The Mets Need More Pitchers Already

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You have to hand it to the Mets. There really does seem to be something ineffable that brings drama to Queens. No, I don’t mean the LOLMets meme, the belief that things will find a way to break every year, because I don’t really think it’s true. The Mets aren’t cursed. But they do have a way of making things interesting. It’s never all smooth sailing, but they’re never completely down and out either. There’s always a little more to explore at Citi Field, and this offseason is no exception. The Mets are on top of the world, because they signed Juan Soto, one of the biggest free agent prizes of all time. And they have their backs to the wall, because two pitchers they signed to assemble a playoff rotation are already injured.

Frankie Montas was the first casualty. He felt discomfort after his very first bullpen session of spring training, and a lat sprain means that he won’t be able to throw for another 5-7 weeks. Given that the regular season is five weeks away, and that Montas had done essentially no buildup before his injury, we’re talking about multiple months of absence.

The good news is the Mets built their rotation this offseason to withstand injuries. After all, Montas wasn’t the most prominent starting pitcher they signed this winter. Sean Manaea holds that distinction; he was the best pitcher on last year’s team, and though he hit free agency, he signed a three-year deal worth $75 million to come back. That’s not quite ace money in today’s game, which is perfect: Manaea’s not quite an ace, just a solid playoff starter with upside. Except, he’s also hurt now. After feeling some discomfort of his own, an MRI revealed a right oblique strain.

The prognosis doesn’t immediately sound as dire for Manaea. But will he miss time? When asked, manager Carlos Mendoza was realistic: “[H]e’s going to be shut down for a couple of weeks – and then we’ll reassess after that. We’ve gotta build him back up again. Safe to say that he’s probably gonna start the season on the IL.” That’s a rough blow considering how much time there still is before the season starts for more body parts to bark, more ligaments to tweak.

Here’s where the New York rotation stands today, per RosterResource:

Projected Opening Day Rotation
Starter 2025 Projected ERA 2025 Projected IP 2025 Projected WAR
Kodai Senga 3.65 162 2.4
David Peterson 3.89 149 1.7
Clay Holmes 3.61 165 2.5
Paul Blackburn 4.37 111 0.7
Griffin Canning 4.59 99 0.4

That’s a motley crew, though not one without upside. Senga was spectacular in 2023, then missed basically all of 2024 with injury issues of his own. Peterson missed the first two months of last season himself. That’s just the way of modern rotations, but the risk in having those two as the best two starters is meaningful. If you told a random GM in baseball that those were his top two guys, he’d surely want to have strong depth behind them to compensate.

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That’s not the case here. Holmes is notable in the no. 3 spot. Observers with a pulse and a television will surely remember that Holmes just got done with a lengthy stint as a high-leverage reliever. The last time he started a game was 2018, his rookie season, and he’s averaged fewer than one inning per appearance for the past five years.

That’s not to say he can’t do it, of course. You don’t have to look very long to find examples of conversions like this working out. Last year was a banner year for it, in fact. Garrett Crochet went from power reliever to one of the best starters in baseball. Reynaldo López was spectacular in his return to the rotation. Jordan Hicks started strong before the workload caught up to him and he had to return to bullpen duty, and he’s coming back as a starter this year. A.J. Puk – well, OK, they can’t all be success stories.

Trying out a conversion like this makes a lot of sense, particularly for a team like the Mets. The upside is high, the risk is manageable (Holmes would still be a great reliever), and there are enough other pitching options that the team doesn’t need him to successfully make the switch. Or that was the case a few weeks ago, at least. Now, Holmes is the third starter for the short term rather than the no. 5. The risk has grown to match the reward; a converted reliever as your fifth or sixth starter just doesn’t feel the same as having the same name in the top three.

Think of it this way: In January, the short-term plan if Holmes couldn’t hack it in the rotation was to use whichever of Blackburn or Canning looked better in the spring. Now, those guys are both in the rotation already. They can’t replace Holmes, because they’ve already been enlisted to replace Manaea and Montas. Think of it as the difference between bowling with bumpers or without; a gutterball feels a lot more devastating without support.

