Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 6/10/2019
12:01 |
: The prophecy of the chat has been fulfilled.
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12:01 |
: Brandon Lowe has been fun to watch, but there must be some regression on the way, right? What’s a realistic expectation for his ROS?
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12:01 |
: I actually had a dream about Brandon Lowe the other night that had no extra base hits and I decided to model ISO by BMI out of curiosity
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12:02 |
: But for some reason, Lowe was 6-6 and huge in my dream, which he is not.
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12:02 |
: The power is likely real, but I expect the BA to come down somewhat
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12:03 |
: Where is the Szymborski prospect list?!?!
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12:03 |
: Coming! I’m finishing anothe rproject for the site first.
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12:03 |
: Dan, do think Matt Boyd can command a haul at the trade deadline? Comparable to Archer/Quintana packages, or is that a bit strong? SDP makes a lot of sense
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12:04 |
: I suspect the Tigers don’t trade Boyd.
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12:04 |
: They wouldn’t trade Fulmer when it made obvious sense.
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12:05 |
: So I’m not sure they’re going to be interested in trading someone who now appears better than Fulmer who they have a *better* shot at having when they’re good again
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12:05 |
: Is Boyd’s breakout for real, either as an ace or just a top of the rotation arm?
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12:07 |
: I think he’s mostly for real – it’s not fueled by some weird BABIP jump. I do think he could use one more pitch though.
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12:08 |
: His locations have been incredible this year, he’s kinda got the hang of his slider that he fixed up last year
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12:09 |
: He used to throw it a lot harder and since, it’s largely supplanted his changeup
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12:09 |
: I’d kinda like to see the curve more and a bit more variation in the slider speed though. I think it woudl give his repertoire additional heft.
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12:09 |
: Dan, I may have missed the announcement but did you ever reveal your 2019 season win total (and player prop) picks? I remember you mentioning you had feelings about San Diego that almost met the threshold of the 2018 Braves, so I figure they’re among your plays. Let me know so I can root along with you when I’m watching some random Monday night June game when one of your picks is involved.
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12:12 |
: I didn’t do an official prop picks piece. Other pieces came up and I never got to it.
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12:12 |
: I only did four team over/unders this year, all NL West teams
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12:12 |
: Padres over 78.5, Rockies under 84.5, Diamondbacks over 75.5, Giants under 73.5
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12:13 |
: While ZiPS justified an Indians bet, the team’s OF downside and depth really worried me.
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12:13 |
: The error bars were too large to me for a team over 90
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12:13 |
: I’m not a compulsive bettor. I bet if I see opportunities. I don’t if I don’t.
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12:14 |
: I generally do fewer bets because as public uses more projections and Vegas is long been aware of projections, you start to see fewer bet vs. projection discrepancies
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12:14 |
: Between Reyes and Renfroe, which one should the Padres build around or can they carry two guys with such similar profiles?
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12:14 |
: Franmillionaire.
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12:14 |
: Do you think that social media has contributed to a degradation of language? For example: (replying to an article about vlad jr maybe being in HR derby) “This would be AMAZING”…..would it? Or would it actually just be par for the course, as the type of thing one would expect from the HR Derby?
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12:15 |
: LIkely, but I think that was already happening.
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12:15 |
: Louis CK did a bit about that, someone saying something was amazing and it was something mundane and something amazing should like explode your brain
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12:15 |
: (I think the word was amazing)
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12:15 |
: That’s why we should invent new words.
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12:15 |
: And we get new words from culture
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12:16 |
: My mom’s Michael Scott in some ways, so I’ve taught her words like awesomesauce and amazeballs which she uses in conversations.
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12:16 |
: Talk to me about Darvish! He’s cutting the walks, bit by bit, and still not giving up many bombs. I’m bullish
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12:16 |
: I’m moderately
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12:16 |
: It’s been happening bit by bit but I wish the bit velocity was higher
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12:16 |
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12:16 |
: That’s fair.
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12:16 |
: REmember I wrote about him!
