Members Only Game Thread- Phillies vs Braves
Welcome to our Open Game Thread for the Phillies-Braves Wild Card Game 3. Chat with fellow readers as we watch to see who will advance to take on the Dodgers in the NLDS! Only Members can participate, and unlike our usual game chats, your messages will be posted immediately.
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Sean Dolinar
Hello Everyone!
Seuss2004
Hi!
sadhulk
Which of these teams has a better shot against the Dodgers?
lzfreak
I'll say the Braves because I think they were just better this year. The Phillies do have the "built better for the playoffs" thing since they're so top heavy. I think the Dodgers would be heavily favored either way of course.
Honkus Wagner
JT Realmuto implies the existence of a TJ Fakemuto
Matt Martell
I appreciate this even if no one else does
JU Jazz Hands
This gambit is pop on toast
Sean Dolinar
I've got Steelers on the TV and baseball on laptop. So much PA.
Dan Szymborski
Aaron Nola feels like a bad idea, but sometimes bad ideas work out hilariously well in the playoffs.
lzfreak
Short leash presumably
Rich Hill's Fastball
How many outs do we think Nola and Holmes get combined? 15?
Jack Dorfman
Hard to see both of them pitching that well for me
Sean Dolinar
I can make that poll. At least an O/U poll. Set at 15?
JU Jazz Hands
14.5
Dan Szymborski
As I said in chat, I'm interested in seeing if they try to keep Kerr in there through second time Harper/Schwarber instead of start burning Dylans
Dan Szymborski
They give him quite a few three inning stints
Jon Becker
I thought this bar didn’t have the game on and now it’s on and now I’m here everyone!
Rich Hill's Fastball
If Kerr allows Schwarber or Harper to get on, that'd be pop on toast
Antonio Bananas
Guessing he'll walk at least one of them
Dan Szymborski
I'm going to continue to use pop on toast from chat
Jack Dorfman
Oppo schwaboo makes me feel like it'll be a big night for him
Matt Martell
Good piece of hitting ™ by Schwarber
JU Jazz Hands
Oof
Antonio Bananas
How much does the 1pm start times theyve had negate the home field advantage? Smaller and quieter crowds
Dan Szymborski
I've never actually looked at day vs. night home field
Dan Szymborski
Or attendance based.
Jack Dorfman
Certainly a different atmosphere
Jack Dorfman
that's an interesting question
Dan Szymborski
Maybe I'll add to that the to do list for Things to Write About in a Very Long Offseason
Antonio Bananas
Can this be a mailbag submission?
Dan Szymborski
If you were a doordasher and saw a note that said "Only buy the Chessmen cookies if they have the chess shapes, I don't want to eat the limited edition shapes like those stupid gardening theme they had in the spring" would you swipe by, assuming I'm a psychopath?
Doug Gray
We don't need to assume, Dan.
marz
I don’t really have anything to add right now, but hey, members only!
Rich Hill's Fastball
Not a gambling gal myself, but I would be interested in a "more liberty biberty ads than hits" line
Matt Martell
Take the over, only because we're watching Aaron Nola vs. Ray Kerr
Dan Szymborski
Oh, hey Doug! You already knew I was a psychopath because of the Boyardee note.
Doug Gray
We still love ya buddy!
Matt Martell
I think they would write your name in on election day
Davy Andrews
Hey everybody! I'm working on my Yanks-Rays preview right now, but I'll try to keep an eye on the chat as well.
Davy Andrews
Hello again, Jack.
Matt Martell
And I'm here until Davy finishes his Yanks-Rays preview — then I'll have to edit it
Phil
Dan, is this the first time you've participated in two chats in the same day? It's kind like pitching in both games of a double-header.
Dan Szymborski
One thing fun about these chats is that sometimes Sean updates the software in real time
JU Jazz Hands
I'm in Zanzibar
Jack Dorfman
Howdy Davy
Dan Szymborski
I once did eight hours of a chat in one day for one of these playoff megachats. And that was when ESPN was paying me!
Dan Szymborski
JU, the country or the club in New Jersey?
marz
Actually, I do have something. What’s it going to take to get an Atlanta fans to stop doing performative caricatures of indigenous human beings? It’s the 21st century and people shouldn’t suck this much.
Russell edited
hell freezing over. they have stuff at their park about how "it's actually totally fine and indigenous people actually like it"
Antonio Bananas
At what point does it just become a "sports" thing? Chiefs, Florida State, and Im guessing other college schools do it too. I wish it wasnt a thing, but intent has to be factored right?
