FanGraphs Red Sox/Astros ALCS Game 3 Chat
| 8:01 | : Good evening!
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| 8:01 | : For a day of events of a baseball nature.
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| 8:01 | : Well an evening
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| 8:03 | : How can hundreds of Fenway seats be unsold?
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| 8:03 | : Dunno, price?
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| 8:03 | : How many are unsold?
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| 8:03 | : Any thoughts on Siri?
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| 8:03 | : Weirdly interesting now.
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| 8:04 | : He’s one player whose ZiPS I’m really fascinated into digging into; I don’t have final minor league translations fully done yet
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| 8:04 | : Who’s going to score the most runs?
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| 8:04 | : The winner, silly!
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| 8:04 | : Only the somewhat cold temperatures tonight have me thinking this won’t be a 12-9 type of slugfest.
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| 8:04 | : Baseball is happy to overthrow any logic and reasoning at the drop of a cap!
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| 8:04 | : Over/under 4 hours for this game?
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| 8:05 | : I’ll say over.
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| 8:05 | : hey hey, folks!
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| 8:05 | : Hey Jay!
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| 8:05 | : Is there a useful rule of thumb e.g. for every 5 degrees of temperature, runs per game go down by X?
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| 8:05 | : i’d like to believe that just once the Red Sox can play a game at Fenway that doesn’t last 4 hours.
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| 8:05 | : Not really
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| 8:06 | : I mean, there’s a relationship
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| 8:06 | : But the numbers aren’t that neat and the variance is crazy
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| 8:07 | : lower temperatures mean less carry for the ball, which can cut into homers of course
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| 8:07 | : Using same teams, it’s like 0.5 r/g/team between the coldest and the hottest games
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| 8:08 | : Will Urquidy get more that 12 outs, please say yes.
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| 8:08 | : I’ll say over.
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| 8:09 | : Only because if he’s pitching well, I think the Astros might push him a few more batters than they would otherwise
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| 8:09 | : Loved the article today, Jay, about declining IP. Is the data easily accessible from somewhere? What I’m curious about is the shape of those average IP values by year, so I was thinking about whipping up some histograms.
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| 8:10 | : Thanks. Sadly, it’s a grind to compile the data; I use Stathead and then piece it together. This time I’m actually going to save my spreadsheet with an easily recognizable title so when I revisit this stuff next year i don’t have to reinvent the wheel, though.
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| 8:10 | : But yes, histograms would be interesting, I think.
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| 8:11 | : How does ZiPS incorporate postseason stats? Like for instance what is the degree of impact Logan Webb’s two postseason starts will have? Like two additional regular season starts or due to it being the postseason would it be more heavily weighted due to importance of the game and quality of opponent?
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| 8:11 | : I haven’t found weighting them differently to be needed. More important in this context is more philosophical than predictive
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| 8:11 | : I cram it down to a per 162 game context
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| 8:11 | : Best singular jersey left in the playoffs? I’ll go Dodgers home
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| 8:12 | : 80s astros!
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| 8:12 | : it ain’t these red Red Sox jerseys
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| 8:12 | : I actually don’t mind these
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| 8:12 | : I’m all for the Dodgers’ home jersey as the single best in the sport
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| 8:12 | : Though Red Sox classic is better
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| 8:12 | : the Red Sox regular home jersey is much nicer
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| 8:13 | : But I like having lots of alternates and I wish more teams would do interesting alternates
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| 8:13 | : The A’s shouldn’t get to participate in revenue sharing if they don’t play at least 10 home games a year in the gold.
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| 8:13 | : +1 for Red Sox regular home jerseys over tonight’s.
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| 8:13 | : I like the colorful home jerseys – Astros orange tops are also very nice.
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| 8:14 | : Yeah, regular is better. But I don’t hate these
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| 8:14 | : Astros old red tops were bad though
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| 8:14 | : Yikes I had forgotten those
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| 8:16 | : I like the Diamondbacks rust ones, but they just don’t work for the Astros
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| 8:16 | : *chef’s kiss*
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| 8:16 | : I don’t miss the red jerseys but I miss the CF hill
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| 8:16 | : It was a real logistics nightmare
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| 8:17 | : everyone on the field pretty much hated it
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| 8:17 | : It would have been fun if the Astros wore 2005 throwbacks against the White Sox
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| 8:17 | : ESPECIALLY if…
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| 8:17 | : throwbacks for a rematch series should have been mandatory
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| 8:17 | : Solid stab by Devers there
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| 8:17 | : but then who knows how apeshit Chris Sale would have gone with scissors
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| 8:18 | : yeah, nice play by Devers, whose fielding numbers were… not good
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| 8:18 | : -13 DRS, -5.5 UZR, -13 OAA. YIKES
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| 8:18 | : How unusual is E Rod pitching off the right side of the rubber as a lefty?
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| 8:18 | : It’s certainly not the norm
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| 8:18 | : the orthodox one is to try to dominate the platoon matchups with the placement
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| 8:19 | : Jay, you tweeted, so now i’m here.
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| 8:19 | : welcome to the party!
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| 8:19 | : It’s impossible to find an officially licensed JR Richard jersey which has always bothered me
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| 8:19 | : I believe retailers can only sell officially licensed mersh with the names of current players
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| 8:20 | : had the same problem coming up with a Fernando Valenzuela jersey but I found a dodgy enough place to do it
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| 8:20 | : mind you this was about 18 years ago
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| 8:20 | : I wonder if in Rodriguez’s case, he picked up the habit as a kid? He used to be right-handed growing up
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| 8:20 | : If BOS wins the WS this year, are they the luckiest American sports team of the millennium?
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| 8:21 | : The luckiest team is whoever faces the Twins
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| 8:21 | : Jay: your Pilots jersey is gorgeous.
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| 8:21 | : thank you!
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| 8:22 | : I’ve only got that, the Fernando, and an El Paso Chihuahuas one from the time I got to throw out a first pitch in connection with The Cooperstown Casebook (I’ve had a recurring spot on ESPN El Paso for over a decade now). Oh and a David Cone navy batting practice Yankees jersey .That’s my entire collection, and none of it gets worn very often.
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| 8:21 | : That Devers play was a reminder that even mediocre major league defenders are incredible.
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| 8:21 | : That’s part of the reason fans tend to overrate their home team defensively
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| 8:21 | : Crappy defensive players still make some awesome plays from time to time
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| 8:22 | : Especially when you have no frame of reference.
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| 8:22 | : You can’t really put overlay Brendan Ryan’s range above Jeter’s when Jeter made a play that was hard for him
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| 8:22 | : I mean, while you’re watching
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| 8:22 | : I didn’t know E Rod used to throw righty! Switching throwing hands has gotta be rare, even at a young age.
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| 8:22 | : I think he broke his arm or something. Lemme google it
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| 8:23 | : Billy Wagner is one who changed because of a broken arm
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| 8:23 | : Here’s Kiké, who’s hotter than hell these days. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/no-stranger-to-october-heroics-kike-hernan…
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| 8:23 | : “The Boston Red Sox pitcher wasn’t always a left-handed pitcher. He was forced to change throwing arms after breaking his right arm and was in a cast for a year-and-a-half.”
