Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 2/18/19
12:02 |
: Powered by bourbon and a few packs of Smarties, it’s the Dan Szymborski Chat!
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12:02 |
: Can you elaborate further on the projections for Soto vs Acuna? Of course Soto being above Harper even was a surprise, but he’s more than a full win ahead of Acuna.
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12:02 |
: Acuña projects as more valuable as a centerfielder, he can’t leverage all his talents in a corner!
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12:02 |
: Reminder – Moose is a Hall of Fame pitcher. Mousse just signed a contract with the Brewers
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12:03 |
: If Babe Ruth can share with like a dozen guys, Moose can share.
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12:04 |
: It’s not even Mussina’s to hoard: Moose Haas, Moose Skowron, and Randy Milligan shared it with him with nary a protest!
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12:04 |
: Of the teams like TEX, TOR, DET, etc., who are in soft-rebuild mode, who’s the closest to getting back into contention?
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12:04 |
: Texas
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12:04 |
: Is Alonso Rhys Hoskins ?
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12:04 |
: I’ve seen worse comps
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12:04 |
: Happy President’s Day Dan. Let’s stay in D.C. ZIPs for Juan Soto are eye watering. 36 HR and keeping a .400 OBP for a player who won’t be 21 until next October? Is this a Zips number even you might kind of look at and say……Really? Not doubting the ZIPs..but man..what a projection.
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12:04 |
: ZiPS isn’t typically prone to overexcitement!
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12:04 |
: Soto’s 2018 is enough to make you wonder if the records weren’t tampered with!
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12:05 |
: Will ZIPS be doing a Yusei Kikuchi projection?
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12:05 |
: There already was one!
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12:05 |
: Dan. Looking for a PSA here. If you or any chatter could recommend the best website where established fantasy leagues who are looking for a new owner or two could post? Same for someone looking to join an established fantasy league for 2019. Fangraphs had this a few years ago I believe. Thank You.
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12:06 |
: I actually don’t know
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12:06 |
: HA! My work here is done Szymborski.
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12:06 |
: CURSE YOU
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12:06 |
: Is it too soon for the Padres to make a big move like Machado? Will this limit their flexibility in the future?
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12:06 |
: I think when it’s an actual big move, it’s fine. Machado or Harper woudl still be good in 2 or 3 years.
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12:06 |
: I rather have Machado than flexibility!
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12:06 |
: The problem is when the make a meh move and call it a big move.
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12:06 |
: See: Eric Hosmer
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12:07 |
: Thoughts on Kyle Dowdy? The Mets seem really high on him with an apparent velocity gain
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12:08 |
: I think he’s mor elikely to stick as a reliever than as a starter
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12:08 |
: He was a good rule 5 pick though
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12:09 |
: There are a couple spots in the back of the team’s pen that aren’t that exciting that he fits
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12:09 |
: Tyler Skaggs said that he has learned more from the Rapsodo machine in 1 month than he did in 4-5 previous years. Couple that with a pitching coach that knows how to use and disseminate that information (Doug White), would you expect a slight improvement from the Angels pitching staff?
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12:09 |
: I dunno, I don’t think these things tend to make as big a difference as some do
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12:09 |
: Almost every team cna use information now
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12:09 |
: What is the probability, according to ZiPS, for a Max Kepler breakout?
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12:10 |
: Define breakout, gimme a number of something
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12:10 |
: I can’t really give you a single number for a concept
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12:10 |
: Will I be a dynasty darling by June?
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12:10 |
: BA sure and in OBP leagues
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12:10 |
: Where should I send the Alcides Escobar Oriole’s jersey to you Dan. It is my gift to you on National Irony Day….it will also include a gift certificate for Skyline Chili.
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12:10 |
: WORST BIRTHDAY EVER
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12:10 |
: Well, if you give it ot me on June 19
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12:11 |
: who is your pick(s) of the young Braves pitchers to break out?
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12:11 |
: SOroka, Gohara
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12:11 |
: I’ve wanted to ask you this forever and always forget, due to lack of importance. Still–I know your thoughts on what is chili, and what is beef and bean stew. Question is, do you enjoy beef and bean stew? Is it something you’d happily eat? Thanks!