Matt Martell
I edited this piece from Stephanie Apstein during the 2021 World Series at SI, and it got a lot of ppl talking about it for a bit, but then nothing happened https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/10/28/atlanta-braves-tomahawk-ch…
JU Jazz Hands
Dammit. I'm in Zanzibar. It's 3:30 AM I'm supposed to go away (to another part of the island) for the weekend with someone I met here tomorrow. If I don't go to sleep soon I'm going to be very tired tomorrow. Should I go to bed or watch baseball?
Rich Hill's Fastball
Might be the wrong crowd to pose the question too, JU!
Tyler Madsen
As a Cubs fan, I guess I root for the Phillies solely for Schwarber.
My lost son, how we miss you so.
war2d2
Our collective Large Adult Son.
Russell
aaron nola in a playoff game is a wild time
JU Jazz Hands
Or the right one
beanbong
If Nola walks Harris, they should probably pull him
Ben Clemens
wait until you hear what happened
Russell
looks like they keep him in
beanbong
Mattingly should let him die out there. none of that whimpy reliever BS
Dan Szymborski
If you see Bert Lahr's Christopher Columbus Lay's commercial, the Tomahawk Chop chant seems tame by comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R139Gf-Xf4
Benny The Jet
That was quick
JU Jazz Hands
Didn't walk him
Jack Dorfman
Well…
bosoxforlife
Nola feels like a bad idea
Rich Hill's Fastball
Boom
beanbong
that pitch was in the dirt lol
Davy Andrews
Well this was fun.
cashgod27
Zach Wheeler seems like he might've been a better choice to start the game
Russell
hell, i'd take zack on two hours of rest
Ben Clemens
huge shout out to the announcers for just shutting up and letting the crowd go nuts
Dan Szymborski
Aaron Nola's pitching like someone who knows he's like 30 minutes away from having diarrhea and he needs to get out of the game quickly
lzfreak
I don't think 3 will be enough tonight. But it's a good start
jjryan6
Grant Holmes will give up some, but how many?
Jack Dorfman
Nola' s pitching like he accidentally ate some pop on toast
jdbolick
That pitch was two inches below the zone. That's a gutsy swing after two straight walks.
mockcarr
Wasn’t even a strike
Meg Rowley
If the Phils lose, can Kruk just rove and be in a DS booth?
Dan Szymborski
They showed Dubon making a face like I do when I hear about free tacos
mockcarr
Nola may already have tickets to NOLA
beanbong
that pitch was absolutely tipped
Matt Martell
Hi Meg!
Russell
These chats are absolutely fantastic y'all, a tremendous perk to being a member!
Meg Rowley
Hi Matt!
Davy Andrews
Hello, Meg!
Dan Szymborski
It's funny how this seems to be the most FG writer-dense chat, more than the ones actually designed to be
Meg Rowley
Hi Davy!
Rich Hill's Fastball
As a Dodgers fan (yeah, yeah) I'm just rooting for this to stay close so the winner exhausts their pen.
Meg Rowley
I figured I'd pop in and say hi since I wasn't able to yesterday.
cashgod27 edited
What do you even do here if you're Mattingly? Too early to put in Wheeler, you can't keep Nola in, non-Duran pen stinks.
mockcarr
Chopped meat vs tomahawk chop. No easy answer..,
Doug Gray
Philly has some GREAT pizza. Easy choice.
mockcarr
I prefer the Phillies’ pretzel game
Anonymous Member #46
Anyone else get a little bit sad watching end-stage Aaron Nola?
onewil
Yes. He’s done well with what he has and sometimes it’s still enough. Not today tho…
Davy Andrews
No, 46, I find the inevitable decay that awaits us all quite enjoyable.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Feature idea @Sean, reaction flags! Such as an "!!" for Anonymous' message
Sean Dolinar
Definitely a good idea.
Davy Andrews
I love that Harris is just on the iPad watching himself rock that pitch again.
Ben Clemens
Davy, I saw an interview with Roger Federer where they asked if he watched film of his matches. He said 'Yes I do, but to be honest, it's mainly for my own enjoyment.' Really stuck with me
lzfreak
Justin Morneau on Twins broadcasts often talks about how before a game/AB he'd watch video of himself hitting homeruns to identify what he was doing mechanically well. Apparently teammates made fun of him for it a lot.
JU Jazz Hands
Yeah. They should change the [Enter] as submit function.
Sean Dolinar
We can possibly change that, but Enter to submit and shift + enter for a new line is somewhat standard. Maybe we can make that an option.
JU Jazz Hands
Are people on mobile devices really using shift+enter?
How many people are on mobile vs computer?
onewil
This is such an odd series. Neither team feels “good” in the old playoff sense.
And then I remember that’s what wildcards are!
Russell
I really don't get how the braves won 94 games
Antonio Bananas
My brother is in his lucky chair with his lucky hat ans 2 backup hats. So if the Braves lose, it's his fault.
