The Carter-Papelbon Scale

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One of my enduring memories of watching the All-Star game as a child — a child who became a baseball fan in a time before high-speed internet, social media, or even interleague play — was learning about all the players I’d been unable to see throughout the regular season. That included the American League and West Coast stars, but also a parade of forgettable pitchers, and yes, it always seemed to be pitchers, from crappy teams.

For some reason, Royals right-hander José Rosado is the guy who sticks out in my mind. Rookie of the Year vote-getter in his age-21 season, All-Star at 22 and 24, done in the majors at 25. If he hadn’t shown up in pregame intros between Justin Thompson and Jeff Cirillo that one time, I might never have been aware of him.

Ever since then, the token All-Star has fascinated me. The rules dictate that each team must have one representative, and as someone who grew up rooting for a team that frequently could not muster more than one good player a year, I am a rabid supporter of this rule. Even if it throws up a proverbial curveball every so often.

The tragic thing about baseball is that an individual player can be really good and still be unable to pull his team out of the basement. So when a team musters merely a single All-Star representative, sometimes the player in question deserves to be there on merit. Most of the time, even. Especially when it’s a starting pitcher or a position player.

But sometimes the fans, the players, the managers, and — in case of last resort — the commissioner and his functionaries will look a last-place roster up and down and go, “Man, these guys stink!” So they’ll hold their noses and pick the reliever with the lowest ERA on the team and send him to the All-Star Game. Relievers only throw 30 or 40 innings in the first half anyway — surely someone in that bullpen must’ve BABIP’d his way into a non-embarrassing ERA in that small a sample.

Since the strike, there have been 27 All-Star relievers (well, 26, including Brad Hand twice) who were the only representative of a team that finished with a winning percentage of .450 or worse. I was going to pick on the Pirates here, because I was so scarred by early-2000s Mike Williams and so tickled by 2010 All-Star Evan Meek. Meek, for those of you who don’t remember — and why would you? — had one awesome year and represented a 105-loss Pirates team at the All-Star Game. That’s the only season in his brief career in which Meek threw 50 or more innings in the majors. We are shadows and dust.

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But the Pirates, while recidivists, are not an outlier. They’ve sent a token reliever from a bad team three times since 1995, but so have the Phillies and Rays. The Padres have done it a league-high five times, including, again, Hand twice. The Royals and Tigers have both sent different token relievers in consecutive years. It’s a pretty common thing, it turns out.

You know what? Let’s just see the list, with each player’s first-half stats from the year he got picked.

The Token All-Star Relievers
Player Season Team ERA- WAR SV
Ricky Bottalico 1996 PHI 84 0.6 20
Ugueth Urbina 1998 MON 32 1.4 20
Troy Percival 1999 ANA 44 1.1 23
Mike Williams 2002 PIT 45 0.3 25
Trevor Hoffman 2002 SDP 63 1.1 20
Armando Benitez 2003 NYM 74 0.5 21
Lance Carter 2003 TBD 90 0.2 15
Brian Fuentes 2005 COL 52 0.9 12
Danys Baez 2005 TBD 62 0.2 13
Bobby Jenks 2007 CHW 70 1 23
George Sherrill 2008 BAL 92 0.3 28
Joakim Soria 2010 KCR 56 0.8 25
Evan Meek 2010 PIT 28 0.9 1
Matt Capps 2010 WSN 79 0.4 23
Aaron Crow 2011 KCR 50 0.3 0
Heath Bell 2011 SDP 69 1 26
Jonathan Papelbon 2015 PHI 41 0.6 14
Alex Colomé 2016 TBR 41 0.7 19
Pat Neshek 2017 PHI 29 1.3 1
Brad Hand 2017 SDP 55 1.1 25
Joe Jiménez 2018 DET 63 1.3 3
Brad Hand 2018 SDP 78 0.2 24
Shane Greene 2019 DET 24 0.7 22
Kirby Yates 2019 SDP 27 2.2 30
David Bednar 2022 PIT 70 1.1 16
Tanner Scott 2024 MIA 32 0.6 14
Mason Miller 2024 OAK 59 1.8 15

We’ve got two this year — Tanner Scott and Mason Miller — and both are there on merit. Miller in particular is about as exciting as an inexperienced closer from a noncompetitive team can be. This list includes a Hall of Famer, at least one Hall of Very Good-er, and several players who were consistently among the best closers in the game for a number of years. Nobody would blink at those pitchers making the Midsummer Classic. But the list also includes, well, some Evan Meek types, the ones you’ll forget until the time comes to Remember Some Guys.