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12:11 |
: It’s fine, but I prefer chili
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12:11 |
: Who is the player who would benefit the most from one specific home ballpark? I’m not just talking about a hitter doing better in Colorado. Does anyone have a profile that would be expected to drastically improve somewhere even in relation to the park factors?
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12:12 |
: Some do, I don’t know who is the *most*
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12:12 |
: Chances either (or both) of us end up in San Diego?
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12:12 |
: Call it 30% that one does, <0.1% that both do
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12:12 |
: Dan chat is back
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12:12 |
: IT’S ALMOST EVERY WEEK
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12:12 |
: All star game idea: Make the first base third and third first base so that batters have to run clockwise around the bases. Would this improve the game in any measurable way?
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12:12 |
: No
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12:13 |
: Now, if you make every other runner go clockwise and runners going opposite direction can only pass each other if one does a flip over the other one, then yes
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12:13 |
Or, is Hiura still in the plans, and if he’s raking/ready in June, he’ll get his PA’s and they’ll figure the ramifications out then? |
12:13 |
: I don’t think Hiura was ever going to start the season as the 2B, so no effect here.
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12:14 |
: And if he’s crushing the ball in June, well that’s a nice problem to have
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12:14 |
: Is Victor Robles a good bet for a 70/60/.275 and 40 steal campaign?
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12:15 |
: Slightly on the aggressive side
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12:15 |
: If the Padres sign both Machado and Harper, do they win a wild card spot?
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12:15 |
: No
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12:15 |
: Yu Darvish will be the Cubs best starter. Change my mind.
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12:15 |
: It’s certainly possible. Last year isn’t the greatest projection system
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12:15 |
: If you could guarantee yourself an Orioles playoff berth by being required to eat a bowl of Skyline chili once a week for a year, would you do it?
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12:15 |
: I’m not ruining my stomach for a team that signs Alcides Escobar!
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12:15 |
: Harper and Machado are the same age and both Steamer and ZIPS project Machado to be better this year, but reports indicate Harper will get more money. Does this mean that Harper’s profile has a better aging curve? Or does it mean that teams think projections overestimate the value of defense? Or is Harper just more marketable?
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12:16 |
: I think we wait and see who gets what!
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12:16 |
: Hey Dan! Is it just me, or is there a semi-shortage of catching and third base prospects?
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12:17 |
: I don’t think 3B is all that bad. Now *1B*
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12:17 |
: What should we expect from Franmil Reyes this year? Is expecting a 60 run 70 RBI and 25 homers with a .265 average to over the top?
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12:17 |
: Problem is, Padres have done nothing to clean out the outfield jam
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12:17 |
: And throwing in the towels on Myers at 3B before spring even started made it worse
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12:17 |
: If you signed Bryce Harper to an 8 year contract (lets say 250 million). Would you rather he produced 10 WAR in the 1st 4 seasons, and 0 WAR for the next 4 OR puts up 5 WAR every season?
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12:17 |
: depends on the team
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12:17 |
: well no one just says “Babe” and means anyone other than Ruth
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12:18 |
: Who do ya think you are, the lawyers suing the company that makes Baby Ruth bars?
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12:18 |
: Would a system where profit was pooled and then redistributed by record work to create balance and encourage winning? Getting past the part where owners would be hard pressed to agree
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12:18 |
: I’m not sure WHAT works
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12:18 |
: Because you have several groups with differing motivations
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12:18 |
: rich owners, poor owners, veteran players, pre-FA players
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12:18 |
: Between STL stealing log-in information, Astros taking pictures of Red Sox signals, the Red Sox communicating with apple watches, allegations of a Blue Jays fan in the white shirt tipping pitches…How much cheating do you think actually happens in baseball?
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12:19 |
: Sports have a long history of cheating
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12:19 |
: Vegas has CHC 89.5 STL 88.5 MIL 86.5 CIN 79.5 and PIT 77.5. Any one or more of those make you itch to plop an over or under bet on?
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12:19 |
: No
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12:19 |
: It gets a little harder to find over/under opportunities every year
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12:19 |
: Would Manny be signed already if he were a 3rd baseman or is that not even a thing?
