Day 1 Draft Recap
Well, that was fun. Let’s do it again today, please. Wednesday night was full of some big surprises early and a few later on, all of which are covered below. I’ll start moving drafted players onto their new teams over on The Board once I wake up, so make sure to take a peek at the farm system rankings as they currently stand — they’re about to change as the new prospects get moved over. Briefly, before I dive in, here are the states from which the most players were drafted yesterday:
| Players Drafted | State |
|---|---|
| 4 | AZ, CA, NC, TX |
| 3 | TN |
| 2 | FL, GA |
**Editor’s Note: This piece initially incorrectly stated that the Baltimore Orioles had absorbed their four corners area. It has been corrected. FanGraphs regrets the error.**
The lone surprise there is Arizona, notable because a couple of teams (the Yankees) have either “absorbed” their four corners area recently or have considered it, meaning they let go of their area scout there and had other scouts fill in, thinking the area doesn’t have enough talent to justify having that extra scout. Four kids from the area went on Day 1, and with a lot of junior college spillover expected next year (there are lots of southwest JuCos), it seems especially foolish for other teams to really consider such cuts. Plus, there’s so much low-level pro ball here, baseball for which amateur scouts have a great context since the players are about the same age as their usual coverage. That makes turning over rocks on the complex backfields inexpensive since most of the four corners scouts live in Phoenix. Okay, I’m done. On to my team-by-team analysis.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18 | 23 | 45 | Bryce Jarvis | RHP | 22.4 | Duke | FB carry, plus change, command |
| 33 | 21 | 45 | Slade Cecconi | RHP | 21.0 | Miami | Frame, velo, slider |
As I mentioned in yesterday’s mock, Jarvis is very similar to the pitchers Arizona has acquired in recent drafts and trades. His fastball has impact vertical movement, he has a plus changeup, and his command will allow his breaking stuff to play above its raw stuff. He’s going to move fast. I had Cecconi ranked slightly ahead of Jarvis on The Board (same FV, though) based on his prototypical frame and superior arm strength and breaking ball. He’s raw from a control/command perspective, but Cecconi is only a draft-eligible sophomore and he missed time in high school due to injury, so I expect late growth.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25 | 62 | 40+ | Jared Shuster | LHP | 21.8 | Wake Forest | Deception, FB angle, breaking ball |
If the four-start clinic that Shuster put on in his four 2020 starts is what he will be going forward, then I’m too low on him. He struggled with walks as an underclassmen, then started to improve on the Cape, then retained the strikes amid a serious stuff spike this year. He was throwing harder, his breaking ball had more power, and the extra velo helped the changeup, which is his best secondary.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | 7 | 50 | Heston Kjerstad | RF | 21.3 | Arkansas | Power, plate coverage, SEC stats |
| 30 | 32 | 45 | Jordan Westburg | SS | 21.3 | Mississippi State | Contact, MIF fit |
We should all wait until the end of the draft before levying an opinion on Baltimore drafting Kjerstad at two, presumably to sign him to an under slot bonus so they can do more damage on Day 2. He’s the right player with whom to execute such a maneuver, in my opinion, just as Kyle Schwarber was the right guy to do it with in 2014. I had Kjerstad in the 50 FV tier (Tork is in a tier on his own as a 55 FV, then have Lacy, Hancock, Kjerstad etc. as 50s) and he was likely to be the last of the 50s drafted. Taking $5 million or so (I don’t know the exact number but that’s what other clubs have speculated to me) is about $2.8 million below the slot at two, but it’s more than Kjerstad would have gotten for slot from pick nine on, which is where he was likely to go. He rakes, he performed against SEC pitching, and he doesn’t have the injury risk the pitchers do. It makes sense.
My sources with other teams thought Baltimore was trying to float Nick Bitsko to their second pick, 30th overall, for something close to $3.5 million. The Rays were a speed bump. The Orioles took Jordan Westburg instead. He’s one of the many very stable, up-the-middle college hitters who performed at a big conference his entire career. Baltimore will probably flex what I think is an extra $2.5 million in pool space today.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17 | 78 | 35+ | Nick Yorke | SS | 18.2 | Archbishop Mitty HS (CA) | Contact, MIF fit |
On yesterday’s mock, I mentioned a rumor that Boston might cut under slot with a high schooler in the first round to scoop up a bunch of high schoolers with their later picks. I wasn’t sure if it was real because they don’t have a second rounder and a whole lot of players are going to come off the board before they pick again. I had Yorke ranked 165th on The Board. He’s a good player (35+ FV), a contact-oriented middle infielder from California with good infield hands and footwork, but limited physical projection. That’s what Indians shortstop Tyler Freeman was coming out of high school and I thought he was a reach. Now he’s a top 100 prospect. Hit tool high schoolers from Cali have been pretty popular high six-figure targets in recent years (Joe Naranjo, Cody and Tyler Freeman, maybe Thomas Saggese yet this year). Red Sox fans should be very intrigued by what might happen today. I’m not sure it’s going to work but it’s unlike anything we’ve ever seen in the draft before because there are so few rounds.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 16 | 11 | 45+ | Ed Howard | SS | 18.4 | Mount Carmel HS (IL) | Contact, SS lock, physical proj. |
I think Howard is a dude, evaluated with the same FV as the kind of players who sit at the top of most international signing classes. He has feel to hit, is going to stay at shortstop, and he’s going to get stronger as he matures and hit for power without needing a swing overhaul. The latter is almost certainly true based on what the Cubs strength program has been able to do for Brennen Davis, Benny Rodriguez, Cole Roederer, and a lot of the other teenagers in the system. Howard almost went at 10 and was in Philly’s mix at 15.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11 | 22 | 45 | Garrett Crochet | LHP | 21.0 | Tennessee | Velo, breaking ball |
There’s a non-zero chance Crochet can be stitched into the White Sox bullpen this year. He certainly has the stuff for it. He touched 99 in his lone 2020 start and has a 70-grade slider, a big hook rather than a small one (congrats to the five of you who get that joke). His delivery is kind of weird, but we all said that about Chris Sale, didn’t we?
