The Giants Have Played Themselves Into a Pickle
Since June 1, the Oakland A’s have been one of the best teams in baseball, pushing themselves into the middle of the American League Wild Card race. But across the Bay, there’s been a team that’s been even better recently.
Since July 1, the Giants have posted the best record in baseball. They’ve lost just three games this month and have managed to claw their way back to .500 with an extra-innings, walk-off win over the Mets yesterday afternoon. That win clinched a four-game series that included two other extra-innings, walk-off wins. Sixteen games ago, the Giants were 10 games below .500 and possessed the second-worst record in the National League. They’re now tied for second in the NL West — though 16 games behind the Dodgers — and just 2 and 1/2 games out in the Wild Card race.
It’s been a remarkable turnaround for a club that looked like it was going nowhere less than a month ago. With a week and a half left until the trade deadline, the Giants suddenly face a tough decision about their mindset for the rest of the season. Madison Bumgarner and Will Smith have been continuously connected to trade rumors since this past offseason, but now that the team finds itself on the cusp of contention, they might not be as available as previously thought. This is how president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi put it in an interview with Giants beat writer Henry Schulman on July 21:
“It’s just very difficult at this point to speak in black-and-white terms. We’re really in a period of transition in this organization. When you can manage a transition and continue to compete, and continue to keep a fan base as loyal as this one energized and excited about the team, that’s obviously the perfect scenario.”
The expectations were understandably low heading into this season. After a couple of ugly seasons in 2017 and 2018, the Giants were clearly looking to reset when they hired Zaidi this winter. In February, longtime manager Bruce Bochy announced that he would be retiring following this season. Just a handful of players remain from the teams that won three World Series in five years earlier this decade, and many of their contracts are expiring soon. Despite that, over the last several weeks, they’ve managed to stumble into the perfect scenario Zaidi laid out above.
The Giants have scored 116 runs in July, the most in baseball. They’ve posted a +47 run differential because of that, helping them to erase a big chunk out of the -89 run differential they had posted through the first three months of play. Their offense really has been potent:
| Team | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | wRC+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Astros | 10.0% | 19.0% | .224 | .324 | 138 |
| Giants | 8.1% | 19.9% | .232 | .332 | 128 |
| Athletics | 8.7% | 18.2% | .241 | .291 | 128 |
| Indians | 8.5% | 19.2% | .229 | .332 | 127 |
| Cubs | 10.2% | 24.7% | .239 | .343 | 126 |
The odd thing is that none of the usual suspects are driving this surge up the standings. Brandon Crawford is the lone recognizable name with a batting line well above average this month (170 wRC+). Evan Longoria had posted a 280 wRC+ in nine games this month but was recently put on the injured list with a foot injury. Brandon Belt (106), Buster Posey (93), Kevin Pillar (91), and Pablo Sandoval (49) have merely been supporting pieces for the real show. Instead, the offense has come from scrap heap find Alex Dickerson (240), former top prospect Austin Slater (169), utility man Donovan Solano (168), and rookie with a family name Mike Yastrzemski (126).
Dickerson’s story is particularly inspiring. After breaking into the majors in 2016 with the Padres, a back injury cost him all of the 2017 season, and a UCL tear while rehabbing from that injury cost him all of 2018. He made his way back to the majors this year as a fifth outfielder for San Diego but was designated for assignment in mid-May and traded to the Giants a few days later. In his first game with San Francisco, he hit a grand slam and drove in a career-high six runs, and has slashed .397/.463/.795 since joining his new team.
Slater, Solano, and Yastrzemski won’t likely be able to carry the offense for the rest of the season. Belt and Posey have both been locked in a season-long funk that doesn’t look like it’s going to snap anytime soon. And most of the Giants top offensive prospects are too far from the majors to make an impact this year. Unless they add a bat or two in the next week and a half, this is the lineup they’re going roll out for the rest of the season, and it’s one that scored just 3.9 runs per game through the first three months of the year.
