Gary Sánchez Has No Trade Value
When looking at statistics for the 2020 season, everything should be taken with a grain of salt. The players had to prepare and then play in the middle of a pandemic with adjusted routines and preparation, as well as a lack of fans in the stands. Added to the mix is the 60-game season, which is just over a third of a normal year. All of that is going to lead to some weird-bad stat lines — like, for example, the one Gary Sánchez put up.
Sánchez stepped up to the plate 178 times in 2020 and got just 23 hits for a batting average of .147. Among the 18,273 batters with at least 150 plate appearances since 1969, that figure ranks 18,259th. His rate of hits per plate appearance was 13%, a touch behind Mike Trout’s rate of extra-base hits in his career. Thanks to the walks (18 and a 10.1% rate) and homers (10), Sánchez’s 69 wRC+ is merely awful instead of historically bad, but it’s still a gruesome line.
But as I said, we need to take these numbers with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, the overall picture of Sánchez as a player isn’t a pretty one right now. Over at ESPN, Buster Olney wrote how fixing Sánchez was a top priority this offseason for the Yankees, and what the problems are.
Well, a theory of some rival evaluators is that Sánchez’s confidence is all but shot, with his failures at the plate compounding it. Others note his increasing inability to cope with sliders, a pitch that seems to mystify him and accounts for a lot of his career-high 13.8% swing-and-miss rate in 2020, the worst of his career. At least some evaluators think that Sánchez has a hard time separating his offense from his defense, so that when he makes a mistake behind the plate, that tends to carry over to his hitting, and vice versa. And like many other young players, he seems to struggle to make in-game adjustments.
Some of the mental claims are somewhat dubious. Sánchez was a pretty bad catcher making plenty of mistakes back when he was hitting really well. As for in-game adjustments, he has generally hit the best in the fourth through sixth innings in his career, and since the start of 2019, his numbers in the first three innings match up with the last three innings, while the average player sees a 10-point drop.
The swing-and-miss issues on sliders are pretty indisputable, but they also aren’t new. Sánchez whiffed on 18% of sliders last year, which was right in line with his career averages. The problem for him is that he used to be able to run into a few of them: Last season he posted an .083 ISO on sliders, making him completely ineffective on the pitch. Further compounding things was a more than 50% increase on whiffs against four-seam fastballs: Sánchez went from a 10.7% swing-and-miss rate on four-seamers entering the season to 17% of those fastballs in 2020. That was also the second straight year in which Sánchez saw a big increase in four-seamer whiffs. He’s been swinging through fastballs at roughly the same rate as sliders, and neither number is good.
But wait, it gets worse. I noted Sánchez’s inability to hit the slider for power when he did make contact, and his general inability to get a hit when a ball is put in play ruins his chances of getting on base. Jeff Zimmerman looked at Sánchez’s poor BABIP and found the shift was killing his batting average despite his hard contact. While his high barrel rate makes it seem as though he should hit for a higher average, 10 of his 16 barrels last year were homers; his .281 xwOBA on balls in play is 30 points below league average.
Add that all up, and you get an offensive performance that hit new lows this past season and has been trending downwards for quite some time. Over the last three years, Sánchez has a .200/.296/.453 slash line with a 98 wRC+ in roughly 1,000 plate appearances. Since the middle of June 2019, he’s batting .168/.272/.379 with a 74 wRC+ in close to 400 plate appearances. Some of the blame could go to varying injuries over time, but catching takes a toll on the body, so we can’t exactly wish those away in the future.
While a dip this big in production didn’t seem possible a few years ago, there were always concerns about how Sánchez would profile. In Dave Cameron’s Trade Value Rankings back in 2017, he ranked 12th (which should provide some idea of his star production at the time), but:
That said, there are enough red flags to keep him out of the top tier for now. He’s one of the most extreme pull hitters in baseball, and you’ll note that the guys he’s hanging out with aren’t running BABIPs over .300. Toss in the pop-up problem and a below-average contact rate, and it’s easy to see Sánchez running a .240 batting average one of these years.