That’s unquestionably a bummer. But there’s good news here, too, if you know where to look. For lots of teams, losing two of your top three projected starters, both for an extended time period, would mean turning to some downright dire options. But from my perspective, Blackburn and Canning are pretty great as emergency replacements, and the Mets have other options besides.

Blackburn was a deadline acquisition last year, and he’s the very model of a modern fifth starter. He’s not particularly durable; he’s returning from offseason back surgery. He’s not someone you want starting a key game in October or even down the stretch. But as someone to throw five professional innings every fifth day? I’m completely on board, which is more than you can say for a lot of sixth starters across the league.

Canning feels like a more speculative option to me. He looked diminished in 2024, with every one of his pitches flashing worse metrics by both pitching models we host here, and he had worse results at the per-pitch level and also by ERA, FIP, and pretty much everything else. But even then, he delivered better-than-replacement value while making 31 starts. That’s exactly what I want out of my seventh starter – the ability to become a fifth starter when necessary without being a true liability in that spot. If Canning is still in the rotation in June, something has probably gone wrong. But six starts in a pinch? You could do worse.

“You could do worse” is a double-edged sword, though. Because if Canning is the fifth starter now, that means he can’t be the injury fill-in. What if Holmes gets hurt? What if Canning gets hurt? What if one of Montas or Manaea misses more time than expected? What if they both do? It’s irresponsible to have only five starters you like, even for a month, and the Mets are going to have to find some others, either from their own farm system or in free agency.

On the prospect front, there’s always the option to bring up your best minor leaguer and see if things click right away. Brandon Sproat just checked in at 24th on our Top 100 Prospects list. Eric Longenhagen lauded his six-pitch mix and fastball that touches 100, and penciled him in for a 2025 debut. Well, guess what: Opportunity has come knocking. At this point, it’s hard to count on a guy who was still in college in 2023 to deliver important major league innings in 2025, but that’s what spring training is for: If Sproat looks ready for a shot, the path is clear for him to get one.

Behind Sproat, things get meaningfully thinner. Maybe Nolan McLean can make the leap, but he hasn’t shown it just yet. Maybe Jonah Tong is more of a starter than a multi-inning reliever, and also ready sooner than expected. Maybe the spectacularly named Blade Tidwell will bounce back after a rough 2024. But I don’t expect much out of anyone aside from Sproat; anyone else from the farm who can eat innings is just a bonus.

This being the Mets, there’s always the option of using money to solve the problem, and there are a smattering of interesting free agent starters still out there, among them Jose Quintana, who spent the last two seasons with the Mets, Spencer Turnbull, Lance Lynn, and Kyle Gibson. Jay Jaffe covers that quartet and other remaining free agent pitchers in a separate piece today, so I won’t go into depth on them here. They’re the kinds of guys that, should they turn out just a little worse than expected, might end up DFA’d a month into the season. But that seems like a perfectly acceptable outcome given the respective timelines of Manaea and Montas.

If I were the Mets, I’d opt for all of the above in this case. You don’t go sign Soto to a gargantuan deal and then cheap out at the bottom of the rotation. If Sproat has the juice to pitch in the majors right now, he should be doing it. We’ll know a lot more about that in a month – but by then, it’ll be much harder to sign another veteran as insurance. And what if someone else gets hurt? Sure, three-fifths of your starting rotation getting injured before Opening Day sounds unlikely – but conditional on two of them already being injured with more than a month still to go, the odds go up meaningfully.

