2025 Trade Value: Nos. 41-50

As is tradition at FanGraphs, we’re using the lead-up to the trade deadline to take stock of the top 50 players in baseball by trade value. For a more detailed introduction to this year’s exercise, as well as a look at the players who fell just short of the top 50, be sure to read the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, which can be found in the widget above.
For those of you who have been reading the Trade Value Series the last few seasons, the format should look familiar. For every player, you’ll see a table with the player’s projected five-year WAR from 2026-2030, courtesy of Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections. The table will also include the player’s guaranteed money, if any, the year through which their team has contractual control of them, last year’s rank (if applicable), and then projections, contract status, and age for each individual season through 2030 (assuming the player is under contract or team control for those seasons). Last year’s rank includes a link to the relevant 2024 post. Thanks are due to Sean Dolinar for his technical wizardry. At the bottom of the page, there is a grid showing all of the players who have been ranked up to this point.
One note on the rankings: Particularly at the bottom of the list, there isn’t a lot of room between the players. The ordinal rankings clearly matter, and we put them there for a reason, but there isn’t much of a gap between, say, the 38th-ranked player and the guy who would have been 58th if the list went that deep. The magnitude of the differences in this part of the list is quite small. Several of the folks I talked to might prefer a player in the Honorable Mentions section to one on the back end of the list, or vice versa. I think the broad strokes are correct, and this is my opinion of the best order, but with so many players carrying roughly equivalent value, disagreements abounded. I’ll note places where I disagreed meaningfully with the people I spoke with in calibrating this list, and I’ll also note players whose value was the subject of disagreement among my contacts. As I mentioned in the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, I’ll also indicate tier breaks between players where appropriate, both in their capsules and in the table at the end of the piece.
With that out of the way, let’s get to the first batch of players.
| Five-Year WAR | 17.0 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | $43.5M |
| Team Control Through | 2032 |
| Previous Rank | HM |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 25 | 3.3 | $2.3M |
| 2027 | 26 | 3.3 | $3.8M |
| 2028 | 27 | 3.7 | $5.8M |
| 2029 | 28 | 3.4 | $7.8M |
| 2030 | 29 | 3.4 | $10.8M |
Let’s start on a good note with one of the hardest players to place on the entire list. Rafaela is the poster boy for Tier 16: High Volatility. (Yes, there are 16 tiers. I’m a maximalist.) He’s one of the few players with a credible claim on the title of best defensive player in the majors. He’s blazing fast and gets great jumps, which lets him make spectacular plays that most outfielders wouldn’t even attempt. Now that he’s been freed from playing shortstop (please don’t play him at second base too much, Red Sox), where he was below average, Rafaela would be an acceptable starter even if he hit like he did in 2024, when he posted an 80 wRC+.
This year, something has clicked offensively. His bat speed, barrel rate, hard-hit rate, squared-up rate, contact rate, and every outcome stat you can imagine have all ticked up together. Since the start of June, he’s been one of the best hitters in baseball, with a slugging percentage in the 600s. Even if you think it’s just a hot streak, it’s clear that he has the tools to be an above-average hitter. It’s basically pull-only power, but that’s just fine with me, even if you have to take him out of the context of Fenway Park for the purposes of this evaluation.
The risk? He’s a chaser. Rafaela’s chase rate is the fourth highest in the majors, and even that is a big improvement over last year’s mark. Rafaela posts poor swinging strike rates despite reasonable bat-to-ball skills, because he swings at a ton of junk. This is one of my least favorite qualities in a hitter. It puts a ton of pressure on every other offensive tool; the worse the pitches you swing at, the harder it is to do damage. Even during his recent run, he’s chasing at a 40% clip. No one in recent memory has chased that often and sustained good offensive performance. If you’re betting on Rafaela turning into a long-term offensive threat, you’re betting on him changing his approach.
I don’t hate that bet. Rafaela is great at a ton of things, and players like that often figure out even more skills as they age. Overall, though, I’m lower on the chase-happy members of this list than most of the people I talked to. I think the consensus would have Rafaela around 10 spots higher, but I need to see a little more before I’m convinced. If he replicates this level of offensive output over the next year, he’ll place meaningfully higher in the next iteration of this exercise.
| Five-Year WAR | 11.1 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2030 |
| Previous Rank | – |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 25 | 2.1 | Pre-Arb |
| 2027 | 26 | 2.2 | Pre-Arb |
| 2028 | 27 | 2.3 | Arb 1 |
| 2029 | 28 | 2.4 | Arb 2 |
| 2030 | 29 | 2.0 | Arb 3 |
I mentioned how much trouble I had with catchers in the introduction to this series. Even tougher: rookie catchers. Baldwin was unexpectedly pressed into service when Sean Murphy started the season on the IL, and he’s done nothing but hit ever since. He doesn’t chase too much, he makes good contact when he does swing, and he has top-shelf bat speed. He hits too many grounders, but the overall package works because he hits the ball with a ton of authority; he’s running gaudy HR/FB numbers and probably always will.
I’m not sure whether his defense will hold up. He’s acceptable out there at the moment, but that was a weakness of his profile as a prospect, and he’ll get more DH reps as the year wears on now that Murphy is back and raking. If you’re trading for Baldwin, you have to bake some positional risk into your evaluation; it’s not the median case, but I could see him ending up at first base or in the corner outfield. That would put a ton more pressure on his bat, which is why I think the evaluation here is volatile.
That said, he’s going to be around for a long time, he doesn’t cost that much, and there’s at least a chance that he continues to improve offensively from a baseline that’s already high. I’d take an average-fielding catcher with Baldwin’s bat, and I’m not alone in that view. If you believe his recent defensive improvements – he’s gotten a lot smoother since being drafted – you can even round up a little bit there. But between the fact that his offensive track record is short and the risk around his long-term defensive value, I’m leaving him in the group of players with wide error bars and calling it a day. Still, it wouldn’t shock me if he were much higher on this list next year.
| Five-Year WAR | 15.6 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2030 |
| Previous Rank | – |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 24 | 3.0 | Pre-Arb |
| 2027 | 25 | 3.2 | Pre-Arb |
| 2028 | 26 | 3.2 | Arb 1 |
| 2029 | 27 | 3.2 | Arb 2 |
| 2030 | 28 | 3.0 | Arb 3 |
Wilson feels like a poor fit for the high volatility grouping. He’s a singles hitter. He plays acceptable defense. As a shortstop who doesn’t strike out much, his floor is high. But I have him in this group because I can’t shake concerns that his hit tool just isn’t enough to make up for his complete lack of power in the long run.
