Let’s Sign Some Contracts, 2024 Edition

Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports

Spending money can be a lot of fun, but spending someone else’s money is even better. And that’s exactly what we’re doing today!

About a month into the season is typically when I look at some of the players who are prime extension candidates and the possible deals they might work out with their teams. As usual, the contracts here are not necessarily what I would offer the players or what they will get, but what the mean, cold-hearted projections think would amount to a fair agreement. For each player, I’ve included their ZiPS projections with the latest model updates.

Elly De La Cruz, Cincinnati Reds (Nine years, $192 million)

It’s going to be a long time until Elly De La Cruz is eligible for free agency, but if the Reds wish to signal to the fans that the best players they develop will be in Cincinnati for longer than their middle arbitration years, ownership is going to have to make a real commitment to one of them at some point. And who is a better option than De La Cruz? I would have said Matt McLain a few months ago, but his major shoulder surgery makes it a risky time for both team and player to come to a meeting of the minds on a future dollar figure. De La Cruz still has issues making contact, but his plate discipline has continued to improve since his debut. He’s drawing a lot more walks this year and he’s actually been better than the average major leaguer at not chasing pitches. And with better plate discipline should come more power because a greater percentage of his swings will come against pitches that he can actually drive.

As you can see below, he wouldn’t need to exceed his 50th percentile projections for home runs by much to secure a 40/40 season. In fact, after hitting his eighth home run of the year Monday night, De La Cruz is currently on pace for 45 homers and an absurd 101 steals this season — and he still has a lot of polishing left to do. He’s also showing he’s far from a defensive liability at shortstop, even though a healthy McLain is still probably preferable there. This contract buys out some of De La Cruz’s early free agency years and gives him a big wad of guaranteed dough.

ZiPS Projection – Elly De La Cruz
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .250 .320 .462 569 103 142 26 7 27 94 57 187 48 106 -2 3.2
2026 .253 .326 .472 589 109 149 28 7 29 101 62 182 49 110 -2 3.8
2027 .258 .333 .485 594 113 153 30 6 31 105 65 176 47 115 -2 4.2
2028 .258 .336 .488 592 116 153 30 5 32 106 67 169 43 116 -1 4.3
2029 .258 .337 .488 590 116 152 30 5 32 105 69 166 40 117 -1 4.3
2030 .255 .336 .482 589 116 150 30 4 32 104 70 164 36 115 -1 4.1
2031 .255 .336 .483 588 115 150 30 4 32 104 70 164 34 115 -2 4.0
2032 .257 .339 .484 572 112 147 29 4 31 101 69 161 31 116 -3 4.0
2033 .255 .336 .476 573 110 146 29 4 30 100 68 162 29 114 -3 3.6

Corbin Burnes, Baltimore Orioles (Eight years, $210 million)

If you’ve been following my work for a while now, you surely know I’m an Orioles fan. And like many other Baltimore fans, I remember the moment when I became unhappy with the ownership of the late Peter Angelos. My feelings toward him soured because of how he and the Orioles handled their free agent negotiations with Mike Mussina. After Moose had previously taken a hometown discount, the O’s assumed he would continue to pitch for them at a below-market rate, and as a result, they lowballed him the next time he was eligible for free agency. He declined, leading to the second-best pitcher in team history finishing his career wearing Yankee pinstripes and ensuring that his Hall of Fame plaque wouldn’t have an ornithologically correct bird on the cap.

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While I still think the team should lock up Grayson Rodriguez long term, it’s far more urgent< for the O’s to extend Corbin Burnes, given that he hits free agency after the season. No better pitcher will be available this winter, and nobody in the minors anywhere, for any team, is a safe bet to be better than Burnes over the next five or six years. New owner David Rubinstein has said all the right things, and he made a nice gesture when he bought everyone at Pickles a round of drinks, but the best way to show that he’s serious about building a perennial contender is to not let his team’s ace sign elsewhere. Given the O’s have just about nothing in the way of financial obligations, there’s no reason not to extend him. If that means paying more than that figure above, so be it.

ZiPS Projection – Corbin Burnes
Year W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
2025 11 7 3.27 30 30 187.0 145 68 18 53 207 125 4.2
2026 11 7 3.40 29 29 177.3 141 67 17 50 191 120 3.8
2027 10 6 3.51 27 27 169.3 139 66 17 48 177 117 3.5
2028 9 7 3.66 26 26 157.3 134 64 17 45 159 112 3.0
2029 9 6 3.79 24 24 152.0 135 64 17 44 148 108 2.6
2030 8 6 4.03 22 22 140.7 130 63 17 42 132 102 2.1
2031 7 6 4.18 20 20 125.0 119 58 16 40 115 98 1.6

Bo Bichette, Toronto Blue Jays (Seven years, $151 million)

Let’s be clear, despite his uncharacteristic struggles so far this season, I think Bo Bichette will command more than $151 million, and while the Blue Jays may balk any amount greater than that figure, they should still be willing to pay him whatever it takes to keep him around for the bulk of his career. Because of his position and his consistency (again, his first month of this season notwithstanding), Bichette has emerged as the best scion of a baseball family in Toronto, and time’s running out to extend bounty hunter Boba Chette before he hits free agency after the 2025 campaign. I actually think he’ll age better than ZiPS does, at least offensively. Either way, shortstops get super expensive if you wait until they hit the open market. That means that now’s the time for the Blue Jays to extend him if they’re going to keep him, even if that means going over this projected offer to ensure he doesn’t reach free agency.