David Stearns and the Mets front office know this. It’s why they guaranteed Canning $4.25 million to be a seventh option. It’s why they’re giving Holmes a chance to start even with Sproat in the high minors. There are some failures the Mets can’t feasibly plan around — their stars don’t have easy replacements. But short-term pitching injuries to two good-but-not-dominant starters? That’s not an acceptable point of failure; it makes no sense to let such a relatively small bump in the road risk tipping the cart over, particularly when the cart is so loaded with expensive, delicious apples. (The apples here are hitters, please don’t mind my horribly mixed metaphors.) So my conclusion is that they won’t give it a chance to break this way; they’ll sign someone new, push Sproat, and happily move on from the back-of-roster options in favor of trying something new if the first few attempts don’t pan out. That’s just good business. And the Mets, these days, are increasingly doing good business.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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RobertMember since 2016
1 year ago

Megill? MLB.com reported Megill

artkarnMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert

What am I missing- why no mention of Megill? He seems like a pretty effective option and was pretty good down the stretch last year.

Jeff in JerseyMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  artkarn

I’m really surprised that Megill didn’t make it into this article–oversights happen, of course. The Mets obviously still believe in him as a starter, the coaches are saying good things, and he’s had some success. He’ll get a shot well before Sproat and probably Blackburn, who I believe may not be ready for Opening Day.

Idli Amin, The Last King of SambarMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  artkarn

Megill has the disadvantage of being optionable, while Blackburn and Canning don’t. However, his much-improved performance down the stretch was backed up by the metrics, and correlates strongly with his integration of a sinker. Stuff models LOVE it; it looks and behaves uncannily (un-Canningly?) like Zack Wheeler’s. Both Megill and Wheeler are extension boys who get a lot of chase on their sinkers (>40% O-Swing, which is outstanding). Megill now features a wide arsenal that, in keeping with the Mets’ philosophy, includes three different fastballs.

He shuttled between AAA and the big leagues all year, returning to the big leagues for good on August 30th. Prior to 8/30, he had an ERA/FIP/xFIP of 5.17/4.08/4.22, 1.43 WHIP, 1.15 HR/9, 26.3 K%, and 10.5 BB%, with a 99 Stuff+ and an atrocious 90 Location+, in 47 IP (10 G, 9 GS). From 8/30 on, he had a 2.32/2.75/3.13, 1.13 WHIP, 0.58 HR/9, 28.1 K%, and 7.8 BB%, with a 108 Stuff+ and 103 Location+ in 31 IP (6 G/GS). Small samples, but everything moved in the right direction, and stuff metrics and K-BB% stabilize pretty quickly. You’ll take a ~20% K-BB from your fifth starter all day.

David Klein
1 year ago

Mike Vasil showing Megill his grip on his sinker may be a game changer.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 year ago

Megill has the disadvantage of being optionable

Yes — and the question of who has options is probably going to matter… in July or August. But right now, since he has an arm, he’s going to start the season in the majors.

the gulchMember since 2025
1 year ago

I don’t think that’s a given. I don’t know what to make of Canning yet but if he’s fully stretched out as a starter and looks effective this spring, I can see him making the season opening rotation while Megill stays ready in Syracuse. The other 4 in this scenario would be Senga, Peterson, Holmes, and Blackburn.

Reports are saying Blackburn looks healthy and he expects to be ready to go for the start of the season. I’ll believe it when i see it though, his injury/surgery sounded pretty major.

hebrewMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  artkarn

The omission of Megill, who is pretty easy to see as a better pitcher than both Canning and Blackburn, is downright criminal

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  hebrew

This seems much more like a civil offense to me.

Gus
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Pathetic research.

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  hebrew

Maybe just forgetful.

BrianInWI
1 year ago
Reply to  hebrew

Not just Megill. Jose Butto looked solid as a starter last season, and could easily step into the rotation if needed.

