2020 Trade Value: #21 to #30

While a shortened season might make this year’s version of our Trade Value Series an unusual one, with the deadline looming, we are not about to break with tradition. For a more detailed introduction to this year’s exercise, as well as a look at those players who fell just short of the top 50, be sure to read the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, which can be found in the widget above.

For those who have been reading the Trade Value Series the last few seasons, the format should look familiar. For every player, you’ll see a table with the player’s projected five-year WAR from 2021-2025, courtesy of Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections. The table will also include the player’s guaranteed money, if any, the year through which the team has contractual control of the player, last year’s rank, and then projections, contract status, and age for each individual season through 2025, if the player is under contract or team control for those seasons. Last year’s rank includes a link to the relevant 2019 post. Thanks are due to Sean Dolinar for creating the tables in these posts. At the bottom of the page, there will be an updated grid showing all the players who have been ranked up to this point.

With that out of the way, let’s continue with the rankings.

Five-Year WAR +13.2
Guaranteed Dollars $39.0 M
Team Control Through 2023
Previous Rank #20
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 28 +3.0 $10.5 M
2022 29 +2.9 $12.5 M
2023 30 +2.6 $16.0 M

After 2020, Blake Snell is owed $39 million over the next three season before he heads to free agency. That might be a little bit more than what Luis Castillo and Lucas Giolito will earn in arbitration, but not significantly so. The 2018 Cy Young award winner had an unusual 2019 that has dimmed his trade value some. He got off to a great start, then dropped a piece of granite on his toe in April and struggled slightly after returning from the injured list, though his 3.56 FIP was still solid. He had loose bodies removed from his elbow in July and pitched in six games in September and October, totaling 10.1 quality innings. On the year, Snell’s FIP was a very good 3.32; given his .343 BABIP, his 4.29 ERA seems to be mostly the result of bad luck. Snell has slowly ramped up his innings as 2020 has gotten underway, and he’s pitched very well so far. While the elbow issues are concerning, his pitching the last few years has been very good and he’s off to a promising start. That keeps his value just ahead of similarly controlled pitchers like Giolito and Castillo, but it is a close call.

Five-Year WAR +15.6
Guaranteed Dollars $19.0 M
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank #29
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 27 +3.5 $4.0 M
2022 28 +3.3 $6.0 M
2023 29 +3.1 $9.0 M
2024 30 +3.0 $12.5 M
2025 31 +2.6 $15.0 M
Team Option

When it comes to elite shortstops, Paul DeJong probably isn’t one of the first names that comes to mind, and that’s fair. He’s been a roughly average hitter, and his defense isn’t very flashy. But that defense actually makes him one of the better fielding shortstops in the game no matter which metric you look at. DeJong’s four-win 2019 put him seventh among his position peers, but of the six players ahead of him, four will be free agents in the next 15 months (Marcus Semien, Trevor Story, Javier Báez, Francisco Lindor) and the other two have already netted $100 million contracts (Alex Bregman, Xander Bogaerts). You’ll see Bregman — along with three other shortstops not yet mentioned — higher up on this list, which puts DeJong firmly in the good rather than great category. His average batting prevents him from climbing any higher on the list and I received some sentiment to drop him down even more. But good performance with five years of team control, just $21 million guaranteed, and a maximum payout that comes in under $50 million is a very good bargain. If you want a better shortstop over the next five years, they better be homegrown and already close to the majors; otherwise, you need to be ready to shell out more than $100 million long-term.

Five-Year WAR +10.5
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #41
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 28 +2.4 Arb1
2022 29 +2.3 Arb2
2023 30 +2.1 Arb3
2024 31 +1.9 Arb4
Arb

Used in relief and the rotation as he began his career, Brandon Woodruff took a star turn in the 2018 postseason, notching a 1.46 ERA, a 1.13 FIP, and home run to help his own cause. Woodruff’s 2019 saw him leave the bullpen behind for good with only an oblique injury preventing a true breakout. In 22 starts, Woodruff struck out 143 batters while allowing just 30 walks. Among pitchers with at least 100 innings, Woodruff’s FIP-, a figure that adjusts for the difficult pitching environment in Milwaukee, was 30% better than league average and trailed only Max Scherzer‘s and Jacob deGrom’s in the National League. Woodruff only got in two September games and a postseason start after coming off the Injured List, but has come out of the gate this season with the same level of effectiveness we saw a year ago. Woodruff will be arbitration-eligible next season, but as a Super Two so there are four more years of team control. That extra year pushes him ahead in the middle tier of pitchers on this list and could keep him pegged this highly on these rankings in the future even as he gets closer to free agency.

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Five-Year WAR +19.9
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2022
Previous Rank #15
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 29 +4.6 Arb2
2022 30 +4.6 Arb3
Arb

This is the highest ranking any player eligible for free agency after the 2022 season achieved. Trading for Aaron Judge means relatively high arbitration salaries, maybe totaling $30 million or more in 2021 and 2022. It also means a high level of injury risk, as the Yankees outfielder has missed considerable time the past two seasons and is currently on the IL for a calf strain. But there’s also the fact that Judge has averaged 6.3 WAR/600 PA in his career and the one time he put together a full season, he won AL Rookie of the Year honors with 52 homers and 8.3 WAR.

The power and the talent are massive. Though he’s already 28 years old, with just two years left before free agency, the years under team control should come pretty close to his present talent before aging takes hold. Even missing all that time the last few years, Judge’s 11 wins since the start of the 2018 season are in line with Cody Bellinger, J.T. Realmuto, and Ketel Marte, and ahead of Juan Soto, Ronald Acuña Jr. and Javier Báez. There’s risk with Judge, but the potential reward is one of the best players in baseball.

Five-Year WAR +22.5
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2026
Previous Rank #HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 23 +4.0 Pre-Arb
2022 24 +4.4 Pre-Arb
2023 25 +4.6 Pre-Arb
2024 26 +4.8 Arb1
2025 27 +4.7 Arb2
Pre-Arb
Arb

Whether for baseball reasons or as nefarious service time manipulation, Gavin Lux was not on the Dodgers’ active roster for the first 20 days of the season, ensuring that the team will have six more seasons of team control after this one despite Lux’s 2019 September call-up. With Lux still not on the roster, the Dodgers might even avoid Super Two status with another 5-7 days at the alternate site.

While Lux’s team control in 2026 matters for his value, it pales in comparison to his expected performance over the next five seasons. Of all the player’s on this list, Lux’s 22.5 projected five-year WAR, courtesy of ZiPS, ranked 13th. His projection pairs well with his prospect status, with no major publication ranking Lux lower than fourth heading into the season, and multiple lists, including FanGraphs‘, putting Lux in the second spot. Lux can probably stay at second base, though defense isn’t his calling card. He’s so high here, and had some advocates for an even higher slot, due to his high contact and power combo. Across three levels last season including the majors, Lux had a .334 batting average, an 11% walk rate, a solid 21% strikeout rate, and hit 28 homers, 29 doubles, and eight triples. Lux is big-league ready now, will likely earn the major league minimum through 2023, and won’t be a free agent until after the 2026 season. Teams are prioritizing low-cost production, and despite little big league experience, Lux’s bat epitomizes the ideal desired by franchises looking to cut costs.

Five-Year WAR +16.8
Guaranteed Dollars $26.8 M
Team Control Through 2023
Previous Rank #31
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 28 +3.8 $11.8 M
2022 29 +3.7 $15.0 M
2023 30 +3.3 $16.0 M
Team Option

The Phillies’ ace doesn’t have durability concerns after making 67 starts and pitching 414.1 innings, the latter ranking behind only Justin Verlander, Jacob deGrom and Zack Greinke over the last two seasons. There were some questions about Nola’s performance, however, after a merely good 2019 season. The 27-year-old righty’s walks went down, his homers went up, and he induced fewer infield flies than he had in his very good 2018 campaign. From 2016 to 2018, Nola’s FIP was about 30% better than league average, and his high groundball rate proved to be a good fit in the hitter-friendly environs of Philadelphia. Last year, Nola was only around 10% better than average, more of a solid number three starter than an ace. While it is still early in the 2020 season, Nola’s start has been promising and might be erasing any doubts after last year. Eric Longenhagen detailed what’s been working for Nola this season, and why this level of performance should stick. Nola will earn around $43 million over the next three seasons, assuming his 2023 option gets picked up. Given the guarantee of $31 million over the next two seasons, there’s slightly less risk than there is with Snell’s contract. With fewer durability concerns and a high level of performance so far this year, Nola’s safety nets him a higher ranking.

