Justin Verlander Reunites With the Astros as the Mets Continue Their Teardown

The Mets’ losses are the American League West’s gains. Three days after the Rangers landed Max Scherzer, the Astros have reacquired Justin Verlander, who less than nine months ago helped them win the World Series, and soon after pocketed his third Cy Young Award. In exchange for the future Hall of Famer and a whole lot of cash, the Mets are receiving two of the Astros’ top prospects, lefty-swinging outfielders Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford.
This is the continuation of a stunning about-face for the Mets, who signed Verlander to a two-year, $86.7 million contract in December and opened the season with a record-setting $352 million payroll. They entered Tuesday at 50-55, 17.5 games out of first place and six back in the Wild Card race, with seven teams above them. Once owner Steve Cohen gave general manager Billy Eppler the green light to trade closer David Robertson to the Marlins last Friday, the dominoes began falling, with Scherzer waiving his no-trade clause to be dealt to Texas, and then Mark Canha being sent to Milwaukee on Monday.
As with the Scherzer deal, the Mets are eating the majority of the remaining money on Verlander’s contract to improve their return. They sent $35.5 million out of the roughly $57.7 million remaining on Scherzer’s two-year, $86.7 million contract to Texas and received middle infielder Luisangel Acuña, a 50-FV prospect who’s currently no. 56 on The Board. Via the New York Post’s Joel Sherman, the Mets will send $52.5 million of the $93 million remaining on Verlander’s pact, assuming his 2025 conditional player option vests. They’ll pay $35 million to help cover this year and next; he’s due around another $14.2 million for 2023 and $43.3 million for ’24. If he pitches 140 innings in 2024 and does not have a right arm injury that would prevent him from being on the active roster for Opening Day ’25, he’ll make $35 million, of which the Mets will pay half.
For that considerable chunk of change, the Mets are receiving 22-year-old Drew Gilbert, a center fielder currently at Double-A, and 20-year-old Ryan Clifford, a corner outfielder/first baseman currently in High-A. Gilbert and Clifford began the season as the Astros’ third- and fifth-ranked prospects, but with the graduations of Hunter Brown and Yainer Diaz and this week’s trade of Korey Lee to the White Sox in the Kendall Graveman deal, they had become the team’s top two prospects. Gilbert, a 50-FV prospect, is no. 49 on The Board and becomes the Mets’ top-ranked prospect, while Clifford, a 45-FV prospect, is now no. 8 in the Mets system. More on them below.
For the Astros, this is a reunion made necessary by injuries. The team entered the season with an all-homegrown starting five of Framber Valdez, Cristian Javier, Luis Garcia, José Urquidy, and Lance McCullers Jr., with Brown waiting in the wings. Garcia made just six starts before tearing his UCL on May 1 and undergoing Tommy John surgery in mid-May, while McCullers never was on the active roster and underwent season-ending surgery to repair a torn flexor tendon and remove a bone spur from his right forearm in mid-June. Additionally, Urquidy hasn’t pitched in the majors since April 30 — the day before Garcia’s injury — due to shoulder inflammation, though he just made his fourth and possibly final rehab start on Sunday. Rookie J.P. France and reliever-turned-starter Brandon Bielak have rounded out the rotation since early May and have pitched credibly; by ERA, the former’s 2.85 and the latter’s 3.69 rank first and third among this group, with Valdez’s 3.29 second. That said, Bielak’s 5.24 FIP is the highest of the starters besides Urquidy.
For all of those injuries, the Astros rotation ranks second in the AL in both ERA (3.81) and innings (600.1), fourth in WAR (8.7), and fifth in FIP (4.25), and the team is 60-47, half a game behind the Rangers in the division race. But particularly with Javier regressing to a 4.33 ERA and 4.31 FIP after last year’s breakout, they needed a frontline starter, and between the market’s limitations, Verlander’s connection to owner Jim Crane, and his ability to control his destiny by choosing whether or not to waive his no-trade clause, this deal felt inevitable. Via MLB Trade Rumors, by Tuesday morning numerous teams besides the Astros were known to have expressed interest in Verlander, including the Dodgers, Orioles, Braves, and Padres, though the last of those appeared to bow out by instead trading for Rich Hill.