AdvancetherunnerMember since 2021
1 year ago

Agree wholeheartedly. The Mets made a mistake by not securing better pitching in the off-season. That the likes of Frankie Montas and Sean Manaea would suffer injuries is beyond foreseeable – and we haven’t played meaningful games yet. The Mets concern has to be that the Braves and the Phillies, who are truly extraordinary baseball teams, start off on a tear, and the Mets find themselves like nine games back in early summer. The Mets may have a stellar second half again, but if they are a wildcard team, their fancy roster does not mean as much in that format. I’m optimistic on the trajectory of the franchise in the years ahead, but they MAY/POSSIBLY have pissed away 2025.

dangledangleMember since 2024
1 year ago

Better pitching does not = healthy pitching

AdvancetherunnerMember since 2021
1 year ago
Reply to  dangledangle

True, but pitching is, in large part, a mathematical play and I think the Mets “Baltimore Oriole-d” themselves a bit with their offseason approach; except I think the Mets are a stronger WS contender THIS YEAR than BAL (far, far, far better top half of lineup). I flat out do not believe in Montas, but think a rotation of (1) trade deadline pick up, (2) Manaea, (3) Senga, (4) Peterson, and (5) Holmes [or slot in Montas where YOU want to and/or anyone else who earns their way in that list during the season] is palatable, but again, if the NYM’s are a wild card team, the road is much steeper, and PHL and ATL are likely to be 2 of the 3/5 best teams in baseball. I did not expect much “love” with my post; so be it.

mattMember since 2023
1 year ago

I do not get the downvotes

WookiesRoarForTheMets
1 year ago

I’m not that concerned. Most years I’d be freaking out. Personally Blackburn has awful splits and should be considered as a bullpen guy IMO. But with MeGill and Canning and however they want to cobble every 5th day for a month I’m not stressed. You don’t need you end of season roster on opening day. I’m content to let Stearns navigate the season to the trade deadline. #LGM

mattMember since 2023
1 year ago

Blackburn is significantly better than canning

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

Seems trendy now to stock up on pitchers and assume that while some will get hurt you’ll have enough depth to carry on, even if some are injury prone. The Mets had three guys with huge question marks about their availability:Kodai Senga (who pitched 5 innings last year?), Clay Holmes (reliever conversion experiment), Paul Blackburn (human injury magnet).

When you go nine deep, I suppose three injury risks are okay to carry. Problem is that now they’re seven deep due to injuries and Senga, Holmes, and Blackburn aren’t either of them. This puts them in the danger zone of going beyond the original 9 guys, which I don’t think I would have predicted.

They’re also in a situation where they probably can’t sign someone like Kyle Gibson because those spots aren’t officially open yet.

I don’t know that there is anything to do but wait. It’s not like signing Jose Urena to a minor league deal represents a meaningful improvement over Brandon Waddell.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It’d be a good subject for actual research, but I suspect a good rule-of-thumb number is more like 11 starters than 9 to make it through a season. Probably not coincidentally, this seems to be about what the Dodgers aim for.

Doug LampertMember since 2016
1 year ago

Last year 317 pitchers started 2 or more games (370 started at least 1, but I’m going to use 2 or more for someone you actually think of as a starter). That rounds to 11 per team, so 11 is a reasonable number.

justschaMember since 2025
1 year ago

Nice job Ben, hit all the points. Dont forget the sucess King had last year as a converted RP. Of the 4 FA pitchers you mentioned, Turnbull has the most interest to me. He has a good mix of pitches (albeit a weak FB) to keep hitters off balance and seemed to do that quite successfully last year. Suprised there isnt any market for him.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  justscha

Turnbull is also the only one who might sign a minor league deal at present.

justschaMember since 2025
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

and has experience in the bullpen where he can be deployed as a long man if needed

david k
1 year ago
Reply to  justscha

Yeah, he was a name that immediately jumped to mind, and was surprised he wasn’t mentioned. The article also leaves out McGill, who is at least a serviceable starter, probably at least as good as Canning, so why leave him out? It seems this article wasn’t particularly well researched or edited.

dangledangleMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  justscha

Turnbull is definitely interesting I was surprised he’s 32.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
1 year ago
Reply to  justscha

Hit on all the points except completely forgetting about Megill

justschaMember since 2025
1 year ago
Reply to  airforce21one

I think Ben, like the Mets, believe Megill is destined for the bullpen.

