The Padres Might Actually Pull This Off

David Frerker-USA TODAY Sports

It’s been a good week for the Padres. As usual, president of baseball operations A.J. Preller was busy ahead of the trade deadline, and while this year’s additions weren’t as eye-catching as the 2022 trade for Juan Soto — what on earth possibly could be? — Preller greatly improved a middling bullpen and additionally fortified a thin rotation, damn the cost of the prospects dealt along the way. Meanwhile, the Padres increased their chances of reaching the playoffs by taking a pair of games from the Dodgers in San Diego, wins that not only pulled them closer to first place than they’ve been since early May, but also clinched them the season series between the two teams, giving them the potential tiebreaker if they were to finish with the same record as Los Angeles. All of this, along with the fact that the Padres have one of the league’s easiest remaining schedules, gives them their best shot at pulling off an NL West upset since Preller took the reins late in the 2014 season.

On Tuesday, hours after the team added relievers Tanner Scott and Bryan Hoeing from the Marlins and starter Martín Pérez from the Pirates, the Padres rallied to overcome the five first-inning runs that the Dodgers hung on starter Matt Waldron. Down 5-3 entering the bottom of the ninth, Manny Machado and Jackson Merrill both homered off Blake Treinen, and after Robert Suarez buzzsawed through the Dodgers on 10 pitches in the top of the 10th, Donovan Solano’s bases-loaded single plated the winning run. On Wednesday, the Padres tagged Clayton Kershaw for seven runs (three earned) in his second start since returning from shoulder surgery; San Diego even snapped Kershaw’s major league record of 423 consecutive starts with a strikeout.

The wins gave the Padres a 9-1 record over their last 10 games; they strung together a season-high seven-game winning streak against the Guardians, Nationals, and Orioles from July 20–27, a span that included Dylan Cease’s no-hitter on July 25. With a 13-9 record for July on the heels of a 16-11 May and 15-13 June, San Diego has now put together winning records in three straight months, something it failed to do last year. (That team couldn’t even manage back-to-back winning months.) What’s more, the Padres sent the Dodgers to their first losing month (11-13) since April 2018 and trimmed the division lead to 4.5 games, the smallest it’s been since May 4, which coincidentally was the day they traded for Luis Arraez.

So, are the Padres for real? They entered Friday with a 59-51 record, one game behind the Braves (59-49) for the NL’s top Wild Card spot but only a half-game ahead of the Diamondbacks (58-51) and a game ahead of the Mets (57-51). Yet it’s necessary to point out that this has been a streaky team all season, one that’s struggled to escape the gravitational pull of .500. Cherrypicking a few dates, the Padres were 9-9 on April 14, 18-18 on May 4, 28-28 on May 26, 35-35 on June 10, 40-40 on June 21, and 50-50 on July 19 before going on their current jag. They even hid another 9-1 run in that forest of .500 records, from June 19–29; that lifted them from 37-40 to 46-41. Compare their trajectory to this point to that of the Braves:

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The take-home point is that the Braves have been comfortably above .500 all season long, whereas the Padres rarely have been. Prior to June 26, their 85th game of the season, they finished the day further than two games away from .500 in either direction just five times, then slipped back in that zone from July 10–21.

I do think there are reasons to be optimistic about the Padres going forward. They’ve spent most of the season underperforming their projected winning percentages, sometimes by about 30 points, but their current .536 mark is just four points shy of their .540 Pythagenpat and seven points shy of their .543 BaseRuns mark. While they’ve been without Fernando Tatis Jr. since June 21 due to a stress reaction in his right femur, the rest of their lineup has rounded into shape. For the first four weeks of the season, Machado was confined to designated hitter duty while he continued to recover from October surgery to repair the extensor tendon in his right elbow. Manager Mike Shildt primarily used light-hitting Tyler Wade as his third baseman, with Graham Pauley and the more productive Eguy Rosario getting time as well. The group hit just .228/.291/.316 (79 wRC+) in that span, and Machado himself hit just .241/.293/.361 (89 wRC+) through the end of May, but he’s raked at a more representative .298/.347/.517 (141 wRC+) clip since, with 11 of his 16 home runs coming in the past two months, including two on Tuesday night.