ZiPS Projection – Bo Bichette
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .292 .333 .462 599 82 175 32 2 22 88 35 121 8 120 -4 3.5
2026 .288 .329 .457 598 81 172 31 2 22 87 35 119 7 117 -4 3.3
2027 .282 .325 .447 589 78 166 30 2 21 84 36 117 6 113 -4 2.9
2028 .278 .322 .437 575 75 160 29 1 20 80 35 114 5 110 -5 2.5
2029 .274 .319 .426 554 70 152 28 1 18 74 34 110 5 106 -6 2.1
2030 .268 .312 .411 530 65 142 26 1 16 68 33 106 4 100 -6 1.5
2031 .268 .313 .411 496 60 133 24 1 15 63 31 100 3 100 -6 1.3

Alex Bregman, Houston Astros (Four years, $101 million)

The Astros have been able to let some of their offensive contributors walk in free agency — Springer and Carlos Correa among them — mainly because they’ve had pretty solid replacements coming up at the same time, such as Yordan Alvarez, Kyle Tucker, and Jeremy Peña. There’s no similar player on the horizon who can take the place of Alex Bregman. And with Houston already reeling with its pitchers, it would be a lot to ask the front office to fill a gaping hole at third base as well.

ZiPS Projection – Alex Bregman
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .255 .356 .421 572 91 146 29 3 20 88 84 84 2 116 1 3.8
2026 .251 .351 .408 542 84 136 27 2 18 79 78 80 2 111 0 3.2
2027 .249 .347 .394 507 76 126 25 2 15 71 72 76 1 107 -1 2.5
2028 .244 .343 .383 467 68 114 22 2 13 62 65 72 1 102 -2 1.9

Max Fried, Atlanta Braves (Six years, $150 million)

Atlanta has a knack for being able to survive epidemics of pitcher injuries in ways that are fascinating if you’re a fan of the team and maddening if you root for another one. But with Spencer Strider already out for the rest of this season after undergoing internal brace surgery for his damaged elbow, can Atlanta really afford to let Max Fried and Charlie Morton depart this offseason? I like what Reynaldo López has done this season, but you don’t really want to go into 2025 counting on his continued success, Chris Sale’s health, and a full recovery from Strider following his second UCL procedure? The Braves reportedly offered six years, $162 million to Aaron Nola; how could they not make a similar offer to Fried, a similarly valued pitcher who has been a large part of their recent success? Now, all reports I’ve heard suggest Fried’s not keen on discussing an extension during the season, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t change his mind if Atlanta gives him a good reason to do so.

ZiPS Projection – Max Fried
Year W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
2025 13 7 3.40 28 28 161.3 154 61 14 45 142 128 3.7
2026 12 6 3.55 27 27 152.0 151 60 15 42 130 122 3.2
2027 11 6 3.73 25 25 144.7 148 60 15 41 122 117 2.8
2028 10 6 3.87 23 23 132.7 140 57 15 39 108 113 2.4
2029 9 7 4.11 22 22 127.0 139 58 15 40 101 106 2.0
2030 8 6 4.40 20 20 110.3 128 54 15 38 85 99 1.4

Josh Naylor, Cleveland Guardians (Four years, $80 million)

Since the start of the 2002 season, the Guardians have received 10,109 plate appearances from first basemen not named Jim Thome, Carlos Santana, or Josh Naylor. Those 57 hitters have combined to hit .253/.324/.426 for 7.7 WAR, or about 0.5 WAR per 600 plate appearances. This is a franchise that has struggled to find solid fill-in first basemen, so it’s hard to imagine the Guardians would be able to find an an adequate replacement if Naylor walks after 2026. And this is hardly a blockbuster deal; it’s similar to what Kyle Schwarber got from the Phillies coming off the best season of his career (2.7 WAR in 2021). Naylor’s not a superstar, but he’s in his prime years. That should be enough incentive for the Guards to pay for him to stick around, and so long as the deal is fair, the fact that Josh’s younger brother Bo also plays for Cleveland might make him more inclined to stay.

