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Second Basemen Go to College, Shortstops Not So Much

Earlier today, I published the third in a three-part series devoted to producing and analyzing objective demographic data regarding those players who’ve become good major leaguers. The thought has been that, at best, the results might have some predictive value regarding future good major leaguers; at worst, that they’d at least document the origins of the league’s best players.

In the third part of the series — an examination of which college conferences had produced the most good players over the last five years — I noticed that the Pac-12 Conference was responsible for an inordinate number of talented second baseman. Jason Kipnis, Dustin Pedroia, and Chase Utley were all drafted and signed out of Pac-12 schools — and Ian Kinsler had been compelled to leave Arizona State for Missouri only because he was displaced at shortstop by Pedroia.

Collectively, those four players have produced 75 wins since 2010, averaging just over 4.0 WAR per every 600 plate appearances. Of the 50 player-seasons of three wins or better* produced by second baseman since 2010, they’re responsible for 16 (i.e. nearly a third) of them. And this is merely accounting for those second baseman who were members of Pac-12 schools. Ben Zobrist, another college product who’s played mostly second base, has recorded another five good seasons. Danny Espinosa, Dan Uggla, and Rickie Weeks have all also recorded multiple good seasons by this measure.

*Or what I’ll also refer to as a “good” season throughout the remainder of this post.

That seemed like a lot of college players developing into good major-league second basemen. On account of I’m paid to do such things, I endeavored to determine if it really was.

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A Year Without Marcus Stroman

This time, at least, it’s a little different. Yu Darvish sustained an injury while pitching. Cliff Lee sustained an injury while pitching. Gavin Floyd, Masahiro Tanaka, Jose Fernandez, Matt Harvey, so many of the others — they sustained their injuries while pitching. Marcus Stroman sustained an injury while fielding. His throwing arm is completely fine. His throwing arm, also, is completely useless to him at the moment, because you can’t pitch through a torn ACL. The freak injury will knock Stroman out for the duration of 2015, and though he should be good to go after that, the calendar says “2015” right now, and we’ll be without something we all thought we’d have. Stroman, like the others, has been taken from his team, and he’s been taken from the game.

There’s also that other twist. Darvish is a devastating loss, but then, the Rangers didn’t seem particularly poised to challenge for the playoffs. Lee would be another devastating loss, but even with him healthy, the Phillies looked like a mess. Floyd was just re-injured, and the Indians could win the AL Central, but the Indians also have a ton of pitching depth, and they knew Floyd was a risk. The Blue Jays had dreams of winning the World Series. Stroman figured to be the No. 1, and the team didn’t look deep with him. This is a massive blow, and it’s a massive blow to a team right on that win-curve position where a massive blow can be the most massive. People are mourning this. It’s not that much of an overreaction.

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Marcus Stroman Tears ACL, Out for Season

What a lousy week for pitchers. Yu Darvish, Cliff Lee, and Gavin Floyd have been felled by their arms, and now Marcus Stroman will join them on the disabled list after tearing the ACL in his left knee during practice today. Surgery to repair a torn ACL will cause him to miss the entire 2015 season.

This is a huge blow to the Blue Jays, as Stroman projected as their #1 starter; our depth charts forecast had him at +3.5 WAR in just under 200 innings. While this will mean a larger opportunity for either Marco Estrada or Daniel Norris, neither one is likely capable of providing what Stroman would have given the Jays, and this was a rotation already lacking in depth. While the Blue Jays don’t need to panic, the reality is that they probably need another starting pitcher now, and preferably a pretty good one.

Given their spot on the win curve — prior to Stroman’s injury, we gave them a 23% chance of winning the division and a 19% chance of winning the wild card — and the fact that they have a good number of core pieces at the tail ends of their careers, the Blue Jays are somewhat committed to trying to win in 2015. You don’t sign Russell Martin to a five year deal if you’re not pushing in on 2015.

The most obvious answer — and one that will likely be suggested immediately — will be a trade for Cole Hamels. He’s the only pitcher on the market who would give the Jays a legitimate replacement for Stroman’s production, and the team now has an incentive to pay more than they were willing to offer previously. That said, if the asking price remains focused on big league ready players, it’s not entirely clear that the Blue Jays actually have the ability to give the Phillies what they want without doing too much harm to their own team in the process; they don’t have the pitching depth to give up a guy like Norris to acquire Hamels, especially without Stroman around.

So, perhaps instead of aiming for the most expensive replacement around, the Jays will look for cheaper upside instead. The Nationals probably don’t want to trade Tanner Roark, but it’d be worth a phone call. Dillon Gee isn’t any good, but if the Mets wanted to move Jon Niese or Bartolo Colon, the Blue Jays should consider it. Or if they just wanted to take on some money without giving up any talent, I’m sure Edwin Jackson could be had with a subsidy.

But no matter what they do, the Blue Jays are going to be worse. This is a big blow. While the Darvish and Lee injuries were bad for the sport because they’re good pitchers, this is the most significant loss a real contender has suffered yet.


How the Reds Can Win the NL Central

The Cincinnati Reds face an uphill battle in 2015. The St. Louis Cardinals are heavy favorites. The Pittsburgh Pirates brought back most of its playoff team and could see improvement with a young roster. The Cubs have made improvements, and even the Brewers bring back many players who put them in first place for most of 2014. The odds of the Reds winning the division are not very good. The FanGraphs Playoff Odds are up, and the Reds have just a 3.0% chance of winning the division. That means out of 10,000 simulations, the Reds won the division around 300 times. Focusing in on the 3% chance side, it is possible to create scenarios where the Reds can win the division.

