Missed Time and the Hall of Fame, Part 2
Mike Trout is going to be fine. Yes, for all kinds of reasons it would be a complete and total bummer if the 2020 season never gets started due to the the current pandemic, but Trout would hardly be the first elite player in his prime to miss at least a full year due to reasons far beyond his control. Ted Williams, Willie Mays, and Joe DiMaggio were just a few of the dozens of major leaguers who lost entire seasons due to military service, but given their elite performances throughout their careers, their absences didn’t cost them when they became eligible for election to the Hall of Fame.
Which isn’t to say that missing a full season, or even a significant chunk of one, in such fashion comes without cost. For the 28-year-old Trout, who already ranks fifth among center fielders in JAWS, major milestones could be at stake, though it’s far too early to suggest that a lost season will cost him a shot at 600 homers (as service in World War II and the Korean War did Williams) or even 700 (as the Korean War did Mays), or 3,000 hits, or whatever. For other players whose chances to reach Cooperstown are less secure, however, the loss of even a partial year could make a difference — at least temporarily — particularly if it leaves them short of certain plateaus.
That’s one of the take-home messages from my previous piece, which looked at the ways that time lost to military service during World War II and Korea, or to strikes in the 1981, ’94 and/or ’95 seasons, delayed or derailed certain players. Aided by additional chances in front of the voters, both with longer eligibility windows on BBWAA ballots and more frequent appearances on those of the Veterans Committee, it appears that the vast majority of borderline candidates who lost time to wars are in, leaving only a small handful of what-ifs. On the other hand, players who missed time due to strikes and fell short of notable hit and homer plateaus — not just 3,000 of the former or 500 of the latter, but also 2,000 or 2,500 hits, and 400 homers — have seen their chances take a hit. The much-derided 2019 election of Harold Baines, who fell short of 3,000 hits while missing time in all of the aforementioned strikes, suggests that voters have begun reckoning with that era’s impact on career totals, not that doing so will automatically make for strong selections; both Baines and Fred McGriff, who missed time in 1994-95, finished with 493 home runs, and could benefit similarly on the 2022 Today’s Game Era Committee ballot, are well below the JAWS standards at their positions.
As we look to the current landscape to see which players might be most vulnerable to a lost season, we should keep those lessons in mind. Younger players such as Trout, Mookie Betts, and Francisco Lindor have plenty of time to make up the lost ground, not that losing a prime season — if we’re talking the nuclear option here, which may be premature — would help. It’s the older guys who are running out of chances that have the real concerns. Here I’ll take a spin through the position players, working alphabetically, with the pitchers to come tomorrow. All WAR totals refer to the Baseball-Reference version.
José Altuve
The youngest player here — he doesn’t turn 30 until May 6 — Altuve already owns three batting titles and is more than halfway to 3,000 hits (he has 1,568). With Ian Kinsler retired, Dustin Pedroia likely done, and Robinson Canó probably ruled out due to his PED suspension, the pint-sized Astro is the only active second baseman with an apparent path to election. He’s still got a ways to go on the advanced stat front (35.8 JAWS, 21.2 points below the standard), and the fact that he hasn’t cleared 5.0 WAR since 2017 due to injuries that have limited him to just 261 games over the past two seasons rates as a concern, all the more so if he misses a year, given the tendency of second basemen to peak early. If there’s good news for Altuve, it’s that the current outage is deflecting attention away from the Astros’ sign-stealing scandal and his weird tattoo story.
Miguel Cabrera
With 2,815 hits, 477 career homers, and the number 10 ranking in JAWS among first basemen (69.5/44.8/57.2, above the standards across the board), Miggy is pretty much a lock for Cooperstown even given his recent struggles. He’s signed through 2023, with vesting options for ’24 and ’25, and while his recent years have been an injury-marred slog (.270/.345/.404 with 31 homers and just 304 games played from 2017-19), he’ll still have plenty of time to join Mays, Hank Aaron, Eddie Murray, Rafael Palmeiro, and Albert Pujols as the only players to reach 3,000 hits and 500 homers. Just don’t bet on 600 dingers.
