Jeff Samardzija Would Make the Rich Yankees Richer
Last season, the New York Yankees had a top-10 rotation bothby FIP-based WAR and RA9-WAR. They were really good. This offseason, CC Sabathia and Jaime Garcia have left as free agents, and Michael Pineda won’t be around after undergoing Tommy John surgery. But Sonny Gray will have a full season with the club, and top prospects Chance Adams and Justus Sheffield have reached the upper minors, making them ready for in-season call-ups.
All of this is to say, the Yankees will have a good rotation even if they do nothing else this offseason. Right now on the FanGraphs depth charts, the club is projected to have the 10th-best starting rotation in the majors. That’s pretty good, especially when you combine it with a top-notch bullpen, strong offense, and above-average defense.
Nevertheless, the Yankees have an opportunity to get richer.
Travis wrote earlier today about the possibility of trading Jacoby Ellsbury, which makes plenty of sense. I wrote in July that Ellsbury has retained a modicum of value and wasn’t necessarily someone who needed to be traded, but now that the Yankees have Giancarlo Stanton, Ellsbury has descended that much further down the depth chart. So, while the Yankees don’t necessarily need to trade Ellsbury, moving a superfluous outfielder to fill a rotation need would be a wise move.
The current theory is that the Yankees could tie Ellsbury to a top prospect and receive a starting pitcher in return. According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, one such pitcher could be Jeff Samardzija. Samardzija’s contract, as you may recall, allows him to list eight teams to which he is allowed to be traded, effectively giving him a no-trade clause for 22 teams. As far as we know, the Yankees are not one of those 22 teams. In July, Andrew Baggardly wrote that the eight teams to which Samardzija could be traded were the Angels, A’s, Cubs, Dodgers, Mets, Nationals, Red Sox, and Yankees.
Adding Samardzija wouldn’t come free for the Yankees. For one thing, as Sherman notes, there is a disparity in Samardzija’s and Ellsbury’s salaries, so the Yankees might be forced to take on another high-dollar player to balance the scales. More importantly, it would cost the Yankees prospects. You can bet those prospects would be position players, and you can start with Clint Frazier and perhaps add Tyler Wade to the mix. Both would be beneficial for the Giants to have, particularly if San Francisco does look to trade off Joe Panik.
Swapping Ellsbury for Samardzija would carry a significant benefit for the Yankees, though. Here’s how the Yankees’ rotation would project without him:
| Player | IP | WAR |
|---|---|---|
| Luis Severino | 188 | 4.4 |
| Sonny Gray | 186 | 3.0 |
| Masahiro Tanaka | 176 | 3.3 |
| Jordan Montgomery | 160 | 2.1 |
| Luis Cessa | 135 | 0.8 |
| Domingo German | 55 | 0.6 |
| Domingo Acevedo | 55 | 0.3 |
| Total | 956 | 14.5 |
Now, let’s swap Samardzija in and take out some innings from other pitchers to compensate.
| Player | IP | WAR |
|---|---|---|
| Luis Severino | 188 | 4.4 |
| Sonny Gray | 186 | 3.0 |
| Masahiro Tanaka | 176 | 3.3 |
| Jeff Samardzija | 205 | 3.5 |
| Jordan Montgomery | 160 | 2.1 |
| Luis Cessa | 15 | 0.1 |
| Domingo German | 15 | 0.1 |
| Domingo Acevedo | 10 | 0.0 |
| Total | 956 | 16.5 |
Reassigning the bulk of the innings from the triumvirate of Domingo Acevedo, Luis Cessa, and Domingo German to Samardzija nets the Yankees a two-win upgrade. And while Ellsbury is expected to be a player of value, he’s only projected to provide 0.3 WAR on the current Yankees depth chart, since he’s only slated for 231 plate appearances. And that playing time can easily be vacuumed up by Brett Gardner and Tyler Austin. Austin’s projected .305 wOBA more or less matches Ellsbury’s .310 projected mark. In other words, the Yankees probably don’t lose anything of value to the 2018 team if they deal Ellsbury and Frazier for Samardzija.