That’s basically the whole evaluation here. If Wilson is 30% above average offensively, he’s one of the most valuable players in the game as a cost-controlled middle infielder who would fit in every batting order. If he’s David Fletcher plus, he’s just a nice starter who doesn’t belong on this list.
If Wilson were ripping line drives to every part of the field, I’d have an easier time placing him. But he’s not exactly Luis Arraez; he also makes a ton of contact with a slow swing, but far more of his contact is smacked into the ground. The Arraez comp is an easy one, and it’s also instructive: When Arraez was at his offensive peak, he hit the ball a lot harder than Wilson’s 2025 body of work and banked line drive doubles as a result. I’m willing to believe that this style of hitting can pay off, but I’m not willing to believe that it can pay off for Wilson, in the long-term, without changes.
That said, there’s silver lining aplenty here. I think Wilson is a good enough defender to stick at shortstop if necessary, and he’d be good at second or third as well. Even if he’s just a league average hitter, he’ll contribute to your team for years to come, and he’ll do so for a reasonable salary. The volatility here isn’t about whether Wilson is a solid major leaguer; it’s about whether his offensive game is sustainable at this level. For what it’s worth, I got a mixture of views from team evaluators here, but most everyone agreed that he’s an intriguing profile who belonged either somewhere in the bottom third of the list or just off of it.
| Five-Year WAR | 17.3 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2028 |
| Previous Rank | #32 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 25 | 3.3 | Arb 1 |
| 2027 | 26 | 3.5 | Arb 2 |
| 2028 | 27 | 3.5 | Arb 3 |
The first tier was a bunch of players who I have a tough time evaluating. This next group? Not so much. It’s Tier 15: Solid Infielders. They get to it different ways, but everyone in this group looks like a plus contributor, and none of them are hitting free agency particularly soon. The next MVP? Probably not. An All-Star with a salary in the low millions? That’s in range for everyone here.
Abrams is putting together the offensive skills he’s intermittently demonstrated throughout his professional career. He has great bat-to-ball skills and sneaky power; I can see 25-homer seasons with solid OBPs in his future. He’s swing-happy, but not in a disqualifying way, and he’s lowered his chase rate every year in the majors. His current 132 wRC+ looks overly flattering to me, but 15-20% better than average feels like a reasonable expectation for Abrams’ future, and he’s a spectacular baserunner, too.
The biggest question with Abrams is what position he should play. He’s below average at shortstop, and below average by enough that I think he’d move off the position if he weren’t on a team with no competition to speak of at the position. Center seems like an obvious alternative; he has the foot speed for it, at the very least. Second makes sense as well. He hasn’t played either position since 2022, but hopefully it wouldn’t take too long to get him up to speed. That risk bumps him to the bottom of this group, but even if you don’t know exactly where to play Abrams, he’s clearly a useful contributor.
| Five-Year WAR | 13.8 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2029 |
| Previous Rank | #29 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 27 | 3.1 | Pre-Arb |
| 2027 | 28 | 3.0 | Arb 1 |
| 2028 | 29 | 2.8 | Arb 2 |
| 2029 | 30 | 2.6 | Arb 3 |
Westburg would be a valuable cog on any team. Here’s what I wrote about him in this exercise last year: “He can play a few spots defensively, he’s a reasonable bat up and down the lineup, he runs the bases well — every team could use more Westburgs. He’s 25, he won’t be a free agent until after the 2029 season, he’s mashing in the majors right now, and he’s projected to keep doing so. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.”
That does sound like a pretty good deal to me! What dropped Westburg from 29 to 46? First, as I’ll be discussing throughout the week, it’s a more competitive top 50 this year than the last few iterations. Second, Westburg has been injured: Dating back to last year’s All-Star break, he has only 269 plate appearances. That encompasses two separate injuries, a fractured hand and a strained hamstring. Neither suggests any particular long-term risk, but for players like Westburg, whose value proposition is more about being consistently good than being one of the elite few players in the league, availability matters a lot.
If you’re ripping off 6- and 7-WAR seasons, 150 plate appearances here or there is an acceptable cost to pay. But if you’re in the Westburg mold, a 3-4 WAR kind of guy, lopping off playing time starts to sting. If he’s going to play 500 PAs a year instead of 650, the whole package looks a lot less attractive. It’s obviously more complicated than that, but one simple way of looking at it is to compare his ZiPS numbers from last year to now: He’s a win lower across the board, and it’s largely about playing time.
| Five-Year WAR | 17.1 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2029 |
| Previous Rank | #31 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 24 | 3.1 | Pre-Arb |
| 2027 | 25 | 3.4 | Arb 1 |
| 2028 | 26 | 3.5 | Arb 2 |
| 2029 | 27 | 3.5 | Arb 3 |
This one was tough for me. Winn’s carrying tool is a ludicrous, 80-grade throwing arm, but that sells the rest of his defensive game short. Fast hands, quick feet, good range; he’s gotten much better at moving to his right, and now looks like an annual threat to win defensive hardware. Indeed, he won the Fielding Bible award in 2024 and looks like he’ll be right in that range again in 2025. We’re talking premium, All-Star-despite-a-bad-batting-line level defense.
Offensively, I can’t see Winn being much better than an average hitter, and projection systems agree. The thing is, an average-hit shortstop with Winn’s glove is a 4-WAR player. He’s on pace for that range this year despite an early-season IL stint, and he checked in at 3.6 WAR in 2024. I don’t think this is a case where a positional adjustment overstates shortstop value. Maybe not every guy who can stand between second and third is a defensive asset, but Winn is a lot better than the field at a tough and important defensive spot; that’s undeniably useful.