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 | 13 | 45+ | Austin Hendrick | RF | 19.0 | West Allegheny HS (PA) | Huge power |
The Reds have had no qualms about taking older high schoolers (Tyler Callihan), even if they have swing and miss issues (Rece Hinds), so long as they have huge power. Hendrick does, perhaps the best power projection in the entire draft. His ability to rotate is like (gulp) Cody Bellinger’s, it’s just scary that Hendrick is both older and swung and missed a lot last summer against good high school pitching on the showcase circuit. Older + whiffs = bust risk, but Hendrick made adjustments to his swing throughout last summer so he should be able to get things dialed in, cut back on the strikeouts, and have a viable hit tool while getting to a ton of power.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23 | 54 | 40+ | Carson Tucker | SS | 18.4 | Mountain Pointe HS (AZ) | Athleticism, bat speed, MIF chance |
| 36 | 56 | 40+ | Tanner Burns | RHP | 21.4 | Auburn | Deep repertoire, SEC stats |
Tucker’s deal is supposedly close to $2 million, which is about $1 million under slot at 23. I’m not sure if Burns is slot or above. He’s a Boras advisee, and pre-draft buzz was that it’d take first round money to sign him ($2.4 million is slot at the end of round one, $2 million where Burns went). Tucker is an athleticism and abstract projection prospect. He’s a plus athlete who can really rotate, but his swing was a mess last summer and he struggled to throw the ball from short to first base accurately. This spring he came out with a better swing and was putting down 70 run times. If shortstop doesn’t work out, the wheels play in center field. Between Tucker, Brayan Rocchio, Junior Sanquintin, Gabriel Rodriguez, Tyler Freeman, Angel Martinez and Jose Tena, Cleveland might be in violation of antitrust laws for monopolizing young, tooled-up shortstops.
Burns I’m not on as much. I have a 40 FV on him. He’s maxed out and has had some injury issues, but most clubs had him higher than I do and think he could have four average or better pitches and above-average command, which would be a 45 FV.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 | 5 | 50 | Zac Veen | CF | 18.5 | Sprice Creek HS (FL) | Frame, power projection |
| 35 | 66 | 40+ | Drew Romo | C | 18.8 | The Woodlands HS (TX) | Glove, arm, switch-hitter |
Veen is the top high schooler in the class, an arousing combination of present power, present feel to hit, and perhaps the best frame in the entire draft, which means he might grow into astronomical pop. Romo, for a while now, has been rumored to be headed to school but I imagine he’s signable here. He’s the best defensive catcher among the high schoolers and has the best arm. He also has rare physicality for a catcher, a walking embodiment of the state of Texas. He also switch-hits and has power, but there are real concerns about his ability to make contact, and that is what was driving teams to think he’d head to school. High school catching is scary and busts a lot. Go back and read any M.J. Melendez reports from a few years ago and it’s almost exactly the same. Romo might be the riskiest pick from Day 1 but he has All-Star ceiling.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | 55 | Spencer Torkelson | 1B | 20.8 | Arizona State | Everything but defensive profile |
I don’t have much to say here. Tork was the top player on my board and I’m lucky to lay my head six miles from where his office has been the last couple of years.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 | 2 | 50 | Asa Lacy | LHP | 21.0 | Texas A&M | Elite heat and slider |
| 32 | 33 | 45 | Nick Loftin | SS | 21.7 | Baylor | Contact, MIF fit |
There are folks in baseball who think Lacy was the best player in the draft and some who were worried about his medical. I don’t know whether that had anything to do with why Miami passed on him at three but now the Royals have another really nasty young arm who is likely to move quickly, and their big league rotation might soon be packed with as many young, hyped prospects as those early 2000s Marlins and Cubs teams. (Royals fans old enough to drive probably remember Mike Montgomery, Aaron Crow, Luke Hochevar, John Lamb, etc. and know not to let their guard down, for such is pitching.)
It sounds like Loftin had an overslot deal somewhere in the comp round, something north of $3 million, but I’m not sure if it was here or elsewhere and the Royals just decided to take him. I’m lukewarm on Loftin. I think he can play short but I think his power is limited to his dead pull side only and that he can be pitched to.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | 10 | 45+ | Reid Detmers | LHP | 20.9 | Louisville | Deep repertoire, plus command |
Detmers is a perfect fit for the Angels and has a non-zero chance of pitching in the big leagues this year. His curveball is beautiful, a deadly rainbow that freezes lefty batters. Righties see it for a while because it’s so slow, but his command of a tailing (40 velo) heater, changeup, and cutter/slider should enable everything to work even if all the other stuff is average.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 29 | 27 | 45 | Bobby Miller | RHP | 21.2 | Louisville | Arm strength, slider, on-mound makeup |
This is just a good value pick for the Dodgers here. I’ve said it before in chats and whatnot: Miller is a great example of this draft’s depth because he is so much like 2019 Cubs first rounder Ryan Jensen (long arm action, upper-90s that he holds deep in games, goes right at hitters) except his secondary stuff is better.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3 | 8 | 45+ | Max Meyer | RHP | 21.2 | Minnesota | Elite heat and slider |
Meyer is going to move fast because his stuff is so good (control/command is not right now, though), he’s one of the best on-mound athletes in the class (a reason to believe the control will improve), and accelerating his timeline means it will line him up with the other good Marlins prospects who are already a few years in.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 | 14 | 45+ | Garrett Mitchell | CF | 21.8 | UCLA | Raw power, speed, PAC 12 stats |
Mitchell is similar to former Pirates first rounder Travis Swaggerty (who I have toward the middle of my top 100). He’s a thick dude with plus-plus straight line speed, he has considerable raw power, and his college swing does not enable him to get to it. Mitchell is explosive but kinda stiff, so not everyone thinks he’s capable of making adjustments to get to the power.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Team | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 27 | 37 | 45 | MIN | Aaron Sabato | 1B | 21.0 | North Carolina | Power, ACC state |
Pre-draft rumors had Sabato all over the middle of round one (Texas, Arizona, and I heard he was in San Francisco’s mix, too) but he falls to Minnesota, in a coup that feels similar to Trevor Larnach’s fall from a few years ago (I was higher on Larnach than Sabato, though).