As for the 40-year-old Verlander, a year after pulling off what might have been the best post-Tommy John surgery comeback ever, and certainly the best by any pitcher 36 or older, his top-line numbers are good but unremarkable. After missing the first month of the season due to a low-grade teres major strain, he’s pitched to a 3.15 ERA and a 3.81 FIP, with the big cause for concern the deterioration of his strikeout and walk rates. He’s dropped from last year’s 27.8% strikeout rate to 21%, making this the first time since 2015 that he hasn’t punched out more than a batter per inning. Meanwhile, he’s nearly doubled last year’s walk rate, from 4.4% to 8%, and his resultant drop in strikeout-to-walk differential is the majors’ second largest among pitchers with at least 150 innings last year and 70 this year; if you raise the latter threshold to 80 innings, he’s first:
| Name | ’22 IP | ’22 K% | ’22 BB% | ’22 K-BB% | ’23 IP | ’23 K% | ’23 BB% | ’23 K-BB% | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alek Manoah | 196.2 | 22.9% | 6.5% | 16.4% | 76.2 | 18.4% | 14.6% | 3.8% | -12.6% |
| Carlos Carrasco | 152.0 | 23.6% | 6.4% | 17.2% | 70.1 | 16.1% | 9.9% | 6.2% | -11.0% |
| Justin Verlander | 175.0 | 27.8% | 4.4% | 23.4% | 94.1 | 21.0% | 8.0% | 13.0% | -10.4% |
| Shane Bieber | 200.0 | 25.0% | 4.6% | 20.4% | 117.0 | 19.4% | 6.7% | 12.7% | -7.7% |
| Corbin Burnes | 202.0 | 30.5% | 6.4% | 24.1% | 133.1 | 25.2% | 8.5% | 16.7% | -7.4% |
| Shane McClanahan | 166.1 | 30.3% | 5.9% | 24.4% | 111.0 | 26.1% | 9.1% | 17.0% | -7.4% |
| Aaron Nola | 205.0 | 29.1% | 3.6% | 25.5% | 138.0 | 24.7% | 5.9% | 18.8% | -6.7% |
| Martín Pérez | 196.1 | 20.6% | 8.4% | 12.2% | 108.1 | 14.4% | 8.6% | 5.8% | -6.4% |
| Brady Singer | 153.1 | 24.2% | 5.6% | 18.6% | 113.2 | 19.9% | 7.6% | 12.3% | -6.3% |
| Tyler Anderson | 178.2 | 19.5% | 4.8% | 14.7% | 99.1 | 17.9% | 9.2% | 8.7% | -6.0% |
That’s four of the top seven pitchers in last year’s AL Cy Young voting (Verlander plus the third-place Manoah, sixth-place McLanahan and seventh-place Bieber), plus numbers four (Nola) and seven (Burnes) in the NL voting; at the 70-inning cutoff, AL fourth-place finisher Shohei Ohtani is 13th, and NL winner Sandy Alcantara is 14th. Pitchers, man… It’s also worth noting that two Mets rank among the top three, which hints at the underperformance of a rotation from which so much was expected.
That said, Verlander has pitched much better lately, allowing just nine runs (seven earned) in 42.1 innings over his last seven starts, good for a 1.49 ERA and 3.18 FIP, compared to a 4.50 ERA and 4.33 FIP in 52 innings over his first nine starts. His strikeout and walk rates haven’t changed much, but he’s done a much better job of avoiding hard contact in that span; his average exit velocity has dropped from 91.2 mph to 87.7 mph, his barrel rate from 7.6% to 2.6%, and his hard-hit rate from 44.3% to 32.2%. I’m using an arbitrary endpoint to make my point here, but the teams keeping tabs on Verlander had to notice the trend.
One thing that seems to be driving Verlander’s rebound is that his four-seam fastball has suddenly become much more effective against righties:
| Split | PA | H | HR | Avg | xBA | SLG | xSLG | wOBA | xwOBA | EV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Through June 20 | 63 | 16 | 5 | .267 | .281 | .583 | .538 | .370 | .363 | 95.1 |
| Since June 26 | 42 | 5 | 0 | .139 | .198 | .167 | .262 | .214 | .271 | 92.1 |
Wow. Spec-wise, I can’t pinpoint a reason for this; his average vertical release point has dropped from 7.08 feet to 6.96 (about an inch and a half), but there’s enough start-to-start variance within those numbers that I don’t think it means anything. What’s more, the drop hasn’t appreciably changed his average horizontal release point, velocity, spin rate, extension, or movement either horizontally or vertically. What has changed is the location of those fastballs:

Verlander’s fastball location against righties in his first nine starts in 2023 was similar to how he rolled in 2022. Its average height as it crossed the plate was 3.05 feet last year and 3.03 feet during those first nine starts, but it’s down to 2.79 across the last seven, a difference of about three inches. He’s throwing about half as many pitches in the upper third of the zone or higher than before (5.2% of all pitches, vs. 10.3% in that first 2023 stretch). His xSLG on those pitches has dropped from .448 to .291, and his xwOBA from .323 to .292; meanwhile, his whiff rate in that location has climbed from 24.7% to 30.3%. All of which is to say that Verlander has made the necessary adjustments to get back to pitching effectively by trading strikeouts for soft contact.