Can Winn keep up this level of offense? Probably. He’ll never be a power hitter, but his good sense of the zone and good bat-to-ball skills mean his floor is quite high. I’d be happy with that if I had Winn on my team; he’s so good defensively that the big risk to his profile is that his offense collapses, and his approach minimizes that risk in my opinion. But of course, the standard caveat about everyone in this tier applies: the likely ceiling is not tremendously high. I think Winn is more likely to break out than the two guys immediately behind him on this list, because he doesn’t need to hit all that well to do it; if he started hitting like Westburg or Abrams, he’d get down-ballot MVP votes. But without any real likelihood of an offensive explosion, I can’t in good conscience put Winn ahead of the tier ahead of him – and I even ended up moving him behind the next guy on the list at the very end of my revisions.
| Five-Year WAR | 19.1 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2029 |
| Previous Rank | #36 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 24 | 3.4 | Pre-Arb |
| 2027 | 25 | 3.8 | Arb 1 |
| 2028 | 26 | 3.9 | Arb 2 |
| 2029 | 27 | 4.0 | Arb 3 |
This year’s list is stacked. I can’t believe I have Langford this low. I even had him off the list a few times, though my cross-checkers consistently told me I was too low on him when I did so. Langford starts a three-player group, Tier 14: Industry Darlings. Langford has been a worse hitter but better fielder than expected. In his second year in the majors, he’s just above average offensively, in line with his rookie season. That feels light given his spectacular amateur and minor league performance, particularly when you take his titanic batted ball quality into account. But when will that translate into juicy big league numbers? The waiting game continues.
Batters take a while to hit their stride all the time, and the process here looks good to me. Langford has a solid sense of the zone and doesn’t struggle with any particular pitch type. He runs low swinging strike rates for someone with his power. It just hasn’t all clicked yet. I think it will. Guys with this combination of skills tend to work out. The super high-end outcomes probably aren’t there anymore – he didn’t come out and light the league on fire in his first 900 plate appearances, so he’s probably not one of the best hitters of all time, and he’s up to three big league IL stints already – but if you don’t think Langford is going to be a good major league hitter, you should probably not be in the business of evaluating major league hitters.
The only question is what you’d give up for Langford, and I’m shading low on young players who have shown a little but not a lot yet. I’ll get into this discussion more in the next blurb, but if I were making decisions for a big league team, I would be trying to get guys like Langford at a discount rather than backing up the truck for them. That’s true of pretty much everyone on today’s list, in fact, which is why it’s the bottom 10 names of the top 50. I don’t doubt that Langford will end up as a good middle-of-the-order bat in the next few years, and I’m absolutely not confident that 44 is the perfect spot for him, but that’s how I’m squaring the excellent pedigree and not-yet-overwhelming production: by splitting the difference.
| Five-Year WAR | 18.1 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2029 |
| Previous Rank | #40 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 25 | 3.2 | Arb 1 |
| 2027 | 26 | 3.7 | Arb 2 |
| 2028 | 27 | 3.8 | Arb 3 |
| 2029 | 28 | 3.8 | Arb 4 |
For the third year in a row, Neto was more popular with the team personnel I talked to than I expected. I like him plenty, but I differed in two places. First, I have his defense as average at shortstop, and several people I talked to think he’s better than that. Second, everyone likes him more at the plate than I do. I don’t think it’s one skill in particular that I’m low on, but at least a few of my sources think of him as a top-level, difference-making bat at shortstop, whereas I think it’s more like 5-10% better than average.
If they’re closer to the mark than I am, this ranking is too low. There’s a big gap between “average shortstop defender with a solid bat” and “slugger who can play short,” and the latter group is the most coveted set of players in baseball these days. Neto is on track for 25 homers, and his batted ball quality implies that there’s even more in the tank. He might strike out a lot, and he might not walk much, but his approach is designed to catch the ball out in front and drive it to the pull side, kind of a store brand Justin Turner approach. I keep thinking that pitchers will figure Neto out, but I keep being wrong about that. He might just be good enough to keep doing that while building on his strikeout and walk numbers; he’s improved every year of his major league career.
I started Neto higher in my rankings, and I don’t feel great about having him this far down. Every evaluator I talked to had Neto higher than I do. But I asked one of them whether a hypothetical team they ran would try to trade for him at “full price,” and they equivocated before saying probably not. That’s basically it for me – a nice player, but one I’d prefer to try to develop on my own rather than trade for. Maybe that’s wrong, but that holds Neto and the rest of the players in his tier back in my rankings.
| Five-Year WAR | 20.0 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2031 |
| Previous Rank | HM |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 22 | 3.4 | Pre-Arb |
| 2027 | 23 | 3.9 | Pre-Arb |
| 2028 | 24 | 4.2 | Pre-Arb |
| 2029 | 25 | 4.2 | Arb 1 |
| 2030 | 26 | 4.3 | Arb 2 |
Anthony is probably going to be a star. He’s 21 and has vaporized minor league competition at every stop, and the early returns on his major league career have been solid. If he had 300 PA of major league experience instead of 137 and was hitting at least this well, he’d be higher up the list. But that’s not where things are, and so it’s time for another discussion of trade value.
Anthony’s value is heavily predicated on the fact that he’s going to be around for a very long time at a very cheap rate; it’s less about what he’s doing at this exact moment than almost anyone else on this list. That’s fine! Cheap young outfielders who will probably turn into All-Stars are awesome. But if I were going to trade for one, it’d be a surplus value game. Count up the expected contributions, count up the expected costs, compare the two, and then weigh what you’d have to give up to acquire him. And if you’re doing that kind of thinking, why would you acquire Anthony at cost? You’d try to get him at a discount. After all, you’re in the business of counting up costs and benefits and comparing the two; presumably your mind doesn’t like the idea of spending $100 for a $100 value.
There are two reasons to make a trade: to get better right now, or to get better down the road. Anthony fits better into the second bucket than the first. I don’t think a team trying to make a playoff push right now would trade for Anthony. It would be a very inefficient way of adding to your current squad; most of his value is tied up in the future, certainly more than for anyone else in this similar stratosphere of trade value. That means his suitors are mostly the kinds of teams that would try to “win the trade” while acquiring him, and his value has to take that into account.
Plenty of team personnel said I had Anthony too low. The projections are good. The cost is right. I just think he’s more valuable when he’s already on your team than as someone you’d trade for. If you disagree with the conceit that the composition of the trade market for young players naturally suppresses their value in trade, you could slide these three up a few tiers, perhaps to the mid-30s. I just don’t think it would fit with the way trades work in practice.
| Five-Year WAR | 10.2 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | $45.4M |
| Team Control Through | 2028 |
| Previous Rank | HM |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | 32 | 3.2 | $15.1M |
| 2027 | 33 | 2.7 | $15.1M |
| 2028 | 34 | 2.1 | $15.1M |
Welcome to Tier 13: Superstars on Fair Deals. This group will continue into tomorrow, but I think Buxton is a great introduction to the group. He has a more favorable contract than the rest of his tier-mates, but a murkier playing time projection. Buxton has been elite when healthy, and he’s on course for one of his most available seasons yet – his career high in plate appearances is 511, and we have him projected for 555 this year.