Josh Donaldson
In the recent update to Baseball-Reference’s version of WAR, Donaldson took the biggest hit among active players, losing 3.8 WAR due to the way Defensive Runs Saved now credits infield shifts to teams rather than individuals. Thus, his career/peak/JAWS line slipped from 44.8/43.8/44.3 to 41.0/40.5/40.8, and where he was 0.8 WAR above the peak standard among third basemen, he’s now 2.6 below. The good news is that he does have a 1.5-WAR season counting as part of his peak score, something that he should easily be able to improve upon.
JAWS is one problem for the 34-year-old Donaldson, who just signed a four-year-plus-option deal with the Twins, but it’s not the only one. A late bloomer due to his conversion from catching, he played just 89 major league games before his age-27 season, and additionally lost nearly a year’s worth of playing time due to injuries in 2017-18. Thus, he’s just over halfway to 2,000 hits (he has 1,048), has made just three All-Star teams and has yet to win a Gold Glove, though his MVP award is a bigger deal than that. If he’s to have a serious shot at Cooperstown, and if he doesn’t get to play at all this year, he’d need to average 159 hits — a total he last reached in 2016 — from ages 35-40 just to get to 2,000 hits. As I’ve noted several times in this space, no player from the post-1960 expansion era with fewer than 2,000 hits has been elected by either the writers or the small committees.
Yadier Molina
With nine All-Star appearances, nine Gold Gloves, a reputation as the era’s best defender, and a prominent role on three pennant winners and two champions, the 37-year-old Molina is widely viewed as a future Hall of Famer, and score of 162 on the Bill James Hall of Fame Monitor, which succinctly summarizes all of those credentials, backs that notion. He lags in the B-Ref version of WAR and thus JAWS, ranking just 24th in the latter category (40.1/28.8/34.5) and well off all three standards. That potentially sets him up for a polarizing fight between traditionalists and statheads, à la Jack Morris and Omar Vizquel though it’s important to acknowledge that pitch framing isn’t accounted for in those numbers; on that front, he’s one of the best, ranking fourth in Baseball Prospectus’ version (177 runs), which goes back to 1988. In my clunky attempts to integrate that into JAWS, he fares better, though so do contemporaries Russell Martin and Brian McCann, and few people besides me are banging the Cooperstown drum for them.
On the traditional front, Molina is coming off an injury-shortened season in which he was lousy with the bat (.270/.312/.399, 85 OPS+). He’s just 37 hits short of 2,000, and his contract expires this winter. Just before the 2020 season was postponed, The Athletic’s Mark Saxon reported that he was nearing an extension for one or two years, which obviously would give him time to surpass 2,000 hits. Even if he yields the starting job during that span, he’s likely to get the kind of sendoff that reinforces the notion he’s a future Hall of Famer.
Buster Posey
At 33 years old, Posey has already checked off some significant boxes when it comes to the Hall of Fame. He’s been the starting catcher on three World Series winners, won MVP and Rookie of the Year awards, made six All-Star teams, and won a Gold Glove (sharing a league with Molina has its consequences). His seven-year peak of 37.0 WAR is tied for eighth-best among catchers, and is 1.9 WAR above the average Hall of Fame backstop, though he’s still five points below the JAWS standard, below 11 of the 16 enshrinees. All of that’s before considering his elite pitch framing, which is value not even accounted for in the B-Ref version of WAR. He’s 123 runs above average in our version, which goes back to 2008; that’s seventh in terms of total in that span, and fifth in terms of rate among catchers with at least 4,000 innings behind the plate.
It’s already clear that age is catching up to Posey, who thanks in part to season-ending surgery to repair a torn right hip labrum in 2018 has played in just 219 games over the past two seasons and totaled just 12 homers and 3.9 WAR. At the plate, he was a shadow of himself last year, hitting .257/.320/.368 for an 84 OPS+. Like Donaldson, the biggest concern with regards to his Hall chances is his hit total, as he has just 1,380. If he’s only averaging 125 hits per year, which is right about where our Depth Charts projected him this spring, that’s a five-season pace, and while the extended break may help to heal his weary body, that still means he has to be productive through his age-38 season. A move to first base once Brandon Belt’s contract runs its course (after the 2021 season) may be necessary, though the risk of Posey being the second coming of Joe Mauer, with a light bat for that position, is a concern, too.