As for the prospects, Gilbert was the 28th pick of the 2022 draft out of the University of Tennessee, a fast riser who has split this season between High-A Asheville and Double-A Corpus Christi, hitting .274/.363/.458 with 12 homers and 10 steals while striking out 18.7% of the time. Listed at just 5-foot-9 and 185 pounds (but “yoked,” to use Eric Longenhagen’s description), he’s got average-or-better tools across the board, highlighted by a plus arm, plus speed, and above-average raw power. From Longehagen’s writeup from early June:
[W]hile Gilbert shows some hitterish characteristics, he is less of a bat control master than just a twitchy, short-levered player who is tough to beat because of how concise his swing is. His barrel is in the zone for a long time and he tends to find a way to put the ball in play, using his strength to spray balls past infielders. He’s making roughly an average rate of contact so far in 2023 but is also hitting the ball harder than expected. When Gilbert collapses his back side and leans on one, he’ll show you big pull-side lift, and he does most of his extra-base damage by yanking doubles down the right field line.
A plus runner, Gilbert can really go get it in center field and has a great arm. His hands and ball skills aren’t the best, and there are some scouts who think he’ll be plus in a corner rather than stick in center.
Longehagen added that Gilbert is “a spicy heel,” the type of edgy player you love to have on your team but hate to play against. As for Clifford, who lists at 6-foot-3, 200 pounds, he was an 11th-round pick last year out of the Pro5 Baseball Academy in North Carolina. He’s split his season between A-level Fayetteville and Asheville, hitting .291/.399/.520 with 18 homers and a 24% strikeout rate. At Fayetteville he put up above-average contact rates and exit velocities that almost pushed him into the Top 100, but he had some early contact issues at Asheville, though those seem to have dissipated; after striking out in 32.8% of his first 70 PA, he’s dropped that to 21.7% over his last 180 PA.
Clifford has a plus arm and plus raw power but the rest of his tools grade out as below average. Via Longehagen:
His visual evaluation as a hitter is one of passivity and a bottom-hand dominant swing that tends to be underneath fastballs in the upper half of the zone. His bat speed and physicality are for real, though, and Clifford shows the ability to move the barrel around the bottom two thirds of the zone, and he cuts his stride with two strikes. He’s a good rotational athlete whose move forward is balanced but explosive. Clifford already has plus power and, even though it looks like the cement is mostly dry on his body, he could end up with 70-grade pop through sheer physical maturity. Because he exists near the bottom of the defensive spectrum (he’s playing first base and both outfield corners) and we still have apprehension around his hit tool, we aren’t running Clifford all the way up into the Top 100… He projects as the strong side of a right field platoon.
All told, this is a pretty good haul for the Mets considering the circumstances, a continuation of their stockpiling of prospects as they dismantle the Most Expensive Team Money Could Buy. For the Astros, they’ve corrected the error they made in letting Verlander walk at the cost of two prospects, but they’re getting a pretty good pitcher to whom they’ll pay just $39 million for 2 1/3 seasons, and they’re once again positioned for another October run.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Sort of interesting to contrast the Mets’ and Cardinals’ deadline selling approaches — both teams’ area of need is 2024-and-later pitching, but while the Cards clearly targeted near-ready young pitching the Mets took the “best player available” approach and stockpiled almost exclusively position players. The Mets’ system obviously improved a lot but they seem to have a bunch of guys who are near the majors and obviously blocked by long-term major leaguers on the 2024 Mets. I have to assume there’s a second stage to this plan where guys like Gilbert are going to be turned into pitching during the offseason.
I have to assume DOLLARS will be turned into pitching in the off-season.
Prospects will be either held to maturity, or traded next away next August to bolster a theoretically contending Mets squad.
Sure, but (a) there are going to be a lot of holes to fill in that rotation and we’ve just seen how it went when Eppler tried to fill them all with buckets of Steve Cohen’s money, and (b) the Mets have noplace to put Drew Gilbert for the next however many years. I think they have to be viewing him as a future trade chip.