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| 8:23 | : Geez, a year-and-a-half is a BROKEN arm.
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| 8:24 | : broken-ass arm
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| 8:24 | : Billy Wags had his broken twice in a row as a kid, so kind of similar in that regard
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| 8:24 | : I switch-hit as a kid because I sucked about equally from both sides
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| 8:24 | : that’s one approach. or two.
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| 8:24 | : Over/under 9 combined innings by the two starters tonight?
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| 8:25 | : under
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| 8:25 | : I’m going to say over since Jay said under
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| 8:25 | : The average so far this postseason is 4.07 innings per start, as I wrote in today’s piece https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-incredible-shrinking-postseason-starte…
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| 8:26 | : 
 Over/Under: SP 9 IP Combined Over (20.0% | 12 votes) Under (58.3% | 35 votes) Sideways (5.0% | 3 votes) Topwise (1.6% | 1 vote) Under 9 OUTS Boyo (3.3% | 2 votes) My shoes hurt! (11.6% | 7 votes) Total Votes: 60 | 
| 8:26 | : Do we have any semblance of an iota of an idea how hot streaks like kiké’s happen?
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| 8:27 | : He’s made some mechanical changes — moving closer to the plate is the big one — and I don’t think opposing teams have taken them seriously or keyed upon him. You’d think they’d adjust their approaches.
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| 8:26 | : You need Kevin for the sensical polls.
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| 8:26 | : Wait, what? How can a broken arm put you in a cast for 18 MONTHS? My god, that must’ve been awful.
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| 8:27 | : I would’ve thought that by a year or so, your arm was going to do as much healing as was ever going to happen
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| 8:27 | : Probably had something to do with the growth plates
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| 8:28 | : Like the time I slice my right foot with a piece of glass from my fourth toe to the side and down the heel. I got feeling slowly back for fourth toe and *most* of pinky toe for a year but then it kinda stopped after that
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| 8:29 | : Well, that was efficient
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| 8:30 | : There aren’t many switch hitters that don’t have a dominant side, so you’re in rare company Dan.
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| 8:30 | : Fun fact: Before Kiké became a fan favorite in LA/BOS, he was one of the few bright spots on the 2014 Astros.
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| 8:31 | : and yet they traded him to the Marlins on July 31. He played just 24 games for Houston, all of them in July!
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| 8:30 | : You have to be competent at two things to be obviously better at something than the other!
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| 8:30 | : Did you start pitching with your big toe?
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| 8:30 | : I was like 37!
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| 8:31 | : Boy my sister was pissed I didn’t get stitches and just tied the whole foot tight with a sock tourniquet
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| 8:31 | : Not to come right out of the chute as a negative nelly, but is anyone else as annoyed as I how they are trying to rename moonshots as “moon blasts” so Baseball can maximize their crypto revenue?
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| 8:32 | : yeah I’m never going to put those two words together. And I’m with P.F. Tompkins on this one. 
 When I find out who is doing the voice for the crypto moon man I will ruin his life | 
| 8:31 | : I throw left handed but bat right handed because my childhood cricket coach refused to believe left handedness was a real thing
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| 8:31 | : Here in Canada we just got a Blue Jays commercial, which feels like it would just make Jays fans sad by reminding them that they didn’t quite make the playoffs and the Red Sox did.
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| 8:32 | : What happens in this game may change it, but do you have a feel for how Houston sets up the pitching tomorrow? Greinke has been pretty cooked second half, but he did deliver one of the guttiest performances of the post-season last year.
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| 8:32 | : I’m not sure Houston truly knows what they’re doing yet
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| 8:33 | : Beautiful inning for Rodriguez
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| 8:34 | : With all these takes, seems like HOU wants us to have to use Pivetta.E Rod really attacking the strike zone to counter it , first time through.
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| 8:34 | : McDonald’s Mac Tonight is the only promotional Moon Man I recognize
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| 8:35 | : Moon Man
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| 8:35 | : Have yourself an inning, Eduardo Rodriguez!
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| 8:36 | : Man, where’s the “like” on this thing? Right on, Bobby Grinch!
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| 8:36 | : Kyle Tucker or Austin Riley for the next five seasons?
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| 8:36 | : Tucker by a hair for me
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| 8:37 | : I like Tucker there too
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| 8:37 | : Washington State just fired their head football coach because he refused to meet their vaccination deadline. Would this ever happen in MLB?
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| 8:37 | : I mean, it’s *possible* but MLB is more central
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| 8:37 | : I feel shame and frustration just imagining throwing with my left arm.  Just another reminder that these guys may not be human.
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| 8:37 | : When I was dealing with my umpteenth bout of right shoulder problems in 2019 — this goes all the way back to the SLAP labrum tear I suffered in 2003 — I spent a few days believing that I was going to need rotator cuff surgery. I was traveling at the time, and spent a few days  at my parents’ place throwing snowballs left-handed, imagining that If I ever wanted to play catch with my daughter that was my future. 
 Thankfully it was just impingement. Cortisone, lidocaine, and a good physical therapist have kept me a righty. | 
| 8:38 | : I love Robothal, but he’s jumping to conclusions here
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| 8:38 | : Chances E-Rod re-signs with the Red Sox next year?
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| 8:38 | : I think pretty good
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| 8:39 | : I’m a righthander who actually tore his left SLAP labrum reaching up to catch a high throw at a big league team’s fantasy camp in 2007. The first of too many orthopedic surgeries all over my body …
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| 8:40 | : oh man, that sucks. Don’t ask me how I tore mine.
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| 8:40 | : Do you think more teams will start to take the approach the Giants took this year and sign a lot of players to one-year deals?
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| 8:40 | : Not because of Giants
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| 8:40 | : I think the MLB CBA mess may lead to more than usual one-year deals
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| 8:41 | : I think the thing teams will be emulating about the Giants is their larger coaching staff.
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| 8:41 | : I tore my wrist tripping on a cat in the dark, catching my left wrist in the stairs railing, and twisting as I fell
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| 8:41 | : jesus, Dan.
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| 8:41 | : This was in 2007
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| 8:41 | : dammit Galileo!
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| 8:42 | : He was under my feet because we had just had some Arby’s together and he assumed I was holding out on more
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| 8:43 | : You got it, Jay. You don’t wanna tell me, then I don’t wanna know.
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| 8:44 | : When I told Keith Law, then of the Blue Jays front office, he said, “For the love of God, make something up that’s better than that.”
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| 8:43 | : Wow, JD smoked that one. How hard off the bat?
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| 8:43 | : They’ll tell you in a sec!
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| 8:44 | : Beautiful piece of htiting
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| 8:44 | : Good hold there
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| 8:44 | : Carlos Febles, we have found him!
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| 8:44 | : Have you ever heard a good explanation for broadcasts showing 7 games of postseason stats instead of 150 games of regular season stats?
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| 8:44 | : Never one I thought wasn’t dumb
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| 8:45 | : If the player’s had an itneresting postseason, you can still supplement it
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| 8:45 | : “OK, this dude is 2 for 8 this postseason” is just trivia
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| 8:45 | : Got to send him.  What is the worst that can happen?