Dan Szymborski
I'm so happy that there's not a Line of Fire commercial every single break
Rich Hill's Fastball
"I'm a little teapot, short and stout" for Stott is great
Jack Dorfman
If there's such thing as a wipeout cutter this might be it
shh31
Is there hope still that Kruk says "slutter"?
Russell
what do y'all think: is nola coming back out for round two?
Rich Hill's Fastball
No one was even warming in the first, so yes
mockcarr
I was gonna say it chews scenery
bosoxforlife
Surprised to see Sosa. He looked like he came up lame in Game 1
Antonio Bananas
Do they make Liberty Biberty pinatas?
Meg Rowley
WHY DOES IT HAVE TEETH
Davy Andrews
Meg, your comment says it's awaiting review, and I wonder who gets to review it.
Sean Dolinar
I do.
Meg Rowley
It didn't like that I was yelling
Meg Rowley
but also, why does it have teeth!?
Dan Szymborski
TESTING THE YELLING
Rich Hill's Fastball
I appreciate MH2 just admitting "I was trying to homer there" haha
Meg Rowley
It doesn't have a digestive system, does it? Why does it need to chew?
Rich Hill's Fastball
It eats up airtime, Meg!
Biscuit
It’s giving Sonic The Hedgehog teeth
Jack Dorfman
thankfully I don't think most mascots have teeth right?
Anonymous Member #46
which would be most horrifying with teeth
Russell
i mean, it has to be the phanatic, right?
Anonymous Member #46
eww yep
Davy Andrews
Hi Sean!
Jack Dorfman
Gritty and the Phanatic don't
Jonathan Smith
How do we think Votto has been in this “on the field” role?
Davy Andrews
I've been digging it.
Jack Dorfman
Yeah I've liked Votto
Davy Andrews
Does your comment have to await review if you talk about BUTTS? (Just checking.)
Jon Becker
Extremely uncertain as to why Mattingly has a low leverage lefty up if not for Smith, this is perplexing
Rich Hill's Fastball
Mattingly making perplexing pitching decisions? More at 11.
beanbong
5/6 balls in play off of Nola have been hard hit
Davy Andrews
Hi, Jon!
Davy Andrews
I'm going to say hi to everyone.
lzfreak
Once the Phillies season is over, remember they have the incredibly awkward dynamic of Don Mattingly's son deciding if his dad should keep his job
Biscuit
Did Ryan Dempster pioneer the glove shake mid windup?
Matt Martell
Meg saw the commercial and wondered why the mascot had teeth. I saw it and started wondering how Liberty got from a commercial of a struggling actor flubbing his lines and saying "Liberty Biberty" to now having a Biberty mascot.
marz admin edited
They too seem to be doing a weird version of throwing **** at the wall. They’ve got that whole other set of ads with the cheesy 80s cop and the emu. Is this maybe just the game in advertising these days? They’re trying to find something that’ll go viral and they got some focus group data that a mascot from Critters 2: The Main Course tested well.
mockcarr
Don Smith looks a lot sadder than he actually is
Jonathan Smith
Man, what a weird season for Nola..
Jon Becker
Liberty Biberty? Jason Benetti’s interviewee?
mockcarr
Well, I guess Dom doesn’t exist as a name and I’ve spent no time in New Jersey
Biscuit
The phanatic but with the mouth of a sea lamprey
Anonymous Member #46
I am never recovering from this visual
Matt Martell
I'm fascinated by the decision to start Nola
Matt Martell
If Wheeler is available tonight, why didn't the Phillies just start him?
Russell
well why would you not want 1.2 high-quality innings from prime aaron nola?
Benny The Jet
It just kinda felt like this was the inevitable conclusion to starting Nola- trailing by multiple runs before your best pitchers even get a chance to throw, and still having to go to the pen early
mockcarr
Great, now there’s ANOTHER word in that stupid Liberty song…
Matt Martell
They had to have known Nola wouldn't last line. Baffling
Jon Becker
Mattingly’s reasoning was that they think Wheeler profiles better out of the bullpen, which may well be true, but it’s gonna matter a helluva lot less down three than tied
Rich Hill's Fastball
Was there a case to start someone like Bowlan? Feels like a much likelier clean 6 outs.
Benny The Jet
If I'm Philly, I want Wheeler and Duran getting the maximum # of outs possible, then praying that your line up gives you enough that you feel comfortable piecing together the end of the game
Matt Martell
Yes, Wheeler profiles better as a reliever than Nola, but he also profiles as a better starter
wiguy94
Do you think the Phillies considered Mayza opening for Nola? Feel like it would have made plenty of sense with the top of the Braves order being quite LHH heavy.