Five-Year WAR +22.6
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank #10
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 22 +3.8 Pre-Arb
2022 23 +4.5 Arb1
2023 24 +4.7 Arb2
2024 25 +4.8 Arb3
2025 26 +4.8 Arb4
Pre-Arb
Arb

The consensus top prospect in baseball entering the 2019 season hits the ball incredibly hard. He’s just 21 years old, and his track record in the minor leagues is absolutely amazing. Given that information, Vladimir Guerrero Jr.’s performance in the majors thus far might be characterized as a disappointment. He has been a slightly above-average hitter and a below-average baserunner and fielder. While there were hopes he might be able to stick it out at third base for a little bit, the truncated season helped to force an earlier switch. That means that to be a star in this league, he has to absolutely crush it with the bat, and he hasn’t done that yet. Of course, he’s had periods where he has hammered the baseball, and he looks to be on one of those hot streaks right now, hitting well even though he hasn’t yet been able to get the ball in the air on a regular basis, the trademark of great Toronto hitters over the last decade. His exit velocity numbers are great, he walks at a decent clip, and he doesn’t strike out a ton. But he needs to get the ball in the air to reach his power (and batting average) ceiling; his failure to do so so far has depressed Guerrero’s performance and caused a sizable drop on this list.

The 120 wRC+ Guerrero is projected for the rest of the season will only make him an average player; it’s the 140-150 wRC+ ZiPS projects for him down the road that will make Guerrero a star. He can still get there given his age, but it isn’t as certain as it was a year ago. The Blue Jays still have five more years of team control after this one, years that could either be mildly valuable if Guerrero is an average player or incredibly valuable if he develops like everyone predicted he would. Guerrero’s minor league track record and age are what’s driving his placement here, not his present production.

Five-Year WAR +23.9
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank #HM
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 23 +4.4 Pre-Arb
2022 24 +4.8 Pre-Arb
2023 25 +4.8 Arb1
2024 26 +5.0 Arb2
2025 27 +5.0 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

Vlad Jr.’s teammate has passed him by, both on the field and in these rankings. While Bo Bichette’s knee injury introduces some uncertainty about his future, front offices have taken notice of the shortstop and prefer him to his younger teammate.

Bichette was a highly rated prospect a year ago, in FanGraphs’ top 10, and he produced in the big leagues upon his promotion. In just under 50 games, Bichette put up a 142 wRC+, and did so while playing short. His .368 BABIP was a little higher than can be expected going forward and his xwOBA was about 40 points below his wOBA, but he was a well above-average hitter even when discounting for those factors, and he was off to a fast start this season before his sprained knee. Bichette has held up at shortstop thus far, but isn’t likely to be anything more than average. He is still just 22 years old and the bat will play even if he does move off short. With two more seasons making the major league minimum after this one, and then three years of arbitration before free agency, Bichette’s best years are likely to come at a considerable discount salary-wise. Of all the players on this list, his five-year ZiPS ranks 10th overall. If Bichette can put this injury behind him, he’s likely to move up considerably on this list a year from now.

Five-Year WAR +17.5
Guaranteed Dollars $33.5 M
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #22
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 26 +3.7 $7.5 M
2022 27 +3.8 $11.0 M
2023 28 +3.4 $15.0 M
2024 29 +3.4 $16.0 M
Team Option

When discussing the absence of young, cost-controlled pitchers, consider that since the start of 2017 for pitchers 27 and younger, Aaron Nola’s 14.5 WAR leads the pack, oft-injured Luis Severino is second with 11.5 WAR, and Germán Márquez is third with 11 wins. To combine that level of production with four more years of team control and reasonable salaries is truly rare. Márquez has been more good than great, though it is fair to wonder if good is great when pitching in Colorado. The Rockies’ career leader in WAR for pitchers is Ubaldo Jiménez, at 18. It’s difficult to have sustained success in Colorado and Márquez is in his fourth straight solid year despite pitching half his games in Coors. His strikeout numbers aren’t outrageous, but he limits walks and induces groundballs. At just 25 years old, there’s still considerable potential for the future. He’s only owed $36 million over the next four seasons, with a fourth year option that could take the total to $49.5 million through 2024. Placing Márquez this high on the list might seem a bit much, but again, having this many years of team control at a low salary for a pitcher with a proven track record is pretty rare.

Five-Year WAR +13.2
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #30
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 25 +2.8 Pre-Arb
2022 26 +2.8 Arb1
2023 27 +2.6 Arb2
2024 28 +2.6 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

The Padres’ righty doesn’t have the experience of Márquez, but he does have four more years of team control. And those years come at a much lower cost, with a minimum salary next year followed by three years of arbitration. Chris Paddack put up a good season last year, with homers holding the 24-year-old righty back from something more. His strikeout rate (26.9%) and walk rate (5.5%) were both great, but the 1.5 homer per nine innings kept his WAR at an above-average 2.4 in 140.2 innings. There’s reason to think better things are to come. His fastball and change are already very good, and he’s still developing his curve. The strikeout and walk rates are also very good, and despite the homers, his xwOBA ranked 14th among the 154 pitchers who faced at least 350 batters last season. While reading too much into late-season performance can be dangerous, after a hiccup in mid-August, Paddack’s last four starts saw him strike out 32 batters against just four walks in 23.1 innings. This ranking might look aggressive now based on projections and performance, but it probably won’t seem that way a year from now.