The Giants pitching staff has also been much better in July, as you’d expect. Outside of a rough May where they allowed 6.7 runs per game, their pitching staff has averaged around 4.2 runs allowed per game. In July, that mark has stayed steady at 4.1:
| Month | Innings | ERA | FIP | xFIP | K% | BB% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mar/Apr | 267 | 3.81 | 4.00 | 4.25 | 23.3% | 7.7% |
| May | 234 | 5.85 | 5.54 | 5.05 | 20.8% | 9.5% |
| June | 239 1/3 | 4.17 | 4.33 | 4.39 | 22.5% | 8.4% |
| July | 165 2/3 | 3.64 | 3.85 | 3.97 | 24.3% | 5.4% |
Despite all of the trade rumors swirling, and taking a nasty line drive off his elbow in his July 6 start, Bumgarner has been the Giants’ best starter this month. He’s allowed just a single run in each of his starts, and his last turn against the Mets was a gutsy nine inning outing. He’s been supported by a nice run from Jeff Samardzija (3.93 FIP in July) and Tyler Beede (3.36).
Beede’s development has been a nice surprise. He’s dabbled with adding a cutter/slider to his repertoire, and fully unleashed it in his three starts in July:

Adding a fourth pitch to his repertoire has seemed to unlock a new level of performance. In the three starts where he’s thrown his slider more than 10% of the time, he’s allowed just four runs and has run a 16-to-1 strikeout-to-walk ratio. His last start was an eight inning gem in which he allowed just five base runners and struck out five.
The problem the Giants face isn’t simple. Even though they’ve worked their way into the playoff conversation, they’re still on the periphery; this hot streak has boosted their playoff odds to just 5.8%:

Their shot at making the postseason is better than ever but they’re still sitting behind eight other teams in the National League. Their rest-of-season projections aren’t very favorable, either. They’re projected to post the second worst record in the NL the rest of the way, giving them a projected record of just 78-84, definitely not good enough to compete for the Wild Card.
Even though Zaidi would like to continue to try and be competitive during this period of transition, it really seems like July has been a flash in the pan. The odds say they’re not close enough to consider buying. If they’re looking to hold onto their most desirable trade pieces, they have to believe that their offense is good enough and their pitching improved enough to ride this hot streak out. Listening to offers for Bumgarner, Smith, and others is probably still in their best interest, though they might wait until the very last minute to pull the trigger on any trades, just in case.
Jake Mailhot is a contributor to FanGraphs. A long-suffering Mariners fan, he also writes about them for Lookout Landing. Follow him on BlueSky @jakemailhot.
MLB needs to do all it can to keep Bochy and crew out of October baseball. Then, a new set of rules come into play. In Billy Beane’s immortal words, that s**t don’t work here (in the post season).
What?
It’s been a lot of really fun, great baseball recently, and the Giants have been at the front. BUT, to keep things fun, I still want them to sell off some studs.
not sure where you get that they’re sitting behind 8 other teams in the NL. They are currently tied for 8th with Arizona. Means there are only 7 teams ahead of them. Of those 7 though- 4 are within 3 games of them.
These next 6 games will really tell the story on what the Giants do. 3 with the Cubs, 3 @ Padres. If they go 4-2 or better, it’s going to be really close to impossible to sell.
I do wonder if having Bochy in there changes the thinking at all compared to if they had a rookie manager…..
No offense, but the teams that the Giants have played in July have not been the greatest of teams . Unless I’m badly mistaken none of their July opponents so far have been playing well. That is not to say that San Francisco has not been playing well themselves, they have, but that they shouldn’t let this one good month dictate their long term plans.
that’s why these 3 Cubs games are so big. If they get dominated, it’s an easy call. But if they take 2 of 3, or gosh forbid sweep the Cubs, it’s going to be nearly impossible to pull the trigger.
The Giants won 2 out of 3 against the Cardinals, who have gone 11-6 so far this month.
This is actually going to be tougher to swallow than the Rangers, who are superficially in a similar situation (playing competitive ball) but they’re quite a bit behind the Rays, A’s, and Cleveland (and to a lesser extent the Red Sox and Angels).