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12:20 |
: Not a thing
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12:20 |
: Standard WWE match – who you got, Eric Thames or Jesus Aguilar?
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12:20 |
: Thames
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12:21 |
: Have you seen Wil Myers’ new hair? I think it boosts his confidence and he’ll be the Myers the padres thought they acquired. The other possibility is that it falls out a third of the way thru the season and he’s completely deflated. I guess he could get an infection from it – that would be so Wil.
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12:21 |
: I haven’t seen his hair! Anyone got a link?
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12:21 |
: “ZiPS isn’t typically prone to overexcitement!”
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12:22 |
: Same WWE standard match – Tim Tebow vs Colin Kaepernick?
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12:22 |
: I think Kaepernick
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12:22 |
: Just how scared should we be that Escobar is going to make the Orioles? I know Elias is not Duquette, but still.
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12:22 |
: cautiously worried
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12:22 |
: Help! How is Max Keplers comp Robin Jennings, he of a career 226 PA’s, 64wRC+ and -1.4 WAR?
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12:22 |
: Other baseball exists.
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12:23 |
: If Jennings were 10 years younger, he would have had some kind of career
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12:23 |
: What is a realistic wrc+ for Luke Voit this year?
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12:23 |
: I don’t think the projection is unreasonable
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12:23 |
: Do you know if Fangraphs is going to provide DFS SaberSim projections this year?
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12:23 |
: No idea
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12:24 |
: Moose tacos sound like they at least have a chance to be good. Fried Bryce just sounds like cannibalism.
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12:24 |
: Is Aaron Hicks really the second-best CF in the AL?
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12:24 |
: Well, ZiPS says third-best, but yes, we’re in the timeline where Aaron Hicks developed into a borderline star.
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12:25 |
: I was told the Yankees dont need Bryce Harper because Brett Gardner is a comparable player. How should I react?
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12:25 |
: If there’s a table that’s unflipped nearby, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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12:25 |
: Why don’t the Reds trade Matt Kemp to the Indians? Make it salary neutral or whatever but that seems like a good move for all parties
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12:25 |
: I don’t think Kemp’s good enough to even make the Indians OF
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12:26 |
: What should fans expect of dear former prospect star David Dahl?
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12:26 |
: Occasional injuries, but the Rockies might be out of craptacular players to play over him
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12:27 |
: THough they still have 6 weeks to sign one
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12:27 |
Thanks! |
12:27 |
: After the final team (White Sox) goes on Friday!
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12:27 |
: Skyline Chili requests for you to cease making jokes about their high quality delicious chili or we shall see you in court…where we will have vats of our chili for jurors to eat and relish.
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12:27 |
: As long as the trial is somewhere with good taste, I’ll win
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12:27 |
: Do believe Zips is superior because it was the only projection system that correctly forecasts Kris Davis’s batting average for 2019? Are all other projection systems inherently flawed if they don’t return a .247 BA for Davis?
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12:27 |
: Yes and for exactly this reason
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12:27 |
: Over-under on Gallo hitting 53 HR’s?
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12:27 |
: Under
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12:27 |
: Any taste of what Jeff McNeil’s DEF projection would be in LF?
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12:28 |
: I think a few runs above avg
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12:28 |
: RE: If you signed Bryce Harper to an 8 year contract (lets say 250 million). Would you rather he produced 10 WAR in the 1st 4 seasons, and 0 WAR for the next 4 OR puts up 5 WAR every season? Why does it depend on the team?
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12:28 |
: Different teams have different needs
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12:28 |
: and different time scales
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12:28 |
: Imagine I’m the Royals. I probably don’t get anything out of the first 20 WAR and probably not the first 30
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12:28 |
: to the guy looking for fantasy leagues and/or owners: rotoworld.com –> formus –> baseball league finder service
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12:28 |
: If the Phillies sign Harper, are they the favorites for the NL East?
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12:29 |
: I believe marginally
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12:29 |
: Loser Leave Town Match. Alcides Escobar vs. Dan Szymborski. I would pay to watch that. Dan would eventually win cause Escobar can’t hit anything.