Joey Votto
From an advanced-stat standpoint, Votto is in excellent shape, with a 62.0/46.9/54.4 career/peak/JAWS line at a position where the standards are 66.9/42.7/54.8; his peak score ranks ninth among first basemen, higher than anybody outside the Hall save for Pujols. Likewise, his 150 OPS+ is ninth among first basemen with at least 7,000 PA, though that mark fell five points after a career-worst season in which Votto hit just .261/.357/.411 (98 OPS+) and had his worst strikeout-to-walk ratio (1.62) since his 2008 rookie campaign.
The big concern for Votto is his counting stats. Thanks to his elite plate discipline, he’s never collected more than 185 hits in a single year despite a career batting average of .307. Through his age-35 season, he’s still 134 hits short of 2,000, not to mention 16 homers short of 300. Signed through 2023 (with an option for 2024 that right now looks like a moot point), he’ll still have three more chances to pad that total, but if this season is a washout, it seems likely he’ll fall short of 2,500 hits. That won’t wreck his chances; Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, and Jeff Bagwell were all elected with fewer, but all had far more homers (Bagwell’s 449 trails that group) than Votto is likely to wind up with.
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Before moving on to pitchers, which I’ll do in my next installment, there’s one position player whom I neglected to mention in Part 1 who could stand a closer look, namely Dominic DiMaggio. The youngest of the three DiMaggio brothers who played in the majors (and the youngest of nine siblings overall), “The Little Professor” — who measured 5-foot-9 and 168 pounds compared to Joe’s strapping 6-foot-2 and 193 pounds — spent his career in the shadows of both his older brother and of Williams, his teammate on the Red Sox during his career (1940-53). An above-average hitter and excellent baserunner with a strong defensive reputation in center field, DiMaggio made seven All-Star teams while spending most of his career as a leadoff hitter ahead of Williams. He scored 110 runs or more six times, leading the league twice; led the AL in stolen bases once, with an absurdly low total of 15; placed in the top 10 six other times with totals as low as nine; and placed in the top 10 in batting average and on-base percentage three times apiece. For his career, he batted .298/.383/.419 (110 OPS+) with 87 home runs, 100 steals, and 33.1 WAR.
DiMaggio finished in his league’s top 10 in WAR only in 1942, with 5.3. That was his age-25 season; he missed the next three while serving in the Navy despite initially being classified as 4-F due to his nearsightedness. Had that five-win season represented the start of a sustained peak, perhaps producing 15-18 WAR over the three missing years and likely pushing him past 2,000 hits (he had 1,680, it’s not hard to imagine him being elected, as teammate Bobby Doerr — a nine-time All-Star who lost just one full season to the war and finished with 2,042 hits and 51.1 WAR — was in 1986, Williams’ first year on the Veterans Committee. However, that what-if is a pretty big one; in DiMaggio’s first season back, he was worth 4.4 WAR, and after that had four seasons in the mid-to-high threes but no five-win seasons. While I’m sympathetic to the possibility that his service cost him a shot, he looks a lot more like a Mike Cameron/Torii Hunter type than a true Hall of Famer.
Tomorrow I’ll return to my examination of active players, with a look at the pitchers whose paths to Cooperstown might be affected by baseball’s 2020 hiatus.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Molina is gonna be an all timer in the “Right guy gets into the Hall for all the Wrong Reasons” wing.
Williams and Mays were first ballot inductees. I was amazed to see that DiMaggio was not inducted until his third try but the player who lost more time to military service than any other was Hank Greenberg. Despite being one of the greatest hitters the game has ever seen, he did not receive the required percentage of votes until his tenth time on the ballot. What role did the missed time play or was anti-semitism an undercurrent that was prevalent in the BBWAA?
I’m sure it was both.
But at the time his career ended after the 1947 season, he ranked 165th in career hits. 74 of the 164 guys ahead of him would eventually wind up in the HOF. Some were still playing, like Joe DiMaggio who was ahead of Greenberg’s total after 1947 but still had more years left to play.
He was 5th in career HR at retirement, but that era cared a lot more about good old boring basehits (and boring runs scored, where he was 105th at retirement).
Advanced stats are far more kind to Greenberg. At retirement he was 5th all-time in OPS, 14th all-time in wRC+, and 6th in WOBA at .453.
But the 1950s voters seemed to have weighed the easy to count numbers a lot more heavily.
Setting aside the stray vote that DiMaggio received in 1945, when he was active but in the military, at the time he began receiving substantial support in 1953, the five-year wait rule wasn’t codified yet but was observed in custom. He was grandfathered into that rule in such a weirdly specific way that it applied only to him., and indicted less than four years after his final MLB game.
