Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 8/13/20
12:03 |
: Hello chatters and chatees
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12:03 |
: The Orioles will win 28 or more games. True or false.
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12:03 |
: EVER? True.
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12:03 |
: Kyle Hendricks is good at pitching baseballs
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12:04 |
: After facing his curve and change, Hendricks fastballs look like Jordan Hicks
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12:04 |
: Well, Jordan Hicks fastballs. They don’t actually look like Jordan Hicks
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12:05 |
: Though that would be a really effective changeup: making batters not swing because they think a dude is running to the plate really fast.
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12:05 |
: Greetings Dan. Assume you are starting a franchise today, not a Skyline Chile franchise mind you, but an actual baseball franchise. To start your team: Soto, Acuna, Tatis Jr. or Mr. X (parts unknown, weight unknown).
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12:05 |
: Probably Tatis because position.
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12:05 |
: gotta love Dustin May. I’m a little more uncertain for fantasy. Is his stuff conducive to lots of strikeouts at some point? He seems to not have been a huge k/9 guy at any point yet
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12:06 |
: I think the strikeouts will eventually come, though I’d really like to see a real change in his arsenal
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12:06 |
: Dan let’s get this dance over with so we can both move past it. I’m going to say “Kyle Lewis is awesome” you are going to say “August”. Glad we could do this again this week
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12:06 |
: I can’t anymore because the season’s nearly a third over!@
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12:07 |
: We’re almost in June. April is over.
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12:07 |
: But again, .438 BABIP
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12:09 |
: Now there’s evdience that he can support a high BABIP
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12:09 |
: Based on his season so far, ZiPS has his zBABIP for 2020 at .351
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12:10 |
: But knock off 80 points of BABIP and he’s a 258/325/434 guy with meh defense.
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12:10 |
: Whicih is better than expectations, but a little more normal
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12:10 |
: Feeeed Greg Biiiiird, tuppence a bag, tuppence, tuppence, tuppence a bag. Feeeed Greg Biird, that’s what she cries, while overhead Greg Birds fill the skies.
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12:11 |
: Greg Birdman!
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12:11 |
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12:11 |
: Is Tatis > Acuña official?
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12:11 |
: I love Acuña, but I would have taken Tatis before the season
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12:11 |
: But this is a why not both thing
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12:12 |
: Do you think the Tigers should/will call up Mize after their hot start?
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12:12 |
: I think if he doesn’t get some real starts this year, the Tigers have failed on thsi point.
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12:12 |
: what is wrong with griffin canning? Shouldn’t he be pitching better with his swinging strike rate being so high?
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12:12 |
: Hard to say as I haven’t dug deeply into Canning. I can pull up his zSO though!
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12:16 |
: ZiPS only thinks he’s 1.5 Ks down from where he “should” be
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12:17 |
: The swinging strike rate is above-average, but his contact numbers haven’t been
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12:18 |
: is Jon Gray actually good?
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12:18 |
: Yes. And he’s been good.
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12:18 |
: Updated probability of a .400 hitter? Favorites?
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12:18 |
: Haven’t done, but Blackmon has some things going in his favor.
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12:18 |
: ZiPS is already projecting a 50/50 endpoint of .378 for him.
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12:19 |
: BABIP across the league being way down — and it’s down for established players too — has really hurt the .400 odds across the board
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12:19 |
: How on earth are the Cardinals going to finish the season? They have played 5 games!
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12:19 |
: They’re not.
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12:19 |
: I don’t know exactly what MLB is going to do, but I’d be surprised if the Cardinals play more than 50 games.
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12:19 |
: we look back at players that were underappreciated in their time. what players in the game today do we underappreciate because of how we understand baseball in 2020?
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12:20 |
: Depends how you’re defining the word.
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12:20 |
: I don’t know what we’re doing wrong in 2020, or else I’d not be doing it!
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12:21 |
: who has the best ROS outlook: glasnow, lamet, or marquez?