Is that enough? Who knows. If the Giants insisted on receiving Wade in the deal, too, that might complicate things. With Chase Headley off to San Diego, Wade is currently slated to man third base for the Bronx Bombers. But that could change. And the Yankees have other prospects. Given the machinations of the Yankees this past week, that they still have several good prospects is nothing short of breathtaking.
For the sake of argument, let’s say the deal is Ellsbury plus Frazier plus another prospect not currently expected to contribute to the 2018 Yankees roster — all that for Samardzija. The Yankees get their two-win upgrade in the rotation. Where would that put them?
| Team | SP | RP | Total | Team | SP | RP | Total | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yankees | 16.6 | 5.8 | 22.4 | Mariners | 10.3 | 2.8 | 13.1 | |
| Dodgers | 17.5 | 4.0 | 21.5 | Phillies | 10.7 | 2.3 | 13.0 | |
| Indians | 16.8 | 4.2 | 21.0 | Giants | 10.6 | 2.4 | 13.0 | |
| Astros | 16.1 | 4.4 | 20.5 | Padres | 9.9 | 2.8 | 12.7 | |
| Nationals | 16.5 | 3.9 | 20.4 | Angels | 10.2 | 2.4 | 12.6 | |
| Diamondbacks | 15.5 | 3.4 | 18.9 | Braves | 9.9 | 2.2 | 12.1 | |
| Red Sox | 15.0 | 3.8 | 18.8 | Reds | 9.3 | 2.5 | 11.8 | |
| Cubs | 14.5 | 4.3 | 18.8 | Twins | 8.9 | 2.6 | 11.5 | |
| Cardinals | 15.6 | 3.1 | 18.7 | Rangers | 8.8 | 1.7 | 10.5 | |
| Mets | 15.9 | 2.2 | 18.1 | Athletics | 8.1 | 1.8 | 9.9 | |
| Pirates | 15.1 | 2.8 | 17.9 | Royals | 7.5 | 2.0 | 9.5 | |
| Rockies | 12.9 | 2.1 | 15.0 | Marlins | 7.3 | 1.9 | 9.2 | |
| Rays | 12.4 | 2.4 | 14.8 | Tigers | 8.4 | 0.6 | 9.0 | |
| Brewers | 9.3 | 4.3 | 13.6 | Orioles | 5.6 | 3.1 | 8.7 | |
| Blue Jays | 11.0 | 2.2 | 13.2 | White Sox | 2.9 | -0.7 | 2.2 |
Where this would put them is atop all the pitching staffs in the game, according to the projections. As you can see, it would still leave Cleveland and the Dodgers with superior rotations overall. The Astros and Nationals would linger close behind, too. But add that starting rotation to an excellent bullpen and a position-player group that is already among the top five in terms of projected WAR, and you have the makings of a juggernaut.
The Yankees are a rich team, both in terms of money and talent. This will be true even if they do nothing to alter their current starting rotation — or their current team at all, for that matter. But with Jacoby Ellsbury poised to have a diminished role, the Yankees may be able to sell him off with a top prospect or two and land a starting pitcher, be that Michael Fulmer (as Eno suggested earlier today, or Jeff Samardzija, or someone else. Samardzija might be the most stable pitcher they could land, given that he has posted two wins or better for five straight years and is projected to do so again.
Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.
Should the Yankees really do this? Why not lean more heavily on Jordan Montgomery and Chance Adams, and co? They reared the kids. Time to see what the kids can do. Saves a ton of money for now and gives them 50+ games to determine whether they have a need.
they already tried to sell high on adams, then wouldn’t let him pitch down the stretch in ny. they might feel his value is at his highest now and they should trade him
Nonsense. They had 40 man roster issues, and didn’t want to add him before it became necessary (he didn’t need to be protected from the Rule-5 draft).
If they had added Adams last year, they would have had to expose another good prospect, and would probably have lost him.
they tried to get oakland to take him instead of kap. it’s not that crazy of an idea. they also seem quite set on finding another starter(s) to fill out the rotation
Kap has true frontline stuff, excellent command and a pedigree to match.
Their preferring him to Adams is not an indictment of the latter.