That’s the downside with Buxton: He’s one of the best in the game when he plays, but he doesn’t play much. Coming into this year, he’d averaged less than 300 PA per season over a 10-year career. He went from elite center fielder to DH-only in 2023 before returning to the field with no ill effects in 2024. Since the start of 2020, he has a 136 wRC+ and is a good defender at a premium position – and he’s 39th in WAR because he just hasn’t played enough.
If you trade for Buxton, you’re betting on his health continuing, but you’re getting good odds for doing so. His deal has a shockingly low base salary for someone with his rate statistics: only $15 million a year, and there are three years left after 2025, a sweet spot for a 31-year-old veteran. It carries incentives of up to $10.5 million for winning MVP while playing a full season, but who cares? If Byron Buxton wins MVP and plays a full season, you’re getting far more than your money’s worth. If Buxton had a less checkered injury history, his talent plus this contract would put him much higher on the list.
It’s a fear/greed tradeoff, in other words. Buxton could be one of the best bargains in baseball, a 31-year-old MVP candidate who you can have for the immediate future with no ugly years at the end of his contract. That’s drool-worthy. He could also put up 600 plate appearances in the next three years. The Twins have consistently built their roster around spare center fielders to accommodate Buxton; a team trading for him would have to do that too. That’s the fear side of the equation. I’m a greedy guy, so I’d take the risk – but I wouldn’t fault anyone who looks at the same equation and sees a different answer.
| Rank | Prev | Name | Team | Pos | 2026 | 2027 | 2028 | 2029 | 2030 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Superstars on Fair Deals | |||||||||
| 41 | HM | Byron Buxton | MIN | CF | 3.2 $15.1M |
2.7 $15.1M |
2.1 $15.1M |
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| Industry Darlings | |||||||||
| 42 | HM | Roman Anthony | BOS | OF | 3.4 Pre-Arb |
3.9 Pre-Arb |
4.2 Pre-Arb |
4.2 Arb 1 |
4.3 Arb 2 |
| 43 | 40 | Zach Neto | LAA | SS | 3.2 Arb 1 |
3.7 Arb 2 |
3.8 Arb 3 |
3.8 Arb 4 |
|
| 44 | 36 | Wyatt Langford | TEX | OF | 3.4 Pre-Arb |
3.8 Arb 1 |
3.9 Arb 2 |
4.0 Arb 3 |
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| Solid Infielders | |||||||||
| 45 | 31 | Masyn Winn | STL | SS | 3.1 Pre-Arb |
3.4 Arb 1 |
3.5 Arb 2 |
3.5 Arb 3 |
|
| 46 | 29 | Jordan Westburg | BAL | 2B/3B | 3.1 Pre-Arb |
3.0 Arb 1 |
2.8 Arb 2 |
2.6 Arb 3 |
|
| 47 | 32 | CJ Abrams | WSN | SS | 3.3 Arb 1 |
3.5 Arb 2 |
3.5 Arb 3 |
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| High Volatility | |||||||||
| 48 | – | Jacob Wilson | ATH | SS | 3.0 Pre-Arb |
3.2 Pre-Arb |
3.2 Arb 1 |
3.2 Arb 2 |
3.0 Arb 3 |
| 49 | – | Drake Baldwin | ATL | C | 2.1 Pre-Arb |
2.2 Pre-Arb |
2.3 Arb 1 |
2.4 Arb 2 |
2.0 Arb 3 |
| 50 | HM | Ceddanne Rafaela | BOS | CF | 3.3 $2.3M |
3.3 $3.8M |
3.7 $5.8M |
3.4 $7.8M |
3.4 $10.8M |
Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
It’s here! Thought Neto would be higher than this, surprised he dropped 3 spots after crushing the ball this season compared to last. Still has 4.5 years of TC.
Prior to this year he had a massive platoon split. Oddly he’s running a significant reverse platoon split this year, but it’s not clear that there is a change in skills or approach. A few more barrels leading to an improved HR/FB% is all you can hang your hat on. Still a good player but just about every team with a player ranked below him would hang up the phone if the Angels offered Neto 1 for 1.
I’m an O’s fan. I love Jordan Westburg. Literally my favorite player on the team. Think he’s pretty underrated. Cannot believe he’s here over a half dozen of the honorable mentions.
Agreed. Ben’s comment re:Neto “a nice player, but one I’d prefer to try to develop on my own rather than trade for” describes Westburg far better.
Like there’s no chance the O’s could get Mackenzie Gore for Jordan Westburg. None.
Or Nick Kurtz.
I think someone doesn’t understand how much you have to hit to be a 1b with a lot of trade value.
No doubt but he had a 65 wRC+ after his first 89 PA. In the 2 months and 167 PA since, a 218 wRC+, best in baseball followed by Acuna at 194 and Judge at 190. He’s been scorching the ball, his power isn’t in question, so he’s basically a 22 year old Matt Olson or Ryan Howard right now. Any regression, at worst, he falls off a relative cliff, his cliff. He’d be considered a big disappointment if it ends up he can’t hit LHP, the K’s stay, the streaky bat stays, the walks don’t improve at all, and he’s still a 22 Russell Branyan with 5 cheap years..
With a dimes chance he’s Carlos Delgado. A few pennies to nickels chance he’s Harper.
I think he’s the exception teams make there. Imagine Jonah Hill saying “Pena is an all star. If you trade him, and if Hatte doesn’t work out, you know, this is the kind of decision that gets you fired”, and Brad Pitt turning it into a soda vending machine.
I’m an O’s fan too. Westburg is mediocre defensively and doesn’t take walks. He’s the kind of guy you want to fill out your roster, but no one would trade much to get him.
I’m not sure if seeing the gray in Buxton’s beard makes me feel better or worse.
I would have left Buxton off the list. I would love to believe he’s figured out how to stay healthy, but I just can’t.
I think the case Ben’s making is that he has huge upside for the price point. Sure, if he misses 100 games, you lose out. But if he misses 40, he’s a 2.5 or 3 WAR player and hopefully you have him for the playoffs. If I’m running my favorite team, the Mets, I make a very rich offer for him.
If he misses 40 games or fewer, it’ll be the first time that’s happened since 2017, so I would bet against it.