As predicted, the extreme pull rate, the popups, and the contact rate combined to make Sánchez a replacement-level player last season.
So what now? If Sánchez could field his position well, the Yankees could justify waiting for the bat to come around. There may be some hope there: He worked on a new catching stance in spring training, and in a very small sample, his framing was pretty close to average, and he still did a solid job with baserunners. If that holds and he is merely a little below-average behind the plate and at least average with the bat, then Sánchez is an average to slightly above-average player. If his catching regresses and the bat is average, then he’s a below-average player and a decent backup. And if he doesn’t get the bat back up to average, he’s the third catcher/26th man on the roster who can pinch-hit and rarely starts.
Unfortunately, the upside is more limited than it has been, too. If Sánchez’s bat really comes back, it might be best to let him make only occasional starts at catcher and take most of his turns at designated hitter —something that isn’t possible if he is just an average hitter. It’s hard to see a reasonable path back to more than anything than a three-win player, and the projections put Sánchez in the one- to two-win range that shouldn’t make him a starter on a contending club.
That leaves the Yankees with a difficult choice. They can hold on to Sánchez and see if he regain the ability to be a star hitter, but that likely entails bringing in another catcher to be the regular starter, as neither he nor Kyle Higashioka can be counted on for full-time (or really half-time) duty. The Yankees are supposedly “open” to trading him, but who is going to give up decent players and pay Sánchez his $5 million salary when he isn’t really projected as a starter-level player? There are a bunch of teams who would likely be willing to take a chance on him — the Rockies, Rangers, Marlins, and Tigers come to mind immediately — but they’re probably unwilling to give up any promising or useful players in exchange. The Yankees could just non-tender Sánchez and move on, but that’s a move that could backfire if he hits well, though signing J.T. Realmuto would likely make any regrets moot.
The Yankees and Sánchez, then, are likely stuck with each other for another season. He’ll get some opportunity to recapture his form, and the Yankees will pay him his relatively modest salary. They can’t trade him for nothing, and they shouldn’t let him go for free. But they also shouldn’t head into 2021 with Sánchez and Higashioka as the starting tandem at catcher. It makes Sánchez something of a potential bonus for the Yankees, and given their history together, it might actually benefit them both to give them one more season to get him back on track.
Craig Edwards can be found on twitter @craigjedwards.
Phillies need to pounce on this guy – Girardi as a mentor is seemingly ideal and due to likely non-tender he should be cheap.
I don’t believe Sanchez and Girardi got along during the 2017 season, and was another reason why the Yankees let Girardi walk after the season.
I seem to recall Girardi didn’t like his catching so much he was starting Romine until the front office told him to knock it off.
Wouldn’t Sanchez’ continued struggles, in a way, validate Joe Girardi’s criticisms and his handling of Sanchez?
Rangers, Tigers, Rockies and Marlins – what kind of trade deal do you think they’d be making for a Sanchez? Someone may still buy into him being a passable catcher and an elite slugger.
Somebody about to be non-tendered.
Projects like Sanchez are usually picked up on minor league deals.
He can’t hit sliders and he can’t stay healthy, those are bad. The first one might be manageable, the second one is out of everyone’s control. The rest of it? You have to remember we’re talking about catcher here. Danny Jansen has a career .208 batting average, Depth Charts thinks he’s getting 384 PAs, and the Blue Jays are projected to have the #4 production out of catcher. Sean Murphy got basically no love for Rookie of the Year and he’s likely going to be one of the top 5 catchers in MLB in 2021. Realistically, Realmuto, Grandal, and Murphy are the only three catchers you can feel comfortable running out there and saying “yep, we’re set”.
Maybe you like Buster Posey or Willson Contreras or Austin Nola but the hitting at catcher right now is spectacularly bad. If teams don’t want to give up anything for Sanchez it’s not because teams don’t have a need. It’s because teams don’t care about catcher. The bizarre lack of love that Yasmani Grandal has gotten suggests the latter might be a real thing.
I think the sooner the robo umps come into play, the less acceptable this will be. We’ll start having mini 1B back there if framing means nothing. Hardly anyone steals bags anymore. But for now, a glove guy with a 60 wrc is passable.