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12:21 |
: Marquez
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12:21 |
: Thoughts on David Bell this year? Between the lineups and in-game tactics, he’a been terrible IMO. Last night’s 9th was horrid. Related: how can I show the win probabilities relating to his moves to a friend? They’re on here somewhere, I just haven’t found in a clear format I can share.
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12:21 |
: I’m trying not to establish *any* thoughts about lineups/tactics this year because this one is such an odd one.
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12:22 |
: It would be like awarding Michelin stars based on which chefs cook the best omelet while sitting in a roller coaster car with a hotplate.
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12:22 |
: Is xBABIP a thing?
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12:22 |
: The concept usually is! I do zBABIP, and I guess you guys can guess where the z is from!
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12:22 |
: What does ZiPS think Lemahieu’s next contract will look like? Which team do you think it will be with?
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12:23 |
: ZiPS right now says 3/64. He *will* be a 32-year-old 2B, after all
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12:23 |
: Do you think Devers is a top 10 bat por the next 5 years ?
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12:25 |
: Purely as a bat? No.
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12:25 |
: At what point do we start to worry about Vlad Jr? He hits the ball on the ground far too often and now that he plays 1B only he brings no defensive value (not that he ever did)
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12:25 |
: I’m already mildly worried.
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12:25 |
: For these reasons!
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12:26 |
: I like the questions that you guys also answer for me! We can do way more that way
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12:26 |
: Alec Bohm just got promoted apparently
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12:26 |
: Kevin Gausman, is this turnaround real? Can he be a reliable SP?
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12:26 |
: I’ve been touting him forever in breakout type pieces, so I’m not off the bandwagon now!
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12:27 |
: ZiPS had him as nearly the equal of Bumgarner this offseason as a pitcher
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12:27 |
: Is Alex Cobb really improved?
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12:27 |
: I dont’ think he’s truly been healthy as an Oriole. His splitter is looking like it did pre surgery
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12:28 |
: Is it to early to panic about Yelich?
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12:28 |
: Panic? Too early. Extreme concern? Maybe not.
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12:29 |
: He’s somehow pulled off the feat of becoming more selective yet making worse contact
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12:30 |
: Is Cronenworth the Padres own Ben Zobrist lite?
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12:30 |
: It’s so weird, he was like the perfect Ray in playe rtype!
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12:31 |
: Now, he’s not THIS good, but there was reasonable evidence to think he could be a dynamite role player
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12:31 |
: If the Mets and Phillies finish behind the Marlins I think relegation is in order
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12:31 |
: Any thoughts on the possibility of Bauer using pine tar or some other mixture to raise spin rate?
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12:31 |
: As I said in the article, I only know what I can prove.
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12:31 |
: If he continues to hit like he has, do you think Nick Castellanos is likely to opt out of the remaining 3-years and $48 million on his Reds contract?
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12:32 |
: At this point, I think it’s likely, unless the economy looks REALLY awful in 3 months
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12:32 |
: How long did it take Zips to realize Trout was the best player it had ever projected?
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12:33 |
: He had the best ever rookie projection before 2012 and I believe the most projected WAR for any projection before 2013.
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12:33 |
: It’s a little tricky in that I didn’t project WAR for most of the 2000s. But I don’t see anyone who comes close.
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12:33 |
: Is projected wRC+ the mean or median of the spectrum of possible outcomes?
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12:34 |
: It’s a little more complex, but ZiPS is generally the median
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12:34 |
: Why is it so difficult for the internet in general to accept that the Astros cheating is wrong, but also that Joe Kelly is still an idiot
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12:34 |
: Because the internet is dumb.
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12:35 |
: Because we are dumb.
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12:35 |
: I think i am going online today to buy skyline chilli just so I can know what you guys are talking about and have my own opinion on it!
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12:35 |
: Don’t save me leftovers
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12:35 |
: re: David Bell. I think Baseball Prospectus has a manager rating stat called wRM+
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12:35 |
: Do you think Hanser Alberto can sustain this?
