2020 Trade Value: #41 to #50

While a shortened season might make this year’s version of our Trade Value Series an unusual one, with the deadline looming, we are not about to break with tradition. For a more detailed introduction to this year’s exercise, as well as a look at those players who fell just short of the top 50, be sure to read the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, which can be found in the widget above.

For those who have been reading the Trade Value Series the last few seasons, the format should look familiar. For every player, you’ll see a table with the player’s projected five-year WAR from 2021-2025, courtesy of Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections. The table will also include the player’s guaranteed money, if any, the year through which the team has contractual control of the player, last year’s rank, and then projections, contract status, and age for each individual season through 2025, if the player is under contract or team control for those seasons. Last year’s rank includes a link to the relevant 2019 post. Thanks are due to Sean Dolinar for creating the tables in these posts. At the bottom of the page, there will be an updated grid showing all the players who have been ranked up to this point.

With that out of the way, let’s get to the first batch of players.

Five-Year WAR +11.7
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 23 +2.4 Pre-Arb
2022 24 +2.3 Pre-Arb
2023 25 +2.3 Arb1
2024 26 +2.3 Arb2
2025 27 +2.3 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

There isn’t a consensus around Dustin May, either on prospect lists or in baseball front offices. His high-end fastball has a ton of movement and sits in the upper-90s, but its sinking action is likely to prevent it from being a huge swing-and-miss pitch. Nobody is down on May, per se, but his prospect rankings ranged from the top 10 on some lists to the mid 20s on others, with our lead prospect analyst, Eric Longenhagen, slotting him 14th. He’s already seen some success in the majors, with his FIP and ERA in the low-threes in over 54.1 innings.

He’s made eight starts and while his strikeout rate was just 20% in those outings, he has limited walks and homers and put up a 3.18 FIP. He’s going to need to miss more bats to take the next step in his development, but the tools are there to make it happen. Although the opinions are somewhat wide-ranging when it comes to just how good he will be, enough teams see his future being bright to make this list. The Dodgers couldn’t get equivalent value from every team for May, but if he were available, they could extract a considerable return.

Five-Year WAR +17.3
Guaranteed Dollars $100 M
Team Control Through 2022
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 28 +4.1 $20.0 M
2022 29 +3.9 $20.0 M
2023 30 +3.7 $20.0 M
2024 31 +3.2 $20.0 M
2025 32 +2.5 $20.0 M
Player Option

Xander Bogaerts was very tough to place — I was told both that he should be higher and that he shouldn’t be on the list at all. He would be very high on the list if not for the opt-out in his deal that comes after 2022. Bogaerts will make $20 million per year over the next couple season before deciding whether to hit free agency after his age-29 season or stick with the Red Sox. The opt-out adds $60 million in downside if Bogaerts’ performance falls, which diminishes the value he is expected to provide over the next few years.

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How you evaluate Bogaerts depends on your confidence in his performance over the next couple seasons. Bogaerts put up a nearly-7 WAR season in 2019 and is off to another great start in 2020. If you think he’s more of a four-win player in 2021 and 2022, his value probably isn’t high enough to put him on the list. If he’s a five-win player or better, the downside risk will be outweighed by the big value in his present-performance. Risk-averse clubs aren’t going to deal for Bogaerts, but a win-now club that can more easily absorb the risk of a decline might be willing to offer considerably more. Bogaerts wouldn’t have that many suitors, but there should be enough to net good value in trade.

Five-Year WAR +19.0
Guaranteed Dollars $109.5 M
Team Control Through 2022
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 33 +4.6 $37.5 M
2022 34 +4.1 $37.5 M
2023 35 +3.8 $34.5 M
2024 36 +3.5 $32.5 M
Team Option
Player Option

Like Bogaerts, Jacob deGrom’s opt-out really complicates matters. Unlike Bogaerts, deGrom also has a high salary and his age working against him. Still, deGrom put up 16 wins over the last two years, the highest mark in baseball among pitchers and behind just Mike Trout and Mookie Betts overall. His placement on this list is due to that great performance alone, as the other factors aren’t in his favor. In 2021 and 2022, deGrom is owed $48.5 million, including a $10 million bonus due in January, which is pretty reasonable; he’s also owed another $28.5 million for salary deferrals in those seasons.