I think you probably have to try and trade Bumgarner and Will Smith, and probably Sam Dyson too. But one of the blessings/curses of the myriad no-trade clauses on the Giants’ roster is that even if they wanted to trade Posey, Crawford, or Belt (or Melancon, or Samardzija) they probably can’t, at least not for anything worth having (not even salary relief). Unless one of those guys starts playing better, wants out, and gives them list of 10+ teams they’d accept a trade to, I think the Giants are stuck with them forever. But it also makes it look like less of a teardown to the casual fan.
You don’t think they could find a suitor for Belt or Melancon?
with their contracts? Not really.
If they could get them to waive the no trade to one or two specific teams, then they have to get by those one or two teams low-balling them. And if they can get by that, considering that both of their contracts are seriously underwater, they’d have to pay down nearly the whole contract, because Belt is barely above replacement at the plate right now and Melancon would be something like the 14th best reliever on the trade market. At that point, you might as well just keep them.
Posey might have some value because he can still do a good job behind the plate, though. You’d still have to get by the no-trade, potential low-ball offers, and pay down most of the contract but I bet you could get something good for him if you did all that.
Belt has a wRC+ of 109. That is hardly replacement level (75-80), or even average, though for a 1Bman it’s about average.
Yeah, I should have been clearer. He’s barely been above replacement level overall because his defense at 1B has slipped from being excellent to…not terrible, but definitely not excellent.
That all said there was a big article here about how he could bounce back at the plate a month ago, and so it’s possible if they hold onto him he could become a league-average starter again.
theyre not some small market team with no track record. they should always be buyers if there is a shot at the WC
Not all teardowns are about money;there’s also beefing up the farm.
As a Dodger fan this is ideal. Hopefully they will buy/stand pat and be bad for years and years to come.
As a fellow Dodger fan, is there not a tiny part of you that is terrified that the Giants sneak into the Wild Card game, win it, knock out the Dodgers in the NLDS… get to the World Series where Pablo Sandoval hits 3HR off of Justin Verlander in game 1 as the Giants sweep the Astros?
Totally agree. From 2010 to 2014, the Giants somehow won three rings and ten consecutive postseason series despite averaging just 87 wins per season over that span.
Never, ever, ever underestimate the immense power of their collective rectal horseshoe.
RECTAL HORSESHOE??!!?!! NEIGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Totally misleading. That average is dragged down by a losing record in 2013. The 2010 team won 92 games which was the 2nd most wins in the NL and the 2012 team won 94 games which was the third most wins in the NL and they beat the two NL teams with more regular seasons wins in the postseason.
Can we start calling him Tyler “the Venerable” Beede?
Baseball needs more official nicknames.
Twiki would also work (the robot from Buck Rodgers that said “beede beede beede”).
I feel like “the Venerable” should wait until his last few years in the league.
Their situation reminds me of that of the 2018 Pirates, who had a pre-deadline hot streak to get into the NL Wild Card picture and then foolishly decided to pull the trigger on the trade for Chris Archer. They predictably played to the projections for the remainder of the season and finished fourth in the NL … Central.
Looking at what Kimbrel and Keuchel faced with the QO compensation attached, I’m sure that will effect Bum’s FA (and probably every other QO FA, even Gerrit Cole), if he ends the season untraded.
I don’t know which teams are calling in to the Giants, but I’d guess the math of 1 prospect for 2 months loses out to a 2nd/3rd round pick + the new contract, and teams didn’t even want to do that last year.
It’s weird to think, i’d like to see him stay on the team and get paid, but the path to a collusion-mitigated FA doesn’t have the QO anywhere near it.
I think a big question with the Giants is will Madbum waive his no trade to 8 teams- which include teams like the Astros, Braves, Brewers, Cards, Cubs, Phillies, Red Sox ,and Yankees. You look at that list and you have just about all the possible NL spots(except for the Dodgers and Nationals) and then 3 of the bigger AL ones.
If Madbum doesn’t waive it- it’s going to severely limit what the Giants can do.
But Madbum will waive it, for a price. That’s why he picked those teams for his no-trade agreement. To squeeze out a few more dollars in any trade deal.
