStackMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

Adley DHs versus mostly lefties, because McCann is a more palatable at the plate vs lefties. I don’t believe the DH C split is a multi year thing, and this year it’s hard to differentiate between it just being a platoon split

BirdStackMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

Also, Adley has graded out better defender at Catcher than Will Smith the last two years, but not this year so far. Catcher’s age curve can be steep as well, which having Adley with less wear and tear can be an advantage

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  BirdStack

It basically has to be a multi-year thing? A bit less than a third of Adley’s career PA have come as a DH. He did it about as much as he’s projected to in 2024 last year too (about a third of his total PA), and only less the year prior because he played fewer games. He spends a lot of time DHing relative to Smith, specifically, but also in general.

And while the wear-and-tear argument is fine, it also means you’re getting less of his elite defense at arguably the most valuable defensive position. I think having your super-valuable player take his cuts while playing some of the best defense in the league matters more, even with the massive split in his outcomes. He’s still a 117 wRC+ as a catcher, which is stupid valuable with his defense. Honestly, Smith would be better suited to take the Adley route because he also performs much better as a DH (162 wRC+ vs 125 as a catcher, career) without the insane defense. If Adley caught more, or Smith DH’d more, it wouldn’t really be a conversation.

BirdStackMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

You can’t just look at how he has hit as a catcher and say that’s what his wrc+ would be as only a catcher, because 1) that’s not how it works, 2) the aforementioned platooning of McCann allowing Adley to DH more against Lefties that he hits better, and 3) he DHs so much so that he can play an entire 650 PA instead of 450.

Last edited 2 years ago by BirdStack
RobertMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

I go opposite here because of age and because I think it’s merely current roster construction that has him doing this. I suspect in the future he may catch more and could get better at it.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

Yeah, Tatis at #6 is weird, but more because Ben’s criteria are so idiosyncratic and contradictory. Ohtani is not getting traded, whereas I think the Padres would be thrilled to trade Tatis if someone offered a good package. Devers not making the list over several relievers is weirdER, imo, but less spicy, I suppose. I don’t have inside info, but would teams really prefer Harris II to Devers?

Last edited 2 years ago by Smiling Politely
padrepapi
2 years ago

Saying the Padres would be thrilled to trade Tatis is very far removed from reality.

He’s easily their most popular player, and biggest draw to the ballpark. Keep that in mind considering there is only one team out drawing them by any significant margin these past several years, the LAD.

His Jersey was the 4th best selling one in 2023 and 8th best in 2024.

They’re paying him 100m over the 5 year period of 2024-2028. A bargain for what he brings to the table in revenue and production.

There are numerous players the Padres I am sure would love to trade for some salary relief, but Tatis isn’t one of them.

spoonful
2 years ago
Reply to  padrepapi

Yay – Go pink Padres jerseys you bully you

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago

With Harris, potentially. Even average offense (which is what Harris’ underlying numbers this year predict) in a CF at that price is really valuable, especially over such a long term. Devers has a big contract and while he’s not 1B/DH only, he’s also not a good defender, and his hitting has been more “top 20” than “unquestionably elite”, per Ben’s chat earlier.

I don’t necessarily agree with it, but that’s why I don’t work for a FO, I guess.

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

Every year, when another cautionary example of an elite glove with average bat being overvalued because of an attractive contract reveals itself, you see writers admitting to assigning too much value to an attractive contract and announcing they’re making an adjustment to their valuation.

Why isn’t Daulton Varsho, an elite CF with an average bat and the same value as Harris in 2024, except actually an elite CF compared to Harris, even mentioned, but Harris is high up the list and people saying they’d consider him over Tatis? Ditto for Brenton Doyle, another CF who is actually elite, and not just called elite like Harris is, and has a cheaper current contract.

Or Leody Taveras?

Or forget Riley Greene, the Tigers are growing average bat/elite CF defense on trees, with Matt Vierling and Weencel Perez looking like they fit the mold. It looks like Jake Meyers fits the mold too.

Sure, sometimes they can go all Jarren Duran on you and find that next gear, but when they do, they’re…. Still ranked lower than Harris???

I’m tired of this stupid narrative that league average bats will command this type of placement and value in the real world. They don’t. And they shouldn’t. It’s not stable, defensive metrics have a lot noise, they’re not universally agreed upon, and defense has a separate aging curve from offense. But most importantly, we have endless examples of this not being the case, despite how much the narrative from FG wants to make it the case. The elite glove average bat profile sits in frees agency for months before accepting a deal lower than everyone thought they would.

Harris is closer to Michael Taylor, Cedric Mullins, Trent Grisham, Manuel Margot, Kevin Pillar, and the poster boy of this narrative being wrong, Kevin Kiermaier, than he is to anyone on this list. This profile literally grows on trees, and we sit here and defend it as the invention of sliced bread, only to be wrong, every goddamn year. When are we going to learn?

And FFS, no, you absolutely would not take Harris over Devers. No one would. That’s a dumb thought exercise and I’m done killing brain cells to explain such a simple and obvious truth.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

This deserves the Serb Translation Treatment

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Hardy har. In Serbian, French, Vietnamese, and back to English, or any other language, nothing I said is incorrect.

Every year Kiermaier was a trade candidate because at $9MM he was too expensive for the Rays. And every year, he stayed a Ray bc they were the only team that valued his skill set.

But sure, try to resort to playground insults bc you can’t use your words when someone has an opinion that doesn’t align with yours.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

I literally have no idea what you are arguing for or against. It is literally incomprehensible to me. Your position may be correct but I could read that a hundred times and still not understand what you are arguing.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

From what I can tell, Michael Harris II stole his girl or something.

Since Harris’ debut in 2022 (as the youngest player in baseball), he’s ran a 115 wRC+ while Dalton Varsho (four years and eight months older) checks in at 91. Doyle is at 77 and is three years older.