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12:17 |
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12:17 |
: In your article on Keuchel, you mentioned the most likely scenario is Gausman to the ‘pen. ZiPS, however, likes Gausman over Teheran ROS. What are your thoughts?
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12:17 |
: I think the Braves are being a little risk-averse.
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12:17 |
: It’s hard to demote the guy with the good ERA over the guy over six, in reality.
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12:17 |
: (demote as in bullpen)
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12:18 |
: And as I said, I’m uneasy about the narrowing of Gausman’s repertoire. He may simply be a better bullpen fit right now
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12:18 |
: Walrus mustache, mutton chops, or Van Dyke?
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12:18 |
: Depends on the face shape!
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12:18 |
: Who are two ideal pitchers the Twins should target at the trade deadline since Kimbrel and Keuchel signed elsewhere?
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12:19 |
: Bumgarner is the obvious one.
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12:19 |
: Though I’d love someone to send a spy to infiltrate the Nationals and see if they throw in the towel
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12:19 |
: Because I’d want to swoop in and some Strasburg action!
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12:19 |
: What non-panic moves could Cleveland make to turn the season around?
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12:19 |
: I’m not sure they have many at their disposal.
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12:20 |
: They’ll probalby turn it around for the wild card without doing anything major
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12:20 |
: but they won’t win the ALC without anything major (and probably not with anything major anyway)
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12:20 |
: The essentially need to add payroll that they weren’t willing to do a few months ago
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12:20 |
: …so did you ever get Giordano’s? What did you think?
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12:20 |
: It was great! Though the Lou Malnati’s was better
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12:21 |
: But it’s nice having that in a 20 minute drive rather than a 300 minute one
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12:21 |
: is matt carpenter facing real age related regression? what’s going on?
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12:21 |
: I think he is, but I say that every year. I said that last year and he had four months of in-season MVP performance
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12:21 |
: Time to worry about Lorenzo Cain? Age, not really running, declining peripherals…should I be playing guys like Bryan Reynolds over him in a H2h categories league?
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12:21 |
: Not quite yet
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12:22 |
: The sun came up this morning, will go down tonight, and Mike Trout has caught up to Cody Bellinger for the WAR lead.
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12:22 |
: Good Monday grizzled and caveman like Dan. You never have to get a haircut for us. What a weekend of bad news… Big Papi obviously the worst news.. then Brent Honeywell fractures his elbow in a bullpen session..I feel for that guy so much….. and closer to home.. How is Galileo recovering? Any sympathy from his friends? With that we are done with the bad news.. on to positive baseball and random stuff talk
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12:22 |
: I was so sad to see the papi news!
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12:22 |
: I was a little behind because I was playing a game of Total Wawr
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12:22 |
: War
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12:22 |
: Galileo’s fine. They drained his abscess and cleaned the wound.
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12:23 |
: I was freaking out when I woke up! It looked like there was a golf ball on his chin.
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12:23 |
: His normal vet couldn’t see him until 11 AM, so I brought him to the pet ER
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12:23 |
: WHen Galileo won’t eat, something is REALLY wrong.
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12:24 |
: He was cooperative and more or less back to normal.
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12:24 |
: He was back at home and ready to eat again by noon.
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12:24 |
: I’ve been washing his chin a couple times a day – there’s been no additional drainage since about midday yesterday
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12:25 |
: So he’s fine and lives to eat my dinner another day!
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12:25 |
: What would making the ball heavier do in terms of contributing to or counteracting the three true outcome environment?
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12:25 |
: I’m not sure about a heavier ball, I’d like them to deal with the easier issues before something that severe
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12:25 |
: White Sox twitter killed me for hitting Jose Rondon ahead of Eloy/Anderson on Saturday. Scale of 1-10 how bad was that decision?
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12:26 |
: HOnestly, lineup decisions have to be absoultely batshit insane to matter objectively
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12:26 |
: The Braves offense appears to go from decent to world beating after the 7th inning. Have they just been hitting a streak of weak bullpens?