“….but the hitting at catcher right now is spectacularly bad.”
Is it? Last year catchers hit .232/.321/.394. That’s not a whole lot different than the overall average for all hitters of .245/.322/.418. And they were actually better than second base where the triple slash line was .246/.312/.380.
Where are those numbers from?
Baseball Reference:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=b&lg=MLB&year=2020
Looking at some past years, I really don’t see much difference between the present era and past eras. Catchera have always been below average hitters. Even in a year like 2000 when they hit .265/.338/.421, they were below average relative to the league.
Fangraphs has catchers at ,229/,310/.385, 90 wRC+. And FWIW, 2nd base at .247/.315/.386, 91 wRC+.
The difference seems to be that Baseball Refernce counts only PAs for the position that was played during the game. Whereas Fangraphs counts all PAs, regardless of which position was being played.
For example. when Yasmani Grandal played at 1B or DH, Baseball Reference does not count those games in the catcher stats. Whereas Fangraphs does.
So the BR stats are “How do players hit when they play catcher”. Whereas Fangraphs are “How do catchers hit regardless of what position they’re playing.
I just took a look at those numbers. It’s a bigger split in earlier years, but even then, it’s still hovering around 85-90 tOPS+ and 2B from 90-100.
I am honestly shocked it is that good. But then again, I was pretty shocked by Max Stassi, Christian Vazquez, and Roberto Perez suddenly hitting in recent years. So maybe that’s why I was surprised.
Vazquez early was a decent hitter in AAA but stalled when he (sic) hit Boston. They kept him because of superior defense.
Perez was always a good three true outcomes guy with great catching skills but Gomes was a better hitter and comparable defensively.
The Posey/Realmuto types get so much coverage it distorts people’s perception of what a good catcher is. Most teams are willing to take a hit on the bat in return for superior game calling and defense which is why guys like Perez are valuable.
But good defense rarely gets much press and game calling even less. Unless the player caddies for an ace.
I feel like I’m playing MLB Showdown – nothing but 5s and 6s…
Apparently Will Smith (the catcher) needs a better PR agent.
Ah yes, I would add him to the list. I do wonder what happened to his framing last year, though.
Nola is good, too. Regardless of what anyone says, he has a career 119 wRC+, albeit in only a seasons worth of at bats. No part of his performance screams fake. He was on his way to making it to the MLB as a utility infielder/outfielder before he learned to catch in AAA. He is a fine MLB catcher, and in no way are the Padres uncomfortable running him out there everyday. He will be 31 when the next season begins, but he also has only been catching for a couple years so he wouldn’t have the traditional wear and tear.
Someone else mentioned Will Smith, but what about Perez? Guy had a 162 wRC+ last year. At the very minimum, he projects to be an average hitter, and an ok backstop. Plenty of teams would be happy with him as well.
I do wonder what the future of catching is going to be. If robot umps come to fruition, you would have to imagine hitting will improve drastically, because the framing element doesn’t matter anymore. In regards to Sanchez, you would have to imagine that eventually he gets moved. Teams don’t seem to value catchers, but he has had seasons of a 170 and 131 wRC+. Even in 2019 he had a 116 wRC+, and he is still only 27. While he was downright awful last year, and he ended the season prior being downright awful which is troubling, he has had long periods of being entirely worthless for his entire career, so a bounce back seems likely. The authors conclusion, that he seems to lack confidence makes sense. He even looks like he feels embarrassed sometimes. Seems to me he could be another scenery change guy.
I humbly submit Christian Vazquez as an “ok, we’re set” candidate.
Montero for Pineda 2.0 incoming…
Weren’t both those guys traded at their peaks? When Montero was hitting homers and Pineda led the league in avg fastball velocity…ah the hope.
Correction, Pineda was 4th in FB velo in 2011. Ogando, Verlander, and Price were 1-3. Still, a ton of hope for yanks fans at the time.
I remember at the time thinking it was insane to give up a legit ROY candidate with potential future ace stuff for a probably-near-future-dh riding yankee prospect overhype. (Granted it didn’t work out all that well for either team.)