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 | 25 | 45 | Pete Crow-Armstrong | CF | 18.2 | Harvard Westlake HS (CA) | Glove, speed |
PCA is the best defensive center fielder in the class, period. He also returned from the offseason having added a bunch of muscle, but the industry didn’t have enough time to see if it would manifest itself in games. His swing works a lot like Blake Rutherford’s, which is to say he’s capable of making sweet-looking oppo gap contact and golfing balls out to his pull side, but I’m not sure if he’ll be able to get to stuff at the top of the zone.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 28 | 40 | 40+ | Austin Wells | 1B | 20.9 | Arizona | Power, young for class, Cape stats |
Area scouts haven’t considered Wells a viable pro catcher since his senior year of high school, but some of that could be due to arm health issues that may be remedied with more time. He’s only a sophomore, after all, and athletic enough to roam the outfield and avoid first base. What the Yankees got here is a well-rounded lefty college bat with all-fields pop, who had one of the better 2019 Cape Cod statlines.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 | 20 | 45 | Tyler Soderstrom | C | 18.5 | Turlock HS (CA) | Stick, might catch |
Early intel on this one is that it’s over slot, so Oakland will have to cut today, maybe close to $700,000. They could do that with a $500,000 high schooler in round two, which is the player pool Boston seems to want to play in late. Soderstom is the anti-Drew Romo. He’s not a lock to catch, at least not every day; I love the idea of him receiving who he can then playing 3B/OF the rest of the time. Instead the carrying tool is the bat, among the most advanced in the high school class.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 | 9 | 45+ | Mick Abel | RHP | 18.8 | Jesuit HS (OR) | Velo, spin, frame |
A bunch of teams picking from seven through 17 are under new leadership, including Philly, which has been overwhelmingly college heavy since Matt Klentak took over. I think Abel is the best high school pitcher in the draft. At his best he was 93-96, up to 98, with a plus curveball and the occasional above-average changeup. His velo declined as last summer went on and I worried that he had thrown a lot, both that summer and the year before when he pitched until Labor Day weekend. The shutdown might have hurt his stock (he might have gone top 10 had he been seen this spring) but it also might have helped rest his arm.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 | 6 | 50 | Nick Gonzales | 2B | 21.0 | New Mexico State | Hit/power combo, MIF fit |
| 31 | 48 | 40+ | Carmen Mlodzinski | RHP | 21.3 | South Carolina | Cape performance, cutter |
Gonzales was good value where the Pirates got him. His New Mexico State stats are more Picasso than just a caricature, but he can hit and he does have relevant pop. Where he ends up on defense is TBD. He makes some great plays, but boots some easy ones. I had Mlodzinski ranked 15 spots below this based on looks from this spring, which were much worse than how he looked last summer on the Cape, where he was filthy.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | 15 | 45 | Robert Hassell | CF | 18.8 | Independence HS (TN) | Contact, makeup, CF shot |
| 34 | 36 | 45 | Justin Lange | RHP | 18.7 | Llano HS (TX) | Elite velocity, frame |
Hassell has the most polished hit tool of all the high schoolers in the class, well-timed, with laser-guided bat control. The industry is split about his ability to either stay in center, or grow into big power, or both. He’s an intense kid and works his ass off. Lange was 89-93 for me last summer, then got ripped during the offseason and came out throwing 96 and up this spring. He’s a plus athlete with an elite frame and elite arm strength; the Padres will have to develop the rest.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 | 12 | 45+ | Patrick Bailey | C | 21.0 | North Carolina State | Stays at catcher, switch-hit, ACC stats |
Some scouts think Bailey’s kind of a slow-twitch guy but I like him. He’s a polished switch-hitter who performed throughout his entire college career (.302/.411/.568) and plays a premium position. He’s a capable hitter from both sides of the plate, utilizing a gap approach from the right side and more of a pull/lift one from the left. He’s a fine receiver and blocker, catching on one knee until a runner reaches base. Most of Bailey’s good pop times rest around 1.95, which is about average. He has a very good chance to be an everyday catcher but likely lacks the offensive impact to be a star. Watch for the Giants to get creative on Day 2 since they have consecutive picks in the 60s.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Team | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 | 4 | 50 | SEA | Emerson Hancock | RHP | 21.0 | Georgia | Mid-90s, plus change, slider command |
I think the teams picking at the very top of the draft were in to see Hancock in week one (since he was among the consensus top prospects) and he just didn’t pitch well that day, then never had an opportunity to recover in those clubs’ eyes. His fastball doesn’t work like Logan Gilbert‘s nor George Kirby’s — Hancock is a little different from a pitch data perspective — but there are still ways to optimize his stuff and approach to pitching, such as having him throw his changeup more. I think Seattle will make those tweaks.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 | 41 | 40+ | Jordan Walker | 3B | 18.0 | Decatur HS (GA) | Age, power, frame |
At the end of last summer I had Walker in the 45+ FV tier with Hendrick and Howard. He came out this spring looking a little slower and like he might go the Sano route and be a defensive liability in short order. I slid him, perhaps overcorrecting. I still like Walker and even though you’d think a big guy with giant power would be more of a scout-y type, the model teams liked him due to his age and measurable thump.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24 | 16 | 45 | Nick Bitsko | RHP | 18.0 | Central Bucks East HS (PA) | Age, frame, velo, spin |
| 37 | 77 | 40 | Alika Williams | SS | 21.2 | Arizona State | Contact, MIF fit |
You can arguably add Bitsko’s name to the Rays/Cardinals winter swap centered around José Martínez, Randy Arozarena, and Matthew Liberatore since the Rays acquired the comp pick that turned into Alika Williams and also facilitated the pool space flexibility for them to scoop up Bitsko as Baltimore tried to float him to 30. Bitsko’s foundation is strong. He has mid-90s heat, it has backpin, he throws quality strikes with the fastball, he’s got a big strong frame, and he can spin a breaking ball. Williams is an acrobatic defensive shortstop with great feel for contact. He’s not very strong and his swing is weird, unique in such a way that it’s hard to describe. I don’t think he impacts the baseball with power enough to play every day but think he’s a high-probability utility man.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 | 26 | 45 | Justin Foscue | 2B | 21.3 | Mississippi State | Contact, MIF fit |
Foscue projects as a steady everyday second baseman based on his terrific plate coverage and feel for contact, while the rest of his tools are in the 40/50 area. Most interesting here is that Texas was on this type of player rather than the typical huge-framed athletes they’ve targeted seemingly forever.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 | 3 | 50 | Austin Martin | CF | 21.2 | Vanderbilt | Elite contact/approach, multi-positional |
There are fair criticisms of Martin. He has modest power and nobody can really be sure where he fits defensively because he struggled throwing to first early this year and we never got an extended look at him in center field. But he has arguably the best approach in the draft, high-end bat-to-ball skills, and his swing has lovely natural loft that, in concert with the approach, ensures he’ll hit for power even though he’s not sending anything to space. And I believe enough in him as an athlete to think he’ll find a way to play a valuable defensive position rather than left field or something.
