Elegy for ’18 – Seattle Mariners

Seattle will likely have to replace the bat of Nelson Cruz.
(Photo: Keith Allison)

One would think that setting a 15-year record for wins would feel more satisfying than it ultimately did for the 2018 edition of the Mariners. Alas, the world is as cruel as the Wheel of Fortune suggests: consonants are free but you have to pay for vowels. The A’s finished ahead of the M’s, giving the former club a place in the Wild Card Game.

The Setup

One of the defining features of the Seattle Mariners during the Jerry Dipoto regime is that the payroll has increased — from among the bottom 10 in 2012-13 to the back of the top 10 in 2018 — even though the club hasn’t been particularly active in free agency or signing young talent to long-term extensions.

Dipoto is a great churner of talent who makes a lot of trades and a lot of minor signings and has a pretty decent rate of success on these moves. For example, I was skeptical that the trade of Tyler O’Neill for Marco Gonzales wouldn’t work out for the team — and while there is certainly reason to worry about it over the long haul, the latter did give Seattle a pretty solid 2018 season, with a 3.43 FIP in 166.2 innings.

Going back to the ill-fated Chone Figgins signing after the 2009 season, the Mariners have signed free agents to $20 million contracts only twice, giving a decent-sized deal to Nelson Cruz and a ginormous one to Robinson Canó.

Without really a whole lot to offer in terms of prospects, the Mariners have managed to acquire, going back to the end of 2016, Yonder Alonso, Alex Colome, Zach Duke, Jarrod Dyson, Roenis Elias, Dee Gordon, Mitch Haniger, Ryon Healy, Mike Leake, Cameron Maybin, Jean Segura, Denard Span, Sam Tuivailala, and Adam Warren. That’s multiple legitimate starting position players and pitchers, half of a decent bullpen, and some useful role players. Also Yovani Gallardo, but let’s pretend that didn’t happen because this is a family site.

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Dipoto’s had to be clever, but when an organization’s farm system isn’t regularly churning out talent and the team isn’t participating for top free agents, it’s necessary to hit on a lot of these low-cost moves to succeed. Not many such deals must fall flat for a club to end up with a low-upside roster and no obvious path to quick improvement.

My main concern about the Mariners entering the 2018 season was how and when they were going to compensate for the decline of King Felix. The 2015-17 seasons made it clear that we were in a post-monarchy era, and the team’s rotation depth was shallow enough that James Paxton wouldn’t be capable of replacing all that was lost. While I wasn’t hopeful about Hernandez making a comeback in 2018, I was optimistic that Kyle Seager, one of the game’s most underrated stars from 2013 to -16, could bounce back from a weak age-29 season.

Seattle seemed like a legitimate playoff contender coming into the season, albeit one that could have made a splashier move to add a pitcher. (Though, with the benefit of hindsight, signing Yu Darvish would not have actually done much for them in 2018, at least.)

The Projection

ZiPS was more pessimistic than I was about the Mariners, projecting them at only 78-84 with an 11% chance of making the playoffs. This difference was one of the larger disagreements I had with the algorithms before 2018 ,and I think this was one I won.

The Results

Ultimately, the Mariners’ season was far from terrible — and, in fact, the club had more than its share of luck in several areas. King Felix was worse than I think even most pessimists imagined and was the weak spot in a starting rotation that, while still missing an answer to most of the contenders at the top, turned out to be better than they had any right to be. In the end, the rotation finished a quite-respectable 13th in baseball in WAR, beating out a number of playoff teams in the process, including the Cubs.

Kyle Seager’s decline became more pronounced, enough so that now there are questions about his future in the majors. But the Mariners got a full season of Mitch Haniger playing at the level of a legitimate star, hitting .285/.366/.493 with 4.6 total WAR for the year.

Edwin Diaz also firmly established himself as a first-tier closer, not just avoiding his occasional lapses of control but eradicating those issues with the brutality of a Death Star. Of the 250 pitchers with 30 innings in relief, Diaz had the 27th-best walk rate, which he combined with the fifth-best contact rate. And he did that without sacrificing anything from his 97-98 mph fastball.