He can’t possibly be serious.

synco
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It’s pretty clear what he’s arguing: he’s saying that good-field, average-hit guys are consistently overrated.

Is he correct, as regards to this list? Not sure. If anything’s been overrated on these lists in the past few years it’s been average/low-ceiling guys on cheap contracts. Those guys do tend to be defense-heavy.

All that being said, Michael Harris isn’t that guy. He’s taken a big step back this year, but his first two years he was quite good with the bat.

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’d continue your little game and say your reading comprehension deficiency yada yada, but I’d rather not. So I won’t.

You knew what I was saying. You think your cheeky, passive aggressive comments are clever. They’re not.

I’ve seen you on this site for well over a decade, inventing ways to try an offer a contrarian expert opinion on any and every take, no matter the context. But you’ve never been anything but whiny and clearly overcompensating, desperate for attention and respect. You won’t get either from me. No need to reply to me again – do if you want, do whatever you’d like – but I won’t reply to anything else you say.

Take care.

jdbolickMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

Every year, when another cautionary example of an elite glove with average bat being overvalued because of an attractive contract reveals itself, you see writers admitting to assigning too much value to an attractive contract and announcing they’re making an adjustment to their valuation.

Ender Inciarte went from #39 on the 2017 to replacement level with astonishing speed, and he was dramatically superior to Harris defensively.

casey jMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

This idea is almost, kind of a strawman because Harris can HIT. His first two seasons are vastly better than any Inciriarte season.

It is a good point: lots of average hit/ good field players are overrated, it’s just that this doesn’t apply to Harris very well, despite his 2024 numbers… in my opinion.

jdbolickMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  casey j

This idea is almost, kind of a strawman because Harris can HIT. His first two seasons are vastly better than any Inciriarte season.

Harris is a good hitter against very specific pitches that opponents have learned to stop throwing him. He’s very aggressive and struggles against fastballs anywhere that aren’t middle up. He’s also good at punishing bad breaking balls within the strike zone, but whiffs against change-ups. He will have to learn to take the pitches he struggles against if he’s ever going to get back to those 2022 or even 2023 numbers.

casey jMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

In a DB’s idea here. I think good defense/ average hit players are consistently and often overrated.

The thing here to me is that despite how Harris has played only ok in his 2+ months of 2024, I think Harris is a potentially excellent hitter.

Also, just on performance, he hasn’t turned 24 yet and has hit .285 with 20-20 and 35 doubles over a full season rate-wise, with ’24 stats included + solid in CF, and on the bases. #6 might be a tad high, but I could see him being pretty attractive in a deal.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  casey j

Yea it’s hard for me to think that a team would back up the trunk to trade for a player like Harris when you can just sign a different version of Harrison Bader every year

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

The issue with this analogy is that Harris is a good hitter and Harrison Bader is not.

cm26Member since 2025
1 year ago

fwiw, on their Fangraphs player pages, zips says that Harris is projected for 108 wRC+ ROS while Bader is at 103.

Steamer has a bigger gap and not sure how this handles injuries, but I’m not sure that Harris is definitely such a better hitter than Bader.

And for Bader specifically, he’s most likely a better fielder than Harris. So the total talent gap shrinks even more.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  cm26

Do you know what else you can see on their FanGraphs pages?

Michael Harris has a 115 wRC+ for his career and Harrison Bader has a 93 wRC+…and his career high for a full season is 108.

You can also see that Michael Harris has put up 9 WAR in 1258 PA, while Bader has put up 13 WAR in 2422 PA.

So, y’know, the “total talent gap” is pretty goddamn high.

mattMember since 2023
1 year ago

There is a 0% chance the padres would even consider trading tatis

jdbolickMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

 As a catcher, Smith is superior. It’s a very small difference between them, but it’s there.

Rutschman has a Def total of 33.8 over the last three seasons combined compared to Smith’s 18. Smith has a tiny advantage this season because Rutschman has somehow gone from being graded as one of the best framers in baseball during 2022 & 2023 to near the bottom in 2024, something for which I do not have an explanation and I would not expect to continue. If you asked scouts who the better defender is between them, pretty much all of them would say Rutschman.

As for Rutschman’s superior numbers as a DH, that’s because he mostly DHs against LHPs and throughout his career he has been a stronger batter from the right side whether he’s DHing or not.

nategreat
2 years ago

Will Paul Skenes be number 1 by the time next years list rolls out

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  nategreat

Unless those guys in front of him get injured I see no way a pitcher goes higher than this. What more do you want? Even if he never gets better from here, he’s 5+ win pitcher who is being paid nothing for several years, and absolutely nothing looks fluky. His xERA is 2nd in MLB and his ERA- and SIERA are first. His fastball averages 99 with 65-grade command. It’s hard to see how anything more can address his only flaw, which is that he’s a pitcher and pitchers break.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Agree, but it feels very possible that calling him a “5+ win pitcher” undersells him by a good deal.

Dmjn53
2 years ago

But does it? It’s just really difficult for a pitcher to accumulate that much value because they’re just not used as much.

Over the past 3 seasons (can only do last 3 because then we get to 2020), Zack Wheeler leads all pitchers in total WAR and he’s at an average of 5.6 per year. 5 different position players have exceeded that number.

So while it’s more than fair to project Skenes to be the best pitcher in baseball, and to be better than Wheeler even, there’s just a limit to how much value they accrue even if they stay 100% healthy (the biggest “if” in the sport)

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

I think we agree quite a bit more than we disagree, but I think the “limit” is a good deal higher than Zach Wheeler’s 3 year average.

Dmjn53
2 years ago

I agree that Skenes’ ceiling is head and shoulders above Wheeler or any other pitcher in the game, but Wheeler is also #1 because he’s uncommonly durable, and I don’t think we can project that level of durability on anyone.