| Pick | Rank | FV | Name | Position | Age | School | Strengths |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 | 17 | 45 | Cade Cavalli | RHP | 21.8 | Oklahoma | Frame, arm strength, slider |
I really liked this pick for Washington. Teams behind them were champing at the bit for Cavalli to fall. He was in the mix in the early teens all the way through St. Louis and somehow got here. I mentioned Cecconi was among the best-framed players in the class earlier; Cavalli is one of the others. He has mid-90s heat and a plus slider but his track record is a little shorter due to early-career time in the bullpen, and a mediocre strikeout rate last year.
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As an Orioles fan I feel completely demoralized. The team can’t realistically compete with New York or Boston financially, but it’s also losing the player development battle badly to Toronto and Tampa Bay. I don’t even see Kjerstad as a 50 given his questionable pitch recognition along with how his exaggerated load and leg kick affect his adjustment to off-speed pitches. The power is intoxicating but he has very limited defensive and base running value, so the hit tool has to justify taking him #2 overall and I don’t think it will. If they were going under slot, I would have preferred to take a chance on someone potentially great like Veen even if his risk is higher.
Then taking Westburg at #30 completely contradicted the point of going under slot, as he’s not someone who fell for signability reasons. He’s also oddly similar to the second pick by Elias in the 2019 MLB Draft as a shortstop who will almost certainly shift to third as he gets higher, while having some power in the bat but contact issues along with it. It appears that Elias gambled everything on Bitsko falling to #30 and that obviously didn’t happen. So in my opinion Toronto and Tampa Bay both picked better first rounders than Baltimore, which only expands the chasm between them in young talent.
Going underslot with Veen was never going to make sense because he had a home anywhere from 4 onwards and it wouldn’t have saved them enough pool to make it worth it. Clearly, the O’s are much higher on Kjerstad and maybe also lower on Martin. It’s easy to see Bitsko gone and write this off as a failure, but they could easily do what Boston is setting themselves up for and grab guys in rounds 2 – 5 that would be hard signs otherwise (if the $5MM number on Kjerstad is close to accurate and Westburg is slot to slightly below then they probably have at least $1.5MM more in slot than any other team in the draft/an average of something like a mid-40s slot per pick). The Orioles still need so much to even get close to sniffing relevancy and whatever you think of Martin vs. Kjerstand the difference between the two is not going to be the difference between success in failure. I applaud them for pulling out all the stops, they’re a team that needs to do it in my opinion. Now, this all depends on what they do today and I think we’ll find out very quickly @ 39. If they don’t allocate the pool then this is a horrible miscalculation at best and cheapness at worst and I’ll be out there lambasting them with the rest of the internet.
Kvn:
Veen wasn’t going to go as high as fourth if the Orioles passed on Martin, as we saw with his fall to ninth last night. We don’t know exactly what he would have asked for compared to Kjerstad, but it certainly would have been an under slot deal by more than a million, which would have given them some flexibility on later picks.
Because it is one.
That’s exactly why they needed to either take the best player available or if they were set on an under slot deal then go for the big upside play in Veen. Kjerstad doesn’t move the needle. He’s a corner bat with huge power but contact issues and below average athleticism who doesn’t walk enough. This draft put Baltimore even further behind Toronto and Tampa Bay in young talent.
I think you can argue all of that, I just think it’s a bit hyperbolic. Clearly they didn’t think Martin moved the needle either or they wouldn’t have gone underslot. You get a pool and you try to allocate it. If they think it makes more sense going 40% 1st pick/60% rest vs. the opposite then it’s simply a difference in preference assuming they get equivalent value. Like I said, if they don’t get that value then I’m right there with you. I just choose to trust them until proven otherwise.
You claimed that Veen wouldn’t sign significantly under slot, which is based on absolutely nothing and is almost certainly wrong. We also know that Westburg won’t require an over slot deal given that I haven’t seen anyone rank him as a top 30 prospect. And no one ranked Kjerstad higher than Martin. That means Elias intentionally took a worse prospect to save money that they didn’t use to get a better prospect at 30. So as of now the Orioles are worse off than if they had just taken the best prospects available.