There was certainly a bit of luck for Seattle, who outperformed their Pythagorean record by 12 wins, a difference that can’t simply be attributed to Diaz and the rest of what was an above-average bullpen. Exceeding expectations, both from overall expectations and the RS/RA relationship, Seattle stayed close to the Astros for the entire first half of the season, including a two-week period in June where they were in first place. Seattle’s high-water mark came on the morning of June 5th, with a 38-22 record and a two-game lead in the division.

The offense largely held up, though Dee Gordon’s .252/.271/.332 after the aforementioned date was a major disappointment. Guillermo Heredia didn’t maintain his 124 wRC+ either; then again, nobody really expected that to happen. The Cano/Cruz/Haniger troika kept wailing away, and the team’s 99 wRC+ the rest of the season wasn’t that far off the 105 they had at that point.

The decline of the starting pitching was more severe, with a 4.63 ERA from the rotation, a performance that was across-the-board rather than the product of one or two perpetrators.

Surprisingly, Seattle’s early-season good fortune in Pythagorean record held up, and the team continued to outperform its expected record. The Mariners finished with a 14-1 record in extra-inning games, which while leading to some exciting contests — especially for our Seattle-heavy FanGraphs crew — is not the kind of thing that you ought to expect in 2019.

Mariners vs. Pythagoras, 2018
Time Period RS RA Pythag Expected W-L Actual W-L Diff
Through 6/5 262 239 .546 33-27 38-22 +5
After 6/5 415 472 .436 44-58 51-51 +7

The bigger problem was the emergence of the Oakland Athletics. On D-Day, Oakland stood at 31-30, fourth place in the division and closer to the last-place Rangers than the first-place Mariners. Oakland went 66-35 after that, a pace that the Mariners couldn’t come close to matching; even the Astros, the best team in baseball over this period, bested Oakland by only a half-game. In the Cinderella vs. Cinderella throwdown, elephant trumped moose. (I guess this is more a Dumbo vs. Frozen throwdown.)

As the deadline approached, the team’s roster construction presented problems with possible trade pickups. The formula of floods of small trades and low-cost free-agent signings left the team poorly constructed to pull off any July/August stunner that could twist the storyline. While they did make several pickups and improved the team (Duke, Maybin, Tuivailala, Warren), something like a Manny Machado trade likely could not have been made with the prospects at their disposal. And in the end, it may have been good that it wasn’t possible; with the Mariners finishing eight games behind Oakland, acquiring Mike Trout wouldn’t have changed the 2018 outcome.

What Comes Next?

Let’s start with the assumption that, when all is said and done, the Mariners’ roster is equal to something like a .500 team, more or less splitting the distance between their actual and expected 2018 record. Where I have trouble with this organization is, where do they go from here? Where is the source of upside?

The team isn’t escaping from many financial commitments in 2019, at least those that would allow them to be players for a top star in free agency. The team already has $124 million in guaranteed contracts locked up for 2018. Very importantly, that figure doesn’t include Cruz, whose offense they will have to replace somehow — and may have needed to anyway, what with Cruz turning 39 during the 2019 season.

Baseball-Reference’s estimate, just based on the players they have now, bakes the Mariners in as having a $173 million payroll with all options being picked up. It’s $160 million without. Already having to replace Cruz’s offense leaves Seattle precious little room to improve further beyond that. The team isn’t picking up Span, which saves $8 million, but I can’t see an easy route to make this team better without going over the $200 million mark, even jettisoning Erasmo Ramirez via non-tender for additional savings.

With Canó still able to play a more-than-respectable second base, it’d be nice if Seattle found a taker for Gordon if they no longer believe in him as a center fielder (not unreasonable given his -8 by DRS, -5 by UZR in 50 starts). I don’t think they have an easy out in that manner, though, as Gordon’s trade value was likely not inflated much by a 2018 that ended up around replacement-level.