deGrom is 32 years old and needs to maintain five-plus win seasons his age-33 and 34 seasons to justify placement on this list. If he pitches well, the $30 million salary in 2023 is well worth it, or deGrom opts out. There’s the risk he pitches poorly, and that the team trading for him will have committed more than $100 million in addition to sending good players the Mets’ way. While most teams would love to have Jacob deGrom, even at his salary, trading for him is not be in the cards for every club. It’s possible there would be enough teams interested to build a solid market, but a massive haul likely isn’t possible.

Five-Year WAR +27.3
Guaranteed Dollars $365 M
Team Control Through 2032
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 28 +6.2 $22.9 M
2022 29 +5.9 $22.9 M
2023 30 +5.7 $25.4 M
2024 31 +5.1 $30.4 M
2025 32 +4.4 $30.4 M

Betts’ value is one of the trickier propositions on this entire list. To start, he’s owed $365 million, a contract few teams would trade for. But he’s also one of the very best players in the game and he’s still just 27 years old. The situation is further complicated by the structure of his contract, which is backloaded and includes more than $100 million in deferrals. If we were to use an 8% discount rate on all the money Betts is owed, and turn it into a 10-year contract with equal payments — like the $355 million Mike Trout is owed over 10 years — Betts’ deal looks like a 10-year, $265 million contract. That’s a phenomenal value and would put him in the top-20 of this list. However, if traded, those deferrals are eliminated and the 10-year contract equivalent is worth $328 million. That’s a contract most teams wouldn’t touch, but there is some value in it. Because there’s considerably more value for the Dodgers in Betts’ contract, a trade is essentially impossible to pull off, but if Los Angeles felt compelled to move him, this is where his value would be.

Five-Year WAR +15.2
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 24 +3.0 Pre-Arb
2022 25 +3.1 Pre-Arb
2023 26 +3.2 Arb1
2024 27 +3.2 Arb2
2025 28 +2.8 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

Last year, Kiley McDaniel mentioned Hiura as a player likely to make this list in 2020, and after entering the season as FanGraphs’ 13th-best prospect in 2019, Hiura raked in Triple-A, then kept it going in his debut. He hit 19 homers in half a season in Milwaukee and his 139 wRC+ trailed that of just Yordan Alvarez, Pete Alonso, and Fernando Tatis Jr. among rookies with at least 300 plate appearances last year.

His strikeouts are a bit higher than you’d like to see, but Hiura just turned 24 and was pushed aggressively through the Brewers system, going from Low-A at the end of 2017 to the majors in just a year and a half, with fewer than 800 plate appearances across three levels. Hiura hits the ball hard and as his strikeouts go down, he’ll be able to continue hitting at a high level. His defense isn’t great at second base, but it’s also a position where shifting can cover up some weaknesses. There’s an argument for placing Hiura higher, but second base isn’t a position that has been discounted of late, so he really has to continue hitting at a high level to keep his value up.

Five-Year WAR +8.4
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 23 +1.7 Pre-Arb
2022 24 +1.9 Pre-Arb
2023 25 +1.6 Arb1
2024 26 +1.6 Arb2
2025 27 +1.5 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

It can be difficult to balance Luzardo’s injury history and the risk that comes with it with his performance. On the one hand, he had Tommy John surgery his senior year of high school and missed considerable time last season with shoulder and lat issues. On the other hand, Luzardo has already demonstrated the ability to get hitters out at the big league level. He’s got an excellent sinker that sits in the upper-90s and a low-80s slider that induces whiffs. Pitchers are generally risky, and Luzardo’s injury history would likely scare a lot of teams away and makes his value hard to read. Ultimately, talent and performance put him on this list. If Oakland were to trade him, it’s probably an indication that he shouldn’t be on this list at all as it might signal something about the state of his arm, and the back-end of the top-50 is sort of a no-man’s land for a prospect like Luzardo, who could be great but comes with concerns. It’s an unhappy medium that Luzardo’s performance should fix, for better or worse, over the next year.