You defended that with the completely illogical argument that the difference between Martin and Kjerstad wouldn’t be enough to make the Orioles into a winner, therefore it doesn’t matter that they intentionally drafted a worse prospect. Mike Trout wouldn’t make the Orioles into a winner by himself, but that doesn’t mean the team should pass on the better player. In fact, because it is a bad team in the toughest division Baltimore needs to take the best player whenever possible.
Jdbolick, your point appears to be that you came here to complain and you just want everyone to agree with you. Considering you’re arguing against taking Baltimore’s entire draft into consideration (that is, waiting to judge until you’ve seen the complete picture), your stance seems reactionary and shallow. You may want to calm down.
Josh:
I appreciate disagreement if it is intelligent disagreement that points out things I hadn’t considered or didn’t know, but Kvn’s arguments weren’t that at all. He made a baseless claim that Zac Veen would not have accepted a deal much under slot, for which he provided no evidence to back up that claim and it is almost certainly not true. Then he also made the completely illogical argument that because the Orioles are bad that it doesn’t matter if they take a worse prospect at #2.
I am taking the entire draft into consideration and always have. The Orioles took a worse prospect at #2 because Mike Elias assumed that Nick Bitsko would fall to #30. When Tampa Bay took him, it appeared that the Orioles had no backup plan given that they reached again at #30 and #39 rather than taking players who had fallen due to signability concerns.
That’s part of the problem. Literally everyone saw Martin as the clearly better player. Maybe Elias and company is smarter than everyone and knows better, but I think it’s far more likely he and his team just screwed up. (Depending on their next pick).
Kvn, ready to admit it now that I was correct all along? 2, 30, and 39 were all reaches. It looks like the objective wasn’t to save money at 2 to spend more at 30 & 39, it was to save money period, just like when the Orioles dumped Jonathan Villar for nothing because they didn’t want to pay his salary.
In my experience, plenty of dumbasses think they are the smartest guy in the room. That overconfidence plus some cheapness maybe gives you the O’s draft?
If they don’t go over slot at 39, I see no way to spin this as anything other than an incompetent attempt to get cute with slot caps or a shortsighted attempt to save a little money. Martin is clearly the better player.
Looks like overslot money was allocated for Mayo and Baumler. Based on how quickly they signed (Mayo done, Baumler announced), it would appear they had deals agreed to prior to selection.
Kjesrstad vs Veen and Kjerstad vs Martin is much closer than is getting played
Veen could just as easily be similar to Kjerstad now, a clear corner slugger with some swing and miss issues but big power. Difference is Kjerstad did it in the NCAA for 3* years including a great showing with Team USA last Summer.
Martin has questions about his power and position, and unlike other top college bats never hit well with wood bats. Kjerstad’s power simply outclasses him and for all the knocks about approach because of Ks, he logged a .400+ OBP in college in every showing
Kjerstad isn’t as exciting a draft prospect as either but his chances of becoming an impact bat aren’t really worse than either of those guys
With DL Hall and Grayson Rodriguez in their system, I’m not against skipping on Lacy. Hall is as close to Lacy as anyone in the minors, amazing stuff and dominant performances from the left side
Rutschman, Kjerstad, Hall, and Rodriguez is a quality group to build around, and Westburg as JJ Hardy potential
Eric is the only prospect analyst I’ve seen who even had Kjerstad on the same tier as Martin and Veen, as everyone else had him a tier below. And for good reason, because Kjerstad is a below average athlete with pitch recognition issues and a complicated swing that will always make it difficult for him to adjust to anything off-speed.
Veen is certainly riskier than Kjerstad, as any high school player would be, but his ceiling is dramatically higher than Kjerstad’s. He could end up becoming the best player out of this draft while there is no chance of that happening with Heston.
True, but that’s only because he was oddly proficient at getting hit by pitches. He had thirty three HBPs at Arkansas compared to 54 walks. We’ll see if that can induce them at a similar rate as a professional.
The thing you’re missing is that Kjerstad is only the bat. He’s a worse athlete than the other two and may or may not be able to remain an outfielder. So you’ve got a guy who is a decent RF in the best case scenario who doesn’t add value on the bases, has contact issues, and doesn’t walk that much. I agree that Martin has question marks surrounding his power and that he very likely cannot handle shortstop, but his hit tool is so good that he’s probably the safest pick in this draft. Veen is much riskier, but he is a better athlete than Kjerstad while having the potential to have as much power as Kjerstad with a better hit tool.
I would love for that to happen but I don’t think Westburg is ever going to be a regular starter in the major leagues. He doesn’t have the glove for short or the bat for third.
Veen’s floor is also dramatically lower, and they are not crazy far apart on the body either. Veen’s already a COF prospect, more Jayson Werth than Christian Yelich
Torkelson’s way safer than Martin
I’m not gung-ho about Westburg but am fan of big SSs who hit and hit in the CCBL
Veen’s floor is lower than Martin’s but not lower than Kjerstad’s. Kjerstad has a significant chance of being a 1B/DH type who doesn’t hit or walk enough to have positive value at all.
He’s a better prospect because of his power but not a safer one due to the lack of defensive and base running value.
Veen’s floor is not making the MLs at all. I don’t think it’s wild to take a hit on perceived upside for a little more real certainty so high
Worrying what defensive and baserunning value Martin and Torkelson provide is cart before the horse, particularly since no one seems to think Torkelson is standout bad at either of those things
Drafting Wilcox at #39 might help? But yeah, while the people in the O’s org change, the results seem to stay the same: consistently bucking conventional wisdom then not have the results work out.
I wonder if we’ll look back on this like when the O’s took Hobgood in 2009, and watched Zach Wheeler, Mike Minor and Mike Leake (all much more highly regarded at the time) get taken immediately after, and put together very good MLB careers, while Hobgood stalled out in A ball.
Tbf Westburg has a better shot at SS than you might think
Yeah, scouts are mixed on this. I like that pick, but they should have taken Martin or Lacy at two.
I predict Kelly being picked second today and making the whole thing worth it.
Indians must really like Burns and think they can work their magic on him. Otherwise, the pick of Tucker, way above where anyone had him ranked, makes no sense.