To pull back the curtain a little, at some point yesterday afternoon I started mixing Stathead and Excel again, and my fun little thousand-word blog about Scott and Miller started to get weird. I came up with a rubric to measure the quality and notoriety of these token All-Star relievers. I call it the Carter-Papelbon Scale, for reasons that’ll become clear when you see where Lance Carter and Jonathan Papelbon grade out.

The Carter-Papelbon Scale Scoring Rubric
Fame Markers Points
Per World Series Championship 3
Per World Series Trip 2
Per Playoff Appearance 1
First Previous All-Star Appearance 3
Subsequent Previous All-Star Appearances 2
Win or GF in World Series Clincher 5
Per save that season 0.1
Previous ROY or Top-5 Cy Young Finish 5
Plays for Yankees 3
Has played for Yankees 2
Plays for Dodgers or Red Sox 2
Has played for Dodgers or Red Sox 1
Plays for a non-Chicago Central Division Team -3
Plays for a team in Florida or Canada -5
Per previous season of 50+ IP 1
Per previous season of 30+ Saves 3
In-Season Quality Markers Points
Per point of ERA- under 100 0.2
Per 0.1 WAR 1
Per save 0.5

What I tried to capture in the fame section is how familiar your average fan would be with this Charlie Brown-iest type of All-Star representative. Has he been an All-Star before? Does he play for a big team, or has he in the past? Has he pitched in the playoffs, and if so, has he recorded the last out of a World Series clincher and been etched into the public record as the first layer of a championship dogpile?

In-season saves count for both quality and fame because they’re a measure of, if not actual skill, then at least achievement and All-Star worthiness by established standards. But they also make a pitcher famous. Even closers for bad teams get noticed by people who check leaderboards or play fantasy baseball.

The All-Star Game is both a reward and an exhibition, so you want players who are recognizable, good, or ideally both. This chart features all 27 token All-Star reliever seasons since the strike, and I’ve highlighted this year’s two examples, as well as three historical outliers.

Miller is in yellow, Scott in light blue (the difference is subtle, but you can see it if you squint). The red dot is 2015 Papelbon, the brown dot is 2019 Kirby Yates, and the purple dot is 2003 Lance Carter.

Papelbon has the highest notoriety score, owing to the fact that by the time he lumbered out to carry the flag for a Phillies outfit that would go on to finish with the worst record in baseball, he’d been a top-two closer in baseball for almost a decade. He’d saved the decisive game of a World Series, he’d made five All-Star teams already, he’d been among the league leaders in saves every year, and he’d done the bulk of that work for one of the highest-profile franchises in baseball. Everyone knew Jonathan Papelbon by that point.

Just below Papelbon on the chart is 2002 Trevor Hoffman, who to that point was only halfway through a career that would end with him (albeit only briefly) as the all-time saves leader. Nevertheless, he’d racked up numerous accolades even to that point, including a second-place Cy Young finish on a team that won the pennant. Papelbon and Hoffman were stars no matter how crappy their teams were at the time.

It is at this point that I direct you to the purple dot, which is the aforementioned Lance Carter. I didn’t remember his being an All-Star. I do remember having a franchise mode save in MVP Baseball 2005 where I brought him into basically every tie game and he ended up winning 25 games and the Cy Young as a middle reliever. Otherwise this would probably be a new name to me.

Carter is dead last in both quality and fame. He ended up saving 26 games for a 99-loss Devil Rays team that year, but even at the break he was 15-for-21 in save opportunities with a 4.05 ERA and a K/9 ratio of just 5.8. Mason Miller this was not. This was Carter’s age-28 season, and he entered it with just 14 big league appearances under his belt. He had one more solid year after that for Tampa Bay, and was done in the majors by 2006.

And it takes some doing to get under the near-nonentity that was 2011 Aaron Crow. Crow might’ve been a bigger name if he’d come up today; he refused to sign with the Nationals in 2008 when they picked him ninth overall out of Mizzou, then got picked in the first round again by Kansas City a year later. (Washington got a compensation pick the next year and used it on Drew Storen, so the Nats came out ahead in the long run.) When Crow got picked for the All-Star team in 2011, he was a rookie setup man for a team that finished 71-91. He had a 2.08 ERA at the time, but that’s as good as it got for Crow, who did not figure on the Royals team that won a title in 2015.

The brown dot all the way to the right is Yates, who made his second All-Star team this week. But in 2019 — and I’ve been banging this drum for a while now — he was in the midst of one of the best reliever seasons of the 21st century. Don’t believe my back-of-the-napkin points system? At the break in 2019, Yates had a 1.15 ERA, 30 saves, and 60 strikeouts in 39 innings. At the time, opponents were hitting .163/.231/.230 off him. That guy makes the All-Star team if he’s playing for the Port Ruppert Mundys.