Dan Szymborski
Yeah, my feeling was that if they were only going to use Wheeling for an inning or two, it makes sense to strategize where you deploy him. If you're willing to use him for four innings, I think you just start him
lzfreak
Why not start Duran, have him go 2, then Wheeler?
Rich Hill's Fastball
Heck, why not start 2008 Joe Blanton?
Doug Gray
Do….. do you have a time machine and you aren't sharing it with the rest of us?
Rich Hill's Fastball
I used it to introduce Liberty Biberty into this timeline
Doug Gray
Oh no
Meg Rowley
Has Bowlan pitched at all this series?
wiguy94
No but he warmed up multiple times in game 1
Antonio Bananas
There should be a limit on political TV ads. Like only within 4 weeks of an election. Or none
Meg Rowley
We started getting them in AZ in July lol.
Russell edited
Isn't bowlan out with a groin injury?
edit: i am wrong
Jon Becker
I gotta say, the incessant promoting makes me want to watch The Traitors even less than I did, which was zero
Hazmat Corntail
My only guess is that they thought Nola’s been good enough of late that they could get at least once through the order with him.
Dan Szymborski
Well that was fun
Benny The Jet
I can't believe I am saying this, but I miss the days of Big Bang Theory promos
Antonio Bananas
Phillies IF doesnt make that play.
Jonathan Smith
Was just thinking this. That was an incredible play.
Antonio Bananas
I dont remember which jabroni wrote the series preview for this, but they didnt mention defense at all. Its been a story all series though.
Jon Becker
Check this pun out: Dubie Thursday
mockcarr
The brothers would be proud
Rich Hill's Fastball
Mauricio Dubon is fantastic
mr. burrito
As a Dodgers fanatic, I'm thrilled with the Harris homer. Respectfully, of course.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Interesting. I'm a Dodgers fan and I'd much rather face Philly!
mr. burrito
Yeah, I'm probably misremembering the season. The Braves probably smoked us. But I'm thinking that, after Sale, the Braves starters aren't particularly scary…
Jon Becker
Sean, we need to get upvotes in here so my humor can be feted
Sean Dolinar
I'm leaning toward emoji reacts or something. So you can get 😂 instead.
mockcarr
Maybe this is Ray Kerr’s moment before he goes back to groundskeeping
bosoxforlife
Please don't tell me that just anybody can play 1st. Olsen is as valuable a defender as there is on the team.
lzfreak
Do we know if first base defense ages well? I love the idea of Matt Olson being an elite defender into his 40s
Jack Dorfman
Looked like Ray Kerr said he wants to keep going as he walked into the dugout, love that
Davy Andrews
Goldy's defense is still good.
Benny The Jet
Does Kerr get Schwarber and Harper in the 4th now?
Rich Hill's Fastball
He's got to
bosoxforlife
Ray Kerr goes 5 and gets the win.
Dan Szymborski
The warning that it's from the *commissioner* of baseball really makes me want to broadcast the transmission without expressed written consent
mockcarr
That guy just implies EVERYTHING
JU Jazz Hands
THIS Dodger fan thinks the Phillies are a slightly bigger risk than Atlanta. Because pitching
Dan Szymborski
I love how TV show commercials tend to discourage me from watching the advertised TV show
Dan Szymborski
I remember when Arrested Development debut way back. The commercials for it were *awful* and made it seem like a schlocky sitcom.
Dan Szymborski
I didn't watch it until several episodes in and only then by accident
Antonio Bananas
Braves defense makes that play.
lzfreak
Oh hey another defensive play not made by Philadelphia
Davy Andrews
In his defense, they hit the ball RIGHT at him. Must be scary.
Dan Szymborski
It's been awhile since Mattingly has managed; I hope he's not saving Wheeler so he can be fresh for Game 4…
Jay Jaffe
Hey hey, party people!
bosoxforlife
Turner is turning into Story, heaven forbid.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Hi Jay!
Dan Szymborski
yo jay
Davy Andrews
Hi, Jay!
mr. burrito
So, if Mattingly Jr. has to whack Mattingly Sr., does that f-up Thanksgiving?
lzfreak
Oh Jay is here! I was just about to ask the chat if we think Acuna is on a Hall of Fame trajectory? Feels like it could go either way at this point, and health could be the most important factor
bosoxforlife
Dubon gets my vote for most underrated player. He is just so valuable.
Jonathan Smith
Did the Phillies need Nola at all tonight? Not completely tracking their bullpen usage minus Painter and Duran
jonmberra
Zack Wheeler's gray beard makes me feel very old.