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| 8:45 | : RIP Wendell Kim
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| 8:47 | : i coached third in my daughter’s tee-ball game on Saturday. My shoulder made walnut-cracking sounds when I windmilled.
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| 8:46 | : Showing batting average is also questionable
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| 8:46 | : Against Kris Bryant that counts as a strike
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| 8:47 | : I take back what I said 5 minutes ago about Urquidy looking sharp.
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| 8:47 | : Wavin’ Wendell died? Awwww, man …
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| 8:47 | : A whiel back.
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| 8:47 | : It was quite sad. He had that really early Alzheimer’s that you can get in your 50s or early 60s
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| 8:48 | : Wait Kike Hernandez didn’t hit .500 this season??? Has been great but broadcast has forgotten he had a .786 OPS in the regular season
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| 8:48 | : Did Zips buy into Vasquez’ breakout in 2019?
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| 8:48 | : Christian?
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| 8:48 | : I’m assuming?
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| 8:49 | : Since he’s up?
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| 8:49 | : God, I’m kinda stupid that I’m asking
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| 8:49 | : Since he’s LITERALLY UP
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| 8:49 | : Sorry. Jay’s the one here to be smart.
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| 8:50 | : If Jay’s here to be smart, what are you here for Dan?
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| 8:50 | : comic relief
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| 8:50 | : And for some reason, people are amused by my presence in chats.
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| 8:50 | : Looking up Vazquez
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| 8:52 | : 2.3 WAR, but 88 OPS+ projection for 2020
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| 8:52 | : Astros are going to have a difficult time finding 27 outs over the next couple of days in Fenway
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| 8:52 | : Ok, now what’s the over/under on the starters combining to pitch 9 innings?
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| 8:52 | : I think Jay won
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| 8:53 | : Someone on twitter said that before the playoffs, Altuve re-rolls and min-maxes offense/defense and I think it may be true
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| 8:53 | : Interesting question here: How big does the lead have to be for the Red Sox that, considering Houston’s rotation, you tell Urquidy “dude, you’re throwing 90 pitches even if it’s 15 runs!”
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| 8:54 | : I feel like I helped cause that
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| 8:55 | : It’s 6-0. Can you *really* pull Urquidy before 50 pitches given the low stakes this game has suddenly gotten?
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| 8:55 | : Has to go at least four inning IMO
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| 8:55 | : I think so too
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| 8:56 | : That the casters are agreeing with me worries me, but I stand by that
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| 8:56 | : Sadly for the Astros, it’s Urquidy’s turn in the barrel.
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| 8:56 | : Also, the grand slam totally kills the rally!!!1111
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| 8:56 | : He has got to wear it for the team.  Especially with Garcia’s unknown status.
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| 8:56 | : Not sure 90 pitches gets him to four innings.  Might not get him to two the way this is going.
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| 8:57 | : Kike needs no rally, Dan
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| 8:57 | : I have to call him Hernandez as I’m on my little 65% clicky keyboard and I’m not sure how to make the accents without the number pad!
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| 8:57 | : ALT 0233 WHERE ARE YOU
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| 8:58 | : I know Jay voted for Wagner to make the HOF.  Dan, would you say he deserves a spot?
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| 8:58 | : I would have voted for him
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| 8:58 | : I’ve got a few more years to go
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| 8:58 | : I feel like you don’t really see “home runs kill rallies” takes any more?
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| 8:58 | : A-Rod aside, analysis has generally gotten better over time
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| 8:59 | : Smoltz wouldn’t have even been crappy/grumpy in 1995 or so
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| 8:59 | : If you do take out Urquidy soon, your next reliever has to go 3-4, right?
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| 8:59 | : Yeah, that’s the problem. How many resources do you expend on a 6-0 lead?
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| 8:59 | : I say very few UNLESS the Astros roar back and get like four or five or more next half inning
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| 8:59 | : Am I crazy, or do I recall ARod being widely praised when he first started announcing?
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| 8:59 | : He was good when he was in the studio and it was just at the end of the year
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| 9:00 | : But doing it often, he’s overexposed
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| 9:00 | : Anyone else listening to the ESPN Radio broadcast, rather than Buck/Smoltz?
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| 9:00 | : I rarely do that because I can never get the syn cright
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| 9:01 | : Gotta platoon A-Rod with another analyst
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| 9:01 | : The  Astros must realize Zach Grineke is ON THE ROSTER, right?
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| 9:01 | : I think he gets a start
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| 9:01 | : They practically HAVE to
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| 9:02 | : How many MLB manager/FO people during the regular season would like to have a “mercy” 10-run rule in play after some threshold inning – if you asked them to be really honest?
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| 9:02 | : They’ll never admit it
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| 9:02 | : whoa, I go to tuck my daughter in and the Red Sox scored a touchdown but missed the extra point?
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| 9:03 | : Against Urquidy, they went for two
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| 9:03 | : i was about to offer a fun fact that only one Red Sox postseason game thus far featured no score through two innings. Guess I can stick that one back in my pocket
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| 9:03 | : Girardi has publicly commented on his belief that MLB should explore a mercy rule
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| 9:04 | : Girardi needs a mercy rule for his Philadelphia tenure.
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| 9:03 | : I used to loudly complain about it in little league
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| 9:03 | : I was way too competitive as a kid
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| 9:04 | : The Red Sox do need a better placekicker.
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| 9:04 | : Assuming no rally, Jake Meyers has to pitch a couple innings right?
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| 9:04 | : Cristian Javier last topped 60 pitches in an outing in May
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| 9:04 | : He had a 59 I think last week in the playoffs?
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| 9:04 | : Imagine paying to go to a baseball game and it ends after 1 inning because of the mercy rule.
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| 9:04 | : I’d throw a beer out the press box window in disgust if that happened!
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| 9:05 | : (I’d never bring a beer into the press box)
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| 9:05 | : I’ll usually slam down a couple of beers and/or dogs with random fans between innings
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| 9:05 | : I mean, why not just let teams strategically forfeit then?
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| 9:05 | : Tehcnically, they could do that now
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| 9:06 | : I don’t think the players want that at all
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| 9:06 | : Yeah
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| 9:06 | : You’re WAY into the unwritten rules there
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| 9:06 | : I dont’ think I’d even be able to violate that one, even if a good idea
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| 9:06 | : I like Modest Mouse
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| 9:07 | : That hit from Schwarber is still floating on
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| 9:07 | : Ballplayers have to be irrational–otherwise they’d be scared of the ball like a normal human being. So of course they think they can come back from any deficit.
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| 9:07 | : We ALL do thing that are less than logically superior
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| 9:07 | : You should see me and my personal food safety
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| 9:08 | : if there’s such a thing as a great place to come back from a 6-run deficit, it’s Fenway Park
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| 9:08 | : How many 6-run leads have been blown in post-season history?
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| 9:08 | : That I’m not sure about honestly
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| 9:08 | : I don’t have a db directly on point for that
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| 9:08 | : FO people should be all for it.  Fewer innings = lower counting stats = lower arb salaries.
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| 9:08 | : which is why the union won’t allow it
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| 9:09 | : If a team starts forfeiting games when they’re down by seven, the front office is killed and stuffed by the next day
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| 9:09 | : Re: arb salaries: will the current arb system survive the CBA negotiations?
