The Hypothetical Value of an Ideal, Frictionless Banging Scheme
The Astros cheated. That’s not in dispute. The search for just how much the banging scheme helped the team, however, is ongoing. Rob Arthur got the party started. Tony Adams chronicled the bangs. Here at FanGraphs, Jake Mailhot examined how much the Astros benefited, which players were helped most, and even how the banging scheme performed in clutch situations. In a recent press conference, owner Jim Crane downplayed the benefit, saying “It’s hard to determine how it impacted the game, if it impacted the game, and that’s where we’re going to leave it.” It’s a rich literature, and not just because it’s fun to write “banging scheme” — but I didn’t want to leave it there.
I thought I’d take a different tack. All of these studies are based on reality, and reality has one huge problem: it’s so maddeningly imprecise. You can’t know if we captured all the right bangs. You can’t know if the system changed, or if it had details or mechanisms we didn’t quite understand or know about. And even when everything is captured right, those sample sizes, those damn sample sizes, are never quite what you need to feel confident in their results.
If we simply ignore what actually happened and create our own world, we can skip all that grubby, confusing reality. Imagine, if you will, a player who makes perfectly average swing decisions and achieves perfectly average results on those decisions.
Let’s further stipulate, while we’re far off into imaginary land, that pitchers attack our perfectly average batter in a perfectly average way. For each count, they’ll throw a league average number of fastballs, and those fastballs will be in the strike zone at — you guessed it — a league average rate. The same is true for all other pitches — with cut fastballs included in “all other pitches” in this analysis.
For example, here’s what a 3-2 count looks like for our generic batter:
| Type | Frequency | Take% | Swing% | Foul/Swing | Whiff/Swing | In Play/Swing | wOBAcon |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fastball, In Zone | 34.8% | 9.0% | 91.0% | 42.3% | 12.0% | 45.7% | 0.417 |
| Fastball, OOZ | 22.5% | 55.4% | 44.6% | 44.3% | 24.8% | 30.9% | 0.34 |
| Other, In Zone | 22.0% | 9.3% | 90.7% | 39.1% | 17.7% | 43.2% | 0.408 |
| Other, OOZ | 20.7% | 48.6% | 51.4% | 32.3% | 41.7% | 26.0% | 0.295 |
Since we know the rate at which each event happens as well as the wOBA value of each result, we can work out the expected wOBA for a 3-2 count: .366. You might notice, if you were inclined to dig, that actual wOBA in 3-2 counts in 2019 was .377. The reason for this discrepancy is another thing I’m assuming: I’m using an automatic strike zone. Every taken pitch in the zone is a called strike, and every taken pitch outside of the zone is a ball.
On 3-2 counts, this isn’t true in real life. Nearly 20% of pitches taken in the strike zone were called balls by the umpire, while only 5% of pitches outside the zone were called strikes. But to make the math easier, we’re using the exact rulebook definition, as defined by the Gameday strike zone.
Now that we know the 3-2 outcomes, we can work out the 3-1 outcomes, because any strike on 3-1 results in a 3-2 count, and we already know the wOBA value of a 3-2 count. Working backwards in this way, I found the value of every count. From 0-0, our hypothetical average batter produces a .322 wOBA, slightly higher than the actual average major league line but close.
Next, let’s start banging. Our imaginary cameraman in the stands sends his imaginary feed to the dugout hallway, where imaginary staffers bang on an imaginary trashcan. Our batter is now simply taking every pitch that isn’t a fastball. 3-2, for example, looks like this:
| Type | Frequency | Take% | Swing% | Foul/Swing | Whiff/Swing | In Play/Swing | wOBAcon |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fastball, In Zone | 34.8% | 9.0% | 91.0% | 42.3% | 12.0% | 45.7% | 0.417 |
| Fastball, OOZ | 22.5% | 55.4% | 44.6% | 44.3% | 24.8% | 30.9% | 0.34 |
| Other, In Zone | 22.0% | 100.0% | 0.0% | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Other, OOZ | 20.7% | 100.0% | 0.0% | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
But something’s gone wrong. The wOBA of a batter who automatically takes everything but fastballs and behaves normally on fastballs is only .309. This batter knows what’s coming, and he’s doing worse!
Why is that? It comes down to behavior. Just because you know a pitch isn’t a fastball doesn’t mean that taking is optimal. In two strike counts, our hypothetical batter is far too passive. You don’t get extra credit for spitting on a curveball if it’s over the plate. So let’s revise our sketch. Now he’ll treat fastballs normally, and also treat non-fastballs in the strike zone normally. Is this a stretch? Maybe. But for the sake of argument, let’s say that after hearing a bang, our batter can work out that a given pitch is going to bend into the strike zone. Now 3-2 looks like this:
| Type | Frequency | Take% | Swing% | Foul/Swing | Whiff/Swing | In Play/Swing | wOBAcon |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fastball, In Zone | 34.8% | 9.0% | 91.0% | 42.3% | 12.0% | 45.7% | 0.417 |
| Fastball, OOZ | 22.5% | 55.4% | 44.6% | 44.3% | 24.8% | 30.9% | 0.34 |
| Other, In Zone | 22.0% | 9.3% | 90.7% | 39.1% | 17.7% | 43.2% | 0.248 |
| Other, OOZ | 20.7% | 100.0% | 0.0% | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
This type of sign-stealing is phenomenally more valuable. Our hitter, who as you’ll remember has average results on contact and whiffs just like any mere mortal when he swings, now has a .372 wOBA. That’s like turning Adam Frazier into José Altuve.