Jay Jaffe
These two pitching staffs feel so thin I could read a newspaper through them
Jack Dorfman
What an image
Matt Martell
Haven't we as a society progressed beyond the need to make a Scrooge movie starring Johnny Depp in 2026?
Davy Andrews
Haven't we progressed past the need for Johnny Depp at all?
Jay Jaffe
Acuña got a great start to a HOF trajectory but he's totaled 5.0 bWAR since his MVP season — that's 3 years worth. He's still got a decent shot if he can get back on track but his bat has rarely been special lately, his defense has deteriorated, and he can't stay on the field.
Benny The Jet
I'm sorry but the rationale being that "Wheeler is a better relief option than Nola" is still so confounding to me!
"Why are you eating garbage?"
"Because I thought food would be a better dessert than garbage."
jonmberra
I think the problem is they didn't really have any good options if Wheeler can't throw 5 innings.
lzfreak
I'll be honest I had never heard of Ray Kerr before today. And I follow baseball very closely. Could probably name 500-600 current major league players. But not him
JU Jazz Hands
Samsies
Jay Jaffe
I had barely heard of Kerr either.
Jay Jaffe
One thing about covering Yankees-Red Sox WCS with those 8 pm games is that you really don't get to watch much of any of the other series, particularly not with sound because you're just catching glimpses of it during stray moments.
Davy Andrews
If there's one player you could read a newspaper through, it's Kerr.
Jay Jaffe
he's a Giacometti sculptue on the mound
Jack Dorfman
Ray Kerr may just be Cristopher Sanchez
Rich Hill's Fastball
Halloween isn't for 30 days, Jack!
Jack Dorfman
Haha good point
bosoxforlife
As an expert at the obvious. I don't think Weiss expected to get 3 1/3 from Kerr.
shh31
Do we think the booth makes a Kenny Powers reference?
Hazmat Corntail
The only good progressive commercial these days is the one where she warns college kids about how they’ll have to decide what to have every night for dinner for the rest of their lives
lzfreak
Fun play there by Holmes
Jon Becker
That play was sick
Jay Jaffe
Grant Holmes arriving late because he spent a million dollars on two chicks at the same time.
Jack Dorfman
that fan new exactly how to make an out call
lzfreak
Does that go down as 1-1-1-1-3?
Rich Hill's Fastball
We need that laugh react
Davy Andrews
I was waiting for Holmes to throw up his hands because the ball got lost inside his hair.
ncphl
Bohm being slow has helped the Braves twice tonight
Matt Martell
I need to assign Baumann a mailbag question about a hypothetical rule for when a ball gets lost in a player's hair
mockcarr
His hair looks like it’s attached to his hat
Matt Martell
So someone step up and submit one!
bosoxforlife
My brother's late wife's sister is a hairdresser in Conway, SC. I wonder if she did Holmes hair when he was in high school?
jonmberra
I know that game was much closer but this feels like 2011 all over again for the Phillies. I hope it goes differently
lzfreak
How are we still talking about "rest vs rust" on these broadcasts? Like why would you want to have to play an entire extra series where you can lose?
beanbong
the discourse about whether it's good to play in a wildcard series is infuriatingly stupid
Jay Jaffe
<broad gesture at everything>
Davy Andrews
Hear, hear. But just to be clear, I'm not deleting that paragraph from my Rays-Yanks preview.
lzfreak
Both those teams will be pretty rested
mockcarr
This isn’t the Wheeler I remember from Taxi
beanbong
if you win, is the momentum worth not being able to rest your pitchers? Maybe, probably not, but you can also lose
Jay Jaffe
welp
Antonio Bananas
Joey "The Braves aren't going to score any more runs" Votto
Rich Hill's Fastball
Uh oh
lzfreak
This might not be an electric finish
Meg Rowley
I think if Ozzie Albies is hitting dongs against you in 2026, might not be your series…
Phil
Listening to the Atlanta radio broadcast. They are a bit worked up. "Ascend into the heavens. . ."
Doug Gray
This one feels like it's over
Jack Dorfman
is this what a window slamming shut sounds like?
Davy Andrews
Surely you know what that sounds like.
Jack Dorfman
I'm usually fairly gentle with my windows
Anonymous Member #46
he's more of a Dorfman than a window guy
beanbong
Votto really should give up on doing Romo predictions during the broadcast
Jay Jaffe
Ozzie Albies may be only four feet tall but he can hit the ball a long way once in awhile.
Doug Gray
He hit that 104.75 Albies (if he were actually four feet tall)
onewil
Ouch…
Rich Hill's Fastball
Nice swing from Ounce-Pound
Rich Hill's Fastball
OZ LB, for those raising their eyebrows
Antonio Bananas
Harris catches that
Jay Jaffe
I'll not have you impugn the Phillies defense!