Honestly if he misses 40 games he is probably better than 3 war. For his career he’s like 4.6 over 162 games iirc
Buxton makes an insane amount of sense to the Mets but I haven’t gotten the sense from anywhere that he’s available.
But you gotta figure a Tong/Mclean + Jett/Benge has the Twins considering, right?
Fangraphs has Abrams defense much closer to “almost average” this year. If you choose to believe that rather than OAA (egad!), you can talk yourself into him being way too low here. Now the eye test… yeah, the Nats should probably try him out in center.
I think maybe you don’t realize that the positional adjustment is baked into the “def” column and is just based on Statcast’s FRV. While Abrams currently rates out better than last year defensively, he’s still at -5 runs on the year, which is tied for the worst among shortstops this season.
His defense at shortstop bad. Maybe he’s a third baseman, or a second baseman, or an outfielder…but I think we have enough information to know that he shouldn’t be playing shortstop.
I just looked up the SS OAA leaderboard, and man has this year been weird. Betts is positive and above Elly, Volpe, and Gunnar? Bogaerts and Turner are top 5? This is really messing with my perception of reality.
Bogaerts has improved a bit and Gunnar and Elly have always been fringy (although for different reasons). The rest I don’t think will hold up longer term, especially Volpe.
Volpe’s been *rough* defensively this year – lots of concentration stuff.
Bogaerts is going on four years in a row of being an above average middle infielder according to OAA/FRV. I think at this point it is safe to say that he is a decent fielder after being not very good early on in his career.
I definitely prefer a bunch of the guys on the HMs to guys like Neto and Westburg.
But I am also surprised at how low Rafaela, Langford, Baldwin, and Wilson are. I would have put them in the 30s, I think.
So one of two things is true, and potentially both:
1) There are way, way more valuable players in MLB than there have been in past iterations of this list.
2) We are all going to repeatedly lose our minds, repeatedly posting “I can’t believe Player X is 15 spots ahead of Jacob Wilson” for everyone in tomorrow’s list.
I particularly look at Neto being ranked ahead of Langford. Just about the only measurable difference that favors Neto is current year batting, and that rides on a .350 BABIP.
I can only assume the industry opinion is significantly higher, and that’s always going to be a black box for a list like this.
Neto seems to have a lot of nagging injuries and is probably going to have to move to 2B. I think he’s an honorable mention for me. He’s good, his walks and strikeouts mean the bottom can fall out real fast.
Langford seems really low considering floor and upside. Would the Rangers really trade Langford for Neto–that sounds crazy to me.
I keep going back and forth on Langford. Sometimes I think he belongs in the 30s, and sometimes a little lower than where is currently. The upside is so huge, and it’s not like he’s bad.
He’s definitely higher than Neto for me, though.
It’s 1 spot, in the same tier, in a 50 player ranking. They are essentially being looked at as equals here but Neto plays the more difficult position and has been a better hitter so far, even if the shape of production is scarier.
I’m more interested in seeing how many people in the next 40 Roman Anthony could be traded straight up for. I didn’t love Ben’s logic about trading specifically “for” Anthony when this is a trade value series and it’s likely Anthony alone could net a lot of the players we’re going to see further up this list, especially if those players aren’t on contending teams.
Outside of Westburg and Buxton (who I think is almost perfectly placed – he’s a $30M player if he’s healthy but he’s only healthy half the time) most of these players are guys who we’re going to look back on in a year and say their ranking was either way too high or way too low.
Rafaela as the first guy on the list is the absolute personification of that. He could be current Michael Harris on a hot streak, in which case he shouldnt even be discussed, but if he’s at all capable of keeping this up (much less improving as a hitter) he should be in the top 20. Given that he’s a CF (which I think is trending is a Catcher-esque direction), I’d lean more against the optimistic outcomes but even with that considered, I’d say most of these players’ current placement is probably accurate
Now are there a few HM guys I would rather have than Zach Neto? Sure, but it’s close enough to put down to personal preference.
If Rafaela keeps this up he’s a contender for #1.
Rafaela and Wilyer is the greatest OF duo in Red Sox history.
Best Red Sox outfield duo ever is (1) Ted Williams and (2) literally anyone who played with him
Dom DiMaggio is probably #2 here, he was a good player in his own right. But you’re right, it frankly doesn’t matter who else you’d put with him.
Yaz and Reggie Smith?
Far from it brother. I don’t even agree with Ted Williams assessment from Trombone. I got roasted in the comments for saying I thought Yaz would be a platoon player if he came up today, when THT was still a thing, but after it was under FG, so it was really FG readers.
Yastremiski and Reggie Smith were monsters together for a few years, that’s tough to beat bc peak Yaz wasn’t too far off Teddy.
In 1967 they were worth 14 wins. 1968 13.5 wins. 1969 only 10.8, but in 1970 they were worth 15.2 wins. 1973 was the last time Smith and Yaz were worth 10+, but by 75, Freddie Lynn and Dwight Evans were put up 11.5 wins, AND Jim Rice, Yaz, and Bernie Carbo were all worth 2.9 wins the same year.
Then Rice blew up. I know, Rice, HOF travesty, but in 77′ he and Yaz both had 5.0, but Rice a smidge higher. In 78′, he was worth 7.7 WAR. In 79′, Lynn was worth 8.6 and Rice was at 5.9, so Rice was a legit superstar and the Sox were stacked in the OF in the late 70s, with those three, and Yaz was still churning out 2 wins into his 40s. Evans and Rice held it down until Greenwell and Burkes came along and were great in the late 80’s. It wasn’t until the 90s when the Sox had crap OFs, but that’s partially bc their formerly good OFs – Greenwell and Ellis Burkes – stopped being good.
But then along came Manny, and it seemed like every year some OF would step up… Damon or Carl Everett and Trot Nixon would have a big year, and JD Drew floated them to the Jacoby Ellsbury years, with a big year from Jason Bay thrown in. And Jacoby floated them to the Mookie years, and though the Sox moved JD Martinez to DH, they still let him start 60 games in the OF and he Mookie were worth over 16 wins in 2018. Despite JBJ and Carl Crawford not working out, OF has traditionally been the strength of the Red Sox. Far too many stellar duos to proclaim two guys worth 5.2 wins in late July as their best duo ever.
Or even really close to it. When it comes to OF the last 8 decades, the Sox are probably one of the best teams out there, off the top my head, #2, after the Yankees.. And for sure I only remember them being bad in the 90s, but even then they had guys that were supposed to be good.