Meanwhile, Xander Bogaerts hit just .212/.265/.316 (68 wRC+) before suffering a fracture in his left shoulder while diving for a ball on May 24. Since returning to the lineup on July 12, he’s been absolutely on fire (.453/.464/.623, 206 wRC+), collecting multiple hits in eight out of 13 games and going hitless just once; the spree has lifted his season wRC+ to 99. Arraez has hit for a 109 wRC+ while splitting time between first and DH, Donovan Solano, another early-May addition, has hit for a 121 wRC+ since joining the team, and both Ha-Seong Kim (102 wRC+) and Jake Cronenworth (109 wRC+) have been above average as well.

The only place where the Padres are not getting better-than-average production of late is the David Peralta/Bryce Johnson platoon in right field. Tatis has been cleared for light baseball activity but has no timeline yet for his return, and while Preller couldn’t offer one on Tuesday, he did say, “Every report I’ve gotten has been really positive.”

Preller’s big focus ahead of the deadline was in fortifying a bullpen that currently ranks 10th in the NL with a 4.07 ERA and fifth with a 3.74 FIP. Scott, arguably the best closer and best lefty available at the deadline, posted a 1.18 ERA and 3.25 FIP with a 29.1% strikeout rate in 45.2 innings for the Marlins, while righty Jason Adam, acquired from the Rays on Monday, put up a 2.49 ERA and 3.36 FIP with a 27.8% strikeout rate in 47 innings before the trade. With Suaraz doing just fine as the closer, Scott and Adam have slotted into setup roles, bumping the rest of the team’s relievers down in the pecking order, with Hoeing (2.70 ERA and 3.26 FIP in 30 innings for the Marlins) taking over as the long man. As ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez noted, Scott, Adam, Suarez, and the previous pair of setup men, Jeremiah Estrada and Adrian Morejon, have combined to hold hitters to a .183/.260/.285 slash line. To make room for the newcomers, Stephen Kolek was placed on the IL with elbow tendinitis, Logan Gillaspie was optioned to Triple-A El Paso, Enyel De Los Santos was traded to the Yankees, and Austin Davis (the lone lefty of the group) was designated for assignment; those four pitchers had combined for -0.2 WAR over 112.1 innings, with Kolek the only one in the black. So that’s a significant upgrade.

If there’s a criticism to be made of Preller’s deadline performance — beyond the usual I-can’t-believe-he-traded-all-those-prospects ones and his not making hypothetical deals for players who proved out of reach for every team (hello, Luis Robert Jr.) — it’s that he didn’t do more for the rotation. Cease has been excellent, as has Michael King following a rough first month, and Waldron has shown that he and his knuckleball are more than a novelty act. Still, the current starting five has been without both Yu Darvish and Joe Musgrove since both landed on the IL on June 1. Pérez, an All-Star two years ago for the Rangers, has reverted to his journeyman form, pitching to a 5.20 ERA and 4.95 FIP in 83 innings for the Pirates. He can turn in five innings every fifth day, which is something Adam Mazur — who was traded to the Marlins in the Scott deal — wasn’t doing; the 23-year-old rookie totaled 33.2 innings with a 7.49 ERA and 6.22 FIP over eight starts, only two of which lasted longer than 4.2 innings. For the short term, Pérez raises the floor, but he’s not somebody who should take the ball in October.