Five-Year WAR +8.4
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2026
Previous Rank
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 24 +1.8 Pre-Arb
2022 25 +1.8 Pre-Arb
2023 26 +1.7 Arb1
2024 27 +1.6 Arb2
2025 28 +1.6 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

Pearson’s introduction to the majors has been up and down, but his 100 mph fastball will play. He’s got an impressive repertoire that includes a hard slider, a change, and a curve that the Blue Jays hope will help the team sneak into the playoffs this year. Pearson was ranked eighth on Eric Longenhagen’s top 100 prospect list entering the season, with MLB Pipeline (eighth), Baseball America (seventh), ESPN (sixth) and The Athletic (11th) providing a near-consensus on his status, with only Baseball Prospectus knocking him a little with the 19th spot. The stuff is there. The performance in the minors is there. The results in the majors are soon likely to follow.

Five-Year WAR +10.5
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2023
Previous Rank #16
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 26 +2.3 Arb1
2022 27 +2.2 Arb2
2023 28 +2.1 Arb3
Arb

Ohtani is still young — he turned 26 in July — and he’s been worth around five wins as a hitter in around 850 plate appearances thanks to a 135 wRC+. He’ll be arbitration-eligible at the end of this season and won’t be eligible for free agency for another three years. That’s a solid profile to start with and raises his floor, but Ohtani’s ceiling was always going to be determined by what he could add on the mound. He made 10 good starts in 2018 before needing Tommy John surgery that caused him to miss all of last season as a pitcher. A full recovery was expected, but a forearm strain diagnosed after his second appearance of 2020 shut down his throwing again. It’s possible this was merely a minor setback made worse by the truncated season, but the injury concerns necessitate a healthy drop in the rankings. He also had knee surgery last season, which adds more concern. The talent and possibilities for a two-way Shohei Ohtani are still tantalizing, but just 12 starts in three seasons and only three more years before free agency gives him merely good rather than great trade value.

Five-Year WAR +11.1
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2022
Previous Rank #28
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 27 +2.4 Arb2
2022 28 +2.4 Arb3
Arb

I initially had Gallo closer to his 2019 ranking of 28, but I received feedback from multiple sources that I should move him down toward the back of the rankings. Gallo was good in 2017 and 2018, and then was great for half a season last year before a hamate injury halted his breakout campaign. Gallo’s power was off the charts in 2019 and he walked at such a high rate that his 38% strikeout rate was acceptable, but there’s some uncertainty about his ability to maintain that profile and still produce at a high level. With just two more seasons after this one before free agency, Gallo needs to show his 2019 is for real to stay higher in this list, and the shortened 2020 campaign isn’t going to provide him the opportunity to do so. The injuries and shortened season will combine to keep Gallo underpaid over the next two-plus years, but he isn’t quite as valuable as some more consistent players with more years of team control.

Five-Year WAR +10.6
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2026
Previous Rank #HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 23 +1.6 Pre-Arb
2022 24 +2.0 Pre-Arb
2023 25 +2.2 Pre-Arb
2024 26 +2.3 Arb1
2025 27 +2.5 Arb2
Pre-Arb
Arb

The top pick in the 2019 draft, Adley Rutschman has just 155 professional plate appearances, but the switch-hitting catcher has a profile that should lead to success in the majors soon. Before the season started, Eric Longenhagen noted as part of Rutschman’s Top 100 scouting summary that he “has the physical tools to become the best catcher in baseball, provided he stays healthy (he had some shoulder/back stuff in college).” Top-flight defense plus an average bat would make Rutschman an All-Star caliber player. If the bat, which has considerable power, develops into something more, he could be one of the better players in the game. Rutschman is a near-consensus top-five prospect with only The Athletic slotting him below that mark (10th).

He’s unlikely to make his debut this season, and if he doesn’t make next year’s Opening Day roster, he won’t be eligible for free agency until after the 2027 season. It’s been more than a decade since another highly-touted switch-hitting catcher came up for Baltimore, but while Matt Wieters might not have reached his lofty expectations, he did average around four wins per season over his first four full seasons with the Orioles. That’s not a terrible outcome, but Rutschman will have a good chance to exceed Wieters’ performance from a decade ago.