What if indeed there way “way way more”? Can that be attributable to annual ebbs and flows, or is there something more interesting going on? I’m not even sure what that would be – something about players emerging young, or trends in long term lockup contracts or .. . . .?
I get it for Rafaela, he’s been great lately but doesn’t have a long track record of actually hitting and has an approach that could really crater.
This is obviously the great question but it is the path he has been on since the season began that sticks out. It is the far fewer strikeouts and more walks, last year it was a 10/1 ratio, this year 4/1, that just jumps out, but so does his hard hit % and his average is up considerably even though his BABIP is down. There is a real possibility the track record is ancient history and if it is the sky’s the limit.
Strong 41-50. Guys I’d remove:
*Buxton – It’s so rare for him to be both healthy and performing. I wouldn’t bet on it. And he’s not especially cheap or controlled for long.
*Langford – yeah he’s still young but we’re now 900 PA’s into him looking just good not great. I’d prefer one of the many other young cheap guys who hits better than a 108 wRC+
*Westburg – another good not great guy, but I have even less faith in him finding another gear than Langford. Plenty of others I’d prefer.
*Abrams – horrible defense. Walk and barrel rates are below average. Only 3 years left till FA. Pass.
I’d prefer Joe Ryan, Kurtz, Busch, O Cruz, Aranda, W Abreu, Barger, and Perdomo over these 4.
Does this mean Keller, Contreras, Frelick, Eury, and L. Castillo are ranked even higher or not even HM? Would not be a fan of them ranked even higher but seems they would merit HM status.
I personally think Eury Perez is firmly in the top 40. He’s always struck out a ton of guys and has never had command issues. Yeah there’s injury risk, but he’s got 4 more years of control after this. If I were a GM, I’d give up a ton to get him.
Keller and Castillo? Are we thinking of the same guys? Sure they are major league players, and not necessarily bad ones, but Castillo’s stuff for example is way down, strike outs are way down, FIP is way up, velo is way down, etc.
Castillo seems to bet a big home field boost as well, so I think trading partners would be very wary. Unless something changes, I think he’s a #4/5 in a couple of years.
Yes, almost every Mariners pitcher is overrated because of the park (and every Mariners hitter, excepting current Cal Raleigh – with the caveat that past Cal Raleigh was a great example – is underrated)
Keller is a weird case. As a homerish Pirates fan, it seems like there’s absolutely no way he can be top 40. But he’s having a very good season (masked partly by the Pirates’ offensive catastrophe), has been reliable for a while, and has three and a half years of control left. But the control isn’t that cheap, around $55 million for the last three years. Seems like he would’ve merited an honorable mention in the controlled pitching tier, but I guess I can think of reasons to have those guys over him; worse contract situation than Bibee/Ryan/Soriano/Abbott, lacks the upside of Alcantara, xERA worse than his other metrics; though I still think he’s probably in a similar tier to those guys.
I agree with you on Abrams. I don’t think he’d be playing SS for any other team. I expect his affinity for all-night casino binges would drive down his trade value as well.
Surprised to see Anthony on here, would’ve thought he’s higher.
#1 prospect, 21 years old, 120 wRC+ with great defense in his first month. If the Red Sox offered him for the guys in the 25-40 range I think most teams would jump on it, especially for some of those big contracts (Seager, Yordan)
Agreed. Someone who’s projected to for 3.4 WAR next year seems like a win now (or at least win soon) player. Just because he’s so valuable to a team that they won’t trade him doesn’t mean he has less trade value.
Came here to echo exactly what you said.
This is an interesting point, but in my opinion, this series isn’t about ‘which player could I acquire for a price that I consider a discount?’ It does not matter to me that a team would have to pay 100% of the expected acquisition cost to trade for Anthony, I’m curious what that 100% cost is and how it relates to the other players who also remain extremely unlikely to be dealt.
Well put and perhaps better than I put it in my comment below. There’s just no reason to apply that standard to young players and not veterans. Whatever their value is in a trade, you don’t dock them because you have to pay that value to acquire them. What about the players you are trading for them? The other team will presumably have to pay full price for them as well.
I am pretty sure there are players in the 30s I would swap with him, but there are a whole bunch of guys in the 40s I thought would be in the 30s and honorable mentions I thought would be in the 40s.
I think probably there are some veterans in the same tier as Buxton that I am going to be like “ do we really think he’s that valuable with that contract?” But also we are witnessing a huge boom of guys on pre-arb contracts (e.g., Crow-Armstrong) and with reasonable extensions (Raleigh) way outperforming expectations. I remember thinking that Riley Greene probably should be more valuable than he was last year in the high to mid teens, but when you start breaking it down he might not be in the Top 20 because there are so many guys ahead of him.
Yeah my thought exactly. Projected at ~3.5 war next year. Even if you dismissed upside, that production at that salary (and age) I think would warrant a top 50 spot.
But when you also factor in the upside (and I think he could be a top ~10-15 player) then I think I’d have him ranked a lot higher
Industry consensus on him is a bit lower than that, in fairness – scouts seem to have him as a <i>very</i> safe bet to be in that Top 30 range a la Raffy or Nimmo, but not necessarily a Kyle Tucker type.
Would any team in the league trade Anthony for Buxton?
No, no team would do that. Maybe 20 years ago. Buxton is a HM for me. I think the contact he is on is fair and was built the way it was with the expectation that he would miss time.
Was it just that at $15 million he’s a touch below the “stars on big deals” list? I’d take Freeman or Riley over him, and probably Olson, Harper, Turner, and Betts, too.
I’m struggling to think of a single example of a guy who was extremely injury prone for a decade suddenly becoming even the least bit reliable in his 30s. It seems stunningly unlikely.
It’s just really difficult with young players because the adjustment to the Majors is fairly high right now and while Anthony has breached the initial adjustment he doesnt have enough ABs for us to say it’s real just yet and even if it was, we have examples of guys who had really good first or second or first and second years and then the league made an adjustment to them and they couldnt adjust back!
Compare him to a guy close to him on the list – Wyatt Langford. I think if I was actually in charge of either Boston or Texas, my answer is I wouldnt trade either of those guys for each other. But if I was in charge of a Playoff team this year with a hole, I feel way safer with Langford. But if I’m a team that is kinda on the cusp or needs one more mega star to get there, I’d rather have Anthony. So end case, they’re pretty similar
And then you have a guy like Nick Kurtz, who might be a better hitter than both (with his own caveats), who is a HM
Anthony is better than Langford right now. If I was in charge of a playoff team I would be taking Anthony over Langford and Texas would too as he has 2 additional years of team control.