Thank you for that information. During my research I found Jimmie Foxx also had to wait for several years when he was #2 in HR’s and was obviously a Hall of Fame quality player. He even got 21 votes for the first class in 1936.
The Hall absolutely adores players who spend their entire career with one team. If Molina, Posey, and Votto all finish their careers on their original franchises, they’ll get the benefit of the doubt when the time comes.
I think that’s right. They each have a pretty good narrative as well. Maybe it’s because I’m a cardinals fan, but I can’t envision Votto not making the Hall. He seems like one of the best players of his generation but his tail may be terrible and losing this year could be bad for his counting stats if he’s in the rapid decline that 2019 indicated because he might simply be bad by the time 2021 rolls around.
Count me in. I mention the gut test in one of my comments and Votto is one of those players that absolutely passes that test. I don’t care what he does from here on out. He has reached the necessary plateau and will not fall off.
I want to believe this (for all the wrong reasons, though the romantic in me is satisfied), but I’m skeptical on Votto. Catchers get all the intangibles and benefits of doubt; 1B with fewer than 400 HR are a tougher sell, and I’m not sure people are going to look back on this era and remember Votto the way he probably deserves. Not to say he won’t get in, but I wouldn’t lump him in with hardware-equipped, media-adored catchers…
There are going to be way too many media members talking about how Votto would rather walk than drive in a run when he comes up for election.
Hopefully they instead remember this!
https://twitter.com/curtiswetzel/status/1015257727587807232
given how few catchers there are in the hall, I dunno how much that actually helps them.
Catchers typically have short careers. They tend to arrive late and end early. Few arrive as early as Pudge and even less last into their 40’s like Fisk.
And then few play more than 125 games a year, every year.
On top of it all, the best hitters get moved off the position, sometimes before hitting the majors.
All that limits their counting stats so they faced a rough road pre-advanced stats.
We’ll probably see a slightly better rate of catcher enshrinement going forward but the nature of the position will always hold them back.
You are right that the nature of the position holds them back, but it SHOULD NOT! They should be measured against other catchers, not left fielders or shortstops. The best catchers of their era should be recognized if it is clear that they were the best. Molina, Posey and Mauer all stand out from their peers, and by a lot.
IMO it’s players in their prime who stand to be impacted the most. Trout himself has quite the resume already, but players like Bregman, Yelich, Bellinger, as well as Betts and Lindor who were mentioned, stand to lose one of the best seasons of their careers. While they may have a lot of time left, what does that mean, really? Will they play longer at the back end of their careers because they missed this year? Possibly, though those years aren’t typically very productive.
The shaft that catchers get when being considered for the Hall of Fame would become far more egregious if the three great catchers of the 21st century are not inducted and it would be an equal travesty if they were not all first ballot selections. Bleep the numbers, winning is the name of the game and it isn’t a mere coincidence that the Giants. with 3 WS championships and the Cardinals with 2 were the teams that had top catchers. Mauer ‘s offense while he was doing all the catching for the Twins is remarkable. While the team wasn’t quite as successful as the Giants and Cardinals, it did win 3 AL Central titles during his tenure. It is grossly unfair to hold the relatively short time spent behind the plate against Posey and Mauer. The position is brutal and longevity is as much luck as anything. These three players stood head and shoulders above their peers at a position that is of the utmost importance. The next level is quite bit below them. I respect Varitek, Posada, McCann and Martin but none are in the class of Mauer, Posey and Molina and beyond them is a wasteland. It is hard to find a great catcher who wasn’t part of at least a very good team. Shortstop may be considered the most important position on the field but there is a greater correlation to winning by having a top catcher rather than a great SS. Just in my lifetime, Berra, Campy, Bench, Carter, Rodriquez, Molina, Munson and Posey all won World Series while, Fisk, Simmons and Piazza all played in the WS. Mauer, with 3 batting titles, 3 Gold Gloves as well as an MVP is a no-brainer. Catcher is simply a different position than any other because of the physical demands on every play, and in no other position does the nebulous concept of leadership, and its first cousin intangibles, offer such an opportunity to add to the value of the player, but it does at the catcher position. Can it measured, no, but only the most ardent stathead would deny its existence. Because of this a different set of criteria should be applied, the gut test. For example, I don’t think anyone would argue that Mickey Cochrane, Bill Dickey and Gabby Hartnett are not deserving of the Hall of Fame yet none of these great catchers amassed 2,000 hits. A number that might be insufficient for a player at a different position but should not even enter the discussion of the three just mentioned. These past greats and the three recent greats pass the gut test.