2020 Trade Value, 41-50
Rk Pv Player Age 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
41 HM Adley Rutschman 22 +1.6
Pre-Arb
+2.0
Pre-Arb
+2.2
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Arb1
+2.5
Arb2
42 28 Joey Gallo 26 +2.4
Arb2
+2.4
Arb3
43 16 Shohei Ohtani 25 +2.3
Arb1
+2.2
Arb2
+2.1
Arb3
44 HM Nate Pearson 23 +1.8
Pre-Arb
+1.8
Pre-Arb
+1.7
Arb1
+1.6
Arb2
+1.6
Arb3
45 Jesús Luzardo 22 +1.7
Pre-Arb
+1.9
Pre-Arb
+1.6
Arb1
+1.6
Arb2
+1.5
Arb3
46 HM Keston Hiura 23 +3.0
Pre-Arb
+3.1
Pre-Arb
+3.2
Arb1
+3.2
Arb2
+2.8
Arb3
47 HM Mookie Betts 27 +6.2
$22.9 M
+5.9
$22.9 M
+5.7
$25.4 M
+5.1
$30.4 M
+4.4
$30.4 M
48 24 Jacob deGrom 32 +4.6
$37.5 M
+4.1
$37.5 M
+3.8
$34.5 M
+3.5
$32.5 M
49 19 Xander Bogaerts 27 +4.1
$20.0 M
+3.9
$20.0 M
+3.7
$20.0 M
+3.2
$20.0 M
+2.5
$20.0 M
50 HM Dustin May 22 +2.4
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Arb1
+2.3
Arb2
+2.3
Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb
Team Option
Player Option





Craig Edwards can be found on twitter @craigjedwards.

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Cave Dameron
5 years ago

Thank you Craig, very cool!

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

Not to jump ahead but is there even a scintilla of doubt about #1 this year?

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I think we are all on the Mike Yastrzemski bandwagon at this point.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Depth Chart projections peg dime-store Yaz as being functionally equivalent to Trent Grisham right now, albeit with six more years of seasoning (29 v. 23 years old). At the very least, it seems that his career will have more meaning to it than just being a longtime minor leaguer with a famous grandpa who got a chance in MLB.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I assume the real reason Albies and Acuna took such ridiculous deals is that they were trying to work their way up these rankings.

Max Power
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I think there’s a debate to be had over Acuna vs Tatis despite the lack of an extension for the latter. Though I firmly believe the former has more trade value, some could reasonably differ

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Max Power

I guess if you suspend reason and believe his .398 BABiP and 33.3% HR/FB ratio in 103 MLB games are somewhere close to what he’ll continue to do, you could squint and find a way to minimize Acuña’s four extra years of team control at very friendly prices.

But honestly, even if he does do that, unless he becomes Andrelton Simmons at short stop, I don’t think 4 years of Tatis tops 8 years of Acuña.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Acuna should be 1 even as a padres fan. But your reasoning doesn’t make a good argument, Tatis has a 195 wRC+ this year with a 340 BABIP and batted ball data that supports his power as being insane. Tatis could be a more athletic Stanton at SS (before the injuries). Acuna should be 1 cause of the extra years of service time, just saying the other part of the argument doesn’t hold up

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

His HR/FB rate this year is 40.7% now. That is crazy high. Way higher than Giancarlo Stanton and I’m sorry it makes no sense to believe Tatis will be a more athletic Stanton at short stop. Have you ever looked at Stanton? I mean, physically looked at him?

Nelson Cruz has the highest HR/FB with the new ball (2019-20) among qualified hitters, at 32.9%. That seems like the high end of a prediction for Tatis and even that seems extremely rosy. It is okay to say that yes Tatis shows real elite power without going so far as to say that he might be far and away the greatest power hitter in the history of baseball.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Tatis is putting up exit velo’s in par with stanton’s peak. Will he keep up a 40% HR/FB ratio? Almost certainly not, but being in the 30-35% range is very much in range. Tatis has already hit 10 no doubt homers this year, has the highest exit velocity on a opposite field homer in Statcast era. Just because stanton is bigger does not mean that Tatis doesn’t have that same level power, the data suggests he does.