Miller hasn’t been quite that good, but he’s also in Texas on merit. I have him fourth in quality score, for whatever that’s worth. You don’t need me to tell you how good he is. And if anything, my rubric for fame undersells him significantly. Miller is the most visible member of his team in this GIF-happy world, and he’s familiar to fans of big-market teams because Oakland’s been dangling him shamelessly as trade bait.

Scott hasn’t been quite that good, but he has a 1.34 ERA, he’s won or saved 20 of Miami’s 33 wins to date, and he’s got an IOU from the baseball-industrial complex after he dragged the Marlins to the playoffs last year to relatively little fanfare. Besides, the Marlins have the worst offense in the National League and zero healthy, effective starting pitchers. And lest we forget, the whole premise of this exercise is predicated on the fact that the league has to choose someone from each team.

In fact, these pitiable seasons are harder and harder to find. The last real bummer of an All-Star reliever was probably Joe Jiménez in 2018. Tigers fans might feel differently, but even for a bad team, it’s much more fun when the All-Star representative is on a level with the stars from the big clubs. And that’s what we got this year.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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Dmjn53
2 years ago

So many names here that haven’t entered by brain in years

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago

Joe Jiminez was the first guy I thought of! I remember seeing him in the All-Star game that year and having no idea who he was, even as a Fangraphs regular at the time. Then I looked up his underlying numbers and immediately tried to acquire him in every OOTP game I was running at the time xD

Last edited 2 years ago by EonADS
Liam
2 years ago

scientists say the ideal morning consists of sunlight, 30 minutes of movement, and a baumann article that makes you remember some guys

JV19
2 years ago

Shocked that in almost 30 years of being generally not good that the Reds don’t have a token reliever. Closest was 2009 Francisco Cordero.

JoeyVottoIsGoneMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  JV19

Somehow, the Reds managed to send more than one All-Star per season every year from 2010-2021*, which seems incredible when compared to their mediocrity during that time.

*There was no All-Star Game in 2020, but since the streak continued between 2019 and 2021, let’s not split hairs.

intelatiMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  JV19

Votto helped that…

filter2Member since 2025
2 years ago

A perfect time to remember that Orioles legend George Sherrill pitched 2.1 scoreless innings in a 2008 All-Star Game that went 15 (!!!) innings

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago

I was going to say that your system missed 2003 Mike Williams, but to my surprise the Pirates finished above the .450 cutoff that year. 2003 Mike Williams though! In 2002 he at least had an ERA under 2 at the break (albeit an FIP 2 runs higher), but in 2003 he had a ghastly first-half ERA of 6.44, was about to be traded for one Frank Brooks, and was out of baseball after the season.

And Brian Giles was right there! Giles (who was about to get traded for Jason Bay and Oliver Perez) was hitting 307/444/512 at the break, in 2002 he was hitting 299/426/612, and he got snubbed for Williams both years.

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago

Mike Williams is easily the worst All-Star ever. I mean, he never pitched after 2003. You have to wonder if anyone else ever was an All-Star and then out of baseball on merit after that season.

(Obligatory mention that he pitched 768 IP over 12 seasons in the majors and thus had a better career than 99% of all baseball players, the vast majority of whom never make the majors)

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Cal Ripken Jr. in his last season, but that doesn’t really count.

It looks like Bryan LaHair was permanently out of MLB after his all-star season–he got released, went to Japan for two years, and then did a few years in the minors and indy ball before becoming a minor-league coach. He definitely had a worse MLB career overall than Williams, who had a couple good years (especially by ERA rather than FIP), but unlike 2003 Williams was having a good season when he was picked, and wasn’t the Cubs’ sole representative.

srpst23Member since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon

By my math, Williams was 35 at the end of the 2003 season. Is it a shock that a soon to be 36 year old relief pitcher worth -0.6 War the previous season couldn’t find a new team, regardless if he was an All-Star the previous year or not.

The real intriguing question is: Has there ever been a player who made multiple All-Star games, with their first selection not being until their age 34 season?

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  srpst23

Is it a shock that a soon to be 36 year old relief pitcher worth -0.6 War the previous season couldn’t find a new team, regardless if he was an All-Star the previous year or not.

I can imagine Scott Boras putting together one of his fancy binders for Williams as a free agent to present to all of his potential suitors…open to page one: “ALL-STAR” is typed out in 48-point font on page one.