Where does the added value come from? There’s a small boost to production on contact (because putting a pitch outside of the strike zone into play is generally a bad result), but it’s mostly strikeouts and walks. In a 3-2 count, an average batter strikes out roughly 27.5 % of the time. Our bang-enabled batter checks in at a delicious 20.2%. After 2-2 counts, an average batter strikes out 38% of the time. Golden boy checks in at 28.6%. He strikes out roughly as often, from a 2-2 count, as the average batter does on 3-2!
The walks are the same story — 44.6% walks out of a 3-2 count is better than Joey Votto has done for his career, and our guy doesn’t even have a good eye! In fact, taking breaking balls outside of the strike zone automatically produces a strikeout rate of 14.8% with an otherwise average player. That’s an extreme case, sure — but it shows how valuable knowing what’s coming can be.
My simulated sign-stealing diverges from reality in many ways. Most notably, the “never swings at breaking balls out of the zone but always swings at breaking balls in the zone” rule would never work in practice. Many of those pitches are only inches apart, and knowing a pitch isn’t a fastball isn’t the same as knowing exactly where it will cross the plate.
Even if the benefit is only half as pronounced as this model, though, it’s still a huge edge in a sport where everyone is looking for tiny edges. And though my swing decision rule gives the batter too much credit, my estimates for production on contact might be too conservative. After all, an average hitter might deliver better-than-average results when hitting a fastball that he knows is coming. Some percentage of the production on contact in every bucket is the result of hitters who were fooled but still put the ball in play, which wouldn’t happen if the batter knows what’s coming. That’s difficult to model, but it’s clearly worth something.
What was most instructive to me about this exercise is where the value comes from. The wOBA edge in 3-2 counts is real, but it’s less than 50 points. After 2-0, it’s even smaller than that. Lots of value is hidden in the first two pitches of a plate appearance. On the first pitch, the perfectly-informed batter goes down 0-1 45% of the time, as opposed to 48% for a regular batter. How about 0-1? A regular batter goes from 0-1 to 0-2 42% of the time. Sign-stealing lowers that to 34%. The average batter, after being ahead 1-0, gets to 2-0 37% of the time. In our hypothetical, that climbs to 42%. It’s not just that our bang beneficiary does better in every count; he also gets to the better counts more often.
The point is, the value of stealing signs doesn’t have to be obvious. It’s not about crushed home runs in surprising fastball counts or even really about loud contact. It’s merely an accumulation of small edges, the Votto-ization of average batters. Being a little ahead in every count stacks up to produce a huge effect.
Knowing this, it’s easier to understand why looking for the edge the Astros got has been so challenging. It’s mostly in not swinging and counts not achieved, and as we saw from the hypothetical player who only swung at fastballs, incorrectly laying off a pitch in the strike zone is pretty harmful. It doesn’t take many crossed signals, bangs that keep batters from swinging at fastballs, to do some damage to the bottom line.
I don’t mean to say that there was no benefit to the scheme, or that unless they were perfectly accurate it didn’t provide a competitive advantage. In fact, the potential gains are large. But without knowing the full extent of the system, or whether any alternative or additional methods were used, I’m not surprised that we have trouble isolating the benefit in the data.
Someday, we’ll know more about the exact particulars of the Dark Arts scheme. Until more evidence comes out, though, I hope it’s helpful to see the theoretical benefit of sign-stealing, to give an idea of the theoretical advantage to be gained, and to see why baseball has come down so strongly against it.
This article has been updated to correct a typo in the first table.
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
Bang on.
Unless it’s a fastball
Wording.
What better day to talk about how best to construct a banging scheme that adds value than Valentine’s Day?
As the first paragraph attests, the true value of the Banging Scheme has been enjoyed by baseball writers with deadlines. Too much coverage is never enough, apparently. Fortunately, next week we can move on to greater issues, like shoulders, elbows and hamstrings.
sure beats fielding questions about whether or not Kyle Wright figures it out this year (answer: maybe to no)
He had it all figured out as of two years ago I believe!
I’m assuming that the column header in the first couple tables for wOBAcon should actually be wOBA? Because it seems quite odd that the wOBAcon of out-of-zone non-fastballs on 3-2 is higher than any other category’s wOBAcon, but because of the very high walk rate it would make sense for the wOBA to be the highest.
Yeah I transposed in wOBA for those two only. Table has been updated. Thanks for pointing this out.
“taking breaking balls outside of the strike zone automatically produces a strikeout rate of 14.8% with an otherwise average player.”
I don’t understand this statement. In the previous paragraph, you said the K rate would be 20.2%. I actually get 15.5%, on the first pitch of a 3-2 count, but since about one quarter of these pitches are fouled off, you have to add another 4% or so, plus another 1%. That I assume is how you come up with 20.2%–through an infinite regress that effectively ends after two fouls.