You can keep ignoring the piling on data if you’d like, but Tatis has a argument of being as high as 2nd best player in baseball. I’d go mookie, but it’s not crazy to suggest Tatis. Obviously his Babip from last year wasn’t sustainable and his true talent isn’t a 195 wRC+ bat, but 150-160 is possible imo

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

If anyone is ignoring anything, it is those that are ignoring basic principles of data regression and honestly basic principles of reality. I very much wish I could shake hands with you on a bet for Tatis’ FB/HR ratio let’s say after 5 seasons with the O/U at 32.5%. I’d take out a second mortgage on my house for that bet. Tatis is great, but 108 games that are so far outside the norm begs for regression and you’d need a blindfold not to see that. He could be the next Trout, or he could be the next Lawrie, or most likely he ends up somewhere very close to the middle, a 5-6 win player.

Look at it this way. The data “piling” up show that he misses almost half the games he should be playing in, 80/186 for his career. But common sense, history, or data analysis would all of course show that this is very unlikely to continue. The same goes for his offensive barrage.

pmartinez45Member since 2025
5 years ago

Looks like most of the players’ 5 year WARs are mistakenly the same.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago

Pretty bullish on pitching prospects this year, and I assume that if these three are here and Gore isn’t, that’s because he’s higher on the list. Maybe Mize, if people aren’t worried about injuries (though I guess that didn’t stop Luzardo). Not necessarily a criticism, just what jumps out at me, since even elite pitching prospects are often dart throws.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago

Never mind! I just read honorable mentions and there’s Mize and Gore. Gosh, not sure I’d rather have any of Luzardo, Pearson or May over Gore. But I guess they are at least in the majors showing what they can do.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago

Gore should have made it imo

Shalesh
5 years ago

Craig had Gore in the HM’s. I don’t think either the oft-injured Luzardo or Ohtani should be in the top50 nor should Gallo with only 2 years of control. I’d have Gore, Adell, and maybe Patino or Trent Grisham ahead of them. I’m assuming Manning & Mize are coming up in the next 10 with Luis Robert and Gavin Lux and Wander Franco are in the top 15.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

mize and manning probably aren’t

mikejuntMember
5 years ago

It’s interesting that May has quite a bit more 5-year war outlook than a bunch of the perceived higher-value, higher-upside prospects ahead of him (Pearson, Rutchman, Luzardo)

I suppose that reflects a higher range of possible upside outcomes for Pearson/Luzardo, but for his average to be that much higher it also reflects a substantial difference in floor. It seems like he’s a little misplaced at 50th.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Right, the reason for this is that there is a lot more minor league data for ZIPS to go off of with May than Pearson and Luzardo (combined they don’t even match May’s IP). But i don’t think that means they are ranked in wrong spot, in fact even with TJ I’d have Luzardo higher than he is. Think he has a insane ceiling +high probability.

bly
5 years ago

re: Betts, An 8% discount rate assumes you’re making typical stock market returns with 0 risk. You could work for the Mets front office with theories like that.

I think you would also need to reinflate his contract to be over the full period for apples-to-apples comparison with Trout.

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  bly

It is highly, highly unlikely, despite historical averages, than 8% will be typical stock market returns over the coming decade. 🙂

Usually, interest rates are used in PV calcs, and interest rates are darn near zero right now.

NathanMember since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

PV calc should be the next best option. You would never use interest rates, at the very least you would use bonds, but honestly 8% return is reasonable. I might switch it to 7% to be more conservative, but there is no reason to think over 10 years we won’t see that return on average.

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

There is no reason to think over 10 years we won’t see that return on average.

Uhhhh… are you kidding? I mean, this isn’t the time or place for it, but if you think 7% is a *conservative* forward 10-year assumption on reasonable IRR’s then you are going to be very, very, very disappointed, unless inflation kicks in heavy and a 7% IRR is meaningless.