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| 9:09 | : Mostly
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| 9:10 | : There will EVENTUALLY be a deal and it’ll likely be incremental in nature
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| 9:10 | : Dan, we need to know about your personal food safety.  Illogical because your kitchen is obsessively clean, or illogical because you laugh at salmonella?
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| 9:10 | : Don’t ask how long I will eat things left out or how long they’re fine in the fridge
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| 9:10 | : Anything I make with raw beef has me eating a lot of raw beef
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| 9:11 | : Driving is the biggest threat to your life if you are under like 70, but
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| 9:11 | : Goodness I take a little too long to put the kids to bed and the Red Sox are up by 6.
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| 9:11 | : Any chance there is a single game in the ALCS that has more total runs than the entire NLCS?
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| 9:11 | : SOME chance, but it’s a long one
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| 9:12 | : Thank goodness Vazquez backed that up.
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| 9:12 | : Kiké putting his whole body into those throws is entertaining
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| 9:12 | : lol siri
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| 9:12 | : I don’t think he even saw vazquez
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| 9:12 | : Sounds legit.  Remember, your genes come from the people who *survived* the plague, smallpox, and dysentery.  You’ll be fine.
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| 9:12 | : I can’t believe Smoltz just said “Siri just gave his teammate some horrible information”. I feel like Jose Siri should be allowed to use his bat to pummel anyone who makes a “Siri” joke about him.
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| 9:13 | : very rude to call anything outside the zone a strike when Maldy is up. Be sporting, blue!
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| 9:13 | : Oh, neural network generated nicknames for these two rosters
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| 9:15 | : If it gets really into a blow out territory could we see Verdugo (or another position player) throw an inning or two ?
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| 9:15 | : you will never see a team with a big lead throw a position player in to pitch in the postseason unless it’s well in to extra innings. that’s right up there with stealing bases when you’re up 17-0 or something.
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| 9:15 | : ERod’s velo down this inning?
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| 9:15 | : Yeah, he was mostly 91/92, but not surprising to see him take a little off
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| 9:16 | : Eovaldi frequently gets away from splitters when his team has a cushion
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| 9:17 | : down a little there but in context, not surprising
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| 9:17 | : Since I’m not scheduled for any more NLCS chats.
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| 9:17 | : So where in the world does Dusty find 15 innings from the bullpen for the next 2 days?
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| 9:18 | : it’s in the toothpicks
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| 9:18 | : Dan, how long are things fine in the fridge?
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| 9:18 | : till I see mold, they smell funny, or they taste weird
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| 9:19 | : Does Tony Gonsolin have any actual connection to Ann Arbor? I don’t remember ever seeing him on the Diag.
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| 9:19 | : Are there any stats on the “long wait” theory (about pitching) that announcers seem to be attached to?
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| 9:19 | : I haven’t seen any
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| 9:19 | : doubt it. AI is imperfect or it wouldn’t be as amusing and thus less worthwhile
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| 9:19 | : We also have a hockey game with a very similar score. Flyers are up on the Kraken 6-1
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| 9:19 | : @James, this bullpen usage in the playoffs has been bonkers. The Astros need someone to soak innings tonight or they’re screwed tomorrow.
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| 9:19 | : I would have left Urquidy in
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| 9:20 | : You can’t have five pitchers covering a 6-0 lead
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| 9:20 | : err deficit
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| 9:20 | : Wait… is that not what everybody does?  Serious question.
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| 9:20 | : Lots of people actually will throw things out much quicker!
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| 9:20 | : My mom won’t eat any leftovers after a couple days, which always drove us nuts growing up
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| 9:20 | : One week rule here, but i’ve been known to waive it because we keep our fridge REALLY cold, almost freezing
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| 9:20 | : Lol @ Phil bickford, I mean white chocolate
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| 9:21 | : A whole lot of people have trouble with the idea that “use by” dates are fictitious.
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| 9:21 | : I used mustard that was seven years past best by date before I noticed
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| 9:21 | : They already used Odorizzi, I assume Framber isn’t available, so that leaves…Greinke for long relief?
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| 9:21 | : I think they have to start Greinke at this point
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| 9:22 | : I don’t see how they survive without a Javier or Greinke start
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| 9:22 | : a couple years ago I cleaned out fridge items that were left from my first marriage, which ended in 2010.
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| 9:22 | : Fun fact – cheese is perfectly edible after a week outside in the summer (learned that backpacking)
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| 9:22 | : but I hadn’t been using them.
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| 9:22 | : good Lord, Astros playing Little League defense here
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| 9:22 | : I don’t refrigerate a stick of butter I’m using
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| 9:23 | : Mustard keeps approximately forever.
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| 9:23 | : Bah, you don’t even need to refrigerate mustard. It has anti-bacterial properties.
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| 9:23 | : Yeah, I kept using it
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| 9:23 | : Room temperature butter is the best butter
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| 9:23 | : It spreads so nicely!
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| 9:23 | : Maybe the way to tolerate Smoltz’s griping about today’s pitching is to see him as a romantic. He’s attached to the notion of the starter as knight errant, or as Western town marshal.
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| 9:23 | : My mother in law doesn’t refrigerate sticks of butter. I tried it and it went rancid in a few days.
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| 9:23 | : No way, it lasts awhile
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| 9:24 | : but I keep my house on the cold side
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| 9:24 | : You stop using it when it tastes like gorgonzola
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| 9:24 | : i keep a stick of butter out all the time and I never had one go bad
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| 9:24 | : they make butter dishes for a reason.
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| 9:24 | : Oh god, my mom bought a butter bell and did NOT UNDERSTAND IT
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| 9:25 | : She was just storing her butter underneath the butter bell like a cloche
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| 9:25 | : and I almost lost my shit, i was MOM, HOW DO YOU THINK THIS WORKS?
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| 9:25 | : oof
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| 9:25 | : LOL i never did learn how to use the butter bell, but I’m fine with keeping mine in the fridge.
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| 9:26 | : JFC, I think that one was a homer before Arroyo was even done his swing
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| 9:26 | : She literally thought there was a substance in the bell that kept the butter fresh, which makes no sense.
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| 9:27 | : And she’s not 90 or something. At the time she was like 64 and a college graduate!
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| 9:27 | : 109 mph
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| 9:27 | : Looking forward to even more obscure culinary convos now that it’s 9-0 in the third.
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| 9:27 | : A TD and FG still gets the lead
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| 9:28 | : I don’t really think the Astros are out of this, though. I think they’ve scored 5 runs in every single playoff game so far, six in I think more than half? They can put up runs in a hurry. Obviously they’d rather not be down 6 and the win expectancy doesn’t lie but I don’t think this is quite over yet.
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| 9:29 | : a comeback from 6-0 was plausible, 9-0 less so.
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| 9:28 | : unlike Astros, I’m still in this!
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| 9:28 | :    | 
| 9:29 | : Here’s one for Jeremy – next time you go to McDonald’s for breakfast, see if you can get them to make you a breakfast sandwich with hash browns instead of bread.  I call it the McHangover.
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| 9:29 | : Is there a mercy rule for chats? Like, if one team is up by 10 after 7, and the chat is discussing antique Ugandan kitchen utensils, is the chat over?