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12:26 |
: This kind of thing is volatile.
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12:26 |
: You see anything different from berrios this year that makes you think hell maintain his current production? Last year he had a similar start and faded. Just the typical ebbs and flows of a young pitcher?
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12:26 |
: I think the latter really
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12:26 |
: How do you have the NL East finishing?
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12:26 |
: Atlanta slight edge
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12:26 |
: According to ZiPS, what are the chances that the sun does NOT rise tomorrow?
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12:26 |
: I don’t project stellar evolution, but infintesimally close to zero
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12:27 |
: The sun wouldn’t disappear just like that after all
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12:27 |
: Which I told my mom when I was hanging out with her the other day
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12:27 |
: “Danny, it’s quite dark for noon, is it supposed to rain today?”
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12:27 |
: “Well, geez mom, what would make it dark at noon? The sun going out? Surprise eclipse”
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12:28 |
: Now, the sun could go out, but I guess as part of some kind of vacuum metastability event
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12:28 |
: which would off us pretty quick too
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12:28 |
: Which current or former ballplayer would you most want to sit next to you on a flight? And it cannot be Jose Canseco because the airline permanently banned him.
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12:28 |
: Would love to get some video game talking time with Trevor May
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12:28 |
: A couple of years ago a guy in America and a guy in India decided to make an Earth Sandwich, so they both went outside and simultaneously put slices of bread on the ground, and sent each pictures of them doing so. Was the Earth, at this time, a sandwich?
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12:30 |
: If it was in fact the opposite point, then yes
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12:30 |
: But only if someone is holding both sides
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12:30 |
: so you’d need someone with a REALLY big hand
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12:30 |
: What’s your voting methodology for the all Star game? (If you vote at all)
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12:31 |
: I haven’t voted in a while. I used to use some current true ability estimate
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12:31 |
: But in reality, the All-Star Game is the least interesting part of All-Star Week for me.
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12:31 |
: I’ll be in Cleveland, but I’m only staying for the other stuff.
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12:32 |
: By the way, tickets for our FanGraphs event in Cleveland for All-Star Week are for sale!
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12:33 |
: It probably will not happen, but if the Royals traded Whit Merrifield at the deadline, what would the return look like?
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12:33 |
: Adam Eatonish?
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12:33 |
: If the Red Sox are a .500 team in mid-July, are they buyers or sellers at the trade deadline?
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12:33 |
: They might do some mild retooling as in a few years ago, but no major selling.
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12:34 |
: What is the best room in your house?
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12:34 |
: My office.
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12:34 |
: I’ve got three big screen TVs on the opposite wall, between 4-6 PCs at any given time
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12:34 |
: and in the hottest days of summer, it stays a chill 59 degrees or so
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12:35 |
: Plus, it’s next to the bathroom that has a dedicated bathroom laptop
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12:35 |
: and I can do laundry!
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12:35 |
: Mad Bum’s response to being told that he should let the kids play is that is form of letting the kids play is to tell the kids not to play. Thus, the paradox of intolerance makes its way into baseball.
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12:35 |
: Is it just me or are the White Sox starting to look like one-year-early FA players this winter? Starting to fill a bunch of holes internally, Madrigal is raking in the high minors, etc.
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12:36 |
: They may be. They’ve gotten better pitching news from the people that haven’t had TJ surgery
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12:36 |
: You can feel the team really start coming together in a way you didn’t last year
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12:36 |
: Regarding you saying that the Tigers won’t trade Boyd. Shouldn’t they trade him though? Just because his value will likely never be higher. Shouldn’t all clubs be looking to sell high on certain occasions, regardless of timing as it relates to winning/losing cycles?
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12:36 |
: They probably *should* but it’s a moot point
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12:37 |
: Is it time to cut bait on Spencer Turnbull? Pick-up PabLo instead?
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12:37 |
: You’re a greedy greedy man
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12:37 |
: What the was the ESPN swag you got?