Regarding Kurtz…he’s a really bad defensive 1B running an unsustainable K rate. I’d be way more concerned about pitchers adjusting to Kurtz and him struggling to adjust than I would Anthony at this point. That said, Kurtz is performing really well and it’s really cool to see!
Kurtz is supposed to be a great defender at 1B; I wouldn’t worry about the metrics just yet. But his defensive upside is obviously limited by his position.
People keep talking about Kurtz like he was no brainer that was left off. He has a 32% K rate. If that climbs even a tiny bit higher, he will be at a point where it will be impossible to be a good hitter regardless of what else he is capable of doing. If he strikes out any more he quickly becomes Miguel Sano or Joey Gallo.
I agree with you and the batting line looks great right now. That said the Sox had a certain 2nd baseman that people were ready to cast a rookie of the year trophy for in April who is now getting a reset at AAA. Most rookies that start hot will hit a rough spot where pitchers adapt to them how those players in turn adapt and evolve really speaks to their future. I’m not 100% objective as a Sox fan so I’m aware that I could be overrating his value. The industry as a whole is valuing young cost controlled players and prospects higher than ever, every team wants them.
Good points…I think the issue is seeing it for a longer timeframe. Kristian Campbell was looking like a world beater for the first month too.
I’m willing to bet on Rafaela. Seems like the classic elite defense keeps him on the field long enough that he figures out how to be a better hitter profile. Not unlike Mr. Buxton
Carlos Gomez too. Thought he would be a gold glove banjo hitter his whole career, but the guy figured something out in his late 20’s. It didn’t last long, but the combination was elite while it lasted.
Or he’s Michael Harris all over again.
Not going to quibble as to what my picks were and what your picks are except that Langford is too close to Anthony. Anthony’s start feels like what we expected out of Langford and didn’t get or haven’t received.
In a trade, Anthony will bring back more than Langford.
Also, happy Buxton is on the list as he is great but he should’ve been fiftieth and in his own tier – we will never know what he could’ve accomplished.
Great work, Ben.
Yeah, in Langford’s first 129 PA (through May 4th 2024, he was injured after) he had a 69 wRC+ (.224/.295/.293) with an 8% walk rate and 22.5% K%.
Anthony through yesterday (137 PA) has a 121 wRC+ (.267/.380/.405), a 13.1% BB%, and 22.6% K%.
And Anthony is ~1.5 years younger than Langford was in his debut.
Though to be fair, I get Ben’s logic. Langford already HAS had a nice 3 WAR season and is working on another 3 WAR season this year, despite the injuries overall. Anthony might beat that, but Langford has it in the bag already and is probably the better player *today*. I think by next year though, Anthony is going to be 20+ spots higher than this and I’m bullish on him being even a top 20 guy as a ~22 year old who is a 120-140 wRC+ hitter that walks a ton and plays the outfield well enough.
As a big Buxton fan, I can’t believe I had never looked at his OAA and FRV for 2017. 46 OAA and 43 FRV is absolutely insane! Maybe the greatest case of what could have been without injuries ever.
Seeing Masyn Winn (who I wouldn’t trade for almost anything) this low – not saying it isn’t fair rating, mind – really depresses me with respect to el Birdos’ collective value.
This feels like an extremely fair spot for Winn. His bat just hasn’t shown any progression. Great defenders with average bats are valuable but they just aren’t as valuable as those who can flat out hit.
There’s a difference between appreciating a very nice player in Winn and not trading him for “almost anything”
I’m sick of this Wyatt langford hype. Average offense in a bandbox. No team would trade either of the prospects the tigers drafted instead of him(mcgonigle or Clark) for him
I wouldn’t call it a bandbox, recent park factors make it seem like it is actually the opposite (worse than Comerica). Of course park factors aren’t necessarily gospel, but still.
I think Langford is in a good spot, and will eventually figure it out. He started really slow last year too, passive to a fault.
You would trade him for either clark or mcgonigle. Facts
Confusing certainty for truth isn’t a great look, comrade
You wouldn’t call it a bandbox and you’d be right it plays plus for pitchers and is a weird cavern
Would an alternate universe version of Buxton that had been able to log 8-10 healthy seasons in his career have been a literal Hall of Famer? Seems likely to me. Surely one of the biggest “what ifs?” of this era.
Likely. He has 26 war at the age of 31 having played 852 games since breaking into the major leagues a whole decade ago. Can’t quite double that, but a 140 games a year average would have him right up there. I mean in 2021 he had 4.1 war in 61 games! Probably pulls down some hardware at some point.
I think it is more likely that he would be a first ballot hall of famer than a non hall of famer had he been able to be healthy. He would be in the conversation for GOAT defensive center fielders and combine it with 7 years, as of right now, as a 110-150 wRC+ batter. I don’t think it would be unreasonable to say that a healthy Buxton would have had a stretch from 2016-2022 where he would have been a 20-30 OAA fielder. He never spends 2023 as a DH and is still among the best CF, although no longer a top 1 or 2, defenders in 2024 and 2025. I think he would have a 10+ win season in 2021, multiple 8 win seasons, and is probably somewhere around a 60 to 70 win player through his age 31 season.
Really appreciate your thought and logic on Anthony, I hadn’t really parsed it that way but I’m fully on board now with the logic.
Feels like buying a long-dated call option that’s somewhat deep in the money right now. The intrinsic value is just his surplus value, his WAR over his cost controlled years vs his expected pay. But unless you are a team competing hard for 2025, you aren’t interested in his intrinsic value over time, so it makes more sense to buy a shorter dated option. But if you are a team looking to compete in a few years or build a long runway, you want the time value, or in this case the cumulative surplus of WAR – pay plus the ability for the gap to widen too if he keeps getting better.
Maybe if you are a contending team, you would be buying a deeper in the money, shorter dated option (and paying a higher premium potentially).
I guess the third leg of this analogy here is that the selling team is buying a long-dated, deep out the money call option when it comes to trading a good player today for a prospect.
(please give me some room here in this analogy I’m sure it is imperfect)
Anthony is a good player right now and likely to get better. He has value to your team in isolation, before considering his contract.