Idli Amin, The Last King of SambarMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  justscha

I’m not sure the Mets believe that Megill is destined for the bullpen. I remember hearing that they see him as a starter, but more of a five-and-dive guy whom they’d prefer not to go through the lineup a third time. Could be partly because he’s historically had trouble vs. lefties. However, he’s working on getting his curveball to be a whiff pitch, and if he can do so successfully, while also harnessing his splitter, perhaps he can smooth out those platoon splits.

David Klein
1 year ago
Reply to  justscha

I’ve seen nothing to suggest the Mets believe that he’s a reliever.

JimmyMember since 2019
1 year ago

I’ll just throw out that while Manaea was a solid playoff starter with upside last year, I don’t think I’d go that far describing him going forward. I know Mets fans will point to the new Chris Sale-inspired delivery, and maybe he keeps pitching that well going forward, but as of now he’s projected for a 4.15ish FIP on average. That’s the Nick Pivetta territory of “Solid starter with upside who you’d start in the playoffs but feel pretty nervous about.”

Manaea definitely has upside, but he has clear downside too if he goes back to his former self of 2022 or 2023.

slz
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmy

This is a failure of “short-term contracts = good” thinking. If you are a team with money, you are going to be paying someone to play in most positions when a contract ends. You can either sign Juan Soto for a lot of money and a lot of years to play that position or you can sign a bunch of 1 and 2 year deals for players who are very much not Juan Sot for, at first, not a lot of money but probably 15 years from now a lot of money to do the same thing

Manaea was a solid playoff starter with upside last year, yes. He was a guy who couldnt stay in the Giants’ rotation two years ago. But because the Mets gave him a 1+1 deal, he went from making $13M to $25M a year

Then they signed Montas, a 5th starter last year, to a 1+1 where he makes $17M. If he had done the equivalent of what Manaea just did, he’d be making $34M next season. Of course, he wont be, as he’s gonna be out for most of the year and the Mets will likely be absorbing the downside of those 1+1s

Congrats, now you have $42M on the IL. That couldve paid for another Juan Soto

David Klein
1 year ago

Ahh a rite of spring a Mets starter or starters get hurt and that leads to Megill being in the rotation to start the season. I mean at least he should this year as he’s a better rotation option than Canning or Blackburn. The Mets have three days off in the first fifteen days of the season so while they’ll go with a six man rotation most of the year they’ll start the season with a five man rotation. I would have Blackburn be the long man to start the season and Megill and Canning be the last two starters. Sure I’d like them to add another starter but they’re signaling they’re happy with what they’ve got for now.

Last edited 1 year ago by David Klein
Drew106Member since 2026
1 year ago

Megill will be in that rotation. It won’t be both Blackburn and Canning.

Idli Amin, The Last King of SambarMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  Drew106

On a performance and upside basis, Megill SHOULD be ahead of Blackburn and Canning on the depth chart, but he has an option remaining, while those guys don’t. So we shall see.

MikeSMember since 2020
1 year ago

The Mets may not be cursed, but they’re not NOT cursed.

dl80Member since 2026
1 year ago

I still don’t get why they refuse to consider starting Butto. He’s been very good as a starter (in a small sample).

WookiesRoarForTheMets
1 year ago
Reply to  dl80

He was. But he was GREAT as a reliever.

hebrewMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  dl80

He walks way too many guys to be an effective starter

david k
1 year ago
Reply to  hebrew

Huh? I would think that would be worse for a reliever, unless you’re saying it elevates pitch counts and gets him out of the game too early, whereas a reliever only has to pitch one inning?

averagejoe15Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  david k

High walk rates are more tolerable for RPs basically because of risk management.