To be fair, Perfect Game had both Tucker and Burns in their top 30.
But as an Indians fan, this was a very underwhelming 1st round. From the deflating feeling of hearing the selection of Tucker, followed by Bitsko and Soderstrom going right after.
This draft class is the worst possible for under slot flim-flam, because of its quality depth and limited rounds. Go BPA early, then manage later instead of settling early and then chase whatever upside is left later.
Soderstrom/Kelley was both available and apparently signable, but they’re probably a few months too old and head scout R2-D2 didn’t like that. Now watch him draft a couple of B. Jordan, C. Montgomery, Calabrese, Tiedemann today. Analysis!
Burns is really good. Fits that Indians mold of rounding out guys who show SP tools and skills but are a little off the ideal somehow
Isn’t Cleveland ‘s recent MO to take control specialists and squreze extra speed out of them? Burns sounds like a fit to that approach.
Whoo boy that was interesting.
Things I loved, roughly in order:
-The Blue Jays taking my favorite guy in the draft at #5. Seriously, how much luckier can you get? Here I was thinking the Blue Jays were salivating over the chance to get Lacy, and they got Martin instead. It’s a gimme but I love it anyway.
-The Cubs taking Howard. Likely plus fielder at short, nice upside with the bat.
-The Pirates lucking into both Gonzales and Mlodzinski, One thing I think we’ve learned about the Pirates is that they place stock in performance on the Cape. High floor, high upside. It’s a very good couple of choices.
-Rays and A’s take a huge swing on the risky high schoolers that will command big bonuses but who have superstar potential. It’s not that often that you get guys with that kind of ability that low in the draft. I think it’s worth it to draft some easier-to-sign guys later.
-The Brewers scooping up Mitchell. I find him fascinating. He’s probably a major leaguer, maybe even a starter, if he keeps the slashing doubles approach. If you tweak his swing you might get a monster power guy in center field but also it doesn’t seem like his bat control is that good, so you might ruin him instead. At #20 that’s a really good deal.
-The Rockies and Veen, the Mets on PCA, the Phillies on Abel. Great value.
As a White Sox fan, whenever I see them pick up some toolsy, athletic position player who can’t hit or hard thrower who can’t find the strike zone, I have nightmares that Kenny Williams is back in charge. So the 30/40 command grade on Crochet worries me a little.
They kind of got stuck in a tough spot because there were 8 guys who were (more or less) the consensus best picks and the last one went at #9. He’s got a better than 50/50 chance of winding up as a reliever, and not sure he’s going to move fast because of those issues. I understand vaguely why they didn’t want to go for Abel or Howard because their window is right now, but the value at that point in the draft was for high schoolers. The upside is enormous but I think Cavalli or Jarvis would have been a better pick for them (although maybe they were scared off by the Cavalli’s medical report).
I was kinda hoping for Bailey or Howard, both of whom were available. I especially like Howard and I’m still not really sold on Anderson, despite last year which was BABIP fueled. He’s fine, but could be a lot better defensively and he’s only “fine.”
At some point Anderson’s going to lose a step and his career is going to be over. Maybe not in the next 4-5 years though, and it’ll probably take Howard that long anyway. Bailey makes sense simply because he could maybe move quickly, but I am not really sold on him as a player.
I remember when there were mock drafts saying Kjerstad could make it down there and thinking that the White Sox would probably dance themselves silly if he dropped that far. It never happened, and there was a real dearth of college guys who could move quickly in that area who also gave them solid value at pick #10.
Normally I’d agree, but if Crochet was able to pitch a full season with his improved stuff that he showed in the fall and his only spring start, I don’t think there’s any way he would’ve made it to 11. There’s obviously a chance it would’ve fallen off throughout the season, but we just don’t know. If the improvements are real, he could easily end up being a steal. At worst, you’re talking about someone with elite arm talent from the left side.
I also have to imagine he’s not getting full slot, as I don’t recall ever seeing him mocked top 20 outside of being mocked to the Sox in the days leading up to the draft. I would be absolutely thrilled if they could find a way to add Kelley as well.
Dad joke:
Time to change your screen name to “Absolutely Thrilled.”
Hot takes:
– Torkelson is basically Godzilla bringing order to a farm system that has some top shelf talent. Paredes is basically Anguirus, trusty ally and sidekick. Mize/Manning/Skubal are three dorats capable of becoming King Ghidorah. Greene is King Caesar, Boyd is Megalon
– Good job by the Rockies, Reds, Phillies, Cubs, Mets, and Cardinals…Not really a Hassell believer yet but I convert quickly
– Mitchell might be the beginning of the end for the Brewers or some relief for Cain and Braun. That GM is really good
– The Rays getting their balls washed over prospects will happen, hurry up and make a buying trade (coughWillsonContreras) how many SSs do you need
– Alot of great org fits in this draft…Howard and Cubs, Bitsko and Rays, Mets and PCA, Veen to the Rockies, Martin to the Jays, Soderstrom to the A’s, Wells and Yankees
– Kjerstad is basically the Kyle Schwarber to Rutschman’s Bryant, nothing crazy wrong with that pick even if he’s nowhere near my ideal pick or prospect either…My final mock had him picked at 2 but also I never finished it so :shrugs:
– Lacy and Singer are going to be a badass duo, Bubic and Kowar not relenting much either…At least they have Witt among bats, Loftin doesn’t seem like a bad 2B prospect
– I should not have come down on Bailey
More necessary hot takes
– Was really happy about the White Sox and Dodgers picks. Crochet and Miller as draft day prospects aren’t so good, loud tools tho
– It’s only hit me in the past couple days how good this HS class is and how fat the shadow reptiles that run the NCAA and pro sports will get off moar yoot. It’s just funny how the draft can put MLB’s two obsessions at odds: money and youth. Those darned HS players cost more because the NCAA has yet to get meat years for nothing destroying their leveragez, but their youth!