We have to go back to peak Kershaw to find a starter that sustained any sort of run of being more than a 5 WAR a year starter. Cole never did,. DeGrom, probably the most dominant pitcher we’ll see in our lifetime, only did two years before the injuries started.

Skenes has done nothing wrong here, but I just don’t see how any team would value a pitcher and the significant downside injury risk that comes with it, over two equally talented but essentially risk free shortstops in Witt and Henderson

casey jMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Cole has averaged 4.5 WAR/ 162 games, over 12 seasons in the big leagues. But you are sort of, technically, right lol

And your bigger point is correct. It is already remarkable that Skenes is deservedly #3

JV19
2 years ago

11-15 Kershaw was 37.2 over 5 years, so almost 7.5/year. Let’s call that the “limit”.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

You can make that argument for relief pitchers, but healthy starting pitchers starting every fifth game generally face about as many batters as the number of plate appearances that a healthy position player gets who starts almost every game.

That’s just showing that they have a similar amount of usage. Whether or not pitching provides greater value than hitting per each batter faced / plate appearance is a different argument.

The caveats that prevent a starting pitcher from topping this list are that pitchers get hurt more often in general, and they don’t provide as much value on defense as any non-DH nor any baserunning value (aside from extremely rare pinch-running appearances).

Last edited 2 years ago by Lanidrac
Scott Kliesen
1 year ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Still doesn’t explain how the best Pitcher in baseball by all the aforementioned metrics is projected to have 60% of Wheeler’s last 5 years value.

Hard to justify logically Skenes projected WAR. It’s blatantly WAY LOW based on his performance thus far.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As I was reading, I was thinking “Skenes is going to go as high as a pitcher can go who isn’t signed to the Matt Moore contract,” but that was when I thought he’d be a couple spots lower. I guess the thing that could push him higher is signing the Matt Moore contract? He won’t though.

FWIW I was thinking this through, and if somehow the Pirates traded Skenes for Rodriguez I would be happy, if they traded him for de la Cruz I would not. Part of this is team construction though. I would wonder if EDLC’s breakout was a potential blip like Vlad Jr., but it looks like he’s cut his O-swing a whole lot while keeping most of his Z-swing, which seems sustainable?

casey jMember since 2026
2 years ago

I hate it when people get all indignant and insulting here about baseball but people who question Elly De La CRuz’s abilities as a player seem silly, or like they aren’t watching him play. Amazing player across the board, and any real “scouting” from last year would have made this obvious. He has ALL the tools, ALL the style, and most of the substance. Everyone except a stat nerd is a huge fan of that dude.

Last edited 2 years ago by casey j
synco
2 years ago
Reply to  casey j

The fear with Elly is that this year proves to be a blip, and he goes back to being a very exciting 2.5 WAR player. Which is a great player to have, but isn’t the #4 asset in baseball.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  casey j

Yeah, he’s still probably more fun than he is good…but that’s just because of how goddamn fun he is to watch.

The Duke
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

5+ ??

Skenes has made 12 starts, so just about a 1/3 of a normal starters load. He’s got 3.4 bWAR which x3 is 10.5 bWAR. So let’s haircut that by 2 WAR because he isn’t making 36 starts anytime soon. That puts him at 8-9 so to say he is 5+ you’d have to believe the second time around the league, “they figure him out” exceeds his “gets better with every start”.

Maybe. The Cardinals beat him in his second start against them.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  The Duke

A full load for a starter at this point is somewhere between 165 and 180 innings and if you’re using bWAR you’re making some heroic assumptions about Pittsburgh’s DRS. So, yeah, I think 5+ is conservative but fair. That’s still a league ace and there’s no upper limit on that range, even if it implies that being a 6 win guy every year is optimistic.

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

That is not a “full load”, but it is what you commonly see. But every year there are double digit guys breaking 200 IP, so you can’t just lop off 30+ IP because it’s becoming more frequent and act like the upper range doesn’t exist, that unfairly penalizes the guys that do reach it.

It’s also just wrong. Everyone here is playing their heads instead of using their eyes and brains to look at reality.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

It feels awfully dangerous to expect him to pitch more than that. Maybe he pitches more, maybe less. Maybe he gets hurt and doesn’t pitch at all!

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t expect him to. I just disagree with capping the “Full load” at something less than that, and think the people that prove they can consistently better that load (as stated in the Logan Webb blurb) should get credit for it.

It’s less about Skenes and more about the guys that can and still do achieve 200+, even if it’s more rare by the year.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

Double digit guys pitch 200 innings a year? That is not even close to true. 5 pitchers did in 2023, 8 in 2022, and 4 in 2021

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  The Duke

He had a Game Score of 77 in that start of the Cardinals, I would take that kind of “figuring out” any day. It was the Pirates’ offense what beat him.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  The Duke

Even then, the Cardinals only managed to score 2 runs in 8 IP against him. It’s just that the Pirates’ offense only squeezed out 1 run.

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RobertMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Completely agreed. Uber elite, young position players on great contracts are always better to have than pitchers.

carterMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I mean maybe if he posts 10 war between now and then and becomes peak Pedro?

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I can do no more than point out last years ranking. In 2023 5 of the top 18 players were pitchers and 4 of them, Strider, McClanahan, Alcantara and Eury Perez, are out of action with TJ surgery. Of course pitchers have value but it is clearly becoming more and more of a crap shoot as to how to value them as more break down and how to actually put together anything that even resembles a solid staff. The amount of money thrown away this past off-season is staggering. The return on the 4 mentioned above is zero as is Giolito and that is better than Snell and Montgomery, both of whom are performing at below replacement level per bWAR. Scherzer and Verlander, the best of the best, aren’t providing much value either for the staggering amounts of money they are receiving. Obviously teams have to spend money on pitching but the increasing breakdown of top quality pitchers makes it nearly impossible to place a value on something as nebulous as a pitcher’s arm but there is no alternative so the GM’s will continue to throw money around while shaking in their boots that the arms they sign don’t fall off.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  nategreat

He’s not ranked #1 because of any doubt about his talent or performance. He or any pitcher will never be #1 because they’re volatile by definition.