A pitcher with a high walk rate is more likely to give up a free base to a batter in any given at bat than a pitcher with a low walk rate. Any baserunners increase scoring opportunities for the other team and the risk of walking the next batter is the same (or potentially worse) for a pitcher after a walk so the issue is more likely to compound in any given inning for a high walk rate pitcher.

So a high walk rate pitcher has a greater chance of giving up runs in any given inning or game than a low walk rate pitcher. It would then make sense to expose this player to fewer opportunities to give up runs by limiting his innings and therefore capping the risk.

Now high walk rate pitchers can really only succeed if they pair it with an extreme GB rate or high K-rate. This is a volatile profile and volatile = more risk. So again, it makes sense to limit their exposure in any given game.

There could be some merit to the idea of “momentum” where the volatile, high K RP is on that day and throwing strikes so the risk of letting him pitcher more is reduced (and vice versa if he comes out walking guys) on that day specifically but that starts to mess with roles, player expectations, and health risk.

david k
1 year ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

I don’t know if you will come back and see this at least 5 days after you posted, but I think your description would be more accurate if we were discussing on base average against, and not just walks specifically. Yes, maybe you were going under the assumption that all other things were being equal, and that’s fine. Except that proclivity for giving up runs isn’t necessarily correlated to walk rate, particularly for relievers that have high K rates, that can mitigate the damage of putting runners on base, and since relievers tend to have higher K rates, on average, than starters, for obvious reasons, to me this would probably be the biggest argument in favor of having relievers with high walk rates if they ALSO have high K rates.

But, particularly for setup guys and closers that often pitch in tight games, having a high walk rate just seems like flirting with disaster in those high-leverage situations, when managers can then take advantage of platoon advantages to pinch-hit to drive those free runners in, or use pinch runners to swipe a base after a walk.

I’ve pretty much talked around all sides of this, and can see some reasons why a high walk pitcher would be better as a starter, or maybe better as a reliever, but with all the other factors involved that I mentioned, I feel that there isn’t really a clear advantage one way or the other.

Roman AjzenMember since 2020
1 year ago

The Mets built a rotation like LA’s but without the absurd depth that allowed LA to pull it off last year. If I were them, I’d rather take a page out of the Tigers’ playbook and make sure they have one stud to stabilize the rotation as they mix and match around him. That may have been the plan with Manaea, given his fairly good health history but it hasn’t panned out so far. Not sure they need to make an all-in move for someone like Cease, but it wouldn’t hurt.

LouisMember since 2024
1 year ago

You’re quite right that a number of somewhat prominent relievers have recently turned into more prominent starters, and to your list could be added Michael King and Seth Lugo (two seasons ago). I accordingly find it surprising that with the excception of Holmes and, arguably Michael Soroka, no team seems to have a former reliever in their projected starting five this season.

David Klein
1 year ago
Reply to  Louis

There were reports of teams being interested in Hoffman as a starter and he even signed with the Braves to start until the deal fell apart due to his medicals.

WookiesRoarForTheMets
1 year ago
Reply to  Louis

Crotchett

david k
1 year ago
Reply to  Louis

Lugo wasn’t really a converted reliever. He was essentially a starter that got relegated to the bullpen for a while. I always thought he was wasted in the pen when he was with the Mets.

JoeyVottoIsGoneMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  Louis

Michael Lorenzen

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
1 year ago

Never mind.

Last edited 1 year ago by Mitchell Moore
Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
1 year ago

Doesn’t bother me a lick, but I believe the Mets are so far over the threshold that even an $8m, 1 yr deal with someone would cost them ~$20m in total with penalties. That’s couch cushion money to Cohen, but worth mentioning still imo (also, Lynn looked totally cooked *two* yrs as a starter with LA and is being floated as a reliever)

Last edited 1 year ago by Smiling Politely
Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 year ago

Yeah, this more than anything else probably explains why they haven’t signed someone like Quintana already just to be on the safe side.