– Secretly I think the Blue Jays are pissed Lacy was off the board. Lacy would have done for their pitching talent what Torkelson does for the Tigers’ hoard. Martin is good but Lacy was the best pitcher in this draft college or HS
– The Pirates quietly have the potential for a Bell – Gonzales – Tucker – Hayes with depth and some OF talent (Reynolds, probably Cruz)…The NL Central is just full of quality FOs
– Rockies pairing Romo with Veen is all about them knowing they couldn’t pass on Veen but also really need a catcher. Romo is the HS version of Bailey, well known and productive but not exciting enough to market to the folks at home as a top guy. It’s kinda like how Yasmani Grandal isnt marketed as a top player often throughout his career but everyone knows he is insanely good
– The Mets! Crow-Armstrong adds to a system with some of the most interesting 20 and under prospects out there (Mauricio, Alvarez, Vientos, Allen)
I think that both the Blue Jays and Royals are dancing over getting their picks, but: I really think the Royals would have done better with Martin because he’s a better player, and he’s a cleaner organizational fit because the Royals’ home park is exceptionally forgiving to pitchers. But the Royals historically have placed a very high emphasis on defense, and are probably worried that Martin wouldn’t have stuck at 2B and isn’t fast enough for CF. I see why they did it, and Lacy is a big enough get at #4 that it doesn’t bother me, but I’m not a massive fan of it either. I’m pretty neutral on it. If they thought Lacy was the better player, fine.
Meanwhile, Lacy is a cleaner organizational fit for the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays have a type–big power pitchers–and Lacy fits what they like to do very well. I don’t think Martin makes a ton of sense as a CF and they already have a couple of middle infielders who might fit best at 2B (Bichette, Biggio). I think that Martin has a chance to be so good that he’ll force a move and there might be a domino effect with Vlad Jr. going to first. Overall, you worry about these things later, and is so much better on talent than anyone else available at that point that this rates as a huge win for them–but I also think they might have actually been happier with Lacy.
Overall, it’s a win for both of them since neither of them were expected to fall to #4, and you select on talent not on need, etc but I do think that it would have made more sense if they were flipped.
Royals have Erick Pena (CF) in the system and scouts seem to be pretty high on him. Eric went so far to say he could potentially be a top 50 prospect going forward and he hasnt turned 18 yet. MLB.com has him at 50 FV currently.
I personally love that they got lacy and would have been disappointed had they passed on him for Martin.
I don’t really believe in the idea that you should be worried about the depth already in your system, except maybe for the vague idea that you need more pitchers or hitters. There are very few players who are so limited they can only play one position, excepting 1B and C, and so many prospects are likely to bust. And Martin is probably a better fit at 2B anyway.
Neither do I but you were the one who was talking about who is a better “system fit”.
Which, to be honest, I’m not sure what that means. As if a high end LHP doesnt fit every system.
shrugs
Yeah, I just think Lacy is a better and higher ceiling prospect than Martin. I had Martin ranked as like my 7 best player up until I chickened out and put him 2nd yesterday, Lacy was #2
Not that Martin is a bad prospect, just think there’s enough to let some players by him between the defense, power, and lack of wood bat/summer league play and success
Martin generates a ton of natural loft with plus bat speed and elite pitch selection. College vs. prep and RHH vs. LHH, but I can see the same bat control and above avg power potential I saw in C.J. Abrams and Gavin Lux (who also had bad throwing reports and positional questions that no one cares about anymore).
I think he stays in the dirt and the arm determines whether it’s at 2B or 3B.
I think that’s unfair to say, arm will put him at 2B probably…Would easily take draft day Abrams over Martin not that that says a ton
*fair not unfair
I’d take Abrams too, but I haven’t been objective about him since his sophomore year, and would take him over almost anyone. If Martin burns up High-A for a month next year followed by a strong Double-A showing, he’ll effectively replicate what Abrams did in his epic debut.
Martin’s arm is an unknown. If he rebounds to 2019 he has a shot at 3B as he comes in on grounders well and can throw from multiple angles. He was a clothesline factory over there. If he’s lost a tick then 2B or CF are options and he’ll have a phenomenal bat for either.
Are you really calling the same FO that made the Cole and Archer trades “quality”?
Things I would seriously, seriously question, roughly in order from most to least:
-Hendrick. I hate his profile, for all the reasons mentioned here. I don’t think I’ve seen as risky a pick since Austin Beck. All the other ones I have are questions, but this one I straight up don’t like.
-Yorke. Strong commitment, questionable upside. If this were a dramatic underslot deal I would like it more, but the strong commitment worries me on that front and the lack of the 2nd round pick has me questioning that just like Eric. Maybe this helps them scoop up guys later, but I question this.
-Bailey at #13. I have also seen the slow-twitch guy thing for Bailey, but the other thing is that it seems like a lot of people have some questions about his defense. He’s a lock to stay at catcher, but not projected to be plus, which worries me a lot. I feel like he’s the kind of guy who optimists think can both hit and turn into a plus defender, but that the chances of one of those things not developing are surprisingly high and that makes him a reserve.
-The Marlins taking yet another shot on a slightly underiszed pitcher with injury questions and electric stuff. It’s like Jeter is scarred by facing off against Pedro and doesn’t realize that there is only one Pedro. I think there are too many questions about Meyer to take him over Martin and Lacy (and Hancock!).
-Crochet at #11. I know the stuff is great but I haven’t seen anyone project on the command heavily.
-I don’t have a problem with the Orioles taking Kjerstad at #2 to get someone nice later, but I think Westburg has a high chance to bust. Maybe I’ll feel better about this if Westburg also helps them scoop up guys later, but I don’t really like him.
I don’t think I have opinions on the rest.
You said in chat last night that you had graded Tork’s arm pretty poorly in HS. I’m guessing there’s been little opportunity to evaluate it since then?