Ugh, terrible take. I mean if you have to use selective endpoints to prove your point…
Gary was great in 2019 and after that stretch from mid June through July that the writer so conveniently starts his time frame, he had about a 1.000 OPS for the final 2 months of the season. By selecting 2018 as the starting point and mid June 2019 as another starting point he gives the appearance of a downward trend then isn’t really there, especially when he starts out by admitting you can’t really put too much stock in 2020.
He did hit well at the end of 2019 but it was only the last 26 games/106 PAs (.989 OPS). Calling it two months is a bit of a stretch.
Personally, I like to look at a a three year sample. During that time (998 PA’s), he’s hit .200/.296/.453. The power is clearly still there but I’m not sure he offers much else offsensively.
August and September but yes, he did miss games due to injury at the time, you are correct. However that is to go along with his first 200ish PA of the season as well. Overall it was a good year with a tough stretch in the middle.
3 years is fine. I get the logic, but 2017 and 2019 were similar years. 2018 was a bad year as was the shortened 2020. The steady downward trend isn’t there especially, if like the author to his credit acknowledged, 2020 is kind of a hard season to take seriously.
If you look at 2017-2019 I could frame it very differently but, again, selective endpoints on my part then. Still, it’s hard to sour too much on anyone due to a rough 2020, Sanchez included.
See I think that’s what makes Sanchez difficult to trade. There’s just no idea what you’re going to get. Throw in the fact that Cashman isn’t the type to just give a player away and it’s hard to see a deal getting done.
I agree. It would be tough to come to an agreement on his worth.
“projections put Sánchez in the one- to two-win range that shouldn’t make him a starter on a contending club.”
This is weird, too.
No team is going to have all of their nine hitters projected for 2+ wins.
And because only a handful of catchers reach even 500 PA, 2 win catchers are much rarer than any other positions.
For instance, in the last full season of 2019, out of 10 teams that made the playoffs, only five of them had a catcher exceed the 2 WAR mark.
Wait, I missed that. Craig actually wrote that? He’s projected for 1-2 wins because Depth Charts thinks he’s only going to get 384 PAs. The total list of catchers who have qualified for the batting title from 2017 to 2019 only includes 14 instances, one of which is Sanchez himself. Over 500 PAs he’s 2 wins, which isn’t ideal but also isn’t really that bad.
Aside from Realmuto, who would be an upgrade for the vast majority of teams, I don’t know who they would find who is better. Molina? Zunino? Ramos? Those guys are practically done. McCann is projected for worse next year than Sanchez. Kyle Higashioka hasn’t walked in his last 100 PAs. And other teams are not going to be trading their actual, functional catchers just because the Yankees want them to. Just sign Jason Castro, who actually is pretty good on a rate basis but is only a part-timer at this point, and see if he can teach Sanchez a few tricks and to split time with him.
Yeah, that didn’t make much sense to me, either. The sliders, health, and ability to block balls are all good points–but if he’s a one-win guy that can sit behind the plate, that’s still worth rostering on a team with a non-hit, good-D nominal starter.
Ugh, you typed “Ugh”
I have to imagine there would be a few teams that would be willing to take a gamble on Sanchez and maybe even give up something of value to get him. Yes, he’s been terrible for the last year and clearly something is broken; however, if you can fix him, having a 3+ win catcher is a luxury only a handful of teams have. Sanchez was playing at an all-star level as recently as the first half of 2019. So basically he had a bad second half of 2019 and this weird COVID season. I don’t think you can completely dismiss this season but you can certainly weigh it less. If you can get Sanchez at a reasonable salary of $5M and only have to give up a 40+/45 FV prospect, that’s a gamble I think a few teams would take.
Agreed, but to clarify, he had a bad stretch in 2019 from mid June through July that the writer so conveniently starts his time frame. He had about a 1.000 OPS for the final 2 months of the season.
.939 OPS over 19 games in Aug/Sept/October regular season in 2019.
You’re repeatedly citing an arbitrary nineteen game sample and accusing the author of cherry picking…?