<checks notes>
Ok, I'll allow it.
Antonio Bananas
Im going to harp on it until Dan apologizes for not covering defense at all in the series preview
Jack Dorfman
Umpire cam on these homers during WC has been great
Hazmat Corntail
Now I miss How Many Altuves
Davy Andrews
I've always wondered what will happen to Albies' fish if he ever gets traded.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Isn't he finally a free agent in a month?
beanbong
their own wing in the Georgia Aquarium
whatmonster
Braves have a 7m option for next year
beanbong
option's cheap, they'll pick it up
Dan Szymborski
A dedicated moving truck with full garbage cans full of water?
danodea
Just read the Ray Kerr wiki page and wow what a story he's got
Meg Rowley
It's really amazing – night of that dude's life.
beanbong
there's already a paragraph for this start, those editors are on the ball
Phil
I googled "aquarium movers." Apparently there's a company called Tank Me Later LLC. Of course.
Jack Dorfman
Do they list the Rockies as a part owner?
Rich Hill's Fastball
I wonder what positions his fish would play on the diamond? Potential mailbag or offseason EW question
Meg Rowley
Oooooo, other than them being labeled as vaguely "exotic," do we know what sort of fish?
beanbong
he's got a youtube channel dedicated to the fish: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRj8Cp2HHjXrqRIdy6SvYw/vid…
Matt Martell
How am I just learning about this now?!
Rich Hill's Fastball
He lists a lot in here too: https://richeisenshow.com/read/exotic-fish-expert-braves-2b-…
Jack Dorfman
Saltwater?
Jack Dorfman
Or freshwater not actually sure
Meg Rowley
"Fish."
Jack Dorfman
Confident in that at least
mr. burrito
Can I repeal my opinion that I want the Braves to play the Dogs? Forgot about the tomahawk chop crap.
Meg Rowley
The lack of frizz on Grant Holmes' curls is so impressive to me.
mr. burrito
I Holmes related to Weird Al?
Jonathan Vander Lugt
Anyone else watching the CBS reality lineup on a different screen?
Meg Rowley
Have Thursday Night Football on the small TV, and boy is it a throwback bad Thursday game…
Jonathan Vander Lugt
I forgot there’s football too! We’re TV rich tonight it seems
Dan Szymborski
I was just thinking of Weird Al too
danodea
That Realmuto contract is lookin pretty bad
Benny The Jet
Man the bottom of this Phillies line up is brutal
bosoxforlife
That might have been the Phillies last gasp.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Before they enter Ozzie's fish tank?
Meg Rowley
Alright, time for dinner. Back later!
Phil
It's going to take a lot of Schwarber and Harper solo home runs to pull this one out. A third hitter would be helpful
Dan Szymborski
I don't mind the Traitors commercials as much as the Line of Fire commercials since you don't hear the same song over and over again
bosoxforlife
With Ohtani leaving stage left, a case could be made for Harris to be second to PCA in the MVP voting.
Jay Jaffe
Elly De La Cruz was 2 wins better and went 30-30, he's a much more plausible runner-up to PCA than Harris
Anonymous Member #46
Grant Holmes looks so much like Rod Beck from the back, and that makes me nostalgic.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Where do you think Miz finishes in MVP voting?
lzfreak
I'd put him behind Turang but I'm biased against pitchers for mvp in most circumstances
bosoxforlife
I forgot the Reds were still in the league.
Doug Gray
Some days I wish they weren't. But then I remember that I have bills to pay.
Rich Hill's Fastball
There's the Kenny Powers!
ncphl edited
The O/U is final, at 12 combined outs from Holmes and Nola
Sean Dolinar
This was closer than I thought. 68.18% of those who responded to the poll were right!
Seuss2004
This game is really the Phils philsing as hard as they can phils.
Jack Dorfman
Anticlimactic double
Jonathan Vander Lugt
I feel like Schwarber had a shot at home if he’s really booking it? Idk feel like they need the run there
Benny The Jet
Feels like you need these 2 here to have a chance
lzfreak
Not a ton of urgency from Schwarber on the bases
Anon21
Dylan Dodd to face those two looking like a missed opportunity
Doug Gray
Kyle Schwarber was running the bases there like I was running after knee surgery.
whatmonster
Does anyone else think the sound mixing is off? Seems like the stadium noise and organ are so loud you can’t hear the commentary
Jonathan Vander Lugt
Bohm rolling over one to kill the rally feels apropos
bosoxforlife
I certainly expected to see Dodd.