Improvement is also not likely to come from within the system. The team doesn’t seem all that interested in Daniel Vogelbach and even an optimist won’t see him displacing Ryon Healy and becoming a three-win player in 2019. The Tacoma Rainiers were full of veteran and fringe talent, as well: the under-25 hitter with the most plate appearances on the team was Sebastian Ochoa with 21. Nor was the pitching much better.

The team’s limited number of prospects are generally farther from the majors, and I’m not confident in Kyle Lewis or Evan White becoming 2019 contributors. Matt Festa and Art Warren could fill out the bullpen, and Braden Bishop could conceivably give the team what they were missing without Dyson fairly quickly, but I don’t see the near-future game-changers here.

Dipoto may have to wheel-and-deal this offseason as in the past — but, again, that’s a strategy that’s a bit like juggling chainsaws: it’s a great bit until you slip up. I’d like to see the team go after Dallas Keuchel and Michael Brantley, but I’m not sure they’ll even spend that much in free agency.

Way-Too-Early Projection – Mitch Haniger

With reasons to be more pessimistic about Kyle Seager than last year at this point and Nelson Cruz not currently under contract, Seattle has a lot invested in Haniger’s 2017 and -18 being essentially the baseline expectation for his performance going forward.

ZiPS Projections – Mitch Haniger
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB + DR WAR
2019 .270 .343 .465 563 81 152 32 3 24 84 56 142 8 123 6 3.6
2020 .267 .341 .467 535 77 143 32 3 23 80 54 134 8 122 6 3.4
2021 .268 .343 .470 519 74 139 31 4 22 78 53 126 8 124 5 3.4
2022 .264 .339 .454 500 69 132 29 3 20 73 50 118 7 118 5 2.9

OK, there’s a wee bit of regression there, but nothing that drastically changes how Seattle should consider Haniger. He’s likely established being a solidly above-average player on the very edge of All-Star level in his better-than-mean years. A team with nine Mitch Hanigers in the lineup is a good bet for the playoffs — assuming that a couple of the Haniger clones can handle shortstop and catcher of course. After inventing a player-cloning machine, would getting Mitch Hanigers to play shortstop represent that far a stretch?





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

The Dee Gordon trade was obviously ridiculous for a number of reasons, mostly because his whole game is built around BABIP and defense, one of which is volatile and the other one involved him learning a new position.

DiPoto’s strategy is probably to take on big contracts in trades rather than sign guys in free agency. You could see them maybe making a play for Wil Myers or someone similar, but what they really need is starting pitching and and a CF and it’s hard to see how they’re going bridge the gap there.

3cardmontyMember since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Agreed that the Gordon trade was craptacular from the go. But the starting pitching – expected to be the weakness of the team prior to the year – was surprisingly decent all year. The real dead weight turned out to be half the lineup slots being constantly occupied by sup-.300 OBP guys like Gordon, Healy, Zunino, and Seager.

PC1970Member since 2024
7 years ago

If I am picking a team to “fall off the cliff” next year, it’s Seattle. A team that was really more like a .500 team than a 90 win team, relied on the area most likely to regress year over year (bullpen) & is aging.

pmacho
7 years ago

No mention of Eric Filia? Really? He is the future at 1B/OF. Wow. I’m honestly shocked

seattlefan68Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  pmacho

Can’t believe he left out a 26 year old who struggled in AA

Goms
7 years ago
Reply to  pmacho

Never would have expected Eric to have a burner

bliss55
7 years ago

The starting pitching was of most concern entering the season but the disappointing Seattle bats doomed the Mariners.

From 2017 to 2018, Kyle Seager’s on-base percentage dropped from .323 to .273, Mike Zunino’s from .331 to .259 and Dee Gordon’s from .341 to .288. Ryon Healy’s on-base percentage has fallen from .337 in 2016 to .302 in 2017 to .277 in 2018.

With the exception of Felix Hernandez, the Seattle starting rotation may have exceeded expectations this season with James Paxton posting 3.8 fWAR in 28 starts, Marco Gonzales 3.6 fWAR in 29 starts, Mike Leake 2.3 fWAR in 31 starts and Wade LeBlanc 1.7 fWAR in 32 appearances, including 27 starts.