To go along with the first half of the season he conveniently lopped off too. Yes. That is cherry picking. I’m sorry but Gary Sanchez has been widely talked about for years. If the author is going to pretend that he is on a downward trend and 2019 wasn’t a very good year for the catcher, then yes, he deserves to be called about about that.
Sanchez *is* on a downward trend. No pretending required. And one could easily argue Sanchez was hitting lesser pitching in September, since the playoff races were a lot more defined by September.
Ignoring 2016 because he was red hot over a short period of time and was never likely to consistently produce at that level…
Sanchez has been yo-yoing between good and bad for the last 4 years. It NOT a steady downward trend. 2019 doesn’t fit that narrative and you can’t just ignore it or cherry pick parts of that season to make it appear true. It simply isn’t accurate.
$5MM is a pretty cheap bet on a turnaround.
The Angels gave Matt Harvey $11 million a couple of years ago for some reason. Surely $5 million wouldn’t be much of a barrier, even in these “hard” times
The problem is that if he bounces back next year, you get him for only one more year at a arbitration price that will probably be around 8 million, or more if he’s really good. And the downside isn’t just the 5.5 million for this year, it’s the fact that if he doesn’t work out you miss out on a year of trying to develop another catcher.
So, yeah, some team will pick him up, but I doubt they’ll be lining up, and the Yankees definitely won’t get anything of value for him.
I’m not saying that teams will be lining up for him, or even that the Yankees will get difference-makers back in the deal, just that the salary shouldn’t scare off teams.
1. Who cares about Sanchez’s FA? The Yankees are trying to win a World Series
2. There is no catcher worth developing they could acquire
There are two already developed in the FA pool.
Sanchez is bad at baseball, except for hitting home runs. In the past, the home runs made up for the rest (and more), but now it does not.
You’re bad at analysis.
No he isn’t.
OK. He has an above-average Caught Stealing Percentage. But, you can look it all up on this very website. Below average hitter in everything but ISO, negative framing value, lots of WP/PB, negative baserunning value.
A fuller picture of this player should include that he has long had attitude issues. He was disciplined by the organization while a minor leaguer, and reprimanded for being out of shape when Girardi was manager. Also he has never learned English, which of course is necessary in managing a staff. His passed ball issues everyone remembers. Defensive lapses like that speak to lack of concentration. You can’t trust him in big games and pitchers don’t want to throw to him.
Add this all together and best case is you have a player who needs external motivation. He’s not young anymore, 28, and teams have figured out how to pitch to him. And at $6mm he’s too expensive for a back up.
There should be no way the Yankees keep him. Trade for whatever you can get and let some other team try to fix him.
Sanchez doesn’t speak English to the media, but he does know the language. Stop with that.
Never learned English? First most the players speak functional English. If you are in NY on the Yankees, I can see why you would want to use a translator to speak to the media, for obvious reasons. And even if he doesn’t, who cares? Do you get mad when a catcher has to use a translator to speak to a Spanish speaking pitcher? Spanish is a far easier language to learn, you can’t have it both ways.
I must say my opinion of the guy has always been influenced by the sucker punch he threw at a defenseless Nick Castellanos in the bottom of a pile up in 2017. Hate to see it.
Muggy deserved it
You have yet to describe any actual attitude issues.
Getting vibes of “speak English ‘Murica”.
I wish you didn’t speak english.
How do you think Tanaka and Sanchez talk to each other? Legit question
Probably English to Serbian to Vietnamese and back
The reality is that the Sanchez has worked really hard with the coaching staff and readily taken instruction. The evidence is that he has done everything the coaching staff have asked of him with respect to his catching style. Also Sanchez does speak English. Of course he does! He just doesn’t feel comfortable doing on air television interviews in English. Tanaka also officially does not speak English, and also relies on a translator for interviews. Tanaka is fluent in English. Indeed Tanaka and Sanchez routinely speak to each other in English…
Keep him, pay him, see if you can straighten him out. Right now, he looks more like an offensive Steve Blass, which doesn’t engender confidence, but maybe something can come out of a couple of hundred AB’s in the Spring.