ZiPS Projection – Josh Naylor
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .276 .339 .498 554 64 153 36 0 29 100 49 84 8 132 1 2.9
2026 .273 .338 .490 553 63 151 36 0 28 98 50 83 8 130 1 2.8
2027 .270 .336 .478 538 60 145 34 0 26 93 50 81 7 126 1 2.4
2028 .267 .334 .469 520 57 139 33 0 24 87 48 79 6 123 0 2.1

Jackson Merrill, San Diego Padres (Seven years, $95 million)

Jackson Merrill has one of the odder long-term projections according to ZiPS, which expects him to have a long, stable plateau rather than a period of significant growth followed by a steady decline (at least in the years covered below). But ZiPS is increasingly coming around to his reputation as a good bad-ball hitter, and his batting average projections have improved considerably since the winter. Merrill looks to be a solid player, and he’s one the Padres may need toward the end of their long-term deals with infielders Xander Bogaerts, Manny Machado, and Jake Cronenworth.

ZiPS Projection – Jackson Merrill
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .281 .325 .403 590 79 166 23 5 13 72 40 103 15 106 3 2.8
2026 .279 .325 .405 588 80 164 24 4 14 73 42 100 14 106 3 2.8
2027 .276 .325 .408 586 81 162 24 4 15 74 44 97 14 107 3 2.9
2028 .274 .324 .405 585 81 160 24 4 15 74 45 95 13 106 2 2.7
2029 .274 .327 .413 583 82 160 25 4 16 75 47 93 12 109 2 2.9
2030 .271 .325 .407 582 82 158 25 3 16 75 48 92 12 107 2 2.8
2031 .271 .325 .407 582 82 158 25 3 16 76 48 92 11 107 1 2.7
2032 .272 .326 .409 580 81 158 25 3 16 75 48 92 11 107 1 2.7

Pete Alonso, New York Mets (No offer)

Pete Alonso is rightfully a very popular player in New York, and I’ve always had a soft spot for the Polar Bear, both because homers are fun and because ZiPS was in on him very early when he was a prospect (everyone likes looking smart). And with his free agency imminent, this would be a suitable time to extend him on a long-term contract. The problem is, the more I look at the situation, the harder it is for me to think of a scenario in which he and the Mets could come to terms on a deal unless one party was willing to come out of the negotiation feeling very unhappy. ZiPS suggests a four-year, $70 million contract, and I can’t imagine Alonso feeling anything but insulted by an offer like that. I think given Alonso’s place in the organization and the hiccups in the development of Brett Baty and Mark Vientos, the Mets would be willing to pay Alonso more than a projection suggests, but I can’t see them offering him Freddie Freeman or Matt Olson money, either. Because the basic fact is that Freeman and Olson are more well-rounded players than Alonso, who has one amazing dimension. Just to illustrate, below Alonso I’ve included the projections for Freeman and Olson over the next six years.

ZiPS Projection – Pete Alonso
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .247 .338 .480 563 85 139 24 1 35 107 65 134 3 125 -1 2.6
2026 .245 .337 .468 543 80 133 23 1 32 99 63 129 3 122 -1 2.3
2027 .242 .334 .451 517 74 125 22 1 28 89 60 124 2 117 -1 1.8
2028 .236 .329 .431 487 66 115 21 1 24 79 56 119 2 110 -1 1.3
2029 .233 .326 .415 446 58 104 19 1 20 68 51 112 2 105 -1 0.9
2030 .221 .313 .380 376 46 83 15 0 15 53 42 97 1 93 -1 0.1

ZiPS Projection – Freddie Freeman
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .286 .383 .454 555 101 159 34 1 19 72 80 108 12 133 -1 3.4
2026 .279 .376 .438 505 88 141 30 1 16 62 72 102 9 127 -1 2.7
2027 .269 .366 .412 449 74 121 26 1 12 52 63 94 7 118 -2 1.7
2028 .262 .359 .399 393 62 103 22 1 10 43 54 87 6 112 -2 1.1
2029 .250 .345 .370 332 49 83 17 1 7 34 44 77 4 101 -2 0.3
2030 .242 .337 .353 252 36 61 13 0 5 24 33 62 3 94 -2 0.0

ZiPS Projection – Matt Olson
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2025 .243 .351 .472 551 90 134 31 1 31 92 88 144 1 127 1 3.0
2026 .239 .347 .457 527 84 126 29 1 28 83 84 139 1 123 0 2.5
2027 .231 .338 .432 498 75 115 26 1 24 74 78 133 1 114 0 1.7
2028 .227 .334 .414 459 67 104 24 1 20 64 71 125 1 108 0 1.2
2029 .219 .325 .386 407 56 89 20 0 16 53 62 114 1 98 0 0.5
2030 .213 .320 .372 328 44 70 16 0 12 40 49 96 0 93 0 0.2

Alonso projects to be slightly worse than them in the short term and then to be similar in the later years, though that’s likely because he is younger than them. Plus, by the end of 2024, the other players’ contracts already will have covered two additional prime seasons from Olson and three from Freeman. I don’t think any pending free agent has a bigger gulf than Alonso does between the perceived value of his past and the expected value of his future, and as such, this has contract boondoggle written all over it, as big as it was with Kris Bryant a couple years ago. I don’t envy the Mets for the decision they have to make with Alonso, because letting him go, trading him, and keeping him all feel like poor options.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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tyke
2 years ago

some pretty gaudy W totals projected for Fried!