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| 9:30 | : I’m strictly here for the food takes now. We need a good recipe to try
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| 9:30 | : Dan, what is your preferred form of raw beef?
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| 9:30 | : I love steak tartare. Been eating it since I was a little kid
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| 9:30 | : one of my favorite snacks is frozen tater tots. always sneak a handful while baking the rest in the oven.
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| 9:31 | : too high for devers!
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| 9:31 | : If you were Dusty, how would you manage the pen for the rest of this game? Try and find a hero to eat innings a la Tim Wakefield in game 3 2004? Burn through a few arms but limit the overall number of pitches for each?
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| 9:31 | : See if Dallas Keuchel and Collin McHugh want to pick up some work on the side. Ask around for Scott Kazmir’s number, too?
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| 9:32 | : Whoops here’s the recipe: https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/carrot-cilantro-and-chil…
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| 9:32 | : This stuff is great. I eat it all the time with corn chips, and I’m not even vegetarian. I skip the Thai chiles and just sprinkle in ground cayenne pepper until it’s as spicy as I want it:
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| 9:33 | : When’s the last time a position player pitched in the playoffs? Ever?
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| 9:33 | : I was at the Austin Romine game
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| 9:33 | : which was also the Brock Holt cycle game
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| 9:33 | : I’m sure a reliever can fly up from Sugar Land in time before the game ends
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| 9:34 | : We just finished 3 innings. Perhaps drive up
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| 9:34 | : Schwarber contract prediction? I’m thinking 3/39 or 4/50 ish?
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| 9:34 | : HEY I GOT A PROJECTION THINGAMABOB
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| 9:35 | : 
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| 9:35 | : ZiPS says 3/55 or 4/68
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| 9:35 | : I know people talked about Schwarber as an underrated signing at the trade deadline in various places but I sure wasn’t expecting this
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| 9:36 | : Schwarber was #3 on my hitter breakout list!
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| 9:36 | : Vlad, Kirilloff, Schwarber, Sanchez, Crawford, Lowe, McMahon, Urias
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| 9:37 | : nice list there
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| 9:38 | : The pitchers list did better
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| 9:38 | : Montgomery, Musgrove, Eflin, Means, Tepera, Urias, Cease, Springs
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| 9:38 | : Be pretty smart for Cora to ride E Rod as far as possible until or if he gives up 4-5 runs or so, don’t you think? Run up his pitch count. Maybe even more runs if the Sox tack on more
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| 9:39 | : Maybe he’s not stretched out enough now that I think of it
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| 9:39 | : Within reason. The fewer relievers you have to burn that won’t be available tomorrow the better.  That’s yet another reason a mercy rule is dumb is that in a multigame series, what happens here in this protracted garbage time has an impact on pitcher availability going forward. The Astros can force the Red Sox to burn somebody important if they work at it enough. | 
| 9:40 | : It’s a long way from Sugar Land to get any relief up here to stop the Astros bleeding.
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| 9:40 | : We’re not in Houston anymore, Toto.
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| 9:40 | : We’re only in the 3rd, they can drive up by the end of the game!
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| 9:40 | : err 4tth
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| 9:41 | : Dan, rate my grandmother’s chili recipe: 
 
 Cook until meat is dissolved. | 
| 9:41 | : That’s a really good one
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| 9:42 | : Now, I’d use more chili peppers
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| 9:43 | : Dried chilis are super cheap for massive amounts and there’s such a variety of tastes
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| 9:43 | : I’d show you the adorable handwritten card that it’s on, but I can’t post photos.
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| 9:43 | : But there’s no beans and it’s basically meat + spice + chili pepper
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| 9:44 | : even if it’s chili powder
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| 9:44 | : Jo Buck: “It’s at the point now where you take the regular season numbers and throw them away.”
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| 9:45 | : when Joe Buck said that, my eyes rolled back in my head so far that I could see my own brainstem.
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| 9:44 | : You can’t upload photos? I have an “upload image” button…
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| 9:44 | : 9-3 thanks to a 3-run homer by Kyle Tucker. WE HAVE A BALLGAME, FOLKS!
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| 9:44 | 
| 9:45 | : they still need the TD
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| 9:45 | : I tend to sub peppers for powder when I make it. Lots of options at the tiendita.
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| 9:45 | : Thoughts on canned chipotles in adobo for chili?
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| 9:45 | : I love those little cans
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| 9:45 | : They’re so useful. I always have some on hand
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| 9:45 | : Something refreshing about a high-scoring playoff series, not gonna lie
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| 9:45 | : chipotles in adobo are awesome. now there’s something I keep in the fridge for-freakin’ ever
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| 9:45 | : i feel like the people who would be most in favor of a mercy rule would be play by play announcers
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| 9:46 | : Assume money is equal: keep Schwarber or JDM at this point?
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| 9:46 | : for me, Schwarber because he’s 6 years younger
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| 9:46 | 
| 9:46 | : Honestly, I kind of love when the game’s out of hand and the announcers can get going on tangents.  It’s like the broadcast version of Dan’s chili and sandwich chat.
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| 9:47 | : Beat writers more than play by play, I bet. At least the broadcasters get to be on TV.
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| 9:47 | : I know beat guys hate extra innings and stuff
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| 9:47 | : Chili without beans is a waste and has  no depth.. like current starting pitchers today
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| 9:47 | : It’s OK to prefer beef and bean stew
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| 9:47 | : If Altuve can turn a DP, it might be 4-3 right now. (fallacy of the predetermined outcome be damned)
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| 9:48 | : It was forgivable last time, but Smoltz is going to tell a Siri joke every time he sees Siri
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| 9:48 | : Beat writers have to stick around for the press conference and then write their stories. They’ve got two hours left when the announcers go home.
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| 9:48 | : Fallacy of the Predetermined Outcome is the name of my next album
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| 9:49 | : I always feel guilty at the end of games. The writers are all loading up into the elevator to head down to the dugout
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| 9:49 | : Hey Siri, when will the Astros win this series?
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| 9:49 | : and typically, I don’t really *need* to be there, so I’m heading to my car!
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| 9:49 | : is vegetarian chili real chili? i make it a lot and it’s definitely good, but idk how much of a purist people are
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| 9:49 | : it can be good, it’s just something else.
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| 9:51 | : To kind of steer this to baseball-related food
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| 9:51 | :    | 
| 9:51 | : I’m participating in a chili cook off at work. Any advice, Dan?
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| 9:51 | : Depends where you are!
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| 9:51 | : This is the 2021 ERod I remember. Not putting guys away and throwing 25+ pitches in an inning
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| 9:51 | : Callback to Dumbass Jay of 8:05 PM: “i’d like to believe that just once the Red Sox can play a game at Fenway that doesn’t last 4 hours.”  We’re nearly two hours in and not even done with the top of the 4th. | 
| 9:52 | : You didn’t say you believed that, only that you’d like to believe it!
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| 9:53 | : you’re right
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| 9:53 | : Here’s the real chaotic evil hot dog: https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/grilled-carrot-hot-dogs-…
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| 9:53 | : What is your favorite fantasy team name?  I personally like “Veteran Presence,” given my penchant for drafting players who have big name value but are past their prime.