That is what the in-the-money call with a far out expiration date is. It’s intrinsic value now (since it’s already in the money) but with the majority of the cost to purchase that option being in the time value of it. The time value considers both how long is left for the option to remain in the money and upside for it to get deeper in the money.
Intrinsic value: how good the player is now relative to his pay. Where the stock price is now, relative to the strike price of the option.
Extrinsic/time value: how good the player can become and how long you have to decide/see what happens. When the call option expires and how much time you have to see where it goes.
Nope. It’s more like an annuity paying $40 million a year for 6.5 years will be very expensive, therefore a cheaper annuity paying $20 million a year for the next 3.5 years is worth more. It makes 0 sense. Sure, someone might prefer buying the latter, that doesn’t mean it’s more valuable, and this series is about “trade value”.
Roman Anthony is every bit as much of “an annuity paying $40m a year” as Andrew Benintendi, Jordan Walker, and Kristian Campbell were after 35 games.
It’s an average man, he could also be closer to Soto, Judge, Bobby Witt Jr.
After 175 trade value matchups I had Jacob Wilson #3 overall. Obviously that’s way too high, but I really liked him in that exercise. I don’t see him as a volatile player at all. If he’s slapping singles all over the place and playing average defense at SS, that’s a 4-win player with 6 years of team control. I think of him as having a very high floor.
Also his power isn’t quite as bad as they make it sound.Sure it is below league average, and ballpark is helping, but it is more than what was expected of him already and relatively new, so a chance he could grow into more.
Statcast has his xISO at .083.
He’s also not a good defensive SS, at the moment.
If he regresses to his current xwOBA, that’s a -5 shortstop with a 95 wRC+…which is a 2.5 WAR guy.
I mean, I doubt he grows into more, that’s just not really his game. But c’mon, he’s hit 10 HRs with 40% of the season to go, and had 7 last year at AAA in about a third of a season. He’s certainly never going to burst into a Brady Anderson type of season, but describing Jacob Wilson as having a “complete lack of power” is not just inaccurate, it’s kind of intentionally ignorant.
I think the issue is that we’ve seen players come up and have good years with this skill set, maybe even multiple years, but I can’t remember one this this era that’s made a career out of it with a power grade this low
These high bat control average guys are just very volatile year to year and while it was somewhat in question earlier in the season he’s now looking more in the Arraez/Jeff McNeil bucket than the Alex Bregman/JRam one and then it comes down to the question if you see him as a plus SS or just a guy who can stand there and may or may not be any different than a positive 2B and…ultimately I think the placement is correct
Very fun guy to have on your team. Reliable top player in the league? Well, he’s gonna have to prove that
I had a similar experience with Wilson in the trade tool. I kept choosing him over who he was paired against. I guess he’s more valuable to me than I expected. Wilson had a mouth-watering romp through the minors and now in 2025 his Arraez-ish profile has worked nicely at the MLB level despite the wicked slow bat speed
I think Wilson, Rafaela, and Langford seem a bit low. However, I can understand their ranking if you just prefer safer/more veteran style profiles over pure surplus value
I think though Roman Anthony is really, really low. I’d probably have him ~25 spots higher. I think if the redsox offered him in a trade for some of the guys likely ranked above his , those teams would be pretty happy.
RE: Wilson and Rafaela — young players who don’t walk really scare me. The downside risk is huge (not to pick on Michael Harris again, but he’s a great example of this or Gimenez), you’re one bad luck BABIP year from being average. If the glove doesn’t grade out and bad BABIP luck, now we’re talking replacement level.
Going to be interesting to see where PCA lands.
Buxton has a full no-trade (until the last 2 years when he has a5 team no trade) and has been adamant that he likes Minnesota and doesn’t want to go anywhere else. The only way he changes his mind is more money.
Didn’t belong on the list
Sorry, but everyone would change their mind to go to ny
That’s not what the list is measuring. This is a list of if they were traded what would they be worth.
If he were traded, the acquiring team would have to kick in money. That affects his value
All of that is irrelevant towards objective trade value
From the original article:
I’m ranking these players by trying to answer the following question: Taking everything about a player into account, which players would garner the highest trade value, from any team, if every team viewed players the same way I do?
You have to take Buxton’s no-trade and stated desire to stay in MN into account and that affects his value
You naive little man
I don’t know where you got that conclusion from that paragraph. NTCs have never been a part of this algorithm
Here’s where the fun is: would the Red Sox trade Anthony for Neto or Westburg? Would the Braves trade Baldwin for Winn?
As a Red Sox fan, I’d storm the capitol if they traded Roman Anthony for Jordan Westburg
That’s what’s fun about this list. I’m sure you wouldn’t trade Anthony for Buxton either. But if the Mets had an Anthony I’d trade him for Buxton, if he were available.
Really? 6.5 years of Anthony for 3.5 of Buxton? Buxton gets you maybe 1 more win this year and 1 more next year. After that it’s all Anthony. I can’t imagine doing that as the Mets or anyone else.
You absolutely would not trade the game’s best prospect for Byron Buxton
As a Red Sox fan, you’ve probably already stormed the capitol
You could use any of the triumvirate of Duran, Abreu and Rafaela as well. I am cringing at the thought of any one of the young, controlled for years and, most importantly, very good starting outfielders being traded in the next week but it has to be done. The sight of having to watch Rafaela play 2nd base is more than this lifelong Red Sox fan can handle. It is beyond ridiculous to take, arguably, the best defensive CF in the game and put him in a position that he isn’t even average.
They could just not play Rafaela in the infield. Nobody is forcing them to do this and they are adults who supposedly know things about baseball.
They might know things about baseball, but I’m going to need a citation on anyone involved in Red Sox leadership being an adult.
Given current team construction, I think I would say yes to that as a Braves fan. It would hurt to move Baldwin, but we don’t have a shortstop and Murphy is still a good catcher on a good deal.
Now the cardinals have even more catchers!
In a vacuum, would any team trade Anthony for Neto or Westburg? I could squint and see Neto but not Westburg.
Trading Anthony at this stage of his career would be comparable to trading a young Jeff Bagwell for a one month rental of Larry Anderson. He isn’t the top prospect in the game without reason and he just roped a double of off Wheeler as I write this.
I think there’s maybe only 5-7 players the redsox would trade Anthony for, and they’re all on the top 10 list
I’m pretty sure that’s not true.
You don’t think they’d trade him for Witt, Ohtani, Judge, Tatis Jr, Raleigh, Carroll