Anon21Member since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  tyke

Yeah, it seems a little unlikely he will end up with forty-seven decisions in 2025, given that no pitcher since 1973 has started that many games.

Last edited 2 years ago by Anon21
jacksonv123
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon21

In only 28 games at that!

madopalMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon21

Especially given that he’s projected to appear in only 28 games (all starts).

sogoodlooking
2 years ago
Reply to  tyke

Roughly as gaudy as the RBI totals for De La Cruz, who figures it out in year two of the deal and pips 100 for eight straight seasons.

synco
2 years ago
Reply to  sogoodlooking

And he’s (well over) 100 runs for each year to boot!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

A lot of these contracts would be really hard to swallow if I was running a team. Burnes looks a lot more like a 3.5 win pitcher than a 5 win one, and the market for pitchers of that level is typically around $150M. Fried is off to a lousy start, so while the Braves absolutely have to sign more pitching for next year it’s not clear giving him the $150M deal is wise. But I also don’t think either of them will take a deal less than that, and in Burnes case he might not take one at all.

I would definitely wait until the end of the year to sign De La Cruz to an extension. He’s just coming off a hot streak and it’s possible they might be able to get him for less than that when his full year results (including slumps) are included. I don’t think this contract is too far off of what I would be comfortable with, and at the end of the year I think his perceived value would be better aligned with that.

I don’t think Bichette will stay at shortstop much longer, but if he can transition to third or second base, a 125 wRC+ player will still be something like a 4-win player. So I guess I’m grudgingly in on that. That’s a lot like what Bregman is likely to be going forward too, so I guess I’m grudgingly okay with that too.

I would run, not walk, to give Naylor that deal.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Fried’s start is actually not really all that lousy anymore, as he just followed up his Maddux in his last start with six no-hit innings yesterday. He’s got a 4.02 ERA and his peripherals are better than that.

sogoodlooking
2 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Maybe so, but he’s also probably been lucky on balls in play turning into hits and on FB not turning into HR.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sogoodlooking

In general I think we overreact to the first month of baseball. He will probably be fine. But his year has not gotten off to a great start.

synco
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It’s a very odd start. His K-rate is way down and his BB-rate is way up. What’s keeping him going is that his GB-rate is insane (67%, and his LA is -1), and people aren’t hitting the ball hard off him at all. Which has probably contributed to his .267 BABIP.

Whatever’s going on, it’s probably too weird to be sustainable.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sogoodlooking

You know you can look this kind of stuff up, right? And had you bothered to do so, you’d have seen that if anything the opposite is true.

fatsacksMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Against a bad offense (MIA x 2) and a weak offense (SEA), Fried pitched 21.1 innings and gave up 7 H, 1 ER and 3 BB with 17 K. Against a top offense (HOU) and two solid offenses (ARI and PHI), he pitched 10 innings and gave up 19 H, 13 ER and 8 BB with 8 K. Let’s see how he fares @LAD this weekend.

SculpinMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Dan wrote:
Naylor’s not a superstar…”

Welp. Sometimes it is a little confusing when real baseball and fantasy baseball columns get mixed together at Fangraphs. Contracts are of course about real baseball. Naylor is a tolerable-not-great first baseman so he will never put up Mookie Betts WAR numbers. But this year his strikeout rate has dropped to near his walk rate, just one more indication of a guy who is starting to look like a fantasy superstar. He currently sits inside the top 20 hitters and Statcast is all in with xstats comfortably above the 90th percentile. If you drafted Naylor in the 11th round or whatever, good job gamer.

sogoodlooking
2 years ago
Reply to  Sculpin

Though in the real-ish world Naylor’s a platoon 1Bman who looks like a version of Pete Alonso who hits 2/3 as many HR as Existing Pete. If you as GM extend that Naylor for anything near 4/$80m million including his last arb year, in part b/c your franchise has historically been bad at developing even stopgap 1Bmen, you should be fired on the spot.

SculpinMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  sogoodlooking

“Naylor’s a platoon”

OK then, but if I were making sit/start decisions for the Guardians this year, I would at least wait until his OPS against lefties drops below 1.000. (His OPS against lefties last year was .821.)

The Duke
2 years ago
Reply to  Sculpin

First fish I caught was a Sculpin and it convinced me that fishing wasn’t for me

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Sculpin

Dan has him under 3 wins in the projections, which would support his point, but it is hard to imagine a scenario where he is hitting 30% above league average and isn’t a star, especially since he seems to be at least average defensively at first base.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Sculpin

My friend named her dog Sculpin. After the beer not the fish

sogoodlooking
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Bregman at age 30 and with that awful start has a good chance of never being a 4-win player again.

alexpMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As a Braves fan, I would be thrilled if Fried signed that contract. But unless he is scared off of free agency based on how last offseason went for Montgomery and Snell, I don’t see him taking it. I agree with Dan that it’s hard to see how the rotation works next season if Fried and Morton both walk, so I hope they can work something out.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  alexp

They could get Burnes, Snell and Montgomery

hughduffy
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Since he debuted in 2017, Max Fried is 25th among qualifying pitchers in fWAR. Among left-handed starters, he’s 5th. Since 2019, he’s 14th in fWAR among qualifying pitchers and 1st among LHP.