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| 9:53 | : back when I still played — now more than 10 years ago — my favorite was El Maximo Jaffe.
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| 9:53 | : It’a a good ‘ole North Carolina chili cook-off.
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| 9:53 | : oooo, I’d try to push it towards the flavor profile of the BBQ part of the state you’re in
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| 9:54 | : Don’t use tomatoes unless you’re in a lexington-style area
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| 9:54 | : Is Tucker doomed to a career of Trout-like non-recognition because he looks and acts like a default character in MLB The Show?
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| 9:54 | : What computer games have you been playing recently, Dan?  (Or Jay,  if Jay plays any.)
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| 9:55 | : Been playing New World
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| 9:55 | : And Hearthstone
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| 9:55 | : We’re in the border between vinegar based verse tomato based BBQ. Personally not a fan of the vinegar based so now I’m at a loss.
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| 9:56 | : Depends on what you think the testers will prefer then!
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| 9:56 | : The goal of a cookoff is to WIN not make the most legit chili
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| 9:56 | : If I participated in a cincy-area cookoff, I’d do the whole cincy stuff
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| 9:56 | :   Source:   | 
| 9:58 | : Fun fact: no one else in MLB history has had the name “Xander” or “Bogaerts.”
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| 9:58 | : I would have guessed another Xander
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| 9:59 | : No Zanders either
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| 9:59 | : though Zander Wiel will probably get at least a PA
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| 9:59 | : I was very close to being named Alexander
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| 9:59 | : And you KNOW I’d go as Zander Szymborski
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| 9:59 | : I’d probably even drop the S in the last name
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| 10:00 | : Szander
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| 10:00 | : Alexander was on my short list for names if we had a boy instead of a girl. Not sure I can see Xander or Zander though
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| 10:00 | : Szander Szymborski!
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| 10:00 | : Odds that Arroyo is the starting second baseman next year?
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| 10:00 | : Fairly low I think
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| 10:00 | : I think he’ll have a big role and be versatile
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| 10:00 | : but I think Boston’s going to be fairly active in FA
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| 10:01 | : wouldn’t surprise me if he gets first crack. they need pitching more.
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| 10:01 | : They better get moving because I’m not chatting until 2 AM and I’m sure Jay isn’t either!
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| 10:02 | : nope, if this isn’t a close game at 11 PM, i’m out
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| 10:03 | : worst playoff series ever so far enjoyment wise? hated teams playing 5 hour blow outs
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| 10:03 | : Game 1 was fine
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| 10:03 | : I’m glad I don’t have to write up this one, the second half of Game 2 was a chore
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| 10:03 | : Aww, but who will we chat with as the game crawls to its inevitable end?
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| 10:03 | : God
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| 10:03 | : the first game was great
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| 10:04 | : the kitchen utensil drawer organizers I researched and ordered during Game 1 arrived today, i’ve got a big night ahead of me.
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| 10:04 | : which was less a commentary on my general interest in t his series and more on my need for some down time after last week.
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| 10:05 | : (
 I don’t want to say that my feelings about these two teams  led me to prioritize organizing my sock drawer. My kitchen drawer, on the other hand… I spent an hour and $60 configuring a modular system for my utensils. 
 Big Friday night here, folks. Party just gettin’ started. for those interested) | 
| 10:05 | : I think for me, the worst ones are the ones I have no recollection of
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| 10:05 | : Like Dodgers-Diamondbacks 2017 NLDS Dodger sweep. I’m looking at it and I have ZERO recall over anything
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| 10:06 | : this series, I’ll at least remember Grand Slam City
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| 10:06 | : This game is at risk of falling in Uncanny Blowout Valley right now. If it stays 9-0, that’s not much fun. If the Red Sox keep scoring and it ends up, like 20-0, that’s…well, not fun exactly, but more fun than staying 9-0.
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| 10:06 | : Ot
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| 10:06 | : s 0=3!
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| 10:06 | : It’s 9-3!
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| 10:06 | : Sorry, my clicky keyboard needs charging so I switched to my main one
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| 10:06 | : I feel like Verdugo’s necklace maybe costs more than my car…
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| 10:06 | : The diamondbacks made the playoffs in 2017?
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| 10:07 | : They won 93 games!
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| 10:07 | : In my own defense, 9-3 is also in Uncanny Blowout Valley.
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| 10:07 | : I’m a Red Sox fan and I probably won’t watch more than half of this game because of the start time and the length. MLB has a problem with how it presents its product in the playoffs.
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| 10:07 | : Archie Bradley playoff triple baby
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| 10:07 | : beat the Rox in the Wild Card for the right to lose to the Dodgers.
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| 10:07 | : Hey, something I could do.
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| 10:07 | : It wasn’t that long ago the DBacks AND Rockies were good at the same time
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| 10:08 | : Feels like they both slammed the window of contention on their thumbs… intentionally.
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| 10:08 | : Rank playoff series by the absolute value of the changes in WPA during the games!
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| 10:08 | : you gonna do that for us?
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| 10:09 | : If I can quickly! lol
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| 10:09 | : I did it last year for individual games
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| 10:09 | : and I thinK WS Game 4 was the swingiest playoff game ever
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| 10:09 | : or something
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| 10:10 | : I might be misremembering
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| 10:10 | : Also in my own defense, I’m watching this chat more closely than the game.
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| 10:10 | : The Astros/Cleveland ALDS series may have never happened.
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| 10:10 | : I’m a Red Sox fan in the mountain time zone, and I’m not going to watch this game until the end either unless something big changes.
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| 10:11 | : Dangit, I don’t know where I stashed individual play log
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| 10:12 | : Wait, I found some of the accumulated data
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| 10:13 | : These are the swingiest games in MLB postseason history
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| 10:13 | :    | 
| 10:13 | : ooh
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| 10:13 | : 2011 WS Game 6 was insane
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| 10:13 | : And there are some GREAT games in there
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| 10:14 | : wow, why so few from pre-WW2?
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| 10:19 | : What did you think of the Dodgers pitching decisions in game 2 (starting Scherzer instead of Buehler in normal rest, using Urias out of the bullpen when they could have gone Graterol, Treinen, Jansen, and not using Jansen to start the 9th inning)
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| 10:19 | : Puzzling. I love Urías’ flexibility but why are you carrying Bruihl if not to go through the top of the order there, or line up one of your righties that has had success vs. lefties this year — which is basically all except Graterol.
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| 10:20 | : The Scherzer decision… obviously there was a lot we didn’t know about how he was feeling. If you knew he could only give you a few innings, starting him in G1 at least means you don’t have to roll out Knebel/Gonsolin twice in the first 5 games
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| 10:22 | : Graterol instead of Jansen, i kind of get in retrospect because Graterol’s velo and ability to stop the running game has some value if you know the Braves are going to try to smallball it (runners go at will vs. Jansen). But just overall a terrible night for Roberts.
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| 10:20 | : I’m still here, just working on this
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| 10:21 | : For some reason, my team numbers are FG from 2003-2020 and something I made up before that
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| 10:21 | : (it’s hard to remember my reasoning on a spreadsheet form a year ago)
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| 10:21 | : I knew something was wrong and Royals/Pirates in the 2019 postseason was the worst game
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| 10:22 | : Fewer evenly matched teams pre-WW II? Yankees just outclassed everyone else too often?