2020 Trade Value, 21-50
Rk Pv Player Age 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
21 30 Chris Paddack 24 +2.8
Pre-Arb
+2.8
Arb1
+2.6
Arb2
+2.6
Arb3
22 22 Germán Márquez 25 +3.7
$7.5 M
+3.8
$11.0 M
+3.4
$15.0 M
+3.4
$16.0 M
23 HM Bo Bichette 22 +4.4
Pre-Arb
+4.8
Pre-Arb
+4.8
Arb1
+5.0
Arb2
+5.0
Arb3
24 10 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. 21 +3.8
Pre-Arb
+4.5
Arb1
+4.7
Arb2
+4.8
Arb3
+4.8
Arb4
25 31 Aaron Nola 27 +3.8
$11.8 M
+3.7
$15.0 M
+3.3
$16.0 M
26 HM Gavin Lux 22 +4.0
Pre-Arb
+4.4
Pre-Arb
+4.6
Pre-Arb
+4.8
Arb1
+4.7
Arb2
27 15 Aaron Judge 28 +4.6
Arb2
+4.6
Arb3
28 41 Brandon Woodruff 27 +2.4
Arb1
+2.3
Arb2
+2.1
Arb3
+1.9
Arb4
29 29 Paul DeJong 26 +3.5
$4.0 M
+3.3
$6.0 M
+3.1
$9.0 M
+3.0
$12.5 M
+2.6
$15.0 M
30 20 Blake Snell 27 +3.0
$10.5 M
+2.9
$12.5 M
+2.6
$16.0 M
31 49 Matt Olson 26 +3.9
Arb1
+3.8
Arb2
+3.8
Arb3
32 50 Luis Castillo 27 +3.3
Arb1
+3.3
Arb2
+2.9
Arb3
33 HM Lucas Giolito 25 +4.3
Arb1
+4.1
Arb2
+3.8
Arb3
34 HM Yordan Alvarez 23 +3.9
Pre-Arb
+4.0
Pre-Arb
+3.9
Arb1
+3.9
Arb2
+3.9
Arb3
35 HM Max Muncy 29 +3.7
$9.0 M
+3.2
$13.0 M
+2.6
$13.0 M
36 Ramón Laureano 25 +3.0
Pre-Arb
+2.9
Arb1
+2.8
Arb2
+2.7
Arb3
37 HM Austin Meadows 25 +3.3
Pre-Arb
+3.1
Arb1
+2.8
Arb2
+2.8
Arb3
38 38 Jorge Polanco 26 +3.0
$4.3 M
+2.9
$5.5 M
+2.7
$7.5 M
+2.7
$10.5 M
+2.2
$12.0 M
39 40 Max Kepler 27 +3.0
$6.5 M
+2.9
$6.8 M
+2.8
$8.5 M
+2.3
$10.0 M
40 39 Jeff McNeil 28 +3.9
Pre-Arb
+3.7
Arb1
+3.5
Arb2
+2.9
Arb3
41 HM Adley Rutschman 22 +1.6
Pre-Arb
+2.0
Pre-Arb
+2.2
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Arb1
+2.5
Arb2
42 28 Joey Gallo 26 +2.4
Arb2
+2.4
Arb3
43 16 Shohei Ohtani 25 +2.3
Arb1
+2.2
Arb2
+2.1
Arb3
44 HM Nate Pearson 23 +1.8
Pre-Arb
+1.8
Pre-Arb
+1.7
Arb1
+1.6
Arb2
+1.6
Arb3
45 Jesús Luzardo 22 +1.7
Pre-Arb
+1.9
Pre-Arb
+1.6
Arb1
+1.6
Arb2
+1.5
Arb3
46 HM Keston Hiura 23 +3.0
Pre-Arb
+3.1
Pre-Arb
+3.2
Arb1
+3.2
Arb2
+2.8
Arb3
47 HM Mookie Betts 27 +6.2
$22.9 M
+5.9
$22.9 M
+5.7
$25.4 M
+5.1
$30.4 M
+4.4
$30.4 M
48 24 Jacob deGrom 32 +4.6
$37.5 M
+4.1
$37.5 M
+3.8
$34.5 M
+3.5
$32.5 M
49 19 Xander Bogaerts 27 +4.1
$20.0 M
+3.9
$20.0 M
+3.7
$20.0 M
+3.2
$20.0 M
+2.5
$20.0 M
50 HM Dustin May 22 +2.4
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Arb1
+2.3
Arb2
+2.3
Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb
Team Option
Player Option





Craig Edwards can be found on twitter @craigjedwards.

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pmartinez45Member since 2025
5 years ago

Thought Bichette would be too 5 for sure.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  pmartinez45

I thought at least top 10 or just outside of that. The blurb doesn’t say where he’d be without the injury, which I didn’t think was too serious, but if he wouldn’t be much higher, that doesn’t really add up considering his pedigree and huge start to his career.

CC AFCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  pmartinez45

If I had Paddack, I’d trade him for Bichette easily

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  pmartinez45

Bichette’s breakout is pretty recent and doesn’t have as much performance history to support it as some other top prospect types, which is why he (and Gavin Lux, who similarly went from fine prospect to amazing one over the last year or so) are not as high on the list as the guys who have always been blue-chip, top-level performers (Wander Franco, for instance). At this tier we have good prospects who recently became amazing and amazing prospects who recently performed merely well (Vladdy). The guys who combine amazing+amazing will be found further up the list.

Cave Dameron
5 years ago

Thank you Craig, very cool!

TimEsquitMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Cave Dameron

I’m noticing a trend…

Cave Dameron
5 years ago
Reply to  TimEsquit

Yeah that Craig has a lot of cool posts, I noticed that too!

London Yank
5 years ago

Judge is a funny one. I’d not be comfortable in a straight swap for any of the people near him on the list. He’s just so good when he’s on the field, and you can actually imagine him being better. However, the reality is probably that he’s just too big to be able to handle the daily grind of a baseball season, and you probably would be better off in the long run with any of those other players I would not swap him for.

mookie28Member since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

totally agree. he’s a great player when he’s on the field but I would never trade anyone near him on this list for him straight up.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  mookie28

That isn’t really how the trade value list works, though, because it’s almost unheard of to trade valuable-now talent for valuable-now talent. Trades of high end players happen between parties with differing competitive timelines. A trade between two teams intending to compete in the same season(s) is almost impossible to make and fairly unheard of in modern baseball. When you see big players move around, it’s because the two parties are interested in competing at different points in time (usually a win-now team and a rebuilder, like the Sale/Moncada trade, or even the Betts trade as it’s evident that the Red Sox are going in that direction now as well).

So it becomes less about how these players would be traded for each other and more an estimate of what kind of prospect return could be garnered for them on the open market. That’s also why seemingly-uneven comparisons (like Paddack vs Bichette) are on this list: Most people would trade Paddack for Bichette straight up in a heartbeat, but that doesn’t mean that the trade returns on the two players wouldn’t be equivalent: There’s a lot more demand for good pitching, because teams need multiple (nearly infinite, if we’re being honest) good pitchers, whereas a number of teams already have high-quality shortstops and would not be interested in giving up a lot of resources to acquire a Bichette. The bidding for Paddack would be equivalent due to the difference in demand, despite the difference in raw player quality. That is always what pushes young, quality pitchers up this list: the demand for their services is near-universal, and no team ever says ‘yep we’ve got enough great pitching’. You can find teams that are set in the middle infield and for whom Bichette is only a marginal upgrade at best. For example, Cleveland, Houston, Boston and the Dodgers would all check in on a hypothetically-available Chris Paddack, while all realizing relatively small to non-existent improvement from slotting Bichette into their present rosters due to the quality of players on the right side of their infields (they might still be interested due to service time concerns or in some cases 2B, but it is still a good illustration of the difference in demand).

SirLancelittle
5 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

I would think he has a lot more value for a rich team (Yankees, Dodgers, etc) than a small market one. If you can afford to have depths behind him, you don’t mind him missing time as much.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

I was watching the Yankees broadcast, and they said Judge was fine. He didn’t even know why he was on the IL, just an abundance of caution.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago

I already see that this is going to be a Tim Anderson free list, but Paul DeJong and Jorge Polanco makes the list.

Tim will never get the respect he deserves in the game because he doesn’t do it like everyone else. No one can tell me that Tim Anderson isn’t a more valuable asset than Paul DeJong or Jorge Polanco. He has the long contract as well, but his game is continuing to grow and improve.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I’m actually trying to see who makes this list if Tim Anderson doesn’t. There are two more new names to be added. I have to believe Jack Flaherty is one. Who is the other if not Anderson?

Also, the respect claim there is pretty childish. He wasn’t good until last year. People thought he wasn’t good because he wasn’t, not because he somehow played the game differently. And what does that even mean? Does he run towards third base after he hits the ball?

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I’m not sure what you mean; even during his batting title last year the predominant theme was “Well, his BABIP was unsustainable.”

Watching Anderson bat everyday is truly a treat; he has come so far and he might have the fastest hands in the game. He was always a raw prospect because he got into the game late, but his tools and his talent is undeniable at this point.

You have to figure Luis Robert is the add that wasn’t on the list last year. Tim Anderson isn’t making this list, and in two months I think that’s going to look silly. I understand it though; Tim is doing it in a way that no one has but for maybe Javy Baez. But it’s Flaherty and Robert.

Tim Anderson didn’t even get an honorable mention. FG didn’t even view him as one of the games 75 most tradeable assets. That’s absurd to me.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

It’s partly reflective of ‘industry-think.’ Guys who swing like Javy and succeed are so rare that it’s more likely to be thought of as a fluke over a single full season. It’s a prove it league if you don’t fit the norm. Even Javy wasn’t getting a ton of love after his initial breakout.