What similar aces might be available in 2025? Gerrit Cole (opt out), Jordan Montgomery (opt out), Robbie Ray (opt out), Blake Snell (opt out) and Corbin Burnes. Gerrit Cole and Corbin Burnes will be more expensive than that, Snell and Montgomery aren’t upgrades, and Ray has injury risk and isn’t an upgrade.

If Fried signed a 150M/6 year extension, I’d be thrilled if I’m the Braves. I’d be happy tacking on another year, too. Fried is projected for 15.5 WAR over the next six years, and that contract would be in the money so long as Fried is healthy.

I think Fried wants to go to his hometown Dodgers. So I don’t think he’ll sign any extension before free agency.

sbf21
2 years ago
Reply to  hughduffy

Oh my god, stop with the Cole opt out already! The Yankees void it by adding one year at his current salary on to the back end. This is automatic unless his arm falls off.

hughduffy
2 years ago
Reply to  sbf21

I was just noting it for purposes of comparison. Cole is not going anywhere.

soddingjunkmailMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’d also sign Naylor to that contract.

Struggling to imagine the Guardians doing it though.

jdbolickMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As an Orioles fan, I don’t want any part of this Burnes proposal. He will turn thirty soon, his velocity has been trending down, and his contact has been trending up.

Baltimore is still a small market team in terms of revenue, so even though the team payroll should increase significantly, committing $210 million to a pitcher who is trending the wrong way is far too much risk for me.

Last edited 2 years ago by jdbolick
synco
2 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Agree. I’d want nothing to do with Burnes for 8/210. That strikes me as a contract you’d be regretting very very soon.

The Duke
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Braves won’t out their $$ on Fried. They are much more likely to trade for a pitcher with control.

Burnes ? I think it makes sense for the Os to take a chance. You have to give that lineup a chance to win. Burnes is an overpay but not if you see the value he brings to elevating the team

The Dbacks have gone all-in on surrounding their young team with great pitching. The Os need to do this.

aglossmanMember since 2016
2 years ago

Someone should double-check those Fried win projections… otherwise a fantastic article, as usual!

hamandcheeseMember since 2025
2 years ago

Naylor can really swing it, and has proven he can also mash lefties. The Guardians should really take a stab at signing him long term (assuming he has put his stabbing ways behind him). Great article!

tjcook87Member since 2020
2 years ago

Trying not to drool too hard at the projections for Elly.

its0in0the0cards
2 years ago
Reply to  tjcook87

I’m astonished that someone with such gaudy offensive numbers equates to a sub-120 OPS. Even with his high strikeouts and .250ish BA being only 16% better than a boring regular is a head scratcher.

linn
2 years ago
Reply to  tjcook87

@Tjcook87, I think ELDC is going to figure it out. he seems to have the personality to always look to improve and grow as a person and a player. That is what you want….a player who is ok with always adjusting their game to what the other team is doing. Sort of like prime votto.

JoeyVottoIsGoneMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  linn

We can only hope.

DBRunsMember since 2025
2 years ago

Dan, hopefully you’ll appreciate this as a Baltimore fan. Look at Pete Alonso and Chris Davis through their age 26-28 seasons:

Alonso: .250 / .338 /.513 (131 wRC+)
Davis: .254 / .335 / .523 (131 wRC+)

We know how things ended for one of the two.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  DBRuns

AB/SO:
Alonso 4.3
Davis 2.9

Davis struck out 140 more times in 220 fewer PAs. You can live with Davis’ contact (or lack thereof), but there’s less room for error there.

bookbookMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  DBRuns

If Davis was worth Schilling, Finley, and Harnisch, Alonso is surely worth $150 million!

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  bookbook

You are thinking of Glenn Davis.

JimMember since 2016
2 years ago

Dan, did you enjoy last night’s win over the Yankees?

RCMember since 2016
2 years ago

It’s interesting to see the projected drop off in production for Freeman look so similar to Alonso and Olson, even though he’s 5 years older.

jacksonv123
2 years ago

“hard to imagine the Guardians would be able to find an an adequate replacement if Naylor walks”.

Not a Manzardo fan? Also Charlie Condon will likely be joining the org before too long…

Last edited 2 years ago by jacksonv123
sogoodlooking
2 years ago
Reply to  jacksonv123

It’s batshirt for a low-budget team to pay J Naylor 4/80m when you have Manzardo lurking. His numbers to date look like Alonso’s before Alonso arrived in the majors. Maybe .020 light in SLG, but that’s about it.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  sogoodlooking

I think it really depends on how the team views itself in the near future. In a deal like that, you’re trading cost for certainty. There’s no guarantee Naylor doesn’t fall off a cliff next week, let alone in four years, but the probability that he is a better player than Manzardo in four years is larger than you seem to think.