Darvish, who posted a 3.20 ERA and 3.52 FIP through his first 11 starts, was initially sidelined by a groin strain and hasn’t pitched since. His return was slowed by a bout of elbow inflammation in late June, and then on July 6 he was placed on the restricted list as he left the Padres for what the team explained was “a personal matter involving his family.” The Padres hope he’ll return this season but currently there’s no timetable; Shildt said at the time that Darvish’s absence would be indefinite and offered little more in the way of details. “Clearly we want to respect his privacy. He wants to make sure everybody knows he’s physically in a good spot. He’s still working on his craft,” said Shildt, adding, “The primary thing… that we want to do is just make sure Yu feels loved and supported by his Padre family.”

Musgrove was sidelined by right elbow and triceps discomfort, but unlike Darvish, he was not pitching well, as his 5.66 ERA and 5.35 FIP attest. It was his second time on the IL in as many months, as he missed about half of May due to elbow inflammation; soon enough, the underlying cause — a bone spur and a bone bruise in his right elbow — was discovered, and he received injections of cortisone and platelet-rich plasma. He’s scheduled to go out on a rehab assignment on Sunday, but it’s an open question as to whether he’ll resemble the top-of-the-rotation version of himself when he returns to the Padres.

For as flimsy as the rotation has looked on paper without Darvish and Musgrove, and with Randy Vásquez filling in one of the other spots while averaging less than five innings per turn himself, San Diego starters have posted the NL’s second-lowest ERA (3.89) and fourth-lowest FIP (3.83) since the start of June; their 4.6 WAR is second in that span, a pretty impressive feat. Preller reportedly explored trades for Garrett Crochet, Jack Flaherty, Yusei Kikuchi, and even old friend Blake Snell, but with top prospects Ethan Salas and Leodalis De Vries said to be off-limits, it doesn’t sound as though discussions went deep, and anyway, from that group only Flaherty and Kikuchi were dealt.

That the former went to the Dodgers and rated as the rare impact move this deadline is a potential problem for the Padres. Indeed, the Dodgers didn’t sit still, additionally adding Tommy Edman, Amed Rosario, and Michael Kopech, all of whom at least help the team shore up depth that’s been compromised by a slew of injuries and underperformances. In Dan Szymborski’s post-deadline ZiPS check-in, the Padres increased their odds of making the playoffs by 3.2% (from 59.7% to 62.9%), but the Dodgers did so by 2.7% (from 93.6% to 96.3%). Considering that the Dodgers are the ones in first place and have an easier potential path through the postseason should they hang on to the division lead, their odds of winning the World Series went up by 2.4% while those of San Diego fell by 0.1%. Meanwhile, the Mets and Braves outgained the Padres by both measures.

As for the players Preller did trade, 2022 first-round pick Dylan Lesko, a 20-year-old righty who was sent to Tampa Bay in the Adam deal, was one of just four 50 FV prospects dealt by Eric Longenhagen’s reckoning, while the 23-year-old Mazur and 20-year-old Robby Snelling, who both went to Miami, are 40+ FV prospects. Lesko and Snelling are too far from the majors to help this year’s squad, and Mazur fell short in his opportunity. Preller, who has a contract through 2026, is still regarded as being on the hot seat given last year’s crash and burn, so he wasn’t in a position to wait. Besides, he’s not one given to prospect-hugging anyway. Via Gonzalez:

“One thing we’ve never been scared of — we’re going to trade players,” Preller said. “I don’t know philosophically if it’s right, wrong — we’re going to trade players, they’re going to show up in the big leagues… and are going to do really good things. But if we get what we’re looking to do, and it works for us this year and over the next three to five years, we’re content with that.

“Billy Beane… would always tell me, ‘I’ve traded All-Stars, MVPs, Cy Young winners, and 20 years later we’ve done a lot of winning and we’re still in this spot.’ We take it like we’re going to trade talented players; that’s a compliment to our scouting group, honestly, and our development group.”