That is the entirety of the binder’s contents.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  srpst23

My first thought (player who doesn’t make the All-Star game till age 34 and makes multiple teams) was R.A. Dickey, but he only had the one All-Star selection. Then I thought of Satchel Paige (for ML/AL All-Star Game) and he did make the team at 45 and 46, but that’s super cheap. You could also find someone who was 34 at the time of the first all-star game.

Jamie Moyer also only made the team once at age 40 (and had a longer career after that than most players have careers). Bartolo made the game at 25, 32, 40, and 43, which has got to be some kind of record for dispersion but not this kind of record. Hoyt Wilhelm debuted at 29 and made the game(s) at 30, 36, 38, 39, and 41, which is very frustrating.

Feels like there’s gotta be another of those guys who gets converted to a reliever late–Doug Jones and Andrew Miller are both pretty close to the age cutoff, as is Elroy Face–but I can’t think of one.

nelliseMember since 2024
2 years ago

Phil Niekro just misses the qualifications: first all-star at 30, then 36, 39, 43, 45. Charlie Hough made his only All-Star game at 38.

But there is a current pitcher who made his only 2 All-Star game appearances at 34 and 35: Charlie Morton.

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  nellise

Good call on Morton. He’s been good for long enough now that it’s easy to forget that he didn’t start particularly young and wasn’t particularly good his 1st 9 years in the league (though, to be fair, he wasn’t exactly bad either. He just wasn’t good)

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  srpst23

Not multiple years but Raul Ibanez didn’t make his lone AS appearance until age 37.

nelliseMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Found one who fits in with this article: Fernando Rodney. Three All-Star selections at 35, 37, 39. In 2016 (age 35) he probably would have been the Padres only selection but he got traded to the Marlins just before the All-star break.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Kevin Correia would like a word.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
2 years ago

… after he gets done speaking with Jeff Locke. Man the Bucs have had some terrible reps on the pitcher side.

maguroMember since 2016
2 years ago

Funny thing is that the Pirates had multiple reps both years, so they didn’t get picked because they had to have someone from the team. The year Locke was selected, they had 5(!) guys on the team.

srpst23Member since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  maguro

With pitchers especially, you have to take some of them with a grain of salt. How many originally selected pitchers (mostly starters) don’t go to the All-Star game, due to injury (real or maintenance related), or that they “just pitched on Sunday”? So the guys who actually end up playing in the game could have been like the 5th or 6th alternate.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  maguro

OK I remembered Correia making the team because he stumbled into double-digit wins before the break, but I somehow completely blanked on Locke making the team. I guess he pitched to a 2.15 ERA before the break. (Not backed up by FIP, of course.)

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago

Ooooo, Locke is a good one. He actually had a couple decent years but ended up with -0.7 bWAR for his career (though 3.0 fWAR).

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I guess I’m late to the party here, but Twins all-star futility corner infielder Ron Coomer surely deserves a mention. Selected for the team in 1999 (0.9 WAR, 80 wRC+). Career 1.9 WAR.

Jared Jones Day EnjoyerMember since 2023
2 years ago

Giles was injured for 3 weeks at the end of April and had less HR and RBI (bear with me it’s 2003) than any of the other NL reserve OFers, so I can see how they’d shy away from him. But Jason Kendall was right there too! He played the same amount of games as the NL’s reserve catcher Paul Lo Duca, had the same amount of RBI (34), only 2 HR less (4-6), an AVG one point higher (.308-.307), and had already been an all star 3 times compared to Lo Duca’s zero! I guess at the very least it is comforting to know that the incompetence we see coming from this league every day is nothing new.

Charley BaseballMember since 2026
2 years ago

The Tigers lone representative in 2021 was Gregory Soto, and he would have been their lone representative again in 2022 if not for Manfred allowing Miguel Cabrera in as a “Legacy All-Star”

Charlie HustleMember since 2016
2 years ago

Your scale suggests that a RP playing in Florida or Canada would need about 80 career saves to achieve the same degree of notoriety as a RP on the Yankees with zero saves…all other things being equal, which they probably wouldn’t be if one guy collects 80 saves to the other’s zero saves. This seems just about spot on!

TJMember since 2020
2 years ago

The “Is He Famous?” metric was explained thoroughly, but how was “Is He Good?” quantified?

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  TJ

I think “Is He Good?” is what’s measured by “In-Season Quality Markers,” so it’s ERA, WAR and saves that going. (As Michael says, saves count under both metrics, though they’re weighted more for “Is He Good?”)

DDMember since 2020
2 years ago

Michael, I was about to jump on Bottalico in ’96 as the one I remember most. Jim Eisenrich hit .361 that year, but as a platoon bat was easily overlooked.

Can you do a similar exercise to find the worst All Star selection of all time, based on the player’s results that year and career?