The question becomes how much is that certainty at that position worth.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  sogoodlooking

Also, for what it’s worth, Manzardo’s ZiPS projections for the next 3 seasons look a lot like Naylor’s, but minus 50 points of slugging. Naylor – 50 points of slugging is not exactly great.

szakylMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  jacksonv123

Are Naylor and Manzardo mutually exclusive with neither 1B or DH otherwise taken unless you’re a Fry believer or think Ramirez will need to get off the field?

jacksonv123
2 years ago
Reply to  szakyl

I think it’s a fair expectation that J Ram will need more DH time as he ages (currently about 20% of the time). Maybe he even shifts to part time 1B. Ultimately Cle has limited financial resources, so to me, the relative value of Naylor over Manzardo is probably not the most efficient allocation.

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Bob A. Booey
2 years ago

Already too late for a CJ Abrams discussion?

David Klein
2 years ago

Alonso’s sprint speed is down and he looks worse than ever defensively and has never hit the ball less hard on average than he has this year both in average exit velo and hard hit rate. I know most Mets fans will grab their pitchforks but I think the Mets will let him go and they should. I would love to see them sign Soto and sign Christian Walker to replace Alonso at first base.

jb1205Member since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

Christian Walker who will be 34 all of next season? Out of curiosity, what kind of contract do you think he is likely to sign?

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

There’s a really big gulf between quantitative fandom and talk-radio Mets fandom on Alonso — in fact I think one of the biggest differences on any current player. And I love rooting for the dude, but I agree with you and this column; his next contract is not one I’d want my team to sign.

In all the talk about Pete being among the fastest players to 200 HR, people kept pointing out that the fastest ever was Ryan Howard. You would think this would be a lesson about the player’s likely career path! But instead it’s as if, to the “dingers! dingers!” contingency, aging is an unfortunate but unforeseeable accident. They want to re-sign guys on the basis of the most recent line on the baseball card, multiplied over the next N years.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
2 years ago

Discussion of talk-radio Mets fandom aside — the less said about those guys, the better — I definitely can see Alonso settling into a bargain-basement Freeman type of 30’s in his career. He’s got enough contact skill to decrease quality (HRs) for quantity (hits in general) as he ages.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago

Yeah, maaaaybe. I see his likely aging path as closer to Howard than Freeman but I agree he’s not going to fall off the same kind of absolute cliff at age 30 that Howard did. The frustrating part is that he’s going to have some value for a while yet, and probably more to the Mets than anyone else, yet it still seems clear that the market will hugely overvalue him.

jb1205Member since 2022
2 years ago

Alonso’s next contract is almost certain to be an overpay relative to production, but he’s still projected to be a top 10 (likely higher) 1B for the first couple of years, and above average for a year or two past that.

If you’re a Mets fan and you think they should let him go, what would your replacement plan be? Bring in another free agent who is cheaper, probably older, and likely to be worse (but for a shorter period)? Or plug in a minor leaguer who may be good or may be Eric Campbell (Eric, if you’re reading, I always rooted for you!)?

I understand the logic behind thinking they should let him go; I just think I would overpay him to get at least a few years of certainty unless they are confident in another plan.

I’ve read about Stearns’ preference for cheap 1B; but, from Alonso’s debut in 2019 through 2023, the Mets had 15 fWAR from the 1B position and the Brewers had 3.2– so, it’s not like that approach worked well for Stearns…

krusty
2 years ago

This is a great comment.

The only thing I’d add is that there’s a subset of Mets fans who *know* Alonso is very unlikely to age very well buuuut also know that, obviously, a few big guys with old player skills who mash dingers defy the aging curve every generation and… would really, really, really like to see Pete be one of those guys.

I don’t know that I’m as bearish as ZiPS is in the immediate short term, but I think it’s pretty obvious that any deal that goes past his early 30s is going to entail a ton of downside risk.

Alonso would definitely turn down 4/70 right now, but I wonder if the smartest play is for the Mets to let him go to FA, bet on his market being weak, and try and snap him up closer to ST (it absolutely sucks to think this cold-heartedly about him.)

hebrewMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  krusty

I think Alonso is going to find a very small market for his services once he enters FA, and the Mets are very smart to let him “test” the market and come back to them for 4/80mm or something similar

krusty
2 years ago
Reply to  hebrew

That’s kind of where I’m at, barring an absolutely monster season for Alonso (which I think he actually would have had last year had he not been injured.Timing and luck are everything, no?)

I really, really doubt he’s going to be a cliff diver, but who knows? Maybe his decline has already begun? But even if that’s the case, there’s probably 2-3 productive, worthwhile (if not super expensive) years ahead of him.