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I mean… just because I have like 5 free minutes… if anyone wants a great analysis of projected 10-year forward stock market returns from a starting point of high valuations and low interest rates, I’d recommend this podcast, in particular the discussion that starts around the 8 minute mark.

https://mebfaber.com/2020/07/29/episode-241-doug-ramsey-the-leuthold-group-by-our-interpretation-were-there-i-do-think-its-time-to-be-rotating-away-from-large-cap-growth/

Never mind how low bond returns will be, starting in this yield environment, and knowing that buying bonds today means that they will lose value when interest rates rise at some future date…

Most reasonable projections are for 4-5% stock market returns per year over the next 7-10 years, with bond returns anywhere from 1-2%, and less if interest rates rise sharply… pretty hard to put those together in a diversified portfolio and get a “conservative” 7% return… even the big pension plans, which have long ignored reality in their discount rates, are starting to acknowledge how much things will change.

LenFuegoMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I’ll take the over.

LofSkrif
5 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

You would absolutely use interest rates, which are near zero (less than 1% on 10Y US Treasury). Even including a credit premium, I’d be hard to argue that the discount is above 3.5%.

Doug LampertMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  LofSkrif

Agreed on using interest rates.

Banks loan money for home mortgages at <3% right now. There is some risk in a mortgage, and there are some additional returns for the bank (fees and points and interest on the escrow). But if bankers thought they could do substantially better with minimal risk in another investment vehicle, they would do so.

I expect to do better than 3% over the next 10 years, but I expect to accept some risk to do that. A discount rate of much more than 3% strikes me as very optimistic about return on secure investments.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

The defensive metrics have such different opinions about Bogaerts’ defense that I expected the difference in evaluation to come from that. At least one of those metrics is clearly not measuring something right with regard to him.

Jamessssssss
5 years ago

With interest rates at 1% and the money owed to Betts guaranteed, why are you using an 8% discount rate?

vslykeMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamessssssss

MLB money is growing faster than inflation in the broader economy.

ShauncoreMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Jamessssssss

The MLB CBA calls for the JP Morgan Prime Rate + 1% to be the interest rate. It changes from 1 to 4 times a year (sometimes it stays the same all year) but was at 3.25% as of March. However it has averaged 4.5% over the past 5 years.

So if you use the average + 1% that would be 5.5%. Not quite 8% obviously but much steeper than the 1% treasury rate

Shalesh
5 years ago
Reply to  Shauncore

I like 5.5% as the discount rate since the Equity Risk Premium is currently estimated around 5% and the 10yr T-Bill is 0.5%. (And this fairly, imo, represents Betts’ opportunity cost for having the money now.) Using 5.5% and Spotrac’s numbers for Mookie Betts’ contract, I get $284.4M as his contract’s NPV. If $100M is deferred to the 10 years following 2032, I get $256.4M. So I’m not sure how Craig got $265M with an 8% discount rate since I get $219.4M, but whatever.

tomerafan
5 years ago

I love Ohtani, and I know he has a cult following, but I am really surprised to see him top-50 as a bat-only. He’s been a league-average hitter over his last +/- 300 plate appearances (2nd half of last season and start of this 2020 spring). I don’t want it to be true, and maybe thus far in 2020 we’re just seeing bad BABIP luck, but he’s not hit like a 2-3 WAR player for over a calendar year.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

He is still on his rookie contract and there is no denying the talent. It only takes 1 team to believe in him.

tomerafan
5 years ago

I didn’t say that he has zero trade value. I’m just saying it’s hard to see him as top-50. You think he has more trade value than half the guys in the honorable mention section? I don’t… many of those guys have more pre-arb years left, haven’t had three injuries in three years, etc. Even 2nd/3rd year guys on team-friendly pre-rookie contracts (Eloy Jimenez, Brandon Lowe) look better than Ohtani the batter-only, on paper, and are cheap enough to not make the contract itself an obstacle.

The only way I could buy Ohtani as top-50 is if you think he will pitch effectively again in 2021. As a batter-only, he’s not top-50 material. There’s plenty of other guys with awe-inspiring potential but better actual results at the plate and without the injury concerns.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

He is still young and has a lot of upside. There are a few in the HM section that I would probably trade for him but it would not surprise me if a team disagreed.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Ohtani should be an outfielder/rp. Everything you have ever read said he is amazing in the field as well, and taking his bat out of the lineup to me is the mistake.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I think the bigger thing re: Ohtani is that even if he has like a 120 wRC+ that is only a 2 or 2.5 win player as a DH because the standard for hitting there is so high.