Catchers are unquestionably undervalued by the HOF. …that said, Jason Varitek mentioned with Posada, Martin, and McCann? Varitek has more in common with AJ Pierzynski than he does with those other three.
The intangibles of glove-punching A-Rod in the face and then helping to break one of the most iconic sports narratives in MLB history are perhaps the best one could ever hope to have. But in all serious I’m inclined to think Tek was included with those names in his capacity as a team leader who brought home a couple WS wins during his tenure. The Red Sox named him team captain after ’04, and the previous three team captains were Jim Rice, Carl Yastrzemski, and Jimmie Foxx, in that order, to clarify the significance of such a designation.
At the same time, Posada was a recognised team leader who helped bring home 4 WS wins, and he was a much better player than Varitek. The ten best seasons between Posada and Varitek are:
1: Posada, 2000, 6.1*
2: Posada, 2003, 6.0
3: Posada, 2007, 5.6
4: Posada, 2006, 4.3
5: Posada, 2002, 4.2
6 & 7: Posada, 2004, 4.1 & Varitek, 2004, 4.1*
8: Varitek, 2003, 3.8
9 & 10: Posada 2001, 3.5 & Varitek, 2005, 3.5
* Won WS in that year
The very fact that Varitek planted his mask in A-Rod’s face is the exact definition of the intangibles that a team leader, Varitek is the perfect example, brings to the team. Am I biased, without doubt, but watching Varitek for 12 full seasons provide solid play, which included two WS championships, 3 All-Star appearances, a Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger lifts him well above the bleeping numbers.
All the same, those Red Sox teams would have been better off with an above average player at catcher. 😉
24.2 bWAR is well above average.
2 WAR/yr is bang on average. There is nothing wrong with being an average major leaguer for more than a decade.
At catcher, 2.0/yr is very well above average
Posada’s higher value comes almost entirely from offense, so I’m not as persuaded to think Posada is a tier above. It was never a knock against him anyway.
This is, of course, the basis of my position when it comes to the catching position. At virtually every other position on the field offense is at least the equal partner in the blend of skills required to play in the major leagues on championship level teams and is, much more often than not, the determining factor. Even as staunch a defender of Xander Bogaerts as I am, I will acknowledge that he is not a world class defender but ooooh that bat! Because of his offense he is clearly a better choice over some slick fielding guy with a sausage bat. There are a few valuable CF’s that carry more leather than lumber. Catcher is different, the balance is different. There are many catchers who have had long careers with little offense, Jeff Mathis is just one. While these players are not Hall of fame players they do show that defense is at least as important as offense at catcher Comparing Posada and Varitek, in some ways, define the problem without clarifying it. Both were very good players who more than filled their roles on their respective teams. Posada has an edge on offense but Varitek was not Jeff Mathis, nor was Posada, Ryan Doumit. Watching Varitek play every day made me appreciate him tremendously. His preparation was legendary. How is that measured by mere numbers? His leadership was matched by few if any, but, lord knows, he could not catch Tim Wakefield. LOL.
Why are we using BRef WAR? Ya’lls is so much better
Jaffe argues that the old guys are hurt more by a lost season than the young guys. That’s absurd.
Pick a current Hall of Famer. Remove his age 36 season. Still a Hall of Famer? Quite likely.
Now pick that same Hall of Famer and remove his age 27 season. Ouch, his career numbers just dropped a lot more!
Obviously losing a prime season hurts a Hall of Fame candidacy far more than losing a tail-end season. We just won’t see the impact nearly as soon.
He’s still gonna get in but this missed time hurt Miguel Cabrera in terms of career totals. He has 4 years left on his current contract, if he averages the same amount of hits in those 4 years as he did last year he’s going to finish in the top 5 all time in hits. Will also join Hank Aaron as being the only guys in the top 5 with 500 HRs. He also had a chance to finish in the top 5 all time in RBIs(yes I know they don’t mean anything anymore but some people old timers still care about them) and top 7 in times on base.