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12:29 |
: Who are the biggest names you could see getting moved at this years trade deadline?
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12:29 |
: Smoak
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12:30 |
: Castellanos if he’s not traded before that
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12:30 |
: Gennett if the year doesn’t work out fo rthe Reds
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12:31 |
: Any idea when ZIPS will be incorporated into players’ projections like depth charts / etc…?
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12:31 |
: After Friday
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12:31 |
: After, what I think was a good start to the offseason (Donaldson, McCann) the Braves have been idle. I don’t know but it seems like they could hav easily gotten Realmuto for a package built around a young pitcher and also went out and got Harper. You look at their payroll and after this year the only significant contract they have on the roster is Freeman. Just venting.
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12:32 |
: I do think they should have gotten involved in Harper
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12:32 |
: But I probably wouldn’t do both – if you’re paying Harper, you kinda want some of these guys to be cheap
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12:32 |
: Buster Olney put out an article today saying it would be dumb for the padres to sign Machado. What are your thoughts on that?
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12:32 |
: I haven’t read the article, but I would disagree with the concept in general terms
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12:32 |
: Is baseball morally superior to games that are time-resricted? Or am I watching too much bad college basketball this off-season?
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12:33 |
: Baseball’s time restricted in the sense that outs are the clock, not a temporal one!
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12:33 |
: Though I *am* an advocate for a pitch clock. I think baseball can use some time-related stress on the players
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12:33 |
: Hey Dan: I forgot to say I won’t have time for my team this year, so that’s why I’m looking to 2020
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12:33 |
: Think Josh Naylor ever plays for San Diego?
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12:33 |
: As a starter? No
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12:33 |
: I am upset with the lack of emoticons on your answers
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12:34 |
: ?
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12:34 |
: You can also cheat it seems
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12:34 |
: ???????
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12:34 |
: ???????????????????????? Will Smith!
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12:34 |
: Better bet to make the Reds roster: Connor Joe or Derek Dietrich? And I might be one of the few Cincinnati residents who agrees with your Skyline assessment.
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12:35 |
: Dietrich
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12:35 |
: Do I have more multi-use cigars than Brandon Nimmo has body hair follicles?
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12:35 |
: heh
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12:35 |
: Not the best closeup!
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12:36 |
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12:36 |
: I read that degrom uses lube instead of oil to break his glove in every year. can this account for his sexual 2018 performance and do you foresee this as a trend?
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12:37 |
: I don’t even know where to start unwrapping this
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12:37 |
: Which is more annoying: Daniel Poncedeleon now being Daniel Ponce de Leon, or Zach Britton now being Zack Britton?
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12:37 |
: Zack Britton. He was the Zach I actually remembered
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12:37 |
: I usually “fix” formatting in ZiPS obnoxiously
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12:38 |
: Like I always used Rick van den Hurk instead of the typical media Rick VandenHurk
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12:39 |
: I change it for the FG stuff, but he’s already Ponce de Leon, Daniel in my database
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12:39 |
: And I was doing Shohei Ohtani back when people were still doing Otani!
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12:39 |
: Alcides means “maker of outs” in Latvian – or so I’ve heard…
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12:40 |
: Who improves the most over last year, Heaney, Skaggs or Harvey?
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12:40 |
: Heaney=Boz > Harvey
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12:40 |
: What is the biggest impact move the Mets could still plausibly make this offseason?
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12:40 |
: HARPER
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12:40 |
: What would the ZiPS projections look like for Fernando Romero now that he’s been permanently moved to the bullpen?
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12:40 |
: I’ll have to re-run during the spring
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12:40 |
: Would it be refreshing if the Blue Jays said ” We are waiting to bring up Vlad Jr on xxxxxx date so we can control him for an additional year. He is ready now but we are making a financial decision for the club”. Period.
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12:40 |
: Yeah, but there aren’t any incentives to
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12:41 |
: The CBA needs to be fixed
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12:41 |
: Do you think Luke Voit will be a top home run guy this year? His wrc+ at the end of the year was mvp category.