A team will always take a young, elite up the middle position player like Witt or Gunner because you can nearly guarantee that player is going to remain awesome for the next 5 years. That guarantee will never exist for a starting pitcher

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lukeMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

But isn’t the question always going to hinge on the definition of “elite”. The WAR projections are there for the two ahead of him but the WAR projections are there for Merrill as well and he isn’t ahead of Skenes.

In other words, if Skenes appeared a year later or Witt and Gunnar were just a tad less “elite” a pitcher could be ahead of them.

Just not this pitcher at this time.

ScoreboardMember since 2016
2 years ago

I love this series and your writing Ben, but I actually find this comment section to be one of the least toxic comment sections in all of the internet. Obviously that’s a ridiculously low bar, but I am repeatedly impressed by folks to reinforce principles of civility (eg no ad hominem attacks), data-based evidence, and the ability to disagree. There is no other site where I’m genuinely interested to read/participate in the comments after reading the amazing content.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

I had the exact same thought. This place is an oasis.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

Ben deserved to get (politely, kindly) roasted on putting EDLC #9 based on a hot start to his career and him being a lot of fun. But maybe some of that wasn’t so polite or kind. I can’t decide who I’m defending here.

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Did he deserve to get roasted? Turns out he was right and most of us were wrong.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

I would say he deserves to take a victory lap as well!

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Loved the “two middle fingers for the haters” write up, hahaha

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

I don’t have any more appetite to argue about de La Cruz, but his ranking on last year’s list was wrong based on any available information at the time.

De La Cruz blowing up this year doesn’t make last year’s ranking correct, the same way that Bichette falling off a cliff this year doesn’t make his ranking wrong either

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

I disagree. This article isn’t a list of consensus rankings, this is Ben’s rankings. What makes someone like Ben a great analyst is his ability to see and consider the things the average fan cannot. Not just stats but things like projectability, ability to make mechanical changes, etc. When an analyst is wrong, Lord knows they’re going to get roasted in the comments. So when they’re right, especially in the face of extreme opposition, I think the right thing to do is give them props. Good work, Ben!

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

Yes, Ben can clearly see that Tatis is a much more valuable player than….well, everyone else.

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

Yeah, Ben really needs to get out more. And the prefatory “no offense” doesn’t make it less insulting.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

As recently as yesterday, someone was suggesting that Ben was going to rank Elly #1 over Bobby and Gunnar just because “he likes him,” which showed contempt for Ben’s professionalism.

This is one of the top three comment sections I read or participate in, for sure. But – speaking as a full-time writer whose employer has a comment section – no matter where you are and who your audience is, if you’re paid to put yourself out there in public, somebody’s always going to come at you. FG is lucky to have self-policing member-readers who will defend the turf! But as a writer, especially when someone disparages your professionalism, that one angry jerk will always stick in your memory, even if they get a bunch of downvotes.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Oh that was me. How was I supposed to know he was going to pull it for Tatis and not EDLC?

lukeMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Agreed, but that doesn’t make the entire comments secruon “toxic.”.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Great comment, Brian.

I have a funny name, and for a long time people would make jokes about that name, and it was the first time they’d made that joke but it was not the first time I’d heard it. Probably the same in comment sections–for the commenters one person popping off is just one thing, and you probably aren’t getting into multiple flame wars unless that’s your thing. But for Ben every single comment is directed at him. And some people are kinda salty, or they’re doing something that they think is friendly teasing but that maybe doesn’t land that way among the mass of comments!

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago

Yep! In my profession, these mean-or-joking commenters like to say I am getting paid bribes to write articles. They’re all random people who don’t know each other and they’re all acting out in the moment. It only looks like a pattern when you’re the person who has to read ’em all.

Hope you appreciate/enjoy having your name despite people!

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

If you’re a professional writer why are you even reading the comment sections?

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Same reason Ben does, probably – the 90% of people who are nice and cool and interesting!

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

If you sincerely think saying “he likes him” makes someone an “angry jerk” I don’t even know what to tell you.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago

I think the context made it clear that that sentence was talking about angry comments in general, not any specific comment.

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Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

The context made it incredibly slippery and unclear — I have to assume deliberately — what exact degree of disagreement or disparagement qualifies a comment as “angry” or “jerkish” in your view. Listen, I, too, have had people say mean things about me on the Internet based on writing published under my real name, up to and including death threats. But the way you and others are throwing around words like “angry” and “toxic” about this comment section really just makes me think you sound thin-skinned. People are allowed to disagree with you, and even impugn your professionalism, on the Internet.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago

“As a writer…that one angry jerk sticks in your memory.” It’s very clearly a general statement about life as a writer. And it’s also very clear that it doesn’t say “people aren’t allowed to disagree,” it just says that that’s what you remember.

dozingoffdadMember since 2021
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Brian Reinhart the dining critic?

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  dozingoffdad

last week had a commenter saying restaurants pay me $5,000 a pop for reviews…if that was true I would DEFINITELY not read the comments!

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Does it show contempt for his professionalism, or does it acknowledge his self-admitted bias?

Jesus Christ people can’t have opinions anymore unless they agree with random internet commenter. Ben is correct about the toxicity, even if it’s delivered with more tact, it comes with a lot more entitlement and arrogance from someone just as unwilling to consider that there is an opinion on earth other than theirs that matters.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Relax, bud.