Dejong has put up 3 straight seasons over 3 WAR, Anderson’s done it once (according to fWAR). If Anderson can prove he can sustain his strange K-BB ratio and high BABIP over the equivalent of a second full season I think a lot more people in the industry would buy-in.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

I’m a huge Tim Anderson fan. I think he is a star, and this current breakout is here to stay. His statcast data backs up his performance (not to this level, but as one of the better hitters in the game). I wouldn’t necessarily cite Baez as a great example though, as while the defense has remained great, he had a 114wRC+ last year, and 65wRC+ so far this year. I would say the industry is right about Baez, not the other way around.

And they aren’t even comparable at all, at least in my eyes. Tim Anderson doesn’t strike out like he does, he strike out less than league average by a fair amount, whereas Baez hangs out in the upper 20s-30 rate. Tim Anderson is also faster, and looks to have put on considerable muscle. He also has increased walk rate (though still incredibly low).

Original Greaser Bob
5 years ago
Reply to  carter

Ignore the previous THERE HUNDRED games but look at the last twenty-two games of this f$@ked season.

But seriously dude I’ve been saying the same about Bellinger. Whaddya mean I can’t do that?

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago

LOL he hit 335 last year

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  carter

Fair point on the comp from a skills perspective but the idea is they succeed in ways that are atypical compared to industry norms.

Anderson has been hitting the ball harder which is a good sign and raised the walk rate as you noted. I hope it’s for real because Tim Anderson is good for the game.

Dmjn53
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

You sound like a White Sox fan. Not that there’s anything wrong with loving a player on your team, but it’s going to lead to significant bias

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

I am certainly a fan of Tim Anderson, but I’m stanning for him because he’s made incredible improvements to his game. They are just undeniable at this point in time. He is a different player than he was in 2018, and I don’t think he’s going backwards anytime soon.

Dmjn53
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

A different player sure, but we’re still not talking about an elite shortstop. The batting title is nice, but at the end of the day we’re talking about a 3 win season

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

he had a 3.5 fWAR season in 123 games. That’s a 4.5 fWAR player over a season. If you use bRef he was on a 4.8 bWAR pace last year.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

We will see, but I see an easy argument for why Robert should not be on this list. He was not considered as good as several other prospects in MLB (ranked #6 by FG) and he was given a contract that outpaces similar deals, those given to players with zero service time, to a significant degree. Is less than a month of stellar play really enough to make that package a top-20 trade asset? That makes less sense to me than leaving him off completely does, which to be fair, not including either Anderson or Robert at least as a HM seems very odd.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Yes, given that FG was the low man on Robert and the rest of the industry had him at #1 or #2, and he signed an extension, and now he’s graded out as the best defensive outfielder in baseball (which was one of the ? even though he was dominant in the minors), and he’s also graded out as one of the five fastest players and a good baserunner. This means his floor is a 3 fWAR player who is controlled for 7+ years. He’ll be on the list, guaranteed. If I’m wrong, and the didn’t name Robert among their honorable mentions then that’s more egregious than Anderson.

Given that Robert didn’t make the HM, I think that all but guarantees his placement here. In addition, even if you regress Robert’s offense a little, he’s on a 5 fWAR rookie pace over the course of an entire season.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Preseason prospect rankings
MLB Pipeline: 3
Keith Law: 6
Baseball America: 2

I’d like to see any site that had him 1. Cause they’d lose instant credibility

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Yes, they would lose all credibility for… ***checks notes*** rating a guy who had a 30/30 season across 3 levels with elite defense and base running as the #1 prospect in baseball instead of #2 or #3 because there’s a ***checks notes again*** “huge difference” between being #1 or #2.

Saying a site would lose credibility for rating a 5 tool prospect as the best in the game is ironic, but I guess if you just always defer to the consensus everywhere you’re less likely to look like an idiot.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

You may have to ***checks notes*** double check the word “Ironic.”

martyvan90Member since 2026
5 years ago

But his name is ironic.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Robert is being paid like a 1 win player through 2025 and his defense and baserunning are likely to be worth more than that, even if he is replacement level with the bat.

You can argue they didn’t get a huge discount over going year to year, but they didn’t overpay either. They locked him in to about what he would have made or maybe a little more on average. ZIPS has him worth 6.8 WAR in 2021 and 22, which covers the value of the entire contract if they don’t exercise the options. There is A LOT of potential excess value in that contract, even just looking at his floor. That’s what the list is all about. I would be shocked if he wasn’t on the list.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Robert made this list as soon as he had some success against big league pitching. There’s simply no way Lux (who hasn’t debuted) is higher on this list while a similarly ranked prospect who already signed an extension with two team options (if he’s not worth the $20M they don’t have to pay him and if he’s worth more they get a potentially nice discount) isn’t.

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

The problem is that Tim Anderson has (in his very short track record of success) relied on a BABIP in the .400 range. Sure, he has legitimate speed so his BABIP will likely always be higher than the general .300-ish assumption, but counting on someone to run a .400 BABIP is a bit too much. Add to that his slightly-to-more-than-slightly below average defense at his position and you have a perfectly acceptable shortstop, but objectively speaking he just isn’t close to cracking this list, even with a bargain contract.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Anderson has a 415 BABIP to go with his 380 average this year. Even with a 40-50 point reduction, he’s still leading the league in average in a typical year. His ISO has spiked liked crazy this year in a SSS, and he has cut his K rate for the fifth year in a row while working at bats much deeper, and also walking with greater frequency (although still not a lot).

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I’m all for being downvoted for being that guy who says a guy should be included; I knew that was coming and deserved. To be downvoted for posting a statistical analysis of Anderson’s changes is rather hilarious on fangraphs.

Anderson saw 3.4 P/PA last year and is up to nearly 3.7 P/PA this year. It’s not a huge change but one that shows he’s attacking his pitches more so than all pitches.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I agree with you that it makes no sense for Anderson to not be on the list and is dumbfounding if he’s just not mentioned at all. However, you are being downvoted for how you made your argument, no one around here cares for “he gets no respect” without any accompanying data points or analysis.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I get that but I literally pointed to multiple statistical changes made by Anderson that have had a significant impact on his growth.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Not in your first post, and your other posts are suffering from the Horns Effect due to your first post. Personally, I basically agree with everything you’ve said since the first post.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

You are 100% correct; a fair point for sure. It’s good to be back arguing about pointlessly trivial trade value rankings.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

You’re being downvoted because you don’t understand regression to the mean.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

A couple of reasons. People are still concerned about the mediocre to bad defense, the sky high BABIP, and the low walk rate. His best season so far is 3.5 WAR and most of the position players on this list have WAR projections of at least 4.

Palonco is actually pretty similar with better BB and K rates but only one really good year so far so that’s a fair question to ask, but he has a much more sustainable BABIP, so less downside risk. DeJong has had 3 years of 3+ WAR to Anderson’s one so I think his inclusion is more justified. All three are the same age and are on similar deals but Palonco and DeJong have one more year team control.

He’s not a bad player by any stretch, he’s on a team friendly contract, he’s athletic, and he seems to have improved every year in the league the way you would want from a guy who came late to baseball. But there are a lot of better short stops including the guy they moved out to make room for him (Semien) and the guy they felt they could move because he was he wasn’t a blue chip prospect at the time and Anderson was blocking him (Tatis Jr.).

I’m pretty sure Moncada and Robert have to make the list and I’m a little surprised they are both top 20. Moncada’s AAV of $14M might keep him off, but that’s probably going to end up being a bargain since he looks like a guy with a 4 win floor for the next few years. That’s a lot of excess value.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

No chance Moncada and Robert aren’t on the list, and while I get what you’re saying with Anderson, no player has improved and changed their game more in all of baseball over the previous 18 months than TA7. Development isn’t linear, and Anderson has exploded. Watch his 4 at bats last night, he moved his feet based on every single pitch and pitcher; the homework he has done is remarkable. You don’t see those adjustments everyday by a lot of hitters; Anderson has mastered his craft, and I think we’re just scratching the surface of how good he’s about to be for the next 4+ years.