Alonso’s defense has been a little shaky to start this year, but he’s generally made surprisingly big strides. His bat’s been there so far. I tend to think he’ll get his customary ~135 bat, 40+ HR, ~4ish WAR (maybe more like 3.5 given this year’s start), etc. by year’s end.

Let’s say that’s the case? and Alonso’s maket settles around 4 years, 70-80M in a sort of Matt Chapman-esque situation (tho he was even shorter/lower)?

I could absolutely see Cohen coming in late with deferral laden deal that includes an extra year at whatever the going AAV is, or maybe a touch more. So maybe it’s something like 5/100, but with 25M of years 3-5 deferred?

Everyone looks good, Pete stays a Met, etc.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  krusty

People’s estimates of what Alonso will get in free agency seem to be absolutely all over the map here. If you guys are right and he ends up signing for 4y/80M or even 5y/100M, then sure, I totally agree the Mets should be the team to give it to him. But my guess is that’s significantly low on the length and the AAV. If the market actually is as unsettled as the guesses are here, then that’s probably an argument for the team to wait it out.

krusty
2 years ago

IIRC, last year rumors were that Alonso was looking for a monster deal of 180 or 200M+.

That seemed high then and, after this offseason proved disastrous for non-elite FAs, I tend to think Alonso’s risk of ending up in the Chapman/Bellinger pile is pretty significant.

Obviously, all of that hinges on what Alonso does over the rest of this season. I’m assuming he’ll have something like a normal (very fun! very good!) year.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

I am not convinced by “his sprint speed is down”. Yeah, of course it is. Speed peaks in the early-to-mid 20s, and his sprint speed progression is pretty consistent with being a large dude who was never that fast to begin with.

I’d be a lot more concerned about the hard hit rate…that is noticeably down.

ihatehatazMember since 2018
2 years ago

I think the point there is it has been seen to be an indicator of overall athleticism and points to offensive decline. The premise here is that they would be paying him like he’s got a few more years of prime left but the indicators are that he is about to decline. I love Pete, I would love him to set all the team records, but if they can get a haul for him in July I think they should. Even if they are “in” it.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  ihatehataz

Only a month in, but the early results aren’t promising. 14th percentile hard hit rate, 24th percentile exit velo, only a .438 xSLG.

I don’t think this is a player who’s going to decline soon. I think this is a player in decline now

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

There are a lot of teams fans out there that would love to sign Soto. If you are willing to pay the roughly $450M entry fee for the bidding to start, that’s the sort of player you want on your team. I imagine the Yankees and Giants will be more than willing to start there, but not so sure about other teams. Probably the Mets will be in, and potentially the Blue Jays. Not so sure the other big spenders (Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox, Phillies, etc) will be so interested.

The Duke
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

Alonso would be a huge mistake. They should go another way and let some other team carry the Ryan Howard albatross contract

SolitaireMember since 2020
2 years ago

Of all the Orioles I expected to find in this column, I think Burnes would’ve been my 4th or 5th guess. Would still be delighted to have the O’s lock up Burnes.

Dan, I’m sure there’s some avoidance of writing a whole article about your home team, but the O’s are a hot topic this year, so can you justify giving us an article on what you/Zips thinks it would take to lock up Henderson, Rutschmann, Rodriguez, Westburg? What it would cost to pre-emptively lock up the new rookies? I’ve got O’s on the brain and the only solution is more Cowbellser content

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Solitaire

Ya I would have predicted Henderson first to a Franco Tatis contract with hopefully better outcomes

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Those Franco and Tatis contracts aren’t looking all that great

jdbolickMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  Solitaire

Henderson and Holliday won’t be signing pre-arbitration extensions because Scott Boras doesn’t do them. Altuve had to fire Boras and switch to Octagon for his pre-arb extension in 2013. I don’t think any Boras client has even signed more than one year from free agency since Elvis Andrus.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Boras does typically not advise extensions but he has negotiated them in the past (Bogaerts, Strasburg). Of the two, I sincerely doubt that Holliday will sign an extension because he got a big bonus and his family has a ton of money too. Henderson is more likely but as someone else mentioned earlier he is probably in the Tatis Jr. range for an extension now. He is not going to come cheap.

jdbolickMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I said that Boras refuses to do pre-arbitration extensions. Bogaerts and Strasburg signed theirs only one year before they would have been free agents.

laughingstockMember since 2025
2 years ago

Any particular reason ZIPS sees Merrill as being 0.2 WAR worse in 2028 than both the season before and season after? I’m used to the projections being a very smooth curve

VinnieDaGooch
2 years ago

Id like to see Bregman to Detroit if Houston can’t turn it around.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  VinnieDaGooch

Is Detroit willing sacrifice some of 2025-8 for a better 2024?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  VinnieDaGooch

I remember back when the Tigers turned down Bregman for Michael Fulmer. Whoops! (They also turned down Baez for Fulmer as well.)

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

They might trade Baez for Fulmer now. Brad Fullmer.

CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago

Starting pitching free agency is gonna be fascinating this year. Mix between wanting to use Yamamoto as a benchmark and abject terror at ending up like Snell and Montgomery.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Well no one wants be like Bellinger or Chapman either

linn
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

I think what happened during FA last year for Bellinger, Chapman and Snell is going to cause more players to sign long term contracts. From a humanity perspective, that had to suck to go through that. I think we forget that sometimes.

jb1205Member since 2022
2 years ago

I don’t know what the right answer is regarding Alonso, but it seems like the Mets could probably afford to overpay him at least a little bit, in terms of AAV or total years. He’s not Freeman or Olson, but he’s a durable and consistently above average 1B. In his 6 years, he’s put up 15.8 fWAR; 14 out of 30 teams have totaled fewer than 6 fWAR over that period. Even with the projected decline from ZiPS, he would be above average for at least the next 3 years.

Getting what seems to be fairly predictable production from a position of surprising scarcity should be worth something. It will be interesting to see whether any other teams are willing to overpay him by a lot.

DLHughey
2 years ago
Reply to  jb1205

This is one of the shortfalls of a position-agnostic WAR analysis. A 3-4 WAR 1B is actually quite great. Even if that money could be spent more efficiently on WAR at other positions, somebody has to play 1B, and that person will get knocked via WAR for it.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

Sure but Alonso is more like a 2 WAR 1B.

jb1205Member since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Even a consistent 2 WAR 1B is pretty valuable considering 2/3 of the league didn’t have one last year. Half of the teams in the league put up 1.5 fWAR or less collectively at the 1B position, and 8 teams had negative fWAR from the position. If you let that 2-3 WAR guy go and become one of those teams in the bottom half, then you would need to add 1-2 WAR at a different position just to break even.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  jb1205

Well yes especially if he’s a beloved home grown guy and the budget is big.

The Duke
2 years ago
Reply to  jb1205

With taxes paying Alonso seems insane to me. If you are going to pay 2X for someone, it better be someone like Soto

tung_twista
2 years ago

$100M/4 year extension for Bregman might not be quite as insulting as $70M/4 year for Alonso, but it would still be a non-starter unless it comes with yearly opt-outs.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

If I were the Astros, I might tie Bregman’s compensation to the league home run rate. The dude absolutely needs the juiced ball.

tung_twista
2 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

The dude absolutely needs the juiced ball.

To go back to being a legit MVP contender, sure.
But in the past two seasons with de-juiced ball, Bregman is 22nd by wRC+, 23rd by fwar (among hitters), and 45th by HR.
He is having a rough start to the season, but at this point, I feel like Bregman is weirdly underrated.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

The ball last year wasn’t as juiced as 2019, but it was livelier than it is now (and look at Bregman this year!).

And I didn’t mean to imply that he turns into a pumpkin without it, only that he greatly benefits from it.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

I think he’s actually overrated. 45th by HR is not worth 20M/year.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago

I can see the Mets going all in on Juan Soto and getting some random 1B even a 1 WAR type.

LaBellaVitaMember since 2018
2 years ago

There is fantasy baseball, and there is extreme fantasy baseball. As a Rays fan, I see all these contracts as ludicrously extreme fantasies. Every long-term contract offered and signed involving the Rays did not end well. Heck, one didn’t even start well.

Jack
2 years ago

Bounty Hunter Boba Chette lol

Brad JohnsonMember
2 years ago

Wouldn’t Fernando Tatis Jr.’s deal be the floor for Elly?

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Why on Earth would that be the case? Tatis was the same age, better, and closer to free agency when he signed.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I can see it as a comp for Gunnar Henderson. Elly seems a level down.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Gunnar Henderson is playing out of his mind so far this year, so I think that tracks.

isavage
2 years ago

You could say 2 of the years missed time were the same injury, but Naylor has yet to play anywhere close to a full season. If he makes it through this season, and keeps hitting likes he’s been hitting, then I’d do that Naylor deal.

Old Washington Senators FanMember since 2020
2 years ago

I’d maybe add CJ Abrams to this list? He’s not (yet) at the level of these guys but he’s a key piece to staying good if the Nationals can rebuild successfully.

Gus
2 years ago

Sportrac has a 10/$322 value in a contract for Alonso.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  Gus

Not sure where you saw 10 years — I took a look at the Spotrac “Market Value” and it’s saying 8y/263M, though at about the same AAV, $32.9M. I would be just about as surprised to see him sign for that as I would at the ZIPS offer.

Shalesh
2 years ago

Spotrac’s Market Value is useless for NFL player estimates. (Actual signings are wildly different.) You’d figure MLB would be easier to estimate, but I wouldn’t rely on Spotrac.

Dmjn53
2 years ago
Reply to  Gus

If you bet on him signing for literally one dollar, you’d be closer than $322m

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

Ah, the ol’ “Price is Right” bidding strategy…

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Gus

What is that based on?

OldBravesGuyMember since 2019
2 years ago

No love for Gunnar Henderson?