It may work out for Preller this year. Per our Playoff Odds, the Padres’ 71.6% chance at reaching the postseason and 14.4% chance of winning the division are both higher than they’ve been since mid-May 2023, and a quick perusal of our historical graphs shows that they haven’t had division odds this high this late in the season since Preller took over in August 2014. Sure, last year’s loaded squad might have been more eye-catching thanks to Soto and Snell, but this one has a real chance to make good on all of that wheeling and dealing.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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MichaelMember since 2016
1 year ago

They’ve kinda leveraged the future with long extensions and trading their prospects so I hope they do better than a third wild card

Raphie CantorMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael

Just wait until 2026 when Preller has already re-stocked the farm and the Padres yet again “trade away all their prospects” as they have every two seasons. AJ’s bet is so long as their are financially hamstrung teams out there who don’t want to pay Arb 2/3 years, there’s a trade to be made for major league talent. If he keeps drafting and signing international players the way he has, it’s a plan so crazy it just might work.

dontcare
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael

They’re looking pretty good through next year with Profar, Kim, and Scott as the only FAs. Things will get dicey again in 2026 with (assuming) Cease and King departing and Yu, Machado, and Bogaerts another year older. Clearly, the organization prioritizes present value, but they still seem to keep their favorite prospects and it’s working for them. Who knows how long this lasts, but after a decade and a half of watching a rudderless team that once anointed Chase Headley as its savior, I’ll take the inevitable comedown.

Last edited 1 year ago by dontcare
dontcare
1 year ago

I think the only way the Padres will pass the Dodgers is in the next two weeks before the rosters return to full strength. It’s going to be difficult with Perez and Vasquez in the starting rotation, and it looks like they might skip King’s next start (I’m hoping Waldron can gut it out a bit longer with the less stressful pitches). I like the Hoeing pickup for that reason; I assume he will be their next project similar to King and Lugo (maybe even as soon as this year). There’s still a good chunk of the season left, and it’s hard to predict how Musgrove will perform after 2 injury-riddled years and if Darvish returns, but the team reminds me a lot of the 2015 Royals (as do the Guardians).

Also, how wild is it that the Dbacks are flying under the radar this much? I half expect SD and LA to be looking up to AZ at some point during this race.

Last edited 1 year ago by dontcare
Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  dontcare

I’m wondering when Montgomery and Rodriguez will contribute if they will

dontcare
1 year ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

I haven’t been following the Dbacks too closely, but surely it’s better to have a chance at arms returning this year than nothing at all.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
1 year ago

I’m just here waiting for some more “Luis Arraez is Tony Gwynn in 2024” comments.

Paging sticka, dezre, dbmin, tbwhite67, David Laurila. You guys still think Luis Arraez is basically Tony Gwynn?

Last edited 1 year ago by airforce21one
96mncMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Arraez has been playing through a wrist/hand injury. Prior to that I think he was around 330.

sticka
1 year ago
Reply to  airforce21one

I don’t recall ever making that claim. I made the claim that their early career hitting lines were similar and that remains accurate.

By the way, I’m a Padres fan who grew up idolizing Gwynn.

dezreMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Yeah I never said that. I do remember sarcastically calling you “fun” because you rudely shot down the comparison. Seeing as you’ve compiled a supposed vengeance list of commenter names, I think my initial impression was pretty spot on. Like whoa, dude. Good luck to you!

PC1970Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  airforce21one

airforce 21 keeping receipts!

Long memory on this guy.

connjc
1 year ago

I think this is just as much of an indictment on how bad the Dodgers have been playing as it is a celebration of how well the Padres have been playing. Dodgers starting pitching has been poor which put a ton of strain on the bullpen and now its starting to break down as you would expect. And that lineup is pretty bad outside of Ohtani. They had Lux batting 3rd lately. That’s how bad its been.

connjc
1 year ago
Reply to  connjc

Interesting. Lots of downvotes but no one wants to say why. What’s not true about what I said?

96mncMember since 2020
1 year ago

I don’t think they’ll catch the Dodgers in the regular season assuming the Dodgers get a few of their guys currently out back within a couple of weeks.