There is one thing in baseball that is more valuable than anything else, and is the main reason I was always an Anderson guy and that is hand speed. There are other players whose hands are as quick in the games history, but I’ve never seen a player with quicker hands. If you watch the video of the home run last night frame by frame, Anderson doesn’t even move his hands into the zone until the ball is about 6 inches in front of the plate; it’s truly amazing to watch as a hitter who struggled to get around on inside pitches. I can’t even imagine having hands that quick.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Moncada was on the list last year and was not listed as falling off.

dodgerbleu
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Well, at least you’re arational fan.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Anderson’s not going to rate well on this list because his value’s entirely dependent on batting average. Anderson needs to hit .320 or better to be a well-above average major league hitter because he has one of the worst walk rates in MLB. It’s really difficult to believe he’s going to consistently hit at that level.

He’s also already in his arbitration years.

2019 is a huge standout in Anderson’s offensive profile because he hit .337 for the season. If he hits even .300 instead, he’s an average offensive player at best. It is almost impossible to be an above-average major league hitter if you don’t reach base at an above-league average rate. The 2 win/season Tim Anderson of 2018 and earlier is simply not a very valuable trade asset.

DeJong has an extra year of team control and a career 107 wRC+ vs the career 100 of Anderson. There is ample reason to consider him a more valuable trade asset than Anderson, as even if they were equivalent the extra year (at league minimum!) is an enormous upgrade. DeJong also rates out substantially better by defensive metrics (over a win over each of the last few full seasons than Anderson).

Players who derive almost all of their offensive value from their batting average are some of the least-reliable players in MLB, and Tim Anderson is exactly that kind of player. If you walk 5% or less of your PAs, a lot of teams are not going to value you very highly.

I believe that Anderson is an exciting player who is fun to watch and even that the way that he succeeds may be more fun for people to watch than more sustainable forms of production, but the simple reality is that if you don’t walk, your margin for error as an offensive player in MLB is razor-thin, and Tim Anderson doesn’t walk.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

All of that is correct except he is not in his arb years because he sold them out cheap. He makes $4M/$7.25M/$9.5M through 2022, then has team options for ’23 and ’24 at $12.5M and $14M respectively with a $1M buyout in 2023. If he keeps producing just 2 WAR/year there is still some excess value, but I agree it probably isn’t enough to keep him off the list and he is a candidate for decline for the reasons you stated.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

I also don’t think you can say a guy who is sporting a 379 iso has his entire offensive profile tied to his ability to hit for average.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Friend, there’s no such thing as a sustainable .380 ISO. Anderson’s got power! But the simple truth of baseball is that on-base skills are enormously more valuable than power, and it’s -very- difficult for power to make up for below league average on base ability. Anderson hit for reasonable power before his 2019 breakout: he consistently had .150+ ISO. But he was also running .280-.300 OBPs, and so he was consistently below league average offensively (79 and 80 wRC+).

Because Anderson’s walkrate is so bad (less than .020 separation between his batting average and his OBP), he is completely dependent on not just hitting for a good batting average but hitting for an elite one to attain league-average OBP. That profile is one that’s prone to extreme performance fluctuations, because batting average is prone to extreme fluctuations.

Take a search through some recent season leaderboards and sort by BB% ascending (so lowest BB% on top). You will see quickly how uncommon it is to find league-average offense on that end of the leaderboard, and what an enormous outlier Anderson’s 2019 season is amongst them.

In fact, I’ll make another comment and give you a link to the FG leaderboards for the last few seasons (sometimes the filter catches URL links back to FanGraphs itself and flags the comment)

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2014&ind=1&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2014-01-01&enddate=2019-12-31&sort=10,a

Here you go. You can see how rare it is to even be an average offensive player with that kind of walk profile. Teams are not gonna bet on that kind of thing continuing.

I went back to 2014 because it’s also illustrative how few of the guys who did manage to have an above-average season with this kind of profile ended up actually being sustainably good offensive players. The above average seasons are guys like Dee Gordon, Josh Harrison and Adam Jones who did not stay high-quality offensive players and quickly returned to being role-players at best.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I addressed this above, but again… your job as an evaluator is to find the outlier; the special talents that can succeed with unorthodox profiles. It’s not to explain away someone who is unique by saying “it’s too hard so there’s no point in ever adjusting to his value.”

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

No one said it was sustainable; what I said is that his power has clearly become a part of his game that plays up – so he’s not solely reliant on his batting average to produce offensive output.

Also, people hit for high averages; it’s not some out of the ordinary thing. Anderson has a profile that causes his contact to play up as well; his hard hit rate this year is through the roof, and he doesn’t hit infield pop ups. In addition, he has top 10% sprint speed.

I understand entirely that it takes a very unique player and skill set to overcome a lack of walks; I understand why projection systems and models – whose job is to normalize players to the mean – are late to react and doubt a player like Anderson. In general, projection systems are slow to respond to a players change, because in general very few players make the significant changes Anderson has. There are reasons for that, starting solely with the fact that Anderson was late to the game in general.

So while I respect and do projections myself, I also understand that we all understand development isn’t linear and some guys are going to do things with skill sets that the vast majority of players will never be able to do. I understand that some people progress so significantly from one year to the next, and there was no way of projecting it because he was just a unique talent. That’s the job of an evaluator though; to differentiate Tim Anderson from the other guys who don’t walk and fail.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

The number of players who consistently hit .310+ or better is vanishingly low, and it would take a lot more than 1 season to convince me, or probably most MLB front offices, that a player is actually that good, especially one that strikes out as often as Anderson (ie, does not have particularly extreme contact skills as a profile).

Like, Tim Anderson is good. He’s fun. Just enjoy it. There’s no reason to be offended he’s not on a trade value list, and there’s completely understandable reasons why other teams would be skeptical he’s as good as you hope/believe him to be.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

We can agree to disagree; I don’t think there’s any argument to be made that Tim Anderson isn’t one of the 75 most valuable players in MLB.

Again, you keep pointing to something being rare as are justification for why he won’t do it. That’s not an analysis; it’s merely a convenient and easy statistical cop out. By the time you’ll be willing to admit you were wrong about Anderson, he will have gone through all of his value.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I think the difference here is that you think people operate on certainties. This player -will- be good, this player -is- great, this player will -not- succeed. That is not how player assessment and evaluation work.

It is a question of probabilities. We don’t have perfect information – even with Statcast and the like, we’re operation with incomplete information. People are making decisions based on the probabilities of outcomes. Those are informed by what the player does, but also by what similar players with similar performance profiles have done.

Is it possible Tim Anderson is just that good now? Sure, that happens. But the idea that you, or the White Sox, or anyone else, -knows- that, is laughable. There are no certainties. And comparables: Other players with similar performances, profiles, and ages – are very important in predicting the range of possibilities and the probabilities of each of those things happening for a player.

And the simple reality is that almost all of those point away from Tim Anderson being a highly valuable major league asset. It’s not like the other guys who have done what he did – and it has been done before! were bad baseball players. If you go back to 2014 I bet you could find a lot of people talking about how great Josh Harrison’s hitting ability and feel for contact were. He didn’t suck!

But he succeeded in a way that MLB players almost never sustainably succeed in, and he did not carry that success forward.

It is easy when you watch someone all the time to be drawn in (or sometimes drawn out) of an objective valuation of their skills. It is a trap for scouts, front office folks, and fans alike. And it is one that teams use a lot of data analysis to try and overcome and avoid. And all of that analysis points rather strongly towards skepticism about Anderson’s ability to repeat his performance.

It isn’t even about guessing right about Anderson. Maybe you’re right about him, and everyone else is wrong. Front offices aren’t evaluating one player; they’re evaluating dozens. Using a bad process and getting a good result occasionally doesn’t mean you have a good process or that you made a good judgement. You can be wrong and still have the low-probability outcome occur and look brilliant.