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12:37 |
: I never thought about getting much swag
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12:38 |
: But I *did* get to Town Car from the airport!
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12:39 |
: and the time they rented me a car, it was a really nice Infiniti SUV
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12:39 |
: Though a little large for my tastes – my cars have been a Ford Tempo, a Mazda 6, and now a Subaru Crosstrek, so I’m comfortable in smaller cars.
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12:39 |
: I guess the 6 was technically a midsize, but it wa sa smaller midsize
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12:39 |
: Do you see any legitimate justification for the Padres keeping Urias down in AAA other than the price tag on Kinsler’s salary?
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12:39 |
: The Padres haven’t done many service time games, but he should be up
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12:39 |
: Is Jose Suarez going to get legit shot at rotation or headed back down?
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12:40 |
: I think they have to see what sticks to the wall
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12:40 |
: #prayforbigpapi. So according to fangraphs, Redsox projected standings right now to win 90 games this season. 7 games back in division. Will they make playoffs or missed it? Will they do anything drastic in trading deadline, sell off pieces, ?
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12:40 |
: I don’t think they go all-in if it looks like upside
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12:40 |
: How do you weigh ZiPS vs personal opinion?
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12:40 |
: Depends. I don’t have like some set thing
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12:40 |
: The word from the bit was “awesome.”
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12:40 |
: Austin Riley’s OPS has regressed to .939. Would it be a good idea to send him back to AAA when Inciarte is ready to return?
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12:40 |
: As my friend Chris Dial would say, plastic bag and a rubber band!
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12:41 |
: So Kyle Hendricks is 8th in pitcher fWAR and he’s not getting much all star hype. The dude is too damn good. Any ideas on how to get him to Cleveland?
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12:41 |
: You can take I-90 pretty much the whole way
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12:42 |
: Is a bay the ocean?
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12:42 |
: Wait, I should give a real answer
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12:42 |
: Henricks has a real shot, his traditional ERA is quite solid
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12:43 |
: It’s tricky, because pitchers are picked by player ballot and MLB
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12:43 |
: I’m back from lunch, Dan. You can start the chat
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12:43 |
: OH GOD I ALREADY DID, WE GOTTA START OVER
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12:43 |
: Please don’t make fun of me in your chats, dear.
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12:43 |
: My mom would never call me dear
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12:44 |
: Dan, if you don’t like the way I’m reading this chat, get it out of the ocean.
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12:44 |
: I think bays have to be surrounded by a certain percentage of land
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12:44 |
: and lots don’t have same salt content, like chesapeake bay
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12:44 |
: Do you think Raisel Iglesias stays in Cincinnati or is he trade piece? Looking
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12:44 |
: If they were going to trade him, they would have in 2017
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12:46 |
: Do you have any thoughts on Ashton Goudeau and his amazing AA statline? Granted he is a 26 year old in AA, but he looks like a completely different pitcher than in the past and I can’t really find any more detailed info about him
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12:46 |
: Last I saw goudeau, he was a low 90s fastball guy, pretty normal curve/change repertoire IIRC
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12:46 |
: Haven’t actually watched him this year
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12:46 |
: Is it morally ok to watch movies given Hollywood’s shameful treatment of legendary actress Lori Loughlin?
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12:46 |
: lol
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12:47 |
: Giordano’s is crap pizza, and shouldn’t be uttered in the same conversation as Lou’s.
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12:47 |
: I’m not joining this argument! WHen I mentioned there was a place in my area, my twitter timeline turned into people arguing about it
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12:47 |
: and telling me OTHER places to go in Chicago
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12:48 |
: WHen the whoe point was that this one was 20 minutes away from me because I live in Ohio
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12:48 |
: Anyway, I’ll take art for art
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12:49 |
: When I hear a symphony, I don’t really care about who wrote it
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12:49 |
: Meg seems negative about trader jerry’s future with the Mariners. Any thoughts about how long he will last?