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| 10:22 | : There are just so many more games recently so they swamp the old ones!
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| 10:22 | : 1980 was one of the great years for playoff games. And they involved lots of fun memorable players. Very underrated postseason year, I feel like.
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| 10:23 | : Given the way that the 1977 division winners repeated in 1978 and then disappeared in 1979, 1980 was a strange callback
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| 10:23 | : but those were fun games. Watching George Brett go off on the Yankees was entertaining as hell
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| 10:26 | : I am multitasking and just came uncomfortably close to pasting part of an employee review into the chat window.
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| 10:26 | : Would have been really awkward if you left it up for one of us to fire him.
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| 10:27 | : Here were the least swingy games
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| 10:27 | :    | 
| 10:30 | : need series game numbers for that one to really understand it
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| 10:33 | : Yeah
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| 10:33 | : I don’t think doing it for series works as well
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| 10:33 | : Games it does seem to have a lot of correlation
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| 10:33 | : But for an entire series, it doesn’t work
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| 10:34 | : Yordan up reminds me that Brantley doesn’t need to be batting second against lefties. Wonder if that changes after this game?
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| 10:35 | : Doubtful — I’m not sure Dusty looks at Brantley hitting second in that context and says, “This is our big problem.” Which isn’t to say that he shouldn’t deal with it, but with starters not working deep into games it might matter less than in the past.
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| 10:34 | : I guarantee this is nobody’s list of best playoff series
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| 10:34 | :    | 
| 10:35 | : I think the 2005 WS was the single most boring World Series of my lifetime.
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| 10:36 | : Maybe try best three games?
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| 10:37 | : 2005 had some good games for a sweep. The 2014 AL Wild Card was wild af
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| 10:38 | : but yeah, that list… doesn’t work
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| 10:38 | : Expectations for Greinke if he starts game 4? Starting someone that has only thrown 49 pitches over the last month seems awfully dangerous.
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| 10:38 | : I think the context of this postseason tells us he’s going through the order twice and not much more. I wouldn’t have high hopes
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| 10:39 | : He’s not going to pitch 8 shutout innings and turn it over to the closer
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| 10:39 | : The list is mostly just ‘Team [x] finds many ways to lose inventively in as few games as possible’ (note two Twins-Yankees series)
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| 10:40 | : Jay is that through the order twice in one or two innings?
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| 10:41 | : I could see Dusty giving Greinke a *very* long leash, given Dusty still seems like a more traditional manager and the Astros’ bullpen will be depleted after tonight.
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| 10:42 | : If Greinke were fully healthy, sure. But he wouldn’t be a huge question mark if he were healthy.
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| 10:42 | : Ranking by three swingiest games is a bit better
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| 10:42 | :    | 
| 10:42 | : There are some up there that don’t excite me, but there are a *lot* of great series at the top of it
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| 10:42 | : wait isn’t that just the same list as before
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| 10:42 | : oops, wrong link
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| 10:43 | :    | 
| 10:43 | : that starts to look pretty good except I have no memory of that Rockies-Phillies series
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| 10:43 | : Why divide by # of plays? Can we see it sorted by total WPA change
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| 10:44 | : I can do that too
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| 10:45 | : Also might be worth weighing later games in the series to try to get change in % winning the series instead of % winning the game. Sounds difficult though
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| 10:45 | : It’s something I could figure out with more time
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| 10:45 | : But I’m kinda doing this on the fly!
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| 10:45 | : Series ranked by probability change in top 3 games
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| 10:45 | :    | 
| 10:46 | : that’s got some bangers
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| 10:46 | : 1995 Mariners-Yankees was bonkers
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| 10:47 | : Here’s the least probability change in top 3 games
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| 10:47 | :    | 
| 10:48 | : i think  you have to ditch the 1-game WCs in both lists
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| 10:48 | : separate category
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| 10:49 | : Yeah, I don’t have a neat way of doing it without starting over with the data
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| 10:49 | : I’m intrigued by that sox/giants 1912 series
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| 10:49 | : Wait, I know how I can filter it
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| 10:50 | : the 1912 WS had a great reputation
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| 10:50 | : It’s also the only best-of-eight WS
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| 10:50 | : One of the games was called for darkness
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| 10:50 | : called in the 11th with a 6-6 tie!
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| 10:50 | : Can you imagine the hoopla that would ensue
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| 10:50 | : if you called WS Game 2 a tie in the 11th?
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| 10:53 | : It may have been the only beat of 8 but there were several beat of 9’s.
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| 10:53 | : Yup
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| 10:53 | : After Black Sox
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| 10:53 | : but that 1912 is just something that wouldn’t happen today
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| 10:53 | : I had a 164 game season on MLB the Show road to the show. I didn’t even know that was possible
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| 10:53 | : In certian tiebreakers!
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| 10:54 | : 1912 was the Snodgrass Muff World Series
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| 10:55 | : Fred Snodgrass, Giants CF, dropped a 10th inning fly ball that became the tying run and the Red Sox added another to win
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| 10:56 | : With Rodriguez’s 6 innings and Urquidy’s 1.2 innings, the average start in this postseason is now down to 4.06 innings
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| 10:56 | : OK, that last one with one-game WCs filtered out
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| 10:56 | :    | 
| 10:57 | : Didn’t need to do it for tops since no one game WCs made that since it’s a quantity
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| 10:57 | : Are you in favor of re-seeding the playoffs so a team like the Dodgers gets home-field advantage against a team like the Braves?
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| 10:57 | : Yes
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| 10:57 | : And the first round should be by record
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| 10:57 | : There is NFW that the Giants should have had to face Dodgers in NLDS
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| 10:58 | : I like the do-or-die penalty a WC team faces for not winning the division. I could get on board with re-seeding after that one though. Dodgers-Giants should have been 7 games.
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| 10:58 | : My dad and I watched Ken Burns’ Baseball last year and we couldn’t believe how wild some of the early WS were, including 1912
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| 10:58 | : Can’t Greinke just throw eight innings of eephus pitches tomorrow? Don’t need to be fully healthy for those!
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| 10:58 | : OK, I’m here for good now, done messing around with Excel and swingy games
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| 10:58 | : Normally you get this stuff when it’s all polished and clean in an article!
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| 10:59 | : Dalbec sounds like a style of beer
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| 10:59 | : I, on the other hand, am going to ice my shoulder so to speak
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| 10:59 | : Feel like you don’t see bats explode like that very often any more. I guess because the bat manufacturers put hard glazes on the bats now?
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| 10:59 | : Nobody corks ’em anymore!
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| 11:00 | : Good night, folks! Thanks for stopping by. Dan will carry on as only he can for awhile longer.
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| 11:00 | : Apologies in advance for me being me.
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| 11:01 | : Unless this goes forever, I’ll hang for the last dregs.
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| 11:01 | : The benefits of being a childless loner!
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| 11:01 | : Though I don’t know if this game it counts as a benefit! lol
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| 11:01 | : Several of the Boston announcers call Dalbec Daubach. Can they just not pronounce it or do they actually think he’s Brian Daubach?