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  DD

Mike Williams, 2003.

He wasn’t good that year (ERA over 6.00 at the break) and wasn’t good for his career posting a 4.45 ERA and 3.6 WAR over 12 seasons and 768 IP mostly as a reliever (he did spend 1 year as a starter where he led the league in wild pitches). While he did spike a decent ERA a few times, he only had 2 seasons with a FIP under 4.40 and only 1 with a FIP under 3.90 so it’s not like he had a good run in there or anything.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
2 years ago

This article is like a giant Immaculate Grid cheat sheet.

Ben SchneiderMember since 2020
2 years ago

This is my new favorite scale, not just in baseball

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Ben Schneider

Mine is the truck scale off the interstate but this is a close second!

Kenny OckerMember since 2020
2 years ago

José Rosado was so forgettable for you, you forgot he was left-handed.

jtricheyMember since 2021
2 years ago

Ned Colletti, bless his little heart, loved these guys. He traded a still very young Edwin Jackson for both Danys Baez and Lance Carter! (2 All Stars? Of course I’ll make that trade!) He also traded for George Sherrill (the much less good Josh Bell went the other way).
Man I hated the Ned Colletti years.

chartsengrafs
2 years ago
Reply to  jtrichey

As GM or on tv?

shortstop
2 years ago

I would love to see a Token Metric that identifies the most blatant token selections ever. Something similar to this, except including all positions, removing the .450 requirement, and counting how many non-all stars at the same position had a higher first half WAR.

recoveringbucsfan
2 years ago

I was confused how Gregory Soto didn’t make the cut until I realized that was the year they sent Cabrera and Pujols to the ASG as “special selections” lol

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago

I’ve wondered before who had the most “token” selections where they clearly weren’t deserving but made it as their team’s only rep. Sal Perez made 8 AS teams but was his team’s only rep for only 3 of those – 2013, 2018 and 2023. In all 3, there’s a pretty good case that he wasn’t really one of the 2 or 3 best catchers in the AL. But that also doesn’t feel like quite the same thing since he has other very objectively good years and is obviously very well-known and possibly even a HOFer.

Scott Cooper and his below league average but high BA numbers making it in back to back in years in 1993 and 1994 would have to be a strong contender.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Looks like Greg Holland was also selected for the Royals in 2013. Perez was pretty much a token pick in 2018 and 2023 though; in 2018 his wRC+ at the break was 72. Those weren’t good Royals teams (unlike 2013) though Bobby Witt Jr. would’ve been a good choice last year.

AnonMember since 2025
2 years ago

Oops, you’re right about 2013. Actually, Alex Gordon was also.

So it was only 2 “token” selections for Salvy, but like I said, hard to call him token when the guy is a legit star.

LenFuegoMember since 2025
2 years ago

Let’s not forget to mention All-Star roster inflation … until 1982 there were just 25 All-Stars per league. That number exploded to 30 in 1982. Even since 1995 (the somewhat arbitrary starting year picked for this article), the number has increased by three per league, to 32 in 2003, 33 in 2009 and 34 in 2010. Yeah, there are a few more teams now than when that 25 per league figure was in place, but none have been added since 1998. Finding an appropriate representative from each team is simply a lot easier than it used to be.

Baller McCheese (burner account)Member since 2015
2 years ago

Never trust an article that doesn’t reference MVP Baseball 2005.

theoriolewayMember since 2026
2 years ago

George Sherrill!

Jed
2 years ago

Thank you for making me think of Aaron Crow after all these years

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Jed

The “Aaron Crow laws” for token ASG representation are much more fun to think about than the “Jim Crow laws”

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago

While I suspect you are right about relievers most often being the crappy one guy selected, it would be interesting to see what starters/position player reserves would also be classified as all star duds.

darren
2 years ago

Love to see any mention of Papelbon, a really underrated closer. He was overshadowed by the inhuman Mariano Rivera and, for some reason, seems to be disliked by many of my fellow Red Sox fans (even before his fisticuffs with Bryce Harper). But for about six years there he was as great as a closer could be, including dominating the postseason.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  darren

Wasn’t he known to be kind of a jerk? You mentioned the Harper incident but I understood that was far from out of character. Or maybe fans just unreasonably expected him to be as good as Mo.

chartsengrafs
2 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Check him out on Foul Territory to get a taste of where he’s at

chartsengrafs
2 years ago

The commenters kicked ass today

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
2 years ago

Fun article! The Nats actually came out ahead on TWO of these guys. Not only did they profit by getting Drew Storen after Aaron Crow elected not to sign, they were somehow able to parlay Matt Capps into Wilson Ramos shortly after the ASG.