FanGraphs Playoff Odds are based on ZiPS, Steamer, and the Depth Chart Projections. Those projections are not very kind to the Reds. The projections currently have the Reds at 75 wins, last in the National League Central. For a frame of reference, here are the top five teams per WAR according to those projections.

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Kiley McDaniel Prospects Chat – 3/10/15

12:21
Kiley McDaniel: Just texted an exec “this Olivera thing is getting pretty nutty.” He said “totes.”

12:21
Comment From Stanatee the Manatee
Can you grade Carson’s fielding in this video? https://instagram.com/p/z8p…

12:21
Kiley McDaniel: I was the one hitting grounders to him with one of those really skinny plastic bats, so my bad on the backspin that killed the second one. I believe his skills rate a WTF on the 20-80.

12:22
Comment From Vslyke
Your writeup successfully turned me and several other Braves fans off of Hector Olivera. What do the Braves see in him? He seems like a much better fit for a team that is, you know, trying to win now and not in 2017.

12:24
Kiley McDaniel: Here’s the thing: he’s a good player and he’s big league ready. I was trying to re-set expectations for some obvious reasons because this thing was spinning out of control. I think he’ll be a 50 FV for at least a few years with some positional flexibility and it everything goes perfectly, he could be a 60 FV. That’s worth $10 million per year for a few years and if he was 27 with no injury history and he was playing in games 6 months ago, then it would be more like $15M per for 5-7 years.

I’d encourage you to root for landing him for under $50 million and for something in the $30s. I think he’s a solid gamble for a mid-market at that price.

12:24
Comment From Keith
Any Braves July 2 info? Thanks

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Demography of the Good Player, Part III: College Conferences

What follows represents the third in a three-part series devoted to producing and analyzing objective demographic data regarding those players who’ve become good major leaguers. Last Wednesday, I considered good players by their amateur origins — i.e. whether they were signed to professional contracts out of college, junior college, etc. On Friday, I examined good players by draft round. In this installment, I look at good players by the conferences in which they played as collegiate athletes (which obviously excludes international, prep, and junior-college players).

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The Silver Lining to Yu Darvish’s Injury

Yu Darvish is probably going to require Tommy John surgery. As Jeff noted yesterday, this is a blow to the Rangers already slim playoff odds, and now our projections have them as perhaps the worst team in the American League. After last year’s debacle, the team was hoping for a big bounce back, but that seems particularly unlikely now, and it’s a legitimate question whether this move should cause the front office to start really playing for the future.

So, yeah, this is bad news. The 2015 Rangers just became potentially unwatchable, especially if they perform poorly, eventually trading away Yovani Gallardo and maybe even Derek Holland; the remnants of the rotation would be the worst in baseball. But because of a series of triggers in Darvish’s contract, it’s actually possible to see this as not entirely awful news, with even some long-term upside for the Rangers

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Hisashi Iwakuma and the Other Road to Elite

Hisashi Iwakuma is perhaps the most underrated pitcher in baseball. Since his debut in 2012, he has posted an xFIP of 3.24: good for 12th-best among qualified starters, and bracketed on either side by Max Scherzer and Madison Bumgarner. The former of that duo just signed a well-publicized seven-year, $210 million dollar contract; Iwakuma is on the last year of a three-year deal worth a total of $20 million.

Iwakuma won’t make Scherzer money in free agency next year, mostly due to the fact that he is four years older than the new Nationals right-hander, but it gives us an idea of the company he’s kept for the past three years. Always the groomsman, never the groom, Iwakuma lives with his near elite-level production in the shadow of perennial Cy Young candidate Felix Hernandez: while he finished third in Cy Young voting in 2013, he is usually forgotten when the final lists of best pitchers are made — left instead to plan the year-end parties for the King.

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A Quick Attempted Measure of Team Depth, Again

The best thing about having ZiPS on the site is having ZiPS on the site. The second-best thing about having ZiPS on the site is it gives people like me an opportunity to recycle blog posts like this. Already, I repeated a polling project, asking you guys how you feel about the various team projections. Now I’m repeating a post from January, where I examined team depth based just on Steamer projections. Now we’ve got the full blended Steamer and ZiPS projections, and we have the newest depth charts possible, so it only makes sense to do this again. I can’t afford to not do this again.

Do I need to explain to you the importance of depth? Probably not, and probably especially not since I’ve already written this. But, I mean, you have your starters, and then you have your other guys. Ideally, the starters all work out, and nothing goes wrong. Ideally, it’s nothing but eight or nine position players and one five-man rotation, and you sweep your way to the World Series. But the thing that usually happens is misfortune. It happens in different amounts to different organizations, but you can expect every team to need reinforcements. Right now, it might not be clear what will go wrong, but something or some things will go wrong, and the strong teams are prepared for adversity.

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Why Austin Jackson Should Be Just Fine

Among the many significant trades that went down at last July’s trading deadline, the three-way deal among the Tigers, Rays and Mariners that centered around David Price was particularly unique. The Tigers and Rays’ respective goals were pretty clear; the Tigers wanted Price to bolster their rotation for what they hoped would be a World Series run, and the Rays were bailing on the race and restocking for the future with the acquisition of Drew Smyly, Nick Franklin and minor leaguer Willy Adames. The Mariners’ role in the deal was a little more understated but just as intriguing. In exchange for Franklin, they acquired center fielder Austin Jackson, filling an organizational void in the hopes of making a playoff charge of their own. They fell a game short of a wild card berth, and Jackson’s ineffectiveness played a role. Still, some interesting batted-ball data suggests that the M’s may get their money’s worth in 2015, if some targeted adjustments are made. Read the rest of this entry »