A poster making an innocuous assumption about slight favoritism isn’t an “insult to someone’s profession”, especially when said writer is in on the joke.

synco
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

Ditto, was going to write the same thing. This comments section is the least toxic I’m aware of.

johndarc
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

I assume he’s referring to the weird oldhead chuds who show up and chide the writers for not “sticking to sports” whenever they mention any type of relevant social issue.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

I think I can buy the entire Top 10 (first time in a long time, I think) based on the logic laid out and in the exact order…except for Tatis Jr. I agree with your sources. He’s young and he’s going to be very good for a while but even if you ignore the injuries (which is a bit of a leap, but maybe defensible). But the story with him is that he’s Top 10 in xwOBA and he’s being paid like it. Even if we’re just assuming the shoulder injuries are no longer an issue and he’s not one of those “too strong for his body” types who will break early and often, then I think he probably doesn’t deserve to be in the Top 10. I’d probably switch him with Jackson Merrill (maybe Riley Greene) and call it a day, but I wouldn’t blame anyone who wanted to put him lower.

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah, that contract combined with the injury and bust risk are just too much to rank him this high. The potential is similar to Gunnar’s, but he’s not as close to it as Gunnar with a lot more minuses and flags on his profile/contract.

Jewish PacheMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

This feels directly tied to Ben’s emphasis this year on concentration of value. Purely talking surplus value, sure I see the case for a 1 for 1 swap for a Merrill or a Greene.

But the list of 25 year olds who have posted a 7 WAR season with a clear path to providing that much value (or more) in 1 season is almost non existent. No doubt it’s much riskier than the pre-arb studs, but I’d prefer to take a chance on the hall of fame talent’s age 26-35 years even with the guaranteed money attached.

padrepapi
2 years ago
Reply to  Jewish Pache

Tatis is easily one of the most talented players in baseball and one of the best athletes. His advanced 2024 #’s paint that picture perfectly.

xwOBA: 97
xBA: 98
xSLG: 96
Avg EV: 94
Max EV: 98
Hard hit: 96
Arm: 99
Speed: 85 (94 last year)

For a guy less than 2 years removed from shoulder surgery makes those numbers even more impressive.

Glad he is a Padre and that all of his prime is locked up!

thephienMember since 2024
2 years ago

Are Shohei’s WAR projections his hitting and pitching ones combined, or just his hitting?

ScoreboardMember since 2016
2 years ago

I feel like this year’s list indexed more heavily on cost-controllability than previous years. If that is true (and it might not be), is that because teams have become more cost conscious or because we simply don’t have as many stars approaching free agency (eg Machado, Harper)?

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  Scoreboard

Funny, I thought it indexed less heavily, with more players on mega free agent contracts like Harper and Seager and Lindor. Ben having said that his philosophy was to emphasize production more over surplus value. Which again I think makes sense, production in 2024-6 is more valuable than 2027-30 partly because teams have a much better idea of whether it’ll help them this year than next!

I think if there are fewer players who are free agents soon, it might be that there are fewer stars approaching free agency. Looking at the top 25 qualified hitter WAR right now, unless I’m missing someone, the pure rentals are Soto, Adames, Profar, and Walker. Ozuna has a club option for 2025. The only other one who is a free agent even as soon as 2027 is Alec Bohm. If I drop the PA threshhold, Kyle Tucker comes on as eligible in 2026, but Bohm gets pushed out of the top 25. Tucker’s also hurt, and doesn’t seem like much argument for any of them to be higher than HM–Soto is about as good as a rental can get, and he’s not bringing back Jared Jones.

There’s many more 2027-or-earlier free agents on the pitching list but some of them made the top 50 like Skubal, or got HMed for whatever reason like Crochet and Gray or are pure rentals like Sale (and even Burnes got an HM), or… well Seth Lugo is amazing this year but are you going to rank him as if that’s his true talent level for next year?

markakis21
2 years ago

I think I largely agree with this top 10, even Ohtani (while his contract is ostensibly ‘bad’, his value is so high because there are no other options like him. think the zack greinke to the astros trade on a much grander scale), except for Tatis. That contract could be a massive albatross, not sure he has anywhere near that trade value.

David WiersMember since 2016
2 years ago

I’m not sure I’m sold on Tatis Jr. being this high, but this year’s list probably better reflects my feelings more than the last two or three.

Great work.

Meg, please don’t fire Ben for putting Skenes No. 3.

Sooted72
2 years ago

i used to think EDLC belonged in the top 5. i still do, but i used to too.

Sooted72
2 years ago
Reply to  Sooted72

EDLC can never break. he can only become matt stairs.

steex
2 years ago
Reply to  Sooted72

Sorry for the convenience.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Sooted72

RIP Mitch Haniger…er…Hedberg…

OkraMember since 2016
2 years ago

Ranked too high:

Tatis – I get that he’s still young, but he’s also a bit injury prone, expensive, and the elite slug has not returned post suspension. Belongs in the Seager/Lindor tier

Michael Harris – dude hits a ton of ground balls, doesn’t walk, and his offense is BABIP dependent. This is the first year he has a normal BABIP and his wRC+ is 82. Yikes. Yeah he’s cheap but ranked way too high. Belongs in Volpe/Tovar tier. Would take Chourio or Westburg over him without hesitation

Luis Robert – people are way too focused on his ceiling. His wRC+ over the last three years is 120 and he is always hurt. To be ranked so high you have to believe he both stays healthy and hits his ceiling. That’s a tail outcome

Wood/Langford/Neto – Wood pounds the ball into the ground so much it could easily undermine all his power. A swing change is far from guaranteed. Langford and Neto are fine but nothing great at this time. Assumed further growth is baked in at this price but just because you debut young and hold your own doesn’t guarantee anything a la Nomar Mazara.

phanadic
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

I agree Harris’s ranking is too high, but he won’t just be an average BABIP player.