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12:41 |
: Remember the Shane Greene Law: Minimal major league stats don’t cancel out everything that happened previously
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12:41 |
: He’s not a 188 wRC+ hitter
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12:42 |
: Brett Gardner is comparable to Bryce Harper in that they are both worlds better than you or I in the Yankees outfield
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12:43 |
: Thanks to Kevin the Comic for the suggestion.
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12:43 |
: Will Seuly Matias see AAA this year? He’s really good!
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12:43 |
: I think that’s a bit aggressive
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12:43 |
: He’s still very raw
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12:44 |
: He has big power upside and a Barfield arm, but Sally League pitchers still found holes in his game
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12:44 |
: What does Gio sign for at this point? I would love the Mets to sign him for depth at this point. Seems like the cost can’t be prohibitive
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12:44 |
: I think he ends up with similar to Moustakas
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12:44 |
: I’d bring him back if I’m the Nats
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12:44 | : In Finnish baseball, every other runner DOES go clockwise or counterclockwise. No flips though |
12:44 |
: The flips are what make it
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12:45 |
: When a pitcher has strong platoon splits, and is facing a hitter who a hitter has strong reverse platoon splits, are the advantages totally canceled out? Or does one side have a consistent advantage, i.e. a brutal lefty specialist is hard even for a lefty hitter who hits lefties well? Thanks for working on a holiday, Dan!
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12:45 |
: I’m actually working on a tool for matchups!
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12:45 |
: BUt it mostly cancels out, from what I’ve done, which is kinda boring
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12:46 |
: If Harper gets a little over 300, what’s Trout’s next contract look like? 8 for 400?
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12:46 |
: I dont think that it’ll be as large a difference as some think – the two years of age do matter
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12:47 |
: Have you done any work for individual game projections ala for daily fantasy purposes?
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12:47 |
: yup
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12:47 |
: Has there ever been a comprehensive study of how pitchers fare when they make two starts in a row against the same team?
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12:47 |
: Im unaware
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12:47 |
: Do you think if the Rockies tank in the standings they’d trade Arenado at the deadline? O
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12:47 |
: They avoid trading guys when they should, they’re going to be more resistant when they probably shouldn’t
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12:48 |
12:40 What is the biggest impact move the Mets could still plausibly make this offseason? – I think you meant to say “BARTOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” |
12:49 |
: why does ZiPS like Poche so much more than Andrew Vasquez? similar minor league numbers
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12:49 |
: I’d have to lok at the exact translations
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12:50 |
: Kluber is a trade deadline candidate, no?
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12:50 |
: Not really. I think he was simply an aspirational trade, one in which the Indians would be WILLING to trade him for the right price
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12:50 |
: As a Cubs fan, I’m not worried about the team not signing Harper and I do understand the starters could age very quickly. What I’m most worried about is the bullpen. Why aren’t they making it better?
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12:51 |
: I don’t think it’s *bad*, but it’s harder to make an impact with a reliever
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12:51 |
: Is that daily projection work available anywhere?
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12:51 |
: Work in progress
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12:52 |
: Why isn’t ZIPS all that thrilled about Duggar’s defence? Thought at the very least he could be a defence-first starter.
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12:52 |
: The ZIPS’s Total Zone thing it uses for the minors regularly has him unimpressively ranked
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12:52 |
: Cat update please?
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12:52 |
: Cassie came by with her hedgehog but lost interest when she heard the mailman upstairs
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12:53 |
: I heard Mercutio wailing in the kitchen for food, which he doesn’t get because he’s the fattest and it’s not close to dinner
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12:53 |
: Galileo is asleep on the living room couch after eating some brisket
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12:53 |
: Or, he was before the chat
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12:53 |
: I said that the Mets could PLAUSIBLY make. Wilpons won’t spend on Harper! think they could swing a deal for kluber or sign keuchel?
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12:53 |
: I think Harper is more plausible at this point than a trade for Kluber
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12:53 |
: Signing Keuchel would be fine though
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12:53 |
: 2019- Can Jeff McNeil hit over 350? Can peter Alonso hit over 40 bombs? Just say yes
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12:54 |
: No, probably not but plausible
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12:54 |
: Why was your mailman upstairs? Taking hostages to protest Escobar signing?