But they have a roster and team built to thrive in the post season.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  96mnc

Not unless they can survive with a 2 man rotation. They need Darvish and Musgrove

dontcare
1 year ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Padres can probably cobble together a credible #3 with Waldron and Hoeing, too.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

Padres were always a sleeper. It’s got good to elite hitters at virtually every position. They need Darvish back and pitching well to make a major run but if that’s the case they will have a solid top 4 starters and a deep lineup and bullpen.

As for catching the Dodgers, it’s not crazy. They have injuries everywhere, their plan for a couple of positions has not gone well, and a 4.5 game deficit isn’t that big. But it’s going to require the Padres outplaying the Dodgers by a lot *and* the D-Backs by a little. That’s a tall order.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Arizona and LA could have 4 starters as well. It could be that the one who actually gets them wins out in the postseason.

RMD4
1 year ago

The Padres made multiple in-season trades with the Marlins and who knows, maybe lightning will strike like the 2003 Cubs who did the same thing to add three former Pirates in their starting lineup? They too could have their heart ripped out in the NLCS 🙂

shultz
1 year ago

Everybody cheered on the Soto trade. Who thought a run at the world series with Soto for a year or two wasn’t worth C.J. Abrams, MacKenzie Gore, and James Wood at the time? The Padres didn’t get to the series, and, in hindsight, that was a terrible trade that will continue to get worse over time.

But I’m not sure Preller should be judged by how many prospects he traded in the few seasons prior to this one. That may have been driven by an owner who knew he only had a couple of years left to live–and insisted on selling prospects short and spending money like there was no tomorrow.

We’ll see how Lesko and Snelling pan out. I didn’t expect the Padres to get better after shedding salary, and I don’t think that happened by accident.

RMD4
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

I disagree. That trade had the effect of truly invigorating a franchise. The same thing happened when Milwaukee made a big trade to get CC Sabathia and that became a complete game changer for the team and the city. Milwaukee hadn’t made the playoffs in 26 years until that trade. The Padres hadn’t hosted a playoff crowd in 16 years – until the Soto trade.

In their playoff run in 2008 Milwaukee drew 3 million in attendance for the first time in franchise history. And, building on that energy, they then drew 3 million again the next year despite having a losing record and the economy crumbling. Putting investment on the major league level gave a reason for a small market to care. And let me tell ya, small markets love money being spent on their team even more than big market teams do.

After the Soto trade, the Padres finished 2nd and now 3rd in the league in attendance despite being the only MLB market that is too small to support an NFL or NBA team. The ripples of the Soto trade are felt every night in front of packed crowds. That trade was the jolt of energy that the franchise needed.

Sure the CC trade meant that Cleveland got Michael Brantley, who made the All-Star team several times for them. But Milwaukee makes that trade every time even though it only got them as far as Game 4 of the NLDS. San Diego also makes that same trade because they went from an overrated, losing record team in 2021 to a team that regularly hosts capacity crowds, a far cry from the last pre-pandemic year when they finished 10th in attendance. Trades aren’t all about WAR differential. The Soto trade changed the franchise. Just like the 3 months of CC for 7 years of Michael Brantley.

shultz
1 year ago
Reply to  RMD4

Padres Average Attendance:

2021: 27,061
2022: 36,882
2023: 40,389

I’ll concede that attendance jumped in the same year as the Soto trade in 2022. We should beware the cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. I think the jump in attendance was about how well the Padres were playing before Soto showed up–and sustained in 2023 because they beat the Mets and the Dodgers in the 2022 playoffs on the way the 2022 NLCS. That meant big expectations for 2023 in an affluent town without a professional basketball, hockey, or football team. T

Those expectations were driving interest in the team in 2022 before Soto came to San Diego, and I think Tatis and Machado were still the biggest draws for ticket sales.

I’m looking a list of the top selling MLB jerseys in 2023.