royhobbs7
1 year ago

Stearns/Mets sign Manaea, Montas, Canning and Holmes as FA starting pitchers this winter. Dodgers sign Sasaki & Snell with two top closers (Yates & Scott). I understand that the Mets never had a chance at signing Sasaki. But Nuf said!!!
Stearns couldn’t sign a better SP than Montas??????

illardfillmoreMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  royhobbs7

The Montas decision seems particularly odd. Waiting a bit longer could’ve gotten Flaherty at a similar contract.

stkahlaMember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  illardfillmore

Pretty sure Flaherty makes 25 million this year (20 salary and 5 signing bonus) with a player option for 10 million. Not worlds apart but I think the difference is meaningful.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  illardfillmore

Every club that hasn’t signed Montas is convinced they can fix him; every club that has, well…

mike sixelMember since 2016
1 year ago

As a Twins fan, I feel they should trade for Paddock…..

WookiesRoarForTheMets
1 year ago
Reply to  mike sixel

Oof he’d cost 15 mil in salary alone (CBT) plus whatever we send. I’d almost day get Castillo or Fedde for that money. I don’t want to part with Acuna or whoever else the padres want for Cease. Maybe see if Cleveland will part with Cecconi at a discount as he doesn’t seem to be on track for a rotation spot

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

If all it takes to get Cease is Acuna they should do it and not think twice.

Brandon Sproat is should be off limits and Jett Williams is probably only available in a few situations. But Acuna? In a deal for Cease?! They would do that a million times over if they could.

WookiesRoarForTheMets
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I believe the Padres stated (4) top prospects so it would would be Acuna, Williams, Tidwell, Gilbert or some other combination.

That is steap. Especially if we believe Cohens initiall thought of spend the first couple years to become relevant and pivot to developing talent and supplementing it with stars acquired via FA . I don’t think trades involving gutting the system are a palatable approach for this front office

mike sixelMember since 2016
1 year ago

I didn’t say it was a good idea for the mets…. 🙂

derpinmetsdanMember since 2024
1 year ago

Christian Scott is another up and comer that will hopefully be ready by the second half. There are definitely some other options if sh!t hits the fan. But it is too early to tell what will happen in the season. This is just another ST injury that naturally occurs for any team.

David Klein
1 year ago
Reply to  derpinmetsdan

Scott had Tommy John surgery last Summer and Stearns already said that Scott won’t pitch this year.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 year ago
Reply to  David Klein

Yep. I’m already looking forward to seeing Scott in 2026, but there’s no way.

wOBHey!
1 year ago

Catalina Wine Mixer!

Youppi!
1 year ago

Marcus Stroman is available. He doesn’t even need a flight!

Last edited 1 year ago by Youppi!
Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 year ago
Reply to  Youppi!

Too bad he’ll never sign with a New York team because of… uh… racism?

FickbohmMember since 2017
1 year ago

Just the reason we needed to finally trade McNeil. Swap him with a 5th starter somehwere (SWR, Civale, etc) and give 2B to Acuna

David Klein
1 year ago
Reply to  Fickbohm

Who wants to take on that contract though? Not the Twins or the Rays.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
1 year ago
Reply to  David Klein

I have totally forgotten how this works but is there less of a CBT payroll hit on money that goes to pay down the contract of a traded player? If that’s the case it’s possible he might cost less to trade than to play.

FickbohmMember since 2017
1 year ago
Reply to  David Klein

Definitely a road block. Not a fan of the habit of paying part of the salary to get a trade done but might be a case where it makes sense with only 2 years left (fingers crossed)

Kenneth KitchinMember since 2020
1 year ago

Fedde seems like an obvious choice. Asking price is probably pretty high, though.

mattMember since 2023
1 year ago

I believe the mets have a steady bit of 4/5 types. Oblique injuries have tendency to hurt performance when players do return. All that being said about mets rotation depth, the only decent front of rotation guess is senga and he is obviously coming off a series injury. Stearns being so conservative in sp market and expecting to flop a straight again will likely bite them