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12:54 |
: knocking on the door and leaving a pcakge
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12:54 |
: Bumgarner could get traded at deadline right
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12:54 |
: OH yeah, he could be
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12:54 |
: If Jason Heyward was on the open market this offseason, what do you think his value would be?
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12:55 |
: Lemme run zips for that
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12:55 |
: RE: fantasy league finder, try rotoworld forums, they specifically have this page and it gets a lot of traffic
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12:56 |
: 2/25
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12:57 |
: I don’t even think he’d get that
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12:57 |
: Bet your package is Baseball Prospectus 2019. Mine arrives tomorrow!
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12:57 |
: Mine came on Friday!
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12:57 |
: if the white sox are in on machado why aren’t the orioles
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12:57 |
: White Sox are a lot closer than the O’s
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12:57 |
: The O’s don’t have a quickie lets-shuffle-some-shit-around-and-party rebuild
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12:58 |
: The White Sox rebuild was like a plane crashed into your house
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12:58 |
: the O’s rebuild is like 1946 Ukraine
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12:58 |
: Seeing all these people on Twitter get their BP before me is very maddening
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12:59 |
: Hooray for backchannel media privilege!
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12:59 |
: It’s been frustrating as a Cubs fan watching other teams sign players to below market contracts while the Cubs spent $20m on a 35 year old Hamels. I’ve got to admit that Theo hasn’t been very creative lately.
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12:59 |
: $6 million was baked in if they didn’t sign him
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1:00 |
: Signing Hamels was essentially 1/14 decision. And I’d take that every day and twice on Sunday and then trade a few since I’ve accidentally signed eight Cole Hameli for five rotation spots
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1:00 |
: Is there a ranking of players who have made the largest improvements defensively over the course of their careers (while also remaining at a particular position)? I’m specifically thinking of Miguel Andujar and what the modal outcome would be for him defensively at 3B. There will obviously be some selection bias in this analysis since some players with poor defensive abilities just get shifted permanently to other positions (e.g., Ryan Braun).
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1:00 |
: I haven’t seen one, but it would be itneresting
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1:00 |
: My favorite example was Mickey Tettleton
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1:01 |
: As a prospect, he was thought of as a defense-first guy that couldn’t hit that well
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1:01 |
: and eventually that flipped!
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1:01 |
: Soto or Acuña to have the better career?
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1:01 |
: ZiPS has ’em neck and neck once the latter is in center
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1:01 |
: How many years can JD Martinez perform like last year? How many years does he have left in the tank ?
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1:01 |
: Well, I believe we’re doing ZiPS *three* year in the player pages this year, so you can check there!
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1:02 |
: So Dave Dombrowski says he’s only going to carry two catchers this year. Is this the year Blake Swihart finally gets some regular at bats? Will he finally show his talents or disappoint?
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1:02 |
: The third catcher has to walk his damn self.
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1:02 |
: It be fitting I am the last comment so I can live in your head rent free for another week Szymborski. I will even take Machado’s old locker to boot! Now to find some delicious crab cakes.
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1:02 |
: And on that note, time to leave for another week!
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1:02 |
: Thanks for joining us!
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1:02 |
: Well me
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1:02 |
: I’m here by myself, alone as when I eventually die.
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1:03 |
: REMEMBER TO HANG YOUR PATRIOT STOCKINGS ON YOUR FIRE PLACE IF YOU WANT SANTA HARDING TO LEAVE YOU CANDY MADE FROM EAGLES
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1:03 |
: OH, it was UPS guy not mailman
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1:04 |
: It would’ve been weird if mailman
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
In reference to LBC Dan’s comment: I have a few different leagues in need of replacement owners. One is a 17 team dynasty roto with a 36 man roster. The other is a keeper 16 teams keep 12. Send me an email at JuniorFan88MountainDewRules@gmail for more info.
Wow I butchered that. LFC Mike’s question.
There’s also the findaleague subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/findaleague
Appreciate the help from everyone. Got a post up on rotoworld forum today.
That CANNOT be a real email address.
It is. I made it just for fantasy leagues. So when trying to fill my league openings, maybe the ridiculous email would stick & help sway someone to respond.
Big Jimmie Johnson fan I take it.?