Machado was #17 on the list of top 20 jersey sales in 2023, and Tatis was #4. Soto didn’t even make the list of the top 20. FWIW, this is consistent with my observations at the games. Soto shirts were relatively rare, and Machado and Tatis shirts were everywhere. The effect you’re talking about may explain why Preller extended Machado instead of Soto–maybe it was to keep the fans buying tickets.

Meanwhile, riddle me this: How bright would the Padres’ future look if they had C.J. Abrams, MacKenzie Gore, and James Wood instead of King right now?

tbwhite67Member since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

Well the real combined Soto and associated deals are:
Abrams, Gore, Wood, Hassell, Iriarte, Grisham, Susana, Zavala, Wilson
for
Cease, King, Vasquez, Brito, Higashioka, Josh Bell(2022 only)

It’s hard to imagine the 2024 team being relevant right now without Cease, King, Vasquez and Higashioka. Abrams has nowhere to play. Wood we’ll see about. Gore has a 1.50 WHIP and a 4.50 ERA, not sure how much we are missing that.

shultz
1 year ago
Reply to  tbwhite67

1) Here’s the Soto deal:

Padres get: OF Juan Soto, 1B Josh Bell

Nationals get: SS C.J. Abrams, LHP MacKenzie Gore, 1B Luke Voit, OF Robert Hassell III (Padres’ No. 1 prospect/No. 21 overall), OF James Wood (Padres’ No. 3/No. 88 overall), RHP Jarlin Susana (Padres’ No. 14)

2) Here’s the Cease deal:

Padres get: Dylan Cease

White Sox get: Drew Thorpe, Jairo Iriarte and Samuel Zavala and big league reliever Steven Wilson.

So help me understand why the Cease deal couldn’t or wouldn’t have happened if the Padres hadn’t traded for Soto.

Meanwhile, even with Musgrove’s injury issues and Darvish’s personal issues aside (both unforeseen), I’d rather have had Gore than Vasquez going forward.

Even in hindsight, Vasquez has a 1.53 WHIP, a 4.62 ERA, and I think Gore probably has a higher ceiling going forward from here. Oh, and could the Padres have resigned Lugo or signed someone else sans Soto’s salary?

tbwhite67Member since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

Who replaces Thorpe in the Cease deal? The bloom was off Susana by the time the deal was made.

I understand that Gore still has some of that new car/hot prospect stank left on him, but in terms of MLB performance Vasquez has been a better pitcher and that is despite terrible BABIP luck this year. Although I suppose Gore has suffered from that as well.

Lanidrac
1 year ago
Reply to  RMD4

I don’t know if “too small” is the right choice of words, but St. Louis doesn’t have an NFL or NBA team, either, although at least they have an NHL team.

96mncMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

“That may have been driven by an owner who knew he only had a couple of years left to live–and insisted on selling prospects short and spending money like there was no tomorrow”

That’s part of it. But Preller has always been willing to trade prospects for more proven talent because he knows that he and his team of scouts can always find more.

Also, we never got to see how good the Padres could have been with Soto because of Tatis’ behavior.

dontcare
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

I wouldn’t say Soto was a terrible trade. Pre-arb Grandal for breaking-down Kemp being paid $20M/yr? Terrible. River Ryan for Matt Beaty? Terrible. But Soto for Adams/Gore/Wood (ignoring Hassell III and delaying judgement of Susana for now) is not something that bothers me. Washington unequivocally wins the WAR, but I always think this is a terrible metric to evaluate trades. Different teams have different budget concerns, roster needs, excess prospects at certain positions, etc.

Put another way:

I would not trade 1.5 years of King for 3.5 years of Gore. I hate hate hate FIP-based WAR that would claim that Gore barely averaging 5 innings a start is roughly as valuable as King because of good fly ball fortune. Ludicrous.

I’m neutral on trading 1.5 years of Higashioka for 4.5 years of Abrams. Higgy is 34 and definitely having an unsustainable career year, but Abrams still has a bad glove and his offense has been extremely streaky this year. I really value having a quality backup/1-B catcher.