Jack Dorfman
Haven't heard from Juicy Drop Pop in a while
bosoxforlife
I hope the screen unfreezes before the game starts again.
cyanocitta
I realize that the sequencing is unlikely to be in alignment, but if we're moving on to a Braves-Dodgers NLDS, who would you rather have as a SP: Sale or Yamamoto? I would say the latter, but it could be a generally fun series for fans who enjoy ace-watching.
beanbong
Sale's got the better numbers since Yamamoto came over, but the 2 CGs in the playoffs last year were crazy. I'm biased but give me Sale and the Ks
cyanocitta
To me, Sale has raw dominance (better in topline stats this season) and Yamamoto has consistency (most QS in MLB). I like Yamamoto, because he gives you the best distributed probability of a G1 W. I can understand the other viewpoint, though
Rich Hill's Fastball
Not to beat a dead horse but…how do you not start Wheeler?!
danodea
When you have the opportunity to start a guy with one of the highest HR/9 in the league in a win or go home game, you simply have to take it
cyanocitta
Mattingly implied that he favored Nola's rest over Wheeler's potential output. I understand that rationale, but you would think that they could have skipped a rest day or two in the past month to ensure that the timing was aligned
danodea
They had him lined up to start game 1, but then they had to run him out in game 162 cause they failed to lock a playoff spot before that. Oops!
danodea
The rest thing is crazy to me though. Did he not watch Yamamoto in the World Series last year?? This is the playoffs, dawg, there is no tomorrow. Leave it all out there.
cyanocitta
Exactly, Dan! Give him a 70- or 80-pitch limit and the start
Benny The Jet
I'd argue neither will even be the best pitcher in the series
lzfreak
Ray Kerr >>
Rich Hill's Fastball
Justin Wrobleski!
cyanocitta
Mr. Regression to the FIP
bosoxforlife
Wheeler throwing 70 pitches , at least, makes the Phillies decision to start Nola very suspect.
ncphl
Ray Kerr's name is wasted on a pitcher
Antonio Bananas
When I was a kid I didnt think Kruk was an actual major leaguer. I thought he was an actor like the mean guy in Rookie of the Year. Still not sure
Phil edited
The Wheeler situation shows what a huge disadvantage it is to be in a race that comes down to the last day.
Jay Jaffe
that's part of the penalty of getting in via the Wild Card. You may not be able to set up your pitching and you have almost no margin for error.
Phil
I just realized you can edit your typos now! Don't think Sean is here but someone please praise him for that.
Sean Dolinar
Oh I'm here! I'm just working on mobile app integration. And making sure everything else is working.
Anonymous Member #46
Why would you throw Chris Sale in a four-run game here?!
Antonio Bananas
If Schwarber/Harper come up this inning, it'd be huge. But next inning? I dont know why. Maybe just 15 pitches?
bosoxforlife
I just knew Sale would play a role.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Sean did an incredible job with this
whatmonster
Sale is throwing up 4 runs with 8 outs to get…?
bosoxforlife
This is such an added bonus. I can't thank everyone involved enough.
Dan Szymborski
I dunno how you would justify Sale unless the game was closer maybe even then.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Dodger fan here: thank you, Mr. Weiss, for foolishly warming Sale!
cyanocitta
You have to play the long game if you're the Braves. Assume that you don't need Sale today, and keep him ready for the Dodgers. Long way to go, esp on the NL side
Dan Szymborski
Right now, you'd just burn him to be a mopup. I don't like the idea. It's too cute
lzfreak
Are they Alcantara-ing Sale?
bosoxforlife
Except that it is not his throw day.
Jack Dorfman
Gotta have other arms they trust besides Sale
cyanocitta
Is there a remote chance that Sale in the bullpen is a decoy? Has he done his throwing session yet today?
whatmonster
I certainly hope this is just weird 3D chess and not a real plan
Antonio Bananas
If Weiss sees ShwArper as such a threat, just pitch Iglesias?
lzfreak
I feel like the Braves could really use Strider and Schwellenbach
bosoxforlife
Ya' think.
beanbong
even if they don't want Lee, which is probably wise, you've got Suter and Dodd who haven't thrown this series. If 2 reach, you go to Iggy
Jonathan Vander Lugt
Great play by Bowlan there
beanbong
really important to scratch a couple across here with the top of the lineup agaisnt Bowlan, if only to keep Sale in the pen
Anonymous Member #46
Ask and you shall receive.
beanbong
hit it in the pen too so you could see Dodd warming. what a guy
whatmonster
Sit down, Sale
Benny The Jet
That'll do it
Seuss2004
The guy who kept giving up hrs so frequently that he was effectively shelved, gave up a hr. I, for one, am shocked.