He can’t hit fly balls, but he hits a lot of strong line drives and ground balls, and he’s pretty fast. I can see a high BABIP profile here. It seems like he had a bit of luck in 2022, but if the 2023 version of him is really close to him, there will be no problem with him recording a higher BABIP than average.

OkraMember since 2016
2 years ago

Ranked too low:

Strider/McClanahan/Eury Perez – We routinely see teams pay decent money on 2yr deals for pitchers rehabbing from TJS. These guys are elite and I would gladly trade a Neto or Langford for them.  

Paredes – This is the third year he’s doing it. It’s not a fluke and his pulled FB HRs would work in at least 8-10 parks (not only tampa). I’m not sure how you can rank Ohtani in the top 10 with his massive contract but also say too few teams would be in on Paredes.
  
Albies – may seem boring at this point but very productive, cheap forever, only 27. Isn’t he everything you hope a Neto turns into?

Duran – beating the dead horse here but agree and would place in the 40-50 tier

Houck/B Miller/Woo – not enough pitching on this list. yeah they get hurt a lot but you have to have them and are very valuable at the deadline. these three are young, cheap and very good

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

I will say that this is the first time in quite a while that this list has been done where there weren’t like 3-5 guys who I knew flat out didn’t belong on the list. I think Strider, Paredes, Duran, Houck, Joe Ryan, and Joey Ortiz probably also belong on this list but it’s hard to definitively say that any other players don’t. There’s no Spencer Steer on the list or anything like that.

OkraMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah Ben did a great job this year. Fun to debate. I’d have no hesitation taking Wood, Langford, Neto, Grayson R, Gore (and maybe Abrams) off the list to make room for some of the guys I mentioned.

dontcare
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

I think a lot of the back half is the issue with trying to hit a moving target on a list of players with high volatility. Ideally, this would be an offseason exercise, but it’s much more fun to have around the trade deadline.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

KeBryan Hayes!

John WickMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

McClanahan you’re at least getting in 2025, those other two guys are worth nothing until 2026. I’d jump at Strider because of his ceiling, but do we know that McClanahan and Eury are elite?

Albies is what a 115 wrC+ bat, average defender at 2B. Really nice player to have on that deal but he’s appropriately off the list IMO. Pretty big difference between having that profile at 2B and having it at SS.

Your other young pitchers just aren’t good enough to crack the list.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

Also, Strider isn’t even recovering from TJS. He did not tear a ligament. I wonder if that was correctly considered?

If the Braves traded Strider for Tatis I would be livid.

If the Braves want to add $313m and have an outfielder through 2035, they could just give that money to Acuña and keep all of their prospects.

Astromets
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

I disagree on Albies. I think the only case for Albies being on the list right now is his contract, because evaluating him as a player, he’s starting to look a bit overrated, or, at best, a streaky power-hitting second baseman with average-at-best defense and average everything else.

-Admittedly, the upside has been a good defensive second baseman with power, and he’s basically been a 4 fWAR player in 4 of his 7 non-COVID seasons
-On the flip side, he hasn’t had a standout defensive season since before COVID (by UZR or DRS; Statcast has him at -8 FRV since the start of 2023), and he has a career 109 wRC+
-He’s had a wRC+ above 110 in just 2 seasons, with a high of 124 in 2023
-He doesn’t walk a lot (6.6 BB% career), and while his BABIP is fine (.294 career) and he doesn’t strike out much (16.9 K% career), he’s shown no reason to think he’ll be a high average hitter moving forward
-He’s a good baserunner, but he has just average speed, and he hasn’t been a big threat on the bases
-This is the second time in three years where he was playing at around a 2 WAR/600 PA pace with a league average ISO and wRC+ before injuries cut his season short. Looking back further, the outlier since 2020 is that 124 wRC+ in 2023, his next best season in that time is a 108 wRC+ in 2021

I’ve been following Ozzie since he played for the Rome Braves, so despite my username, I assure you I’m not just taking an anti-Braves stance. He could take his offensive game to that next level on a more consistent basis and get back on the list, but given the direction his defense has been going, the bar for his offense is going to be that 2023 season.

Sure, teams would still be happy to have him signed on his current contract, but what would they trade for that profile, even if it is on a team friendly contract?

alexpMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Astromets

As a Braves fan, I agree. His performance this year has me very concerned that the Braves may have a second base problem soon, if not now. The contract is so cheap and Ozzie is such a key part of the clubhouse, that he will keep the job no matter what. But, his arm is gone and the offense was not the same this year. The whole team is down offensively though, so maybe there’s a rebound coming.

Shirtless George Brett
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

Are you really unsure how a guy who has an outside shot at a 40/40 season AND is also a Cy Young caliber pitcher can be in the top 10 even with a massive contract?

Because its really not that complicated.

OkraMember since 2016
2 years ago

No sir. I get Ohtani’s value. My comment strictly relates to the theoretical number of trade partners interested. If you’re not concerned about that with Ohtani (few teams would be willing/able to pay his contract), then you shouldn’t ding Paredes for that (his pulled HRs might “only” work in ~10-12 parks).

dontcare
2 years ago

I definitely understand the trepidation for Tatis Jr., given the injury history, but I’ll restate that he’s significantly overhauled his approach from 2020-2021 to be more all-field. I think you can quibble with the choice given his performance in 2023-2024 (and I suspect a decent bit of his xwOBA underperformance is there), but the power concerns are a lot of hand-wringing when his 2024 average EV is 94th percentile.

Last edited 2 years ago by dontcare
soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  dontcare

I think there’s some amount of us being anchored in what he was that’s impacting the ranking.

He was a 7-win 22 year old SS, and it’s hard to shake that perception.