Chance Adams was drafted in the 5th round of the 2015 draft as a relief pitcher. It’s been pretty shocking to see him be this successful as a starter, especially since it’s not like his stuff has improved dramatically. Given the background and the extraordinarily low BABIPs, there is still a great deal of skepticism regarding his ability to be successful as a major league starting pitcher. That’s not to say that he won’t be, but he’s not really the profile an organization like the Yankees would bet heavily on. If he earns his way into the rotation during the season, that’s one thing, but I can’t see them handing him a spot in April and counting on him to keep it.
I mean…he kept all his velocity after moving to the rotation, and added a third pitch.
That should very much be described as his stuff improving dramatically, haha.
He didn’t increase his velocity and he did not add a third pitch, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. Adams himself has said that he already had the changeup in college, he just didn’t throw it as much because he didn’t need to. Also, while his fastball has velocity it’s pretty straight. I don’t think he’s going to be above average at missing bats in the majors, so he’ll have to continue his minor league magic with those BABIPs.
…do you not understand that maintaining single inning velocity across seven innings indicates an improvement in stuff?
I would be interested to see a chart to see how many of The Shark’s fly balls in San Francisco would have been homers in the Bronx.
Beyond that, it sounds like a win-win, although the Yankees would probably prefer to use Frazier to get Fulmer instead.
To be fair we should also look at all the doubles The Shark gave up that would’ve been caught by outfielders who actually run efficient routes to balls.
Yeah, but this whole article is based on FIP. Homers matter for FIP, doubles don’t.
Think there are better options if they trade frazier than samardzjia. Given the moves the Yankees made to clear salary, i think they are more likely to eat half of ellsburys salary plus a middle prospect for a lefty reliever or back end starter.
I’d rather go frazier plus like Dillion Tate and a young kid for Gerrit Cole
really like this idea. giants are one of the few teams that need an outfielder and could stomach jacobys contract, even if the yankees pay some of it down
they need a good outfielder, not “an outfielder”
Question is whether fWAR reflects correctly on JS skills. Over his career his era is a third of a run higher than his fip.after more than 1000 ip we probably need to assume he is like the anti-buehrle.
If he is a 4.1 pitcher and maybe a bit higher in ys where his neutral to flyball tendency won’t work as well he is more of a true two win player or so. Still and upgrade but worth 2 top prospects?
Sabathia is very likely to return on a 1 year deal.
Yep. Plus Ells has already said that he won’t waive his NTC. Which is why they dumped Headley as plan B.
This is the correct assumption. The question that nobody puts on paper is whether Ellsbury would rather ride the pine and get another ring or play for an also ran. He seems to hint that it is the former.
Giants fan here, enjoyed the article! Love Shark, but Giants need to reload the farm system and look forward a couple years toward a realistic run.
Frazier would be a great get, wonder if the Yankees would add Andujar as well. How does he compare to Wade?
The issue with the article is that, for some reason, FG thinks that the Yankees are willing to trade Frazier for the sake of trading him.
Frazier’s being blocked in NY does not suddenly put him on the table for a homer-prone 33 year RHP with 13.5 career RA9-WAR in 1400 career innings, who makes $18m a year.
Ellsbury has said he won’t waive his no trade clause. I bet he would have to be promised a full starting job on a team with a decent chance of contention to even consider it. Maybe the Giants fit that bill, but I doubt that many playoff teams are eager to have a below average hitter in his mid 30s whose best tool is defense (which falls precipitously at that age) making 150+ starts for them.
Hey, now!
Jacoby won’t come close to 150 starts, haha
Perhaps they can get Dan Straily and Jose Urena for Chasen Shreve and a gift certificate to NYY Steak.
The problem I see is that Samardzija’s real world performance is pretty consistently worse than his FIP suggests it should be. If I am the Yankees, I am not betting a top prospect on the chance that his actual results start to match his FIP.
Severino throws hard. Talent is there, but the Yankees need a rubber arm like Samardzija to bump riskier arms down the rotation. Severino, Gray, and Tanaka don’t need to be throwing over 180 regular season innings. It’s also risky to go all in on Montgomery, but he has upside and untapped potential too.