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12:35 |
: No
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12:37 |
: Can Benintendi turn it around or is he just a bad player now?
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12:37 |
: I think there’s still hope, but there was already real concern that he wasn’t really a 2019 type of player and he’s just been awful
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12:37 |
: Where do I find zBABIP?
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12:38 |
: I post it at times. We don’t yet have it automated (yet), so it’s not avaialble on a daily basis to the public
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12:38 |
: Isn’t babip and batting average up an absurd amount this week, like league wide teams are hitting .280 this week or something? i know i checked a few days ago and it was .229, and someone said it was back up to like .238 or something.
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12:38 |
: Yeah, they had a normal weak in the .290s for BABIP
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12:38 |
: I don’t know why everyone is so worked up about schools opening, we should’ve gone to uploading information directly into our brains long ago, like they do in that documentary about the matrix
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12:38 |
: Is the “z” in zBABIP from “chili with beanz” or “chili five wayz”?
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12:38 |
: Eww
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12:39 |
: Depth Charts has the Padres as the 4th best team ROS???
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12:39 |
: I’m not seeing what you’re looking at.
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12:40 |
: In depth charts, the ROS WAR is 13th.
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12:42 |
: Should the Cubs be finding more at bats for Hoerner? I know Kipnis has been good, but will it stunt Hoerner’s growth to not play more? Hoerner looks like a possible future all star.
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12:42 |
: If the Cubs run away with the division, I can see him getting more time
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12:43 |
: Will the Angles make the postseason this year? I would LOVE to see Trout playing in the playoffs again
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12:43 |
: It’s tough. 7-12 is a significant hole in a 60-game seaosn
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12:43 |
: Pujols and Upton have been black holes and the pitching has been mildly barfy
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12:44 |
: Several players have started their season in a way that is distinctly unlike their previous seasons. Some have been downright awful. With all of the weirdness associated with this season, are you going to be more or less likely to think that a player’s downturns(or upticks) are real or not? I’ve personally been much more inclined to just go “meh” to everything and I’m not sure that’s the right way to do it.
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12:44 |
: That’s about my answer too. The circumstances are beyond bizarre.
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12:44 |
: In the Projected Standings 2020 Rest of Season Win%. Maybe it includes SOS?
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12:45 |
: Unfortunately, I have little to do with that area, so I don’t have any particularly insight into those calculations.
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12:45 |
: Apparently they are using my street to train new school bus drivers. If only I had a zombie flash mob ready to go.
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12:45 |
: Other than the teams “punished”, what % of teams do you think did some sort of cheating type gaming the system that went unnoticed?
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12:45 |
: I’m fairly confident most teams push the envelope in one way or another.
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12:46 |
: Romano vs. Bass? 12-team roto
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12:46 |
: I’m not sure I’d be rostering either in a 12-team, but Romano’s upside strikes me as more itneresting
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12:46 |
: I can already feel myself ascribing meaning to the 2020 performances I was rooting for and dismissing the 2020 performances that did not fit my preconceived notions. I’m bad at being a fan.
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12:46 |
: The umping seems particularly bad this year, especially the variability of the strike zone. How long til we have robo-umps?
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12:46 |
: I really hope soon.
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12:47 |
: So who’s your pick for the NL East?
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12:47 |
: Braves
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12:47 |
: Same as my preseason pick.
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12:49 |
: Where do you see Bohm fitting into the Phillies lineup?
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12:49 |
: For now, he’s likely picking up some Scott Kingery playing time
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12:49 |
: Now, Gosselin’s in there too
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12:50 |
: Given that Bohm hasn’t played above AA, I dont’ expect an instant surge of PA
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12:51 |
: but I think he’ll get spot starts, a little pinch-hitting
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12:51 |
: Do robot umps dream electric strikezones?
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12:51 |
: Robot umps dream about electric crappy calls
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12:52 |
: How worrying is Hiura’s inability to make contact (23% swstk) in the early going?