He is a 4.5-win 25 year old OF, and has been for for a year and a half now.

dontcare
2 years ago

For sure. I think there’s a bit of positional adjustment playing a part there too. IMO, he looks far better in RF than he ever did at SS, and it’s not like his talents are wasted with Petco’s dimensions. There’s also the confluence of a return from injury/suspension and a positional change all at once. I get why people are down on him because it seems like every season is a pick-2 of great defense, great offense, and health, but I think it’s really only the health that’s holding him back at this point.

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  dontcare

Average EV alone isn’t enough to guarantee a better outcome. Ask Matt Chapman or pre-2024 Ke’Bryan Hayes, or Yandy Diaz, or Maikel Garcia…

dontcare
2 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

I picked average EV because I feel it most succinctly measures power-on-contact. All of Tatis Jr.’s on-contact Statcast metrics have been in or near top decile since 2020 besides launch angle and last year’s barrel%. I don’t care if people wanna clown on him because the PED business, but saying there’s power concerns overlooks the actual data and his change in approach from 2023 on.

Dmjn53
2 years ago

Here’s a very unscientific and non data-driven review of the top 10. I would throw a week long party if my team emptied its farm system for 9 of the players in this article. I don’t think I’d be quite as enthusiastic if they sold the farm for Tatis, and if anything I’d be sad

carterMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Tatis to me feels like a guy who is going to break over and over again. I don’t know why, he just does.

dl80Member since 2026
2 years ago

This is, as always, really good. I just disagree about Tatis, who hasn’t been nearly the same hitter (power wise, especially) since he stopped taking PEDs. He’s a good hitter, not a great one.

padrepapi
2 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Saying Tatis power was PED induced doesn’t explain his 2024 stats:

xSLG: 96
max EV: 98
hard hit%: 96

His power numbers improved from 2023 which you would expect from having shoulder surgery and 2 wrist surgeries in 2022.

Looking at his #’s pre 2022 and what he has done this year I think makes the case that if he did knowingly take PED’s in 2022 when he was out it was to help speed up his recovery. Though I have read that if that was the case he was taking the wrong ones as what he tested for had the opposite effect and not what you would use to accomplish that.

dl80Member since 2026
1 year ago
Reply to  padrepapi

I would argue it’s much more likely he’s been taking them ever year until 2022, when he was caught.

You can talk about expected slugging all you want, but it’s just a fact that his power is down dramatically.

Iso before the suspension: .303
Iso since the suspension: .190

He’s just not the same player. And his power this year isn’t any better than it was last year.

He’s still a good/very good hitter. He’s just not an elite one without the PEDs.

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bigred221334
1 year ago
Reply to  dl80

Well, all this has proven is that you know functionally nothing about PEDs and are speaking out of your ass.

First off, Clostebol is one of the weakest anabolics to ever exist. It is a WWII relic formula and not only is it seriously weak compared to current bespoke offerings, it’s also one of the easiest PEDs to pop for.

In other words, there is exactly nobody in the current professional sports world that would take Clostebol knowingly for the purposes of cheating. Next to zero reward for a mountain of risk. Especially someone with $300m+ on the line and more than enough funds to secure a bespoke compound, which would be orders of magnitude more difficult to test for.

Second, Tatis’ /162s before the injuries/suspension had him on track for over 800 home runs, and you think that he wasn’t being tested? And/or this PED, which you put his success up to and is nearly impossible to NOT pop for, was just skating by their tests? Sure, pal.

Do you think it’s more likely that surgeries for three separate significant injuries with no playtime in between impacted his swing and power, or not having access to an extremely ineffectual PED would impact his power? Including the same surgery that robbed Bellinger of his power for about two years?

Oh, and the factoring in that Clostebol most commonly appears in today’s world in a topical anti-inflammatory commonly sold OTC in the Dominican for skin rashes…

Use your brain.

Adam Reynolds
2 years ago

Skenes would also have the celebrity and marketing value. He is selling 15k more tickets to a Tuesday game than other Pirates pitchers.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  Adam Reynolds

No question, but the same caveat exists. Just like he needs to stay healthy to rack up WAR totals, he needs to be healthy for fans to buy a ticket to see him

RobertMember since 2017
2 years ago

Overall very good list. I also think the tiers are a great addition to the list and help in parsing it.

fanofthemanMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert

I think the tiers are a huge improvement to this series!!

ChetManley
2 years ago

Elly too low

DLHughey
2 years ago

Still no love for Bryan Reynolds?

dodgerbleu
2 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

He’s been a terrible defender for 3-years now, and as he’s hit for more power he’s done so at the expense of batting zone judgement and walks. He has a big 6+ win season in 2021, and was worth almost 4-wins his rookie season in 2019, but he hit .302 and .314, respectively, in those seasons. This new Reynolds has been worth 2.1 wins in 2023 and 2.8 wins in 2022, at 2.2 so far this season and if he eclipses 3 wins, it will be only the third time in his career he’s done so and this is his last year he’ll play with an age that starts with the number 2.

He’s a nice player, but he’s not a top 50 asset in baseball by any measure of it that I can imagine.

lukeMember since 2024
2 years ago

I’m guessing Ben doesn’t spend time on comment sections other than FanGraphs. If he considers these toxic, the real world would make him blush.

Chili Davis Eyes
2 years ago
Reply to  luke

If you think internet comment sections are “the real world”, you may be spending too much time on the internet.

Lanidrac
2 years ago

I get the idea of including high-priced superstars on this list. I just didn’t expect to see so many of them in the Top 10. Even Witt’s contract gets really expensive in its last 2 to 3 years.

Are there just not as many relatively cheap stars with significant remaining team control as there used to be?

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OkraMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

I think it’s important to remember that elite talents still make big $ in ARB2 and ARB3. Soto is making $31M this year. Gotta keep that in mind when looking at Witt’s salaries.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

Sure, they can make around $20M or so in their last year of arbitration, but Witt is making over $30M in each of those last two years. Soto is a rare exception.