If Drew Gilbert is actually good, he can play in CF whenever he comes up and you slide Nimmo over to left
Now that “if” is heavily caveated
Gilbert and Nimmo would make a good tag team. I don’t know which one would be in a corner and which one would be in CF but neither one is going to be a lights out defender in CF but have a lot of range for a corner OF.
Lol huh? Mets are light in OF prospects and have a hole in LF and Marte is gone in a few years. I think Mauricio is more likely to be moved than Gilbert.
You honestly think that the corpse of Starling Marte is going to block Drew Gilbert?
Acuna at 2b, Gilbert in RF and McNeil in LF.
The only guy who’s blocked in any of this is Mauricio
Yeah if Marte has another bad year next year I can see the Mets buying Marte out of his last year of his deal in 2025.
In baseball, “best player available” is always the best way to go. You need 13 pitchers and hitters can play different positions.
That doesn’t even account for the need to stock 5 minor league levels and the ability to stash talent there which can be used to obtain talent to fill any needs that arise on the major league level.
I think there is an interesting debate about the relative value of hitters versus pitchers, though. Some think pitchers should be valued less because they break and turn bad inexplicably a lot more often. But that also creates a scarcity for them, leading others to value them more. I think every team would say they go for the best prospect available but if you pressed them on it, that global evaluation probably affects which prospect they consider to be “the best.”
Idk, the Mets are light on position players too, particularly in the outfield. They’re set at 1B, CF, SS, and catcher, but they just traded Canha and can’t seriously plan on playing Marte next year. Pretty easy to fit Gilbert into either corner, and long term CF once Nimmo ages off
Mets doing yeoman’s work to validate the prospect FV to dollar valuations.
Not really. Once you factor in the salary already paid to Verlander, they paid Houston $52M (assuming Verlander hits 140ip next year and his 2025 contract vests) + 2.5 years of Verlander for a 50 and a 45. Or they doled out a total of $84M in cash if you include the salary they already paid for Verlander.
Those prospect $ valuations are good for comparing team’s farm systems but not good for trades.
We’re never going to have precise numbers as long as we’re relying on indirect inputs instead of an active market, but it seems like they’re pretty close and I think both these deals support that.
I don’t agree, but even if these 2 deals validated $ values, literally EVERY OTHER deadline deal invalidates it. For example, FV50’s going for 2 months + playoffs of an expiring 3-win starter.
I’d say there is a difference between value and what a team is willing to pay at the deadline when supply is low and demand is high. I’ve not looked at most of the trades, but some of them looked like desperate teams that were likely giving up more wins in the future for less wins in the short term. From seeing quotes from Astros front office, it seems like this deal came into place because the Mets were trying to maximize prospect return over using supply and demand to win the surplus value part of the trade.
I think there are few players that didn’t get moved because their teams insisted on getting a return based on perceived supply/demand expectation instead of trying to find a fair trade in which both sides get close to the same amount of value except one gets it short term value and the other long term value.
Kiley agrees.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38109482/2023-mlb-trade-deadline-real-not-verlander-ohtani-mets-angels-yankees
This is a fine deal in isolation for the Mets but dealing Verlander is a much bigger blow to the Mets’ contention plans in 2024 than Scherzer. Verlander’s stuff isn’t A’s overpowering as it used to be but he does a really good job of making adjustments, as this article demonstrates. It’s not a huge leap to think he would be a 3+ win pitcher in 2024, and potentially more. They’re going to miss him next year.
Now I *do* think the Mets are going to throw a ton of money at starters this offseason. They’ve going to make a huge run at Yamamoto, who is probably going to break whatever the record is for posted players from Japan. I imagine most of Giolito, E-Rod, and Montgomery will also be in their sights. And maybe some other players too (although lately they have been reluctant to go after players with QOs). But they need three good pitchers now, two of whom have to be good enough to pitch in the playoffs. That’s a ton of work even if you just try to outbid everyone.
If the Mets contend in 2024, it’s going to be incidentally.
Lol.
Ohtani also exists, but he can’t play for everyone willing to pay him $500 million
Has he tried yet? He’s very talented, doing lots of things simultaneously that we didn’t think was possible.
True. It’s kinda surprising the Angels haven’t tried him at 3B
I’m finding it very interesting that E-Rod turned down the chance to play two months in LA and compete for a ring, to instead close out the season in Detroit and spend October watching TV. He’s opting out after this season regardless.
I think he has a strong geographic preference for being in the eastern time zone. Lucky for him there are a bunch of east coast teams that are going to be looking for pitchers this offseason…
That’s a very specific yet vague preference
Either that or they didn’t sweeten the deal enough for him to waive the NTC. Better to say what he said, though.