If you are so totally invested in your belief about a player that you can’t accept why other people would be skeptical, you’re not making that observation from an objective position or perspective, and there’s little reason for anyone to take your opinions, however strongly held they may be, with any seriousness.

One last thing to consider:

No player in MLB history since integration has managed a league-average offensive career with a walk rate below 3.5%. Only 6 have done it with a walkrate below 4.5% (and none of them were above a 106 wRC+, so only slightly better than average)

In suggesting that Tim Anderson’s performance is at all sustainable, you’re not just suggesting that he’s an outlier: You’re suggesting that a player like him has never existed in baseball history, and that he has a singular, unique skillset that no one else has ever had to produce high quality offense in a way that no one else has ever been able to achieve.

I’m sorry, but the bar for that assertion is incredibly high, and “I believe Tim is good” doesn’t cut the mustard.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I’m More arguing g that Anderson has shown an ability to learn and adjust to his weaknesses time and time again. I’m more arguing his game will continue to evolve in change to maximize his skills which includes walking more.

Soriano first few years a nice example.

TwinPeaks
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I have seen a lot of Anderson and Polanco over the last couple seasons, and also a bit of DeJong, as a Twins fan. Anderson’s reminding me more and more of a SS-playing Vlad Guerrero (not Jr.). It is not surprising that it’s taken him a while to get there since he was so raw, but he’s an elite athlete. If he could gain better plate discipline, he’d be an elite player, but even without that, I’d easily take him over Polanco or DeJong, myself. The fact that he’s starting to turn his crazy tools into production is just too tantalizing for me to pass up.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

While you are correct that is possible to succeed with such an unorthodox batting profile, the issue is that it takes more than one season (and a bit of change so far in 2020) to determine if Anderson is truly one of those exceptions or just had one very lucky career year. That isn’t as much of an issue with a more standard profile.

Cave Dameron
5 years ago

Chris Paddack is 24, not 28 by the way.

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago

It continues to astound me how quickly the general consensus seems to have soured on Vlad Jr. Dude was an above average MLB hitter as a TWENTY year old. There are real things he needs to improve, which Craig touches on, and the defense (or maybe, in his case, “defense”) is obviously concerning. But given his pedigree I think he’s still got a real shot at offensive superstardom. I actually think where he’s placed in this list seems about right, but it just feels like the general baseball-watching public view him much more unfavorably than that.

yaro
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Personally as someone who’s seen quite a few of his games, I’ve been really surprised how bad he is defensively. I mean I understood he wasn’t projected to stick at 3B by many people but to see him play it’s a miracle he even got looks at third in the bigs. Typically when someone moves from third to first you expect them to handle the position fairly easily, it’s just such a shift down on the defensive spectrum and now there are legitimate concerns with his ability to play a reliable 1B day in day out. I do agree I’m not particularly worried about the bat. But his ceiling is just so much lower now as a fringe 1B/DH than it was as a fringe 3B.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  yaro

Maybe he should move to LF like Ryan Braun did after he couldn’t stick defensively at 3B?

snood
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

we’ve all been spoiled by Juan Soto

FrodoBeck
5 years ago
Reply to  snood

And Tatis Jr. And Acuna. And Trout. And Harper.

The bar is now set so high for superstar 20 year olds that it’s completely unfair for guys who develop along a more typical route. And the hilarious thing is that Vlad Jr is far from a typical prospect, we just expect too much now in general.

Dmjn53
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

I just have a really hard time getting excited about a player that’s going to have to DH. No matter how elite the bat ends up being, I’m always going to put more value on a player that brings defensive value

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  Dmjn53

There are always exceptions like Edgar Martinez and David Ortiz, but yeah there’s only so much value you can get (even after ignoring the unfair WAR defensive penalty for DHs) for a guy who should be a primary DH for most of if not his entire career.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

The issue is that it’s been clearly shown that you just can’t exchange ground balls for fly balls, so this is probably who he is.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago

Has that been clearly shown or are you (hopefully) being sarcastic?

It’s true it varies by player whether or not the adjustment can be made but there is no concrete evidence that GBs can’t be exchanged for FBs.

-JD Martinez reduced his GB/FB ratio from the Astros to the Tigers/Red Sox
-Hunter Pence lowered it after his swing change last year (seems to have lost it this year)
-Justin Turner significantly lowered his GB/FB ratio after his first year with the Dodgers

It’s not necessarily easy and there’s a lot more failures we don’t hear about than successes we do. But to say it’s clearly been shown is just 100% incorrect.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

Haha I am being sarcastic, since the storyline for the past 4+ years has been people ‘trading ground balls for fly balls’

mikejuntMember
5 years ago

Its both, though, as there are plenty of stories of guys who have never been able to do that successfully even when it would clearly be to their advantage, and while its often treated like those guys just don’t believe it or aren’t willing to try, there’s a good deal of evidence that some of them have tried and simply not succeeded. Not every swing can be re-tooled in the same way to add lift, and if it were that simple you wouldn’t have guys like Eric Hosmer who can never figure it out. Maybe Vladdy can figure it out, it’s certainly possible – but we shouldn’t act like it is probable or easy or straightforward.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I think we all agree it’s not easy and doesn’t work for every player. The success rate – as measured by swing changes that lead to positive contributions at the ML level – is very small.

That said, every swing can be physically retooled to add lift because it’s 100% a change in bat path / mechanics. Something we all are capable of.

Changing a swing and being successful with that swing are 2 distinct events. The change is relatively easy through repetition. Actually succeeding with a new swing is much more difficult and using a new swing against major league pitching only amplifies the difficulty.

Maybe bat speed slows down with new mechanics as the player’s kinesiology isn’t optimal for a swing or some other physical, mental, or biomechanical factor leads to worse outcomes with the new swing.

I do think there are a sub-segment of players who have attempted a swing change but weren’t successful simply because they weren’t invested enough in the endeavor to eventually succeed (anecdotally I think Hosmer is in this category, TBD if he could actually succeed should he fully commit, though we may be finding out this year – https://www.pitcherlist.com/eric-hosmer-is-lifting-off/).

Mentally it’s probably most difficult for a player who has reached the majors to make the change as has been hinted at by several players. Hunter Pence spoke about this last year. He was having success in the majors with his previous swing and didn’t want to mess with that. But he recognizes that had he committed to the changes he made last year earlier in his career he may have been an even better hitter for more of his career. The incentive wasn’t really there for him until he was on the brink of being out of baseball.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Honestly I have some optimism still on vlad but I think his placement is generous, not sour. He has to learn to lift the ball, he’s hitting the ball hard yes, but he’s hitting it hard on the ground. To be a 3+ win guy he has to be much more than a average hitter and lift the ball

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

The big part of the souring of the consensus is how rapidly he’s changed to a DH-only profile. The offensive bar to cover to be a very valuable DH is incredibly high. Vladdy will need to be a top 20-25 hitter in all of baseball in order to be a significant asset as a DH only player – he’s got to be JD Martinez or Nelson Cruz in order to be a star. That’s a ton to ask of any player. Vladdy’s got a better chance than most of reaching that level, but you can’t really project anyone to hit like that until they’ve actually done it for a while, and he hasn’t yet.

Also, the same lack of athleticism that forced him off the position is a negative indicator for other long-term factors like risk of injury. Very young players with ‘old player skills’ have an established tendency of aging poorly, since they don’t have any athletic advantages to fall back on. Vladdy’s that kind of player now.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Then again, if he quickly winds up as a primary DH, that also leaves him with less chances to get injured. It still doesn’t help with potentially aging poorly, though.

Victory Faust
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Vlad will get it from both sides, though.

For statheads, It’s worth remembering that Vlad’s projection wasn’t just “good player for his age”, it was “the best projection ZiPS has ever given a position player prospect”. He underperformed last year by roughly 2.5 wins and 20 points of OPS+ (in roughly the same amount of playing time as ZiPS gave him). Underperforming his projection by that much has to hurt his future value (and indeed, in this years ZiPS he had less future value than Bo).