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Shirtless George Brett
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

Witt will have racked up so much surplus value by then it wont even matter a little bit. He is making $2 million this year and will probably end up close to 10 fWAR. Next year he makes $7 million. Then $13 million in 2026. He doesnt even make over 20 million until 2028.

Lanidrac
2 years ago

But not near as much surplus value as someone like De La Cruz, and Witt is only a partial offender. Alvarez, Tatis Jr., and Ohtani are even less deserving of a Top 10 spot due to their huge contracts.

Besides, 2/3rds of the current ultimate bargain season for Witt at $2M has already passed.

Shirtless George Brett
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

But not near as much surplus value as someone like De La Cruz

I mean, that depends on what De La Cruz does. If you figure their speed and defence is a wash, right now Witt is about 30% better at the plate. And most people think ELDC has alot more risk than Witt. So its not at all outside the realm of possibility that Witt still out values Elly even with a much bigger contract. In fact I might even say its likely since, as stated, Witt doesnt even start making big money for several years.

Besides, 2/3rds of the current ultimate bargain season for Witt at $2M has already passed.

and? Its not like that surplus value goes away. They have gotten a 9-10ish win season for less than the league avg (significantly less, in fact). So the Royals are already massively up in terms of value on his contract. I dont know what they avg $/WAR is these days but even if you want to go crazy low and say its only 5 million per win, Witt has already provided ~$33 million in surplus value.

Short of Witt becoming a paraplegic in the next 4 years there is zero world where his contract ever becomes bad for the Royals.

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carterMember since 2020
2 years ago

Hey at least you admit you are on an island with Tatis!

kid
2 years ago

Granted this is not a fantasy article but my approach in fantasy baseball re: starting pitching is to always be flipping them whenever their perceived value is greater than their actual value. The reasons, of which we are all of course aware, are the relative unpredictability, “consistency” and health of MLB starters. Say I managed to draft a bunch of upshot pitchers late who have all panned out: Ragans, Flaherty, Cristopher Sanchez, etc… I’m looking to cash out on those guys ASAP to find the *next* Ragans, Flaherty & Sanchez. I’ve already extracted the bulk of what I’m likely gonna get out of them; time to move on. For real life teams I would operate the same way; If I had a Skenes-type I would be looking to sell for a stupid haul of talent, because history tells us it’s the right thing to do.

ShauncoreMember since 2019
2 years ago

We saved the best for last, because that’s how the series works.”

This mfer is Cistulli-posting

wandererkentMember since 2025
2 years ago

Loved every word of this, thank you.

mike sixelMember since 2016
2 years ago

Great series as always! One week of writing? Insane.

rye890
2 years ago

Will Smith in the top 10? Hilarious.

szielinskiMember since 2026
2 years ago

For a team contending for a post season spot, players in the top ten are all but untradable. These are the players that are so good that they prevail even when facing top talent. As a Pirates fan, I expect Skenes to flatten the opposition whenever he pitches. I expect that because he does that even on his off days.

One can use statistics to evaluate Skenes and to assign him a number that expresses his value. One can use other numbers for players that, when aggregated, equal skenes :value. But what these other numbers, in the aggregate, miss is the capacity of elite players to excel in peak situations, that is, when playing against similar players or against top teams. Witt and Henderson produce value in every game they play. Skenes, on the other hand, might pitch a 19 strikeout, no hitter everytime he pitches. Skenes is the true successor to Randy Johnson. When the Pirates trade Skenes, and it will trade him, it will lose that trade if Skenes is as good as he. Is now.

calkal1994
2 years ago

Surprised that Kyle Tucker didn’t make the cut. He has been one of the most consistent top 10 hitters in the league over the past several years.

RobertMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  calkal1994

I think Ben talked about him in the introduction/honorable mentions

johndarc
2 years ago
Reply to  calkal1994

Probably because he’s a free agent soon? He is very good, though

bookbookMember since 2024
2 years ago

I’m surprised you aren’t getting folks saying Julio is too high. 1. No one understands his contract. And 2. He’s had two phenomenally frustrating first halves in a row. No all-star fame for the #5 value in all of baseball? Not even a hint he belonged. But, yeah, that guy’s too talented not to bounce back, and stay bounced back. Right?

jason shureMember since 2017
2 years ago

Are there any players who didn’t even make honorable mention but who are nice possibilities for next year? Taj Bradley might have gotten hot right when the list was being compiled? Another month or two of pitching bananas like this becomes hard to ignore.

spoonful
2 years ago

I predicted Paul Skenes #1. You’re fired!

Dan B
2 years ago

Overall, great list.
I think Chourio is probably a little low, given age/contract and the fact that he is already providing value.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan B

Reading through the list again has made me realize that until you get to the top 5, you could probably put most of these guys 10 spots lower. And you could move a huge number of them up to 10 spots higher (as long as they are not in the top 5).

Chourio and Michael Harris are good examples of this. I agreed with Chourio’s position and agreed with Harris’s position. But if you were to ask me whether I would want to start a franchise with Chourio and his contract or the equivalent with Harris…I don’t know!

richielampsMember since 2022
2 years ago

Fantastic list as usual, thanks Ben

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
1 year ago

If Pirates sign Skenes to the contract Witt signed or Tatis signed would that make him more valuable or less valuable? I think he would still be #3 for now but Henderson drops behind him when he’s close to FA

Scott Kliesen
1 year ago

If you could have one player on this list for next 5 years, who would it be? No disrespect to anyone else, but the answer has to be either Ohtani or Skenes.

Ohtani for obvious reasons. Skenes because in something like 11 starts has already done something (6 or more no-hit innings and 10+ strikeouts, twice) that only Nolan Ryan had ever done in MLB history.

No disrespect to all the other great players on this list, but these two are simply different.