If I’m the Yankees, I upgrade to Realmuto and don’t bother.
Sanchez seems to be one of those “low hands” guys (like Khris Davis) who changed their swing to enter the fly-ball revolution a la Justin Turner, but now can’t hit the high fastball pitchers are using to combat that swing path.
“neither he nor Kyle Higashioka can be counted on for full-time (or really half-time) duty”
Wait… why? Higashioka is projected for 2.2 WAR over 120-130 games. Most of that stems from a fairly high defensive value, but +2 WAR from a catcher earning <$1M is pretty reasonable valuable. Given the incredible strength of the rest of the Yankees lineup, it's also a very acceptable concession to make (they're not the Indians and struggling to get offense from every position).
I don’t trust that Higashioka projection from Steamer at all. He hasn’t walked in his last 100+ PAs while striking out something like 35% of the time, and he’s had a 21% HR/FB rate. ZiPs has him at 0.5 wins over 300 PAs and that seems about right.
Flip for Javy Baez… fills need at SS
Why would Chicago sell low on Baez if all they’d get back for him is Sánchez, an objectively worse player? And their catching situation with Contreras and Caratini is fine too.
an extra year of control.
No one is going to trade anything of value for Baez now coming off the horrendous 2020 season. This swap is actually a win-win. For a rebuilding Cubs team, just about the only guy with value might be Contreras right now, and having Sanchez aboard would make it a little bit easier to deal WC.
This is a very Mike Francesca solution…
“he has generally hit the best in the fourth through sixth innings in his career,”
Is this unusual for Sanchez relative to other hitters, or does pitching in the middle innings suffer from a combination of tiring starters and a reluctance to use good relievers?
Offense aside, there is nothing better than being a Yankees hater and knowing that the throw coming into the plate as the runner rounds third will be “caught” by Gary Sanchez.
To my eye, Sanchez’ problems hitting are that his swing has gotten impossibly long (similar to Chris Davis). Sanchez is winding up and trying to hit everything 500 ft, and that means he is off balance on the vast majority of pitches. He’s early on off speed pitches and late on fastballs. When he first came up he was short to the ball and more contact focused. He’s a player with tremendous power who does not need to load up to drive the ball. If he can get back to focusing on contact he can potentially get back to being an effective hitter. The Yankees need to have Sanchez work with and try to emulate LeMaheiu (assuming DLM is resigned).
On the hopeful side, despite the popular narrative about him, Sanchez is actually a very coachable player. He has changed everything about his catching at the coaching staff’s direction, and he has gone from being an unplayably bad catcher at times, to merely awful. If Sanchez can work with the coaching staff on shortening his swing and thinking about right center field, there is a chance he can get back to being a good hitter. ….a chance.
Sanchez might’ve improved his framing with the new stance but his ability to block pitches in the dirt took a nosedive. While his arm is terrific, I have much more faith in him rebounding at the plate than making substantial strides as a defender.
1) He’s certainly got some trade value. Just as a team would not give Freddie Freeman an $80M/1-year deal based solely on his 2020, teams would also not suddenly start valuing Sanchez as if he was worse than a .5 win player based solely on his 2020.
2) The list of teams that would want to take a shot at a $5M salary is probably not *that* long.
3) The Yankees would be foolish to sell low at this point.
4) He’s not *that* bad a catcher. He’s still got an excellent arm which largely makes up for his poor blocking skills – the latter are just more noticeable.
So would they get something significant? No. Would they get something of value? Sure. Would it make sense for them? No.
“Sánchez was a pretty bad catcher making plenty of mistakes back when he was hitting really well. ”
I continue to be puzzled by this narrative that he’s a horrific defensive catcher. For God’s sake he’s never had a negative defensive season! Is this narrative an admission that all defensive stats are just garbage and everyone trusts the eye test over them, or what? I get that he’s very bad in the area of passed balls, but he’s a been a good-elite framer and thrower.
How the mighty have fallen! He was the top fantasy catcher not very long ago. the top hitting catcher in baseball even more recently