For non-statheads, you contrast his HR Derby performance to his groundball heavy performance in games, throw in his defensive issues, his conditioning issues, and being surpassed by Bo and even Biggio (by performance), and lots of people were going to sour on him quickly given how much he was hyped by the team as the saviour of the franchise.

I agree that he can bounce back from his poor debut, but unless he’s a consistent all-star he’ll be seen as disappointing.

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
5 years ago

I’ll take a stab at the rest of the list. I’m probably too high on some of the youngsters and I didn’t do a ton of research but here goes…

1. Tatis
2. Acuna
3. Soto
4. Franco
5. Robert
6. Albies
7. Bellinger
8. Bregman
9. Chapman
10. Alonso
11. Yellich
12. Trout
13. Buehler
14. Flaherty
15. Marte
16. Devers
17. Torres
18. Moncada
19. Ramirez
20. Soroka

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

I think there’s no way Acuna isn’t #1 with that insane extension he signed. But yeah probably just flip him and Tatis at1 & 2. And I think Soroka is off the list entierely b/c of his injury. Robert maybe a bit too high? Other than that though not too much to argue with after just a cursory glance.

AJSKENSTON
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Acuna #1 100% agreed

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  AJSKENSTON

Ok, glad to hear you guys say that. I actually like Acuna over Tatis but I thought the industry consensus would be Tatis. I also totally forgot about Bieber. And you guys are right on Soroka, just seeing the HM article says he’s not returning to the list.

CC AFCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

Bieber’s the #1 pitcher for me

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

Yander Franco at #4 is absurdly high, imo.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I think what gets lost in a lot of these lists is that unknown; sure Franco is a big time prospect, but so was Vlad Jr. Prospects are prospects for a reason. Franco is spectacular for his age at his level, and history tells us plate discipline at his levels results in a lot of success.

But are people really going to sit here and argue that the majority of teams in MLB would trade Mike Trout for Yander Franco? Please. Trout is maybe the greatest player of all-time and he’s locked up and improving. It’s things like that that make these lists fun, but obviously just not a real reflection. A team who is trying to win would trade three wander franco’s for Mike Trout, because finding a Mike Trout is the hardest thing to do in baseball.

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

You are missing Bieber. It’ll be interesting if Robert does in fact come in that high, because I don’t think he’s established himself well enough, or was well enough viewed as a prospect, to come in above some of the more highly paid yet establishes stars.

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago

Good call – Bieber somewhere in there instead of Soroka.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago

I agree on Robert. His debut has been tremendously exciting, but it’s still just 95PA with a 130wRC+, a 34% K rate, and a 380 BABIP. I’d like to see 500PA at that production level before he goes in the top 10.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Not really; given that Robert has proven in his debut that his floor is likely higher than most any prospect above him. He has shown that he will be one of the best, if not the best, defensive CF’er in baseball and one of the games elite base runners.

His bat playing as well as it has so far is just more excitement about his ceiling.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I get that you love all the White Sox. But “he has shown that he will be one of the best, if not the best, defensive CF’er in baseball and one of the games elite base runners”? That’s Billy Hamilton.

I think it’s more likely than not he’ll be a star. I suspect we all do. There’s just a little too much uncertainty for me to like him in the top 10 without a little more data.

Nobody towards the top of the list is getting traded anyway.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

What? Billy Hamilton?

I dislike plenty of White Sox. It just happens I like good ones.

Billy hamilton had zero power. Robert already is atop of OAA leader board in the outfield.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

I’m struggling to see how Franco could jump that much from last year. Since last year he has played a handful more games at A+, six struggling games in the Dominica Winter League and a taste of spring training.

I’d also definitely move up Bregman, Trout, and Yellich.

And Acuña at #1 is a lead pipe cinch.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

It is really hard to imagine a young, established MVP candidate with team control (just about everyone in the top 10) getting traded for a prospect who hasn’t played above high A, no matter how promising he may be.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Franco I think will be in the teens

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

Soroka is in the ‘not returning this year’ list in the HM article, due to his achilles injury.

dukewinslowMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Uncle Spike

Albies higher because he’s basically playing for free

AJSKENSTON
5 years ago
Reply to  dukewinslow

Ive got albies at 2. Is he better than soto or tatis? no probably not, despite a pretty legit track record of his own. Would i take those extra years at that cost? hell yeah

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago

Lamet’s lack of inclusion on any list (including the honorable mentions) surprises me. I did not expect him to be this high to be clear but a in my view top 30 arm with 3.5 years of control till FA eligibility i would have thought to at least make honorable mention (though imo probably should be in the 40s or so). I am a padres fan so i do have bias admittedly but i’m confused. Also i’d have paddack a tad lower

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Lamet has already used 2 full years of service time and has never pitched more than 110 innings in a season, and while doing so has never dominated in the way that most of the MLB pitchers on this list have.

It is not super surprising he doesn’t make the cut; there’s a lot of ‘incredible stuff, can’t stay on the field, haven’t quite realized dominance’ pitchers out there, and Lamet is not particularly distinguishable from that group.

Lamet has pitched 210 innings over 2 full seasons with a career FIP of 4.00. That’s fine, but it’s not a super valuable trade asset given all the missed time and results that are better described as good than great.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

Lamet’s only really issue on the field is the lack of ground balls which does hurt the ceiling. But the whole 110 innings thing is accompanied by one injury (he also pitched more that season in the minors) and a elite strikeout rate. He’s also improved a lot since his rookie year against lefties. Some players in honorable mentions include Zac Gallen and Kyle Hendricks, who Lamet has considerably more trade value than at this point. Lamet is also like a more developed Pearson who barely made the list. Don’t see how that’s not deserving of a mention

AJSKENSTON
5 years ago

My stab at t he rest of the rankings. I think there is a clear top 5 btw
1 Acuna
2 Albies
3 Tatis
4 Soto
5 Franco
6 Bregman
7 Bieber
8 Trout
9 Bellinger
10 Buehler
11 Flaherty
12 Robert
13 Gleyber
14 Devers
15 Chapman
16 Yelich
17 K. Marte
18 Yoan
19 Pete Alonso
20 Ramirez

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  AJSKENSTON

Are Alvarez and Alonso really this different in value? They both pretend to play the field leaving them entirely reliant on their bat to carry. I personally like Alvarez’s bat a good bit more than Alonso with health being the major ding on Alvarez. I struggle to see how there could be such a chasm in the rankings between the two.

If Alonso is ahead of Vlad Jr. I fail to see how Alvarez isn’t and vice versa.

AJSKENSTON
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

While I actually agree, i think all three should be grouped relatively close, i was just picking from the 20 remaining players. and in reality i think the difference between the FV of those guys even in these rankings is close enough. FWIW id go Vladito, Alvarez (think he had the best bat), then alonso. None would be in my top 20

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  AJSKENSTON

Totally understand you were choosing based on what was left. More confused by Craig’s rankings themselves, though my comment is poorly timed given the Alvarez news that he could be done for the year.

AJSKENSTON
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

I think there may be a bit of over-weighting here to the bichette and alvarez injuries

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  AJSKENSTON

That and the relatively small sample sizes for both of them I suppose. But I think both are low.

ScottyBMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

Yes they are. Alvarez May be 2 years younger (although both of their pre-FA contracts go through their primes), but Alonso is healthier, plays a competent first base, and has shown he can hit 50+ home runs.
Alvarez is already only a DH and has had multiple injuries. He can rake, but it’s totally understandable why he’d be ranked below Pete.