I get that. But it’s three months max, with the chance to play for a ring. Rather than playing on a bad team going nowhere. Seems like an extreme position.
I don’t necessarily agree. I get that baseball players are on the road a lot and so “stability” is kind of elusive but baseball players also love their routines and he’s got a family. It’s not enjoyable to get transferred to a new city for three months and have to make all those transitions.
The other thing is something is up with his personal life. Last year, he went on the restricted list for a while and there was no explanation aside from “personal matters.” I think it’s possible that those personal matters are a reason why he didn’t want to move farther away from family on the east coast.
I think this pretty likely, but, whatever his reason for wanting to stay east … how did Detroit get all the way to the finish line with LAD without knowing this? Shouldn’t they have had a backup deal lined up with Baltimore or Philadelphia or something?
Or to extend the “baseball players are people” bit — how do you decide that someone is worth hiring for $80M, but not worth taking to for ten minutes to learn at all about their personal preferences?
If he’s got something going on with his personal life that makes his family situation sticky, that makes more sense than anything.
Even more interesting that DET couldn’t find an offer better than the comp pick from one of the 20 clubs not on his no-trade list.
Tear down is bit dramatic. Scherzer has sucked this year and JV missed half the season. Robertson was on a one year deal. The other two are journeyman OFs.
Well, when you ship off your two best SPs and (somewhat) gut your bullpen, and the guys you have left are……..the guys they have left, it’s a significant downgrade in the quality of the pitching staff.
With the moves they’ve made, I don’t see a path back to contention in 2024 unless they make multiple impact signings in FA once again. Which I suppose they can do, but I think at some point Mets fans are going to find out uncle Stevie’s wallet isn’t quite as bottomless as they think. Even steve ballmer and the dodgers global council doesn’t just light millions on fire and shrug it off and do the same exact thing next year over and over
Other than Verlander and Scherzer the rest were going to be goners this offseason anyway and Verlander was the only one of the two who looked like he was really worth it.
Mets just need to replace the production that a 41-year-old Verlander and 40-year-old Scherzer would produce in ’24.
The path to contention in 24 my not be very likely, but it also isn’t that unlikely. The mets right now are about .500 in run differential. Their top 4 position players are still here for next year. If the Mets sign one of the top 5 SPs plus another one in the top 15 they’ve will be almost the same, but with Diaz back. Baty and Alvarez both with a year under their belt and a couple of the young prospects (i.e. Mauricio, Gilbert, Acuña) that are close to MLB ready. I wouldn’t necessarily expect it, but competing wouldn’t be far fetched either.
Let’s also not minimize the chance of Cohen opening his pocket to get Ohtani. He somehow got Verlander, which no one saw coming.
I know that many Mets fans might be complaining about how disappointing this season has been for them, HOWEVER it is very possible that this year’s total collapse has let seeds be sowed that in years to come will help them harvest a much more sustainable successful team.
Well that’s assuming you can trust billy eppler’s talent evaluation. Which, after his angels stint, remains to be seen to say the least. The Mets prospect list isnt 2022 orioles or 2014 astros loaded yet, theres still plenty of work to be done.
Getting Jeremiah Jackson for Dominic Leone was the steal of the trade deadline. And I’m not expecting Jackson to be a huge impact player (though it would be great if he was!). But extracting any value for Leone was a coup.
Either way, the Mets remade their club in a huge way. Pitching is temporal and fragile and volatile and can always be bought. But for an organization that hasn’t developed an MLB OF since Nimmo and Conforto, there’s now a bedrock of young OF talent to grow into roles in the next 2-3 years, and volume so that there’s downside protection against the inevitable bust rate. Acknowledging that Nimmo and Lindor (long term deals) and Baty and Alvarez most likely have spots on this team in 2025 barring something drastic, there’s now Jeff McNeil, the decision on Pete Alonso, and five top-100 prospects (Gilbert, Acuna, Clifford, Mauricio, Vientos) for the other four spots excluding pitching. That’s HUGE.
The Mets have spent so much time the last two years plugging holes. Now they have a high likelihood of having 6-7 slots locked up and filling in around the edges.
Vientos would not be a top 100 prospect and will prob get enough at bats this year where he’s not prospect eligible anymore.
Vientos is top 100 on Keith Laws list. Yes, he will lose prospect eligibility this year. But he’s too 100 right now by a credible source. (I know Law can be polarizing but I don’t think there is any debate that his list is a credible top 100 list.)