Wood for Thorpe/Vazquez/Brito is an easy win for Wood.

96mncMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  dontcare

I’d rather have Abrams pretty easily. He’s not a finished product yet and it’s entirely possible and probably likely that if he was still with SD he’d be an OF or 2b at this point.

dontcare
1 year ago
Reply to  96mnc

That’s a good point. To Abrams’ credit, he has been +9 DRS over his last 2100 innings at short, so maybe the glove takes a jump forward like the bat did this year. I’d certainly rather have Profar/Merrill/Tatis in the OF over Abrams in the short term, but only Profar was in the Padres’ (tentative) OF plans at the time of the trade. Would I rather have Abrams at 2B without Bogaerts’ contract so the Padres could’ve resigned Lugo? Absolutely.

jayman4Member since 2018
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

Agree on Seidler’s influence. As much as he is venerated by Padres fan (with justification), am willing to give Preller a partial pass on his often idiotic win-now moves: Nola, Clevinger, Hosmer, 2016. Soto was painful but understandable; dude is the best hitters in baseball and the trade dumping him is looking pretty sweet, though not as good as what we gave Washington.

He is quite good at prospects and seemed extraordinarily ham fisted at MLB level players in a way that confused me. The assessing the former seems much harder than the latter.

He has a lot of stuff to unwind but starting to be hopeful he might be able to keep re-tooling without it all falling apart. Anxious about Xander and Machado in the later years of their contracts but makes pulling for the current team not feel like the last embers of a failed experiment at building a bonfire in San Diego.

warpath
1 year ago

I think it’s likely the Dodgers or Padres win the division. But the D-Backs are also lurking right there, and have been playing much better lately…

speedy
1 year ago

I’m no expert graph reader like the stock market but the Padres definitely trending up with new Highs and Braves breaking new lows.
When they had Soto, their weak spot was the bullpen. They had great starters. So it’s interesting to see them pivot. And this year’s team is more exciting to watch than with Soto.
For me Soto can be boring to watch working long counts and walking. I’d rather watch a Reggie Jackson at bat with him swinging for the fences or striking out. Reggie was entertaining either way. He knew that and he could’ve walked more but he thrilled the home crowds( when they visited the Angels or wherever) by striking out or hitting a homer. He was a showman.

shultz
1 year ago
Reply to  speedy

The exciting additions to the bats were Profar (an “irrelevant” nobody else wanted), Jackson Merrill (a rookie who was only pressed into playing for a lack of outfielders), and Arraez (a guy anybody might have traded middling prospects for in May).

Understanding how the Padres got better by subtraction, we need to look at intangibles like team chemistry and management. Some say Soto was a team chemistry issue, and as much as I respect Melvin, the team seems to be better off without him.

They shed millions in salary, lose Soto and Snell, and they get better (and more exciting)? At some point, we need to give Preller props.

tbwhite67Member since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

Melvin was/is a dope, at least when it comes to managing bullpens. With a competent manager and just bad luck, instead of god-awful bad luck, last year’s team wins 85-86 games and makes the playoffs instead of the Diamondbacks. This year’s team isn’t really better, they just have normal luck and a good manager. They are certainly more fun to watch without Soto, the dude was a buzz kill.

shultz
1 year ago
Reply to  tbwhite67

I have a working hypothesis that Melvin is excellent at getting the best out of mediocre players and maybe not so good at managing established superstars.

tbwhite67Member since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

I think that may be true also. But his bullpen management is atrocious.

MLB save % usually runs around low to mid 60% at the team level. Giants this year 55% vs 62% for league, Padres last year 56% vs 62%, A’s in 2022 58% vs 64%, in 2021 58% vs 60%, in 2019 58% vs 62%, you have to go back to 2018 to find a year where Melvin’s save % exceeded the league average.

96mncMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  tbwhite67

Nailed it.

96mncMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  shultz

Melvin is the most overrated manager of the last 40 years.