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| 11:01 | : Let’s be honest: it’s really the same dude!
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| 11:01 | : Who’s the most average big league position player? Pitcher?
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| 11:02 | : I’m not digging into any more excel stuff solo!
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| 11:02 | : Dan, is Yelich’s career turning into a zips time warp article in the making??
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| 11:02 | : I wouldn’t say that…yet
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| 11:02 | : if you could save runs for later, how big of a lead would you need for you to say “this is enough”
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| 11:02 | : Depends on the inning!
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| 11:02 | : Should the Sox be saving some of these runs for later in the series?
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| 11:02 | : They might be using up all the grand slams!
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| 11:03 | : what is something you are still hoping to see in this game?
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| 11:03 | : The end of the ninth! 😀
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| 11:04 | : Did you know that someone once threatened to shoot Mickey Mantle’s kneecaps out? https://permanent.fdlp.gov/lps1288/mantle.pdf
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| 11:04 | : I did not
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| 11:05 | : I feel like Mantle’s knees were in pretty bad shape by the end even without being shot.
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| 11:05 | : This was for the Korean war
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| 11:05 | : He had an existing ankle issue
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| 11:06 | : and the second time he was examine, a knee issue
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| 11:06 | : Bengie Molina style
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| 11:06 | : POP TARTS
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| 11:06 | : Sorry, old Baseball THink Factory playoff chat joke
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| 11:06 | : The running joke was that any time a Molina brother was running, Pop Tarts were assumed to be involved.
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| 11:07 | : Martin Perez always causes me to recall Melido Perez
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| 11:07 | : I always say Aaron Sanchez ‘ay-RONE’ because of the chef
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| 11:07 | : Dalbec kept starting all summer, long after many had given up him. then got super hot in August and September. But now mostly is on the bench in the playoffs. Any insight?
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| 11:08 | : It’s hard given the roster
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| 11:10 | : Hi Dan. Curious if you ever thought about applying ZIPS to players like Newcombe, Minoso…
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| 11:10 | : I’m just not as comfortable with the translations
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| 11:11 | : It’s definitely something to consider in the future
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| 11:11 | : Anyhoo, I lost my thought
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| 11:11 | : JDM’s ankle probably crushed Dalbec’s PT
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| 11:12 | : because the Sox really prefer Schwarber at first than in the outfield
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| 11:12 | : I’d like to see a triple into the triangle. Just for fun
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| 11:13 | : Dan, do you have a favorite person in the stands at all of these games? One of my favorites at fenway is the guy third row above the astros logo, white hair, sunglasses
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| 11:13 | : I don’t really fan watch
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| 11:13 | : Altuve loafing down the line there
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| 11:13 | : Martinez can’t play outfield with his ankle, which means Schwarber has to play first.
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| 11:13 | : Phil said it before I did, for the record
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| 11:13 | : (Sorry Phil, I hadn’t scrolled all the way yet)
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| 11:13 | : I had to break up a cat fight
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| 11:14 | : What are some of your favorite BBTF memories?
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| 11:14 | : The running gag that Chris Truby was a satanist which eventually got back to him apparently
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| 11:14 | : THEy”RE USING UP ALL THE HOMERS
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| 11:15 | : is schwarber so bad in the outfield that a position he’s played like 10 times is better?
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| 11:15 | : Fenway is not a fun place for an inexperienced OF
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| 11:15 | : It was purely by accident
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| 11:15 | : Someone was trolling about players loafing and used Albert Belle as an example
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| 11:15 | : And Tom Nawrocki, a rolling stone editor at the time
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| 11:16 | : Said something to the effect of “Everyone’s always finding excuses to include Albert Belle negatively. If Chris Truby was discovered doing satanic dismemberment, people would whine about how they’re tired about how modern players like Chris Truby and Albert Belle are satanists.”
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| 11:17 | : So naturally, that resulted in a decade of Chris Truby Satan jokes.
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| 11:18 | : Also, the Trade Deadline Extravaganza I ran in 2009
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| 11:18 | : I organized a 13-man, eight-hour chat for the trade deadline.
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| 11:19 | : Schwarber is a born DH. Surely he’d have had a more impressive career to this point if he’d come up in the AL? More PAs and therefore more HRs.
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| 11:19 | : That was the longest underhand flip I’ve ever seen.
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| 11:19 | : Unfortunately, the transcript no longer works as the CoveritLive service no longer functions
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| 11:19 | : That was a couple of months before I started writing for ESPN
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| 11:20 | : and I never thought to go back and transfer that transcript to text
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| 11:20 | : Aww Jeff Sullivan. I loved his work. He and Dave Cameron really got me into Fangraphs, and baseball in general again, when I was in my late 20s.
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| 11:20 | : So, I was sitting here, as a Yankees fan, pondering who I hate more between HOU and BOS. I was just thinking I kinda like Boston better, when Fenway starts chanting “Yankees Suck” 😂
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| 11:20 | : It’s always a little sad finding an abandoned website, seeing all the old posts tailing off
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| 11:21 | : Do you know how Swydan is doing, Dan? Did his bookstore survive the pandemic?
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| 11:21 | : I haven’t talked with him, but I believe it’s still open!
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| 11:22 | : I don’t live anywhere near there, but I know he was active in organizing all sorts of events and stuff to keep people going
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| 11:23 | : For those who haven’t seen ti
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| 11:23 | : oh hey, this game might not crack the 3.5 hour mark
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| 11:23 | : I’m surprised
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| 11:23 | : the second half BLEW BY
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| 11:23 | : who the heck is this pitcher?
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| 11:23 | : It’s Sawamura!
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| 11:24 | : But why haven’t I even heard his name?
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| 11:24 | : He’s a real deep cut
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| 11:24 | : he wasn’t on the alds roster
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| 11:26 | : well, he’s doing his job! It’s time for me to go to bed
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| 11:26 | : Sawamura’s splitter is a lot of fun
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| 11:26 | : But it’s a little erratic
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| 11:27 | : So the Red Sox didn’t really use him in a lot of high-leverage situations
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| 11:27 | : since he’s walk prone
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| 11:27 | : Which happened to him at times in japan too
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| 11:27 | : Sawamura was arguably the big mistake of G1
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| 11:27 | : See ya, ZZ
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| 11:27 | : Thanks for staying up with us, Dan! Jay’s a snoozer-loser.
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| 11:27 | : Jay’s got a young daughter!
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| 11:27 | : He need his rest.
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| 11:27 | : Me, what am I going to do tomorrow? Get tacos?
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| 11:28 | : As do we all. Thanks for the chat Dan!
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| 11:28 | : Wait, we ALL do?
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| 11:28 | : Shoot, someone email me where my kid is because I was unaware!
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| 11:28 | : On that note, thanks for coming out everyone!
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| 11:28 | : We appreciate all the support you’ve shown FanGraphs in the last 18 months.
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| 11:28 | : And t hanks for toughing out a game that was…not the most high intensity one
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Meg is the editor-in-chief of FanGraphs and the co-host of Effectively Wild. Prior to joining FanGraphs, her work appeared at Baseball Prospectus, Lookout Landing, and Just A Bit Outside. You can follow her on Bluesky @megrowler.fangraphs.com.
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