Seuss2004
But seriously, why not Duran and McFarlane? There is nothing to lose.
cyanocitta
It's an interesting question
Jack Dorfman
Dubon tried something there
Benny The Jet
I don't see how Mattingly can survive this game
lzfreak
Mattingly manager or Mattingly general manager?
Anonymous Member #46
Do you prefer "Gone-y Baseball" or "Done-y Baseball"?
Matt Martell
I can't wait for the Phillies to come back here and have the Dubón kicked ball be the turning point
Jack Dorfman
that'd be fantastic
lzfreak
Not great by Acuna there
McColin
Does the wind swirl extra in RF there?
Rich Hill's Fastball
Does Harris catch that? /s
bosoxforlife
In his hip pocket.
Antonio Bananas
Yes
lzfreak
Sale up again
whatmonster
Is this really necessary
Antonio Bananas
Wtf why
Dan Szymborski
Needlessly cute
lzfreak
This is a bit ridiculous
Matt Martell
this makes no sense
Benny The Jet
Why
Rich Hill's Fastball
No way
whatmonster
There is nobody else who can get 4 outs before giving up 4 runs???
bosoxforlife
Memories of 2018.
danodea
Here he comes! For some reason!!
McColin
I’d think they want him for Saturday more than now
lzfreak
I do love watching Sale pitch but come on
Matt Martell
Up four with two out, nobody on in the eighth inning — why?
Phil
One of many problems with this is the 3-batter minimum. If Sale doesn't get him he could throw many more pitches than is probably planned.
Anonymous Member #46
so dumb
Seuss2004
Dodgers day thankx.
whatmonster
I guess the idea is this just pushes his start from game 2 to game 3 of the DS? But, maybe even game 4?
Antonio Bananas
Does this do anything at all to the psyche of the other bullpen arms?
Jon Becker
Bringing Sale in here is cool as hell and also wildly unnecessary
Phil
Did he just insist, Scherzer-style? And no one can say no?
whatmonster
haha might be that actually
Jay Jaffe
Sale? Wow that's a choice
Jon Becker
I would think it’s for the one out/three hitters but what if that takes 20 pitches? I would’ve just left Dodd in for Harper and gone to Raisel after
whatmonster
Well, he looks sharp at least
beanbong
maybe he's just in to face Harper? Would make more sense, he just has to get him out
Matt Martell
That's poor by Harper
danodea
Not great, Bryce
bosoxforlife
If Harper was awake Sale would have had to throw more pitches.
Jon Becker
All right Chris great work, your day should be done now
Seuss2004
Now I'M the one saying, "BOOOO-urns"
Matt Martell
Just watched Spencer Jones reach off Crochet that way last night. I'm sure Harper not running will go over well in Philly
danodea
He didn't even run hard when he did get goin lol
Rich Hill's Fastball
The pitching decisions this game have been baffling
Seuss2004
I mean if this were the Nationals, Phillies would have like a 60% win probability down 4 with 3 outs to go.
Antonio Bananas
Does Weiss know that if Sale starts game 2 of the LDS then he can also start game 5?
Solitaire
Can someone explain to me Brandon Marsh's hair? Does he fill it with some kind of slime before each game? I have long hair, my head sweats plenty when I exercise, my hair has never looked like his
danodea
He pours water all over it constantly
Matt Martell
Jake Mintz wrote about it back in 2022! https://www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/why-brandon-marshs-wet…
Rich Hill's Fastball
I believe Marsh just dumps water on himself
lzfreak
Does he do this when it's cold out too? Sounds miserable in a cold weather October game
Solitaire
Well, I guess I'm pleased it's just dumb not gross
Anon21
I don’t love using Sale for the 9th, if that’s the plan. When you ask guys to do stuff they don’t normally do, it’s always a risk. But Iglesias for a third day in a row is also risky.
lzfreak
If Sale somehow blows this there will be a narrative
Antonio Bananas
Even if he doesnt, if he cant pitch until game 3 thats a story. If he gets hit hard in game 2 thats a story.
bosoxforlife
Grady Little would get off the hook.
Antonio Bananas
Just dumb
Benny The Jet
The managerial decision making in this series has been… interesting. You can't say that often anymore with the homogenized modern strategy.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Don Mattingly brings the juice!
bosoxforlife
Sale was throwing a sweeper before anyone knew what a sweeper was.
Dan Szymborski
And that is that
Jack Dorfman
Sale didn't need many pitches
Dan Szymborski
cyall for the next ones
danodea
Can't believe we gotta wait til Saturday for more baseball
Phil
Thanks for doing this, guys.
Rich Hill's Fastball
Been a pleasure, everyone
Jack Dorfman
excited for the DS!
Jack Dorfman
Great to watch with y'all
Davy Andrews
See you everybody!
Sean Dolinar
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