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12:49 |
: Depends on results
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12:49 |
: I like to imagine that as Dipoto feels pressure, the trades start coming fast and furious to the extent that he’s trading prospects before he acquires them, leading him into making constant trades because he’s kiting prospects.
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12:51 |
: “WE NEED TO ACQUIRE YUSNIEL DIAZ RIGHT NOW?” “Why Jerry?” “BECAUSE I TRADED HIM TO THE BREWERS ON THURSDAY AND THEY’RE ASKING ME WHY HE HASN’T ARRIVED YET.”
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12:51 |
: Any indication Puig ever breaks out of this funk, or is this a season long slump he’s in?
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12:51 |
: I’m quite worried.
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12:51 |
: I think the Dodgers did a better job restraining his weaker instincts at the plate
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12:51 |
: Hey Dan! Can we talk about David Ortiz? First, prayers are with him. Second – and not important, just have to ask – does this incident buy him immunity from the ped discussion when his HOF voting comes up? I mean, parts of 3 organs removed.. Gnarly.
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12:51 |
: I think he probably had immunity anyway
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12:52 |
: PED immunity is always given arbitrarily
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12:52 |
: If Jeter had tested positive for something, a lot of writers would just assume that Jeter enhanced the steroids, not the other way around
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12:52 |
: with Giolito thriving and the eventual call up of Cease, do you think White Sox could finish the year at .500?
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12:52 |
: Es possible
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12:52 |
: I think Bumgarner is kinda a douche, and needs to chill out. That said, doesn’t he have a point that his behavior is just him being him? Let the kid play. (Just don’t hit people)
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12:53 |
: I don’t mind trash-talking and stuff. I just don’t want people to take cheap shots that physically risk the health of other people.
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12:53 |
: Re Earth Sandwich: Are you saying that a sandwich is not a sandwich unless the top and bottom bread is placed in perfect synchronicity, and this is no room for error?
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12:53 |
: Not perfect, but it has to be some margin of error
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12:53 |
: maybe within 5%?
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12:53 |
: Like at least 95% of the bread has to be parallel to another piece of bread?
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12:53 |
: It’s not like I have a ruler with sandwiches
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12:53 |
: Yelich is 5 HRs away from surpassing his preseason ZiPS projection and we haven’t even hit the ASB
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12:53 |
: He good
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12:54 |
: what does your ideal 2019 Home Run derby field look like?
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12:54 |
: PITCHERS
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12:54 |
: Let’s do a pitcher one one year!
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12:54 |
: Hang on, someone needs to be holding the bread for it to be a sandwich? So if a sandwich is sitting on the counter but no one is holding it, is it therefore both a sandwich and not a sandwich? Schrodingers Sandwich
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12:54 |
: But the earth isn’t on a plate
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12:54 |
: it’s just kinda floating around
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12:54 |
: US doesn’t have an antipode that would work. Spain-New Zealand is an option though, I think. Among others.
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12:54 |
: I dunno, it could be an french dip earth sandwich with the ocean
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12:54 |
: Can I come live in your office?
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12:55 |
: It would involve living with me, which nobody really should want
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12:55 |
How do you get a bunch of Canadians out of the pool on the hottest day of summer? …. You yell, “everybody out of the pool!” |
12:55 |
: I’ve made tha tjoke!
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12:55 |
: It’s amazing just how much the Padres missed a 20 year-old rookie. Tatis is special.
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12:55 |
: As a practicing astrophysicist, I hereby award you three pinocchios to your, “the Sun could go out” comment. Which is significant, since that brings up your running total of false comments in the history of this Chat to [checks notes] we need new math.
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12:55 |
: I said the sun COULDN’T just go out
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12:55 |
: didn’t I?
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12:55 |
: It would need a vacuum metastability event or something, no?
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12:56 |
: In real life, Von Hayes would never stand for you answering Kyle Hendricks #1 fan before him.
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12:56 |
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12:57 |
: Dan, what are your thoughts on cutting bagels St. Louis style?
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12:57 |
: OH god, do I want to know what that is?