And now, some signability questions for some of the top remaining prospects (and I don’t know much about this, but I’m curious about them)
-Wilcox and Ginn are both relatively young for college players. They could easily go back if a team doesn’t meet their price.
-Kelley and Witt are committed to Texas. It sounds like Witt would have been a tough sign anyway, and after he slid past Cleveland and Baltimore in the comp round I wonder if anyone is going to try to sign him over slot. I haven’t heard much about Kelley.
-Montgomery is committed to Florida State. I am surprised he didn’t go in the comp round. Masyn Winn is committed to Arkansas.
I’m sure there are others but those are the ones I’d be most worried about signing just based on age and commitments, but I don’t have any knowledge of them except for Witt.
Really interesting first day of the draft, bringing some much needed excitement back to baseball after al the public battling between the league and players.
I love Martin to the Jays, Lacy to the Royals, Detmers to the Angels, Howard to the Cubs, Sobato to the Twins and Bitsko to the Rays. Those were probably my favorite picks of the night.
I don’t hate Kjerstad to the O’s at number two as much as most. They were probably trying to get Bitsko at 30, but it’s not like the difference between Martin/Lacy and Kjerstad is super big, and I love Kjerstad’s offensive profile.
A super minor nitpick that I wouldn’t have noticed if I wasn’t bother a) a Red Sox fan and b) from San Jose but you seem to imply that like that group listed, Yorke is a SoCal high school hitter when he is not from SoCal.
Noticed that as well, made me do a quick Google search while pooping to double confirm.
Yeah, it wasn’t meant to imply *he* is from SoCal, but was clumsily worded. Updated now for clarity. Thanks for reading!
I’m not sure how you are judging what state guys are from, but based on their schools MS, KY, and PA all also had two players drafted.
I appreciate you, Eric.
Can someone explain the relationship here (in the writeup of Meyer)?
“one of the best on-mound athletes in the class (a reason to believe the control will improve)”
Intuitively, I can understand that there may be a connection between displayed athleticism and the ability to pitch with control but I don’t quite get how it would work.
Eric, and likely many others, are strong believers that the more athleticism you have, the easier it is to repeat your delivery. So he (and others) were on Justus Sheffield for years because he was such a good athlete, so they figured his command problems could have been just a case of not having enough reps. Presumably, he thinks the same thing about Meyer.
Is that reasonable? I don’t know. In 2018, he tagged Cole Wilcox, Matthew Liberatore, Ryan Weathers, Mason Denaburg, Carter Stewart, Logan Gilbert, Mike Vasil, Jackson Kowar, Adam Kloffenstein, and Kumar Rocker as pitchers with plus athleticism and an FV45 or higher (he also tagged Hankins later). And Lenny Torres Jr was given plus-plus athleticism.
I haven’t been following Stewart, Rocker, or Vasil lately, and Denaburg and Torres haven’t really pitched. but now Wilcox is considered unathletic and his command is still weak, Liberatore’s command is still weak, the jury is out of Kloffenstein, and Kowar, Weathers, and Gilbert seem to have good command. Whether that was because they always had it before, I don’t know, and I don’t know how this compares to other, similarly rated prospects without the athleticism designation.
Too much sewing humor in this article.
The Os really need to do damage on day 2. Kjerstadt is good but with his questionable K:bb rate he is probably not the second best player (looks like a low obp slugger) and westburg is ok for his spot but not a plus (similar position on the board as his draft position so about neutral value if you do a plus/minus.
The Os still have money left though, so maybe this is a quantity over quality thing were they want to get 3-4 legitimate big league prospects because their system is so bad and needs quantity.
Also interesting they get two college guys. Could that mean Elias has gotten pressure from the owner that the rebuild better moves quickly?
If the Os get another 45 and a 40+ it would be a decent draft though that could but their farm system closer to the top10 were it needs to be.
Update: still don’t understand Os. Third guy is another college guy drafted higher than his position on the board. So not a single “plus” guy drafted lower than his position on the board. I thought they would have went a higher upside guy like kelly in the third but they didn’t.
I still would give elias and sig the benefit of doubt but could only see that their models are quite different from the industry.
Interestingly despite being college guys neither really seems to be a classic “moneyball” pick, neither of the 3 has walked a lot and 2 also struck out quite a bit.
Maybe elias has seen great trackman stuff and thinks he can teach them the plate skill stuff, maybe a bit like george Springer who came in at horrific plate discipline and improved.
The only consistent thing about the moves under Elias is that they’ve all been geared to save money. That seems like something he would have been told to do rather than something he wanted to do on his own. *shrug*
Yeah, I think the O’s likely blew this draft. The pick on Kjerstad only makes sense if you can sign other guys over slot and get a deeper class. But I really don’t like Westburg, and Servideo and Haskins seem like they’d be available at slot. It seems like their whole game plan was to get to Bitsko and they didn’t have a single decent backup. I would have thought maybe Tanner Witt (or maybe Carson Montgomery if you’re high on him–it looks like Eric is the high guy there) but it looks like they’re going to school.
Well, as you know, it’s not a very profitable business. /s
“The lone surprise there is Arizona, notable because a couple of teams (including the Yankees and Orioles) have “absorbed” their four corners area recently, meaning they let go of their area scout there and had other scouts fill in, thinking the area doesn’t have enough talent to justify having that extra scout.”
Weird. That isn’t close enough to do weekends in Denver or western Texas?
I’m sorry if I sound like a broken record, but, as an O’s fan, I don’t understand using the 2nd overall pick on a guy who struck out ~2.5 times as much as he walked in college, even if Kjerstad does sign for ~$3 million under slot. And then to double down on contact/plate discipline problems by taking Westburg, who struck out ~twice as much as he walked in college, was really disheartening. Please explain to me what I am missing.
Nothing to say on the analysis – thoroughly appreciate it. Just wanted to say specifically how much I appreciate the way this article is formatted. Extremely aesthetically pleasing and clear to both scan and read word for word.