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12:52 |
: I think he’s been over-aggressive. He was always going to be aggressive but he’s still a bit raw and I think pitchers have been taking advantage of this
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12:54 |
: Hendricks did
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12:55 |
: (Sorry, trying to remember the games I’ve sene him)
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12:55 |
: There should never be a weekday without a day game in 2020. So many of us are homebound Rob!
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12:55 |
: When do we print Orioles playoff tickets for games we can’t attend?
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12:55 |
: “It would be like awarding Michelin stars based on which chefs cook the best omelet while sitting in a roller coaster car with a hotplate.”
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12:55 |
: I would watch that. Make it happen!
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12:55 |
: Soft ejection for Contreras last night. Are we tossing everyone who ever slams a bat now?
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12:56 |
: It was a little much
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12:56 |
: The first base ump should have been making that call, it was a bit bullshit
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12:56 |
: Is Vlad Jr just Yandy Diaz with a better pedigree right now?
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12:56 |
: ouch
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12:56 |
: there’s concern, but let’s not go nuts. Vladito is still very young
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12:57 |
: If the Cubs run away with the division will they have to return it and say sorry?
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12:57 |
: You played CrossCode yet, Dan? If not, why not? Do as I say!
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12:57 |
: I have not. I’m aware — and I may already own it — but my Steam queue is daunting
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12:57 |
: I’m an expansion team in a dynasty league. I traded Kyle Lewis (who’ll be ~28 by the time my farm system gets promoted) and Corbin Carroll for Nomar Mazara and Jarred Kelenic. Did I do OK?
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12:57 |
: Yes
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12:57 |
: C Biggio, L Urias, J Villar or T Edman. who should i ride with for a 12 team keeper?
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12:58 |
: Biggio probably the safest
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12:58 |
: I’m still a Urias stanner
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12:58 |
: What should the yankees do about Andujar? Was 2018 a mirage or is he that kind of player
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12:58 |
: It’s so hard because he doesn’t really have a position
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12:59 |
: It’s not like he had an amazing minor league history either
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12:59 |
: How much variance is going to be added to the current crop of minor leaguers projections considering we have a full season with no data?
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12:59 |
: I’m not going to “add” variance as I have no basis for missed season consequences ofr prospects. I just expect the projections to be worse than usual for a year or two
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12:59 |
: (and that’s for everybody really)
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1:00 |
: Who do you think the worst player in the MLB currently is and why is it Jake Lamb? I think because he went to uw
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1:01 |
: Chris Davis is so awful that if he had gone to Washington, they’d end their baseball program out of shame.
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1:01 |
: Who do you value more at the moment, Goldschmidt or Rizzo for points leagues? Given that the Cards have 55 games remaining, that certainly inflates his value
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1:01 |
: Rizzo. The Cards aren’t playing 55 games.
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1:01 |
: Luis Campusano the next Wilson Contreras? (Offensively speaking)
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1:01 |
: It’s a real possibility though a lot can go wrong for a catcher prospect
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1:02 |
: For teams that end up playing less than 60 games, do the players still get paid their 60-game salary, or will it get pro-rated?
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1:02 |
: Honestly? I don’t think MLB’s crossed that bridge.
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1:02 |
: And they probably don’t want to.
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1:02 |
: Like players on teams that dont’ reschedule rainouts still get full salary
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1:02 |
: But we never had to deal with a team suddenly playing 20 fewer games than everyone else.
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1:03 |
: I mean, they did in the 1800s
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1:03 |
: but usually, it’s because the team folded while the owner skipped town in a boxcar to escape his debtors.
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1:03 |
: On that note, it is time for me to depart for another week.
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1:03 |
: Thanks for joining me, everyone!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
So… how much is a .760 OPS guy who plays fringey CF defense worth? More than 3 WAR? Probably, right? From our busted top 100 prospect, I’ll take it.