Similarly, the initial K-rate in your first table, for no bangs, is 19.9%, which reaches 27+ % assuming a similar rate after one and two fouls. I assume that is how you’re getting those rates.
Well you can just ignore the fouls completely on 3-2. So you use a smaller denominator, (1-foul%). And everything before that is a tree, so on 3-1, you have some chance of a walk, some chance of getting to 3-2 (where we already know the strikeout rate), and some chance of putting the ball in play. The percentage chance of a strikeout after 3-1 is the odds of getting from 3-1 to 3-2 multiplied by the 3-2 strikeout rate.
14.8% is the overall strikeout rate you get from tracing back in this way all the way to 0-0. It’s not the rate after 3-2, merely the odds the PA ends in a strikeout at the beginning of the at bat.
Sounds like the title of a nerd’s sex tape
Rice fans haven’t been this excited about anything baseball related in 2 decades.
Votto-ization might be my new favorite baseball term.
Mexican God of Walks
Correction, Maple God of Walks
“The wOBA edge in 3-2 counts is real, but it’s less than 50 points. ”
Also,
“That means if you get just one extra flare a week, just one, a gork, a ground ball — a ground ball with eyes! — you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week and you’re in Yankee Stadium.”
The search for just how much the banging scheme helped the team is a shameless click bait. The significance of this will always be debated. This is the same community that applauds the efforts of teams to use technology to gain an advantage.
Astros fan by chance?
I think the hardest thing to calculate is the psychological ‘edge’ you get from having an advantage. Athletes of all sports talk about how important confidence is and I distinctly remember some of the steroid users discussing the mental boost they got from using. That said I think we’re all ready to move on to spring training…
And actual baseball. Amen.
Frictionless banging scheme is the name of my parliament funkadelic tribute band. I will see you in court, FanGraphs
I wish they’d simply go back to corked bats instead of all this buzzer-gate, trash bang wizardry.
Ben, you’re good at this baseball writing thing. I’m sorry that you’ll be leaving FanGraphs for a club in 5…4…3…
This makes complete sense, and also matches what I’ve been thinking or saying since this broke…it’s a lot of advantages on individual pitches that change outcomes. It puts everything they do into doubt because you don’t know what at bat or result is changed by having an incremental advantage.
I think what’s really made me angriest is remembering their attitudes and the arrogance in 2017. Watching the World Series, it really stood out, especially with Bregman and Gurriel, but all of them to a lesser extent. And now we know that they were cheating the whole time, and not only do they not have any remorse but their arrogance back then looks even worse. The celebrations and the obnoxious attitudes weren’t earned…just a total joke. And they essentially got away with it.
I know what you mean when you say they got away with it. But at least it’s out in the open now (well – who really knows – at least some of it out in the open). And even though there is no punishment from the league, at least the players have to answer to the media and the fans. That’s something, if not entirely satisfying.
In my opinion looking at individual or even team stats to determine the effects of cheating is misguided. They aren’t cheating to pad stats they’re cheating to win a ballgame. Their scheme can fail to produce a meaningful result for 8 innings but if one correctly stolen sign in the 9th leads to a walk-off hit then it was worth it to the team. How many losses did the scheme cost them? Probably zero. But if they won 5 games because of it then that’s like adding an all-star player at no cost.
As a Pirates fan, I’m all for Altuve turning into Frazier, as long as Frazier turns into Altuve.
But if a batter has this power to make perfect swing decisions, why not skip the banging and make perfect decisions on fastball too? That power is what’s doing all the work here.
Maybe a dumb question, but all of these scenarios address what pitch is coming; However, there are two pieces of information relayed in the catchers signs: pitch type and location. Has it been proven that they didn’t steal location? I would think that they stole and relayed whatever they could get. If so, how would their advantage multiply with knowledge of location?
Oof. That Altuve/Frazier comparison hurts.
The “banging” is a red herring. They were using a buzzer and whistling too.
Have not read it (about to) but guessing the conclusion is: not much.
So a simpler view might be to assume that fastball in the zone on a 3-2 pitch = what the results would be knowing what pitch is coming. Assuming most PA’s will include one of these if you know the pitches, then you have a metric to compare against the baseline of production. You need to calculate/estimate walk and K rates under these conditions (K rates drop, walk rates up) but can assume that the new normal would be essentially 3-2 FB outcomes. Seems like the impact would be quite a bit higher.
I think a tell on all of this is how obviously angry many known players are and willing to speak on the record about it. This, to me, is not a media-driven tempest in a teapot thing.
Nice analysis, Ben. It’s an elegant way to estimate the upper bound of the banging advantage.
Could this be why it appeared Carlos Correa was seen taking so many strikes fastballs in the zone? In 2017? I’m the co host for Locked on Astros a daily Astros podcast, and I find this article intriguing.
Baseball has come down so strongly against it? Has baseball really come down so strongly against this? Not one player has been disciplined over this. Good article but baseball has not come down strongly on the problem here.