AJSKENSTON
5 years ago
Reply to  ScottyB

Alvarez was the better hitter last year, albeit with less appearances. Alonso was a mediocre 1B (-3 DRS, 1.8 UZR) fielder. He is both older and will hit free agency a year earlier. I dont think he will continue to man the field (I think he should DH and let Dom Smith play first). Additionally, when asked to play the outfield, Alvarez wasnt a black hole out there, so i could see some teams being more creative than sticking him at DH. I agree its understandable, but I think its a pick ’em more of a solid argument in petes favor.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  AJSKENSTON

While it may very well happen, you still can’t just assume that the DH is coming to the National League any time soon. If it doesn’t, then Alonso will still be playing 1B for at least a few more years.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  ScottyB

You and I may have different definitions of competent regarding Alonso’s defense. Only UZR viewed him positively last year at +1.8 while Statcast OAA had him at -3 as did DRC. None of those figures can be considered stable and UZR is down on him to start this season even if it’s still just noise.

Given that Alvarez could now be out for the year with what could be a chronic knee issue, I see the argument for Alonso over Alvarez. And the knee issue + poor playoff performance last year leave a larger degree of uncertainty.

Craig did mention in the write up on Yordan that there was greater variance of opinions on Alvarez as some felt he should be higher and others lower so it feels as if he ended up splitting the difference to reflect the variability rather than committing to a higher position.

I don’t see how hitting 50 home runs is relevant, Chris Carter hit 41 in 2016 and is no longer in baseball. Alonso is obviously a much better hitter than Carter, but Alonso’s wRC+ lagged behind Alvarez’s last year (admittedly in a full season versus a half for Yordan) and his K (~1 percentage point) and BB (~4 percentage points) rates were worse.

Ultimately I think I’ve now talked myself into Alonso over Yordan but Yordan still feels too low in the rankings.

phillipmike02
5 years ago

Surprise to see Vladdy and Bichette so low, and behind guys like Paddack and Marquez.

They project Vladdy to be on average a 4,5 WAR player with a pre arb and 4 arb years. 5 Years of Control
They project Bichette to be on average a 5 WAR player with 2 more pre-arb years and 3 arb years, 5 Years of control.

They project Paddack to be on average a 2.7 WAR player with a pre arb and 3 arb years. 4 Years of Control
They project Marquez to be on average a 3.5 WAR player with a contract averaging him 12M a year and a team option of 16M. 4 Years of Control

Vladdy and Bichette are cheaper players than Marquez, project to have a much higher WAR with more years of control. Vladdy and Bichette have the same potential financials as Paddack but they double Paddack in projected WAR with an extra year of control. Makes no sense to me that Paddack and Marquez are seen as having more value than than Vladdy and Bichette, zero sense.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  phillipmike02

I covered this above, but the thing you’re not factoring in is that these rankings are not about 1:1 comparison (would you trade Paddack for Bichette), because that trade doesn’t ever happen: its about the return you’d get for that player on the open market (which is almost always in prospect capital).

While the pitchers you listed are less valuable than the position players, demand for the pitchers is dramatically higher: Every team in MLB has an inexhaustible hunger for high-quality pitching. You can find teams for whom a Bichette is a marginal upgrade or only an upgrade in terms of cost and years of control (say, the Astros, or Dodgers, or even the Red Sox right sides of the infield), but there’s no team in baseball that wouldn’t gladly add a Marquez or a Paddack. That huge gap in terms of demand (because you need so many pitchers, but only one shortstop) mean that the pitchers would return similar value to the position player despite ‘inferior’ value. Now, if you need BOTH pitching and a shortstop, you’d rather get Bichette. But trade return is dictated mostly by the number of teams interested and the competitiveness of the bidding, and the market for good young pitchers is pretty much always ‘all 30 MLB teams’, whereas the market for a good shortstop is significantly smaller.

dukewinslowMember since 2020
5 years ago

No wander Franco yet? Did I miss something?

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  dukewinslow

Yes, you missed the final two parts of this series from the future!

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  D-Wiz

That is a very astute comment.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago

I feel like I see a trend here. People have a hard time giving up on what they feel for a player, even after there is data to show otherwise. Bichette, while a prospect, wasn’t expected to mash right out the gate. Vlad was. Lux is another case where the on field hasn’t really lined up with what people expected from him. He hasn’t had a large sample, but he looked entirely lost in spring training. Anyone who is suggesting it is service time manipulation didn’t watch him in spring training. Couldn’t hit, couldn’t play defense.

Antonio BananasMember since 2026
5 years ago

Are we really not worried about Vlad Jr’s weight? He’s only 21 and is obese. Athlete or not, that’s not a good sign.

If it doesn’t improve, what are the chances his first 3 years in the majors are his best?

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

Even really fats guys are generally fine into their 30s. No Vaughn, Prince Fielder, Pablo Sandoval. All these guys were at least 28 before falling apart. Miguel Cabrera was a beast into his mid-30s. Who are your examples of 24-year-olds declining due to weight?

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Agreed. I don’t really think weight is a huge factor with him. Defense and not hitting the ball maybe, but not weight. It is funny how our standards for what is fat has changed, because I remember thinking Mo Vaughn was huge too, but at least for most of his early career he wasn’t as big as I remembered.

Antonio BananasMember since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Not a huge sample to base it off of because most 290 pound 21 year olds don’t make it to the big leagues.

Sandoval is probably a good comp but I’d say he was more athletic than Vlad Jr

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

I’m not sure why getting to the big leagues early makes a difference here. Also, 290 seems like an exaggeration. He is definitely carrying a good deal of extra weight, but he doesn’t look as round as Sandoval does or did.

But the point stands. Vlad’s trade value is for the years of team control and that is through age 26. His weight could hamper his career down the line, but for purposes of his trade value it is close to a nonissue.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago

The weight is only one of his problems. Craig, being an industry insider, cannot bring himself to actually say that Guerrero is not merely a below average defender but, in reality, is looking like one of the worst defenders to ever trot out onto the baseball diamond, and trot is all he can do because he is so heavy he also ranks at the extreme bottom of the list as far as base running goes. This is a DH and nothing more and he isn’t doing much of a Nelson Cruz impression with the bat either.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Sure, I totally agree that he looks one dimensional, but there is no reason to think his weight will hurt his ability to hit. If he doesn’t hit, I think it would be preposterous to blame it on carrying a little extra weight.

shaq_diesel
5 years ago

Brandon Lowe should be on this list. In the honorable mentions, you said he didn’t have a long term contract. You should have researched that. Lowe has had a long term deal for over a year. Put simply, Evan Longoria never OPS’ed .900 once in Tampa Bay’s HR suppressing environment. Brandon Lowe is nearly averaging a .900 OPS, while playing adequate defense at second base. He’s making 4 MIL per year for the next 6 years, and has 2 team options.

You really should have researched his contract, because Lowe clearly belongs on the list with his deal.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Craig Edwards

That just goes to show that “not enough people” recognize talent even when it stares them in the face.

TwinPeaks
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

I can understand him not being on the list, but he’d be on my list for sure.

hobbes020
5 years ago

Lux being manipulated is a disgrace, the Dodgers should be ashamed.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  hobbes020

I normally wouldn’t defend a team, but if Lux was in a position to help the Dodgers right now I don’t see why they would keep him down. Apparently despite his defensive gifts he can’t make accurate throws to 1st and it is a re-occurring problem. If I’m the Dodgers, with their depth, I’m making sure the kid figures it out through instruction and repetitions at the alternate site versus potentially costing them games in the majors.

This isn’t a ‘his defense isn’t ready line’ it’s an actual issue.

https://thinkbluepc.com/2019/03/12/dodgers-prospect-watch-gavin-lux-continues-to-adjust/

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  hobbes020

History and context both matter. The Dodgers have a recent history of calling up prospects when they are ready to help the team, without regard to service time manipulation (Buehler, Bellinger, and Seager come to mind). There are also legitimate reasons to keep Lux off the major league roster until he can make accurate throws across the diamond, as compared to what they already have on the roster. Said differently, the Dodgers don’t need Lux’s bat (given what they already have) as much as they can’t afford the drop in defense. There’s nothing to be ashamed of here.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Could Lux have Steve Sax, Chuck Knoblach Disease? Baseball is unbelievably reluctant to admit that such a “Thing” exists.