I don’t think that’s a guarantee at all. He’ll cross the free agent piece when it gets here but I could see him not wanting to move for 8 weeks.
Also some of those teams aren’t exactly pitcher friendly parks.
Or he picked those teams because they were the obvious choices, since to have made it a list of the teams he’d least like to play for would have been to waste probably all 8 spots on non-contenders who were never going to trade for an impending FA anyway. I mean why even negotiate the NTC in the first place? But whether he had in mind only being able to negotiate an extension up front or declining some of those teams regardless, the fact is nobody else knows. Not to mention that whatever he was thinking at the time might be entirely different today now that the Giants are playing meaningful games again.
He’d be a pretty good fit for the Cardinals and Braves, but aside from that those are some parks that are relatively favorable to power, and in some cases especially favorable to right-handed power (although Fenway is weird). Honestly, I think he makes the most sense in Tampa and I’m rooting for this to happen.
They should still be trying to sell everyone but I’m starting to think it will work out that they will deal Smith + Dyson or Watson while keeping Bumgarner. Not only because of the no trade list to work around but it seems like the most obvious suitors are not that high on Bum anyway given how his fly ball and hard hit rates might play in some of their smaller parks. Figure on top the value that a playoff run could mean for the Giants as long as they are able to hang in it and you see their FO moving in the opposite direction on the return they’ll need to pull the trigger. Too big of a gap I think. Though who knows, a lot could still change in 8 days.
As a Giants fan, I’m hoping they sell off Smith, Dyson, and Watson to improve the upper part of their system. As far as Bum is concerned, I say re-sign him to a 4ish year deal so he can see them through till the Giants acquire some real pitching.
Next year Bart and Ramos will be in AA-AAA, Bishop and Labour in A , maybe AA, Luciano in A or A+, and Hjelle in AA. By late 2020 some of the young guys may be knocking on the major league door. I’m still mad the Giants foolishly traded Bryan Reynolds in 2018 for Andrew McCutchen.
I really don’t see why they or any team should not take advantage of an opportunity to win now. Saying you should only try to win when you have more than say a 30% chance by projection models isn’t the way to keep fans interested. I guess if someone wants to trade a blocked starting caliber player like Clint Frazier — if they believe he fits that description— for Will Smith they should do it. But I don’t see a rationale for punting any season where you’re in it on July 31. I doubt fans would appreciate not giving Bumgarner a chance to win a WC game and get to the NLDS.
I think a lot of franchises will be grateful that ultimately San Francisco decided not to squeeze them for a rental of Bumgarner and Smith. Particularly with the prices the Giants were asking. I saw one proposed trade package to the Braves that included Christain Pache, Ian Anderson, and Bryse Wilson. Yikes.
I live in the Chicago area and every time I mention the Gleyber Torres trade for 2 months of Chapman, the locals just stoically repeat “flags fly forever” with this POW thousand yard stare on their face.
This surge by the Giants closely resembles last year’s hot stretch by the Pirates. It came at just the wrong time and led to the ill-fated Archer disaster. The Giants should look into the future and not let this surprising run interfere with the necessary rebuild.
The Giants are already rebuilding. They have two rookies (Anderson, Beede) in the starting rotation. They have a rookie (Mike Yastrzemski) in left field. Austin Slater in right field still trying to establish himself (408 career PA). And they just called up third baseman Zack Green.
So I just got back froma 2-week vacation where I was pretty much “off the grid” and looked at the NL West standings on the ESPN site and thought it must have been a misprint, so I checked MLB.com and saw the same thing, SF in second place. I have no idea how the hell that happened, but I look at this roster pretty much the same way as I did before I left, and no way do I see this team getting in as a WC without several major moves. They are much better off in the long run as sellers (which I was saying last year before they got Longoria and McCutcheon), but if they want to double down on the present, as a Dback fan, I say “go for it”. At the same time, even though the Dbacks have the second best run differential in the NL (because they go nuts a handful of games and win extreme blowouts), they are better off selling too. Hopefully they buy some prospects by paying down much of Grienke’s salary. It’s not like they’re going to splurge on free agents in the next two years anyway, so why not spend the money that way?