Next year a positive regression by the hitters might be offset by negative regression by Gonzalez, the 26-year-old former first-round pick who this year coming off Tommy John surgery ranked among baseball’s top 25 pitchers in fWAR.

dl80Member since 2026
7 years ago

Cano, Felix, and Dee are scheduled to make more than $70 million next year. Maybe it was unreasonable for us to expect them to see Felix’s sudden decline, but everyone knew it was coming with Cano and Dee has always been a BABIP-driven hitter whose defense was mitigated by moving him to the outfield.

Best case, they can probably hope for MAYBE 6-7 wins from those guys combined. That’s just not good enough.

I don’t blame them for Seager, and I think he may bounce back a bit. But how this team has no real prospects still is a mystery to me.

3cardmontyMember since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Cano still hasn’t really started to decline that badly and has miraculously justified that contract already, more or less. Gordon really doesn’t make that much, which is good because he’s a 1-win player. He’s probably about $5 million overpaid, nowhere near Felix.

LHPSU
7 years ago
Reply to  dl80

You saw Cano’s suspension coming?

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

He has always looked like Popeye.

dl80Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

He’s projected for 3 WAR next year and hasn’t had more than 3.2 since 2016. I’m giving him credit for 3 or so next year (4 if we’re being charitable). Do you expect him you suddenly improve at age 36?

bliss55
7 years ago
Reply to  dl80

With his 80-game suspension, Robinson Cano earned only a fraction of his 2018 salary of $24 million but nevertheless posted 2.9 fWAR, valued at $23.6 million, in only 80 games.

Cano has posted 20.7 fWAR, valued at about $163.7 million, five years into his 10-year, $240 million contract (and the suspension reduced the dollar total).

A decline may be coming but the surplus value to date suggests the drop has yet to arrive.

dl80Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  bliss55

My point isn’t about whether he’s been worth the contract so far. I’m willing to concede he has.

But it hamstrings them going forward since it’s a huge part of their budget.

You can’t just double his 2018 WAR and pretend he’s going to refer to his prime at age 36.

Darkstar61
7 years ago

Despite being the lazy scapegoat for their fans desperate to find an excuse; if you look back of Jerry Dipoto’s time with the Angels you quickly realized he made a ton of trades, brought in quite a lot of useful talent, and gave up almost nothing of real value in return. With the exception of the Clevinger trade (which who honestly saw him coming,) none of the moves even seem ill advised.

That is not to say he will create a force for 2019 or anything, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see them out perform our low expectations despite not having much to work with

fjtorres
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkstar61

Clevinger attributes his improvement to Bauer’s influence. Which suggests he might not have taken that step upwards elsewhere.

Darkstar61
7 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

While that is true, that is also merely an additional step on top of one he took almost immediately after joining the Indians.

With the Angels, Clevinger was a 4 year often injured player making it only as high as A+, sporting a GB rate of 44% or higher and poor results overall. In his first full season with Cleveland he threw 160 innings of 3.02 FIP/3.22 FIP ball while carrying just a 35% GB rate and showing great control at the AA level. The following season Clevinger, still with his lower GB% and improved control, was appearing in the World Series

I’m not sure if other organizations saw the potential and change needed that Cleveland did, but clearly he had that easily tapped into potential as the Indians were able to create a dramatically different and more efficient pitcher within a few months of landing him – and well before the subsequent time spent with Bauer where he made further improvements.

Cleveland is seemingly better at this than most other clubs, but the Dipoto/Scioscia Angels do appear to have completely missed the potential in Clevinger and instead had him pitching to a very specific style which was not working for him. He wasn’t the GB pitcher the Angels thought he was, and thought the were trading away

ND12
7 years ago

Anybody else click on Sebastian Ochoa’s profile? Spent his third consecutive season in a rookie league… then jumped to AAA?

Barnard
7 years ago
Reply to  ND12

I think he’s probably just an org guy who they have no problem bouncing around when the need arises

ND12
7 years ago
Reply to  Barnard

I agree, it’s just odd to me because I’d assume that some older MiLB journeyman would fill that role.