But he is so athletic that I think it doesnt make much sense to evaluate him as a DH only ever: he’s either potentially a pitcher, or you’ve given up on pitching and he’s going to play the field somewhere, because he has the athleticism to do so.

The most likely way that Ohtani has a career as af ull time DH is that he’s always recovering from pitching injuries, but in that situation you’re continuing to pursue the potential pitching value. Otherwise, you’d just give up on pitching, let him rehab his arm to normal player levels, and make him an outfielder.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I agree! But, he still has an arm. Just because something hasn’t been done, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done. Why can he not play the field and pitch in relief? To me that is what would make the most sense at least. I realize how hard it is to pitch and hit at the major league level, but the Angels have I think 4 players in their organization who are at least trying to do that at the mlb/minors level, and other teams do as well.

McKay whenever he gets called up will pitch and play the field both, at least at some point. Cronenworth as well has looked great on the mound in very limited sample. Also by advanced stats he is hitting the ball better than literally everyone in the entire MLB (no joke, somehow).

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

He may still work out as a two-way player, even if he has to wait until 2022 to try again.. The odds of it are just less likely than before. Therefore, he still gets partial credit for his pitching in his trade value.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
5 years ago

The trade value series is always great! Thanks for bringing it again this year!

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
5 years ago

I still think Gallo is too high, am I alone in that?

ShauncoreMember since 2019
5 years ago

Gallo seems like a tough eval. He’s a guy you have to be an “analytical person” to value because of the strikeouts, batting average, and I’m not sure the tape on him shows a +14 defender in the outfield given his size/speed.

But analytically inclined teams know what Gallo is about: best power in the league, ridiculous walk rate, and a good defender at multiple spots.

Obviously anyone coming to FanGraphs falls into the latter group but I think if I were a GM I would have a tough time giving up the requisite value to acquire him based on this ranking. Like, I wouldn’t swap Rutschman for him if my org had Rutschman because I would be betting on the him remaining the three true outcome king for awhile. Certainly possible! But I think there is more danger in his profile in a nuanced, 10,000 foot view than maybe just the sum of his future projected WAR shows.

I really like Gallo and I do think he would make any lineup in the league better but I’m not sure I’d put him in my top 50

dl80Member since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  Shauncore

I agree. I also think Gallo probably has a lower floor than Rutschman though with a higher offensive ceiling. I’m not sure the power ever really fully develops for Rutschman, but a great fielding catcher who is even an average hitter is worth more than Gallo’s floor, which is Adam Dunn with good (not great) corner outfield defense.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Does adley’s defense even matter that much with robot umps seeming like a forgone conclusion?

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

I’m not sure any team that would consider trading for Gallo or Lindor (I.e. contenders) would rather have 2.5 years of Gallo instead of 1.5 years of Lindor.

Accept Gallo as a good defender. Fine. He’s still got a career 115 wRC+ and his numbers last year were buoyed by a not-close-to-sustainable .368 BABiP. I’d take most of the HM list over him, and he wasn’t even #50. He’s sitting there at #42.

Edit: I should clarify that a team like the Padres set at SS could easily prefer Gallo, but any team with a need at SS and outfield/3B/whatever would take Lindor.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago

Here’s my thing with Gallo as a long term asset. The power only guys with big swing and miss…they are very often just a bit of age or a couple adjustments from the floor falling out. This is a player who hit 40 HR two years in a row with a wRC that wouldn’t have made him even a top 50 bat, he is not really that far from negative value.

So the question to me is if you believe that cliff is coming before or after 2023.

rda7529Member since 2019
5 years ago

Can already tell this is a very odd list. Kiley was a lot better at it. I mean Joey Gallo, especially being a FA after 2022 having more trade value than Eloy Jimenez, who is locked in to a long-term, team-friendly extension, is something 30/30 MLB front offices would laugh at. Spend less time crying that the season isn’t being canceled and more time doing basic research perhaps

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  rda7529

You need to learn how to read, and how to comprehend information, and how not to be an asshole. Not necessarily in that order.