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12:57 |
: JFC
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12:57 |
: I did not
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12:58 |
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12:59 |
: Giordanao’s : Pizza :: Dan’s pinions on chili : Correct opinions on chili
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12:59 |
: The pieces of bread have to overlap at least
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12:59 |
: So, if neil armstrong had a sandwich on his way to the moon, and momentarily let go of said sandwich, allowing to to float in space…it would for that moment not be a sandwich?
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12:59 |
: I’ll have to consider that
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12:59 |
: What’s the deal with Mikolas? Most underlying numbers look identical to last year (so/9, w/9, babip, etc.), but allowing tons of HRs. Is this just a luck (bad luck, specifically) based issue?
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12:59 |
: I think he’ll be OK, but just not as good as last year
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12:59 |
: Please tell Khaki Segura I want to learn two astrophysics facts today.
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1:01 |
: helium can’t be solid, IIRC
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1:01 |
: Do you think MLB is considering expanding Division Series’ to 7 games?
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1:01 |
: No
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1:01 |
: I respect anyone’s choice to become an Astrophysicist, but why would anyone want to study the movement of the Jetsons’ dog?
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1:02 |
: Which pitching prospect from the Orioles do you like the best? Easy answer is Hall or Rodriguez, but there is something about Lowther I really like.
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1:02 |
: Hall’s my favorite
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1:03 |
: But I might like Rodriguez even more simply because he probably has a relatively high floor
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1:03 |
: Though you could say that about Lowther
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1:04 |
: I think the problem with Lowther is that he’s older than the other two
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1:04 |
: I think the biggest hole in the Earth Sandwich Theory is that India and North American are on the same flat plane.
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1:04 |
: helium can be a solid but its very rare
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1:04 |
: Oh, it can?
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1:04 |
: I thought it couldn’t be cold enough
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1:04 |
: less games (150ish) or expansion to 32 teams?
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1:04 |
: banned for “less”
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1:04 |
: sandwiches dont exist in space, not enough gravity to keep bread together without use of hands or a toothpick
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1:04 |
: The moon landing is fake. This is the moon and the moon is earth. We’ve been there the whole time.
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1:05 |
: All this sandwich talk is just a smoke screen so you can eat all the pierogi.
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1:05 |
: Cat Updates?
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1:05 |
: Guess we’ll finish with the required cat update
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1:05 |
: Already gave the full Galileo update
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1:05 |
: Mercutio, easily the dumbest cat I’ve ever had, took two days to remember who Galileo was.
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1:06 |
: (he’s an extremely friendly, good-natured cat, but he’s dumber than a bag of nickels)
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1:06 |
: Cassiopeia has been doing the usual, bringing me that damn toy hedgehog
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1:06 |
: summertime suggestion for the heat wave on the west coast: chili beans will in fact make you feel chilly.
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1:06 |
: What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
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1:06 |
: Never bet on a coin toss
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1:06 |
: Wasn’t one of the first experiments done on the ISS an accidental experiment that showed how particles naturally move towards each other in space – thus illustrating the basis of planetary formation? Wouldn’t this concept keep a sandwich together?
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1:06 |
: so my hot dog buns unexpectedly went moldy but I’d already started heating 2 hot dogs. I improvised with a bagel, tearing it in half and using the slice so now I have four pieces, creating sort of buns but they’re not connected. it’s structurally unstable but the real important question: well, you know
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1:07 |
: just make batter and deep fry it!
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1:07 |
: How tired is the Bumgarner stuff. Soft tossing command/deception lefty tough guy
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1:07 |
: I don’t mind trash talk. Just let’s not have in-game violence.
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1:07 |
: If you want to challenge someone to an offseason boxing match for charity or something, have at it.
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1:08 |
: And on that note, I will wrap this up for another week!
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1:08 |
: Thanks for joining me everyone!
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1:08 |
: And remember to grab your tickets to the Cleveland FanGraphs event if you’re in the area around the All-Star Game!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.