If a 20-year-old is playing AAA ball, my first thought is that he must be some hot prospect, but that definitely doesn’t appear to be the case with Ochoa.

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  ND12

I didn’t click, but I did Google. And no, he’s not related to Alex Ochoa.

Kevbot034
7 years ago

Seattle could really crumble hard, given their age and lack of MiLB talent. Plus, as volatile as RP is, who knows what Diaz might even do next year? Look at how Knebel’s season went after he was an elite reliever the year previous.

oozyalbies1
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

Diaz has far more pedigree than Knebel did and doesn’t have the warning signs – namely the BB% and HR/FB.

Kevbot034
7 years ago
Reply to  oozyalbies1

He did have BB issues though. This article even says so. He fixed them this year, but who knows if that lasts

darrenasuMember since 2025
7 years ago

I think there best bet, unfortunately, is to trade Diaz. After this postseason…I’d have to think the Dodgers would be most interested. I think a package centered around Verdugo…maybe him, Gavin Lux and Ross Stripling? As great as Diaz is he’s unlikely to be around or cheap when the next great M’s team rises.

fjtorres
7 years ago
Reply to  darrenasu

Or even useful.
Pitchers get hurt.
Young pitchers get hurt.
Young fireballing pitchers get hurt.

Three reasons to trade him right there.

Stevil
7 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

I’ll add to that….

He’s at peak value.

Goms
7 years ago
Reply to  darrenasu

I’ve said the exact same thing. The Dodgers are a great match and Verdugo is a good piece for the M’s to acquire.

awy
7 years ago

baited by major league team’s overperformance. but at least it was fun while it lasted?

ericdykstra
7 years ago

The most disappointing thing about the Mariners not being able to hold up their playoff pace is the fact that it’s all downhill from here.

It’s very unlikely they’re in a position to compete for the playoffs until 2024 or later, and anything other than a fire sale will delay that even longer. Maybe they can get a decent set of prospects to roll the dice on if they trade Paxton and Diaz, and hope the fruits of that can be the centerpiece of a rebuild effort.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

It’s unlikely they will get value on Dee, and Cano is old and getting slower. SO, I propose they play cano and Gordon at both 2B and DH. Each getting half the games at 2B and nearly half at DH.

Dustin
7 years ago

Whatever one may feel about the Mariners, Dan, or baseball writing in general, this entire piece was worth reading simply for the player cloning bit at the very end.

Goms
7 years ago

I think going into last year the M’s were ready to sell some pieces at the deadline if things didn’t go well. Then they got super lucky in the first half and couldn’t do that. Not signing Cruz to an extension during the year and letting him become a FA is a sign that they’ll do the same thing this offseason. Small move that don’t move the needle much but give them an outside shot if everything goes well. Then when it inevitably doesn’t they’ll start to sell. The extent that they sell is TBD.

Cano should play 1B. Dee should play 2B to rebuild his value and then Dee, Diaz, Segura, Paxton, and any bullpen pieces with value should be dealt at the deadline. Segura could be dealt to fill holes this offseason and then Dee could play SS with Cano at 2B.

Stevil
7 years ago

Personally, I’d like to see the team invest in the international market and bring in players like Kikuchi, Yamada, Tsutsugo, and Senga (assuming they’re all posted). Cano may very well be a solid second baseman next season, but he’s likely going to be rotated between DH, 2B, and 1B before too long, so why not start getting him comfortable at 1B now while the team reloads and awaits help from Bishop, Lewis, and White?

Gordon could go back to CF for all I care as he isn’t likely going to be around in 2021 when the team is potentially better poised for the post-season. He’s obviously a strong trade candidate, though Jerry might prefer to give him a chance to rebound rather than sell low immediately.

What a mess. With Ramirez and Vincent gone they’ve shaved off somewhere around 7 million. But there’s still a lot of committed salary for bad players and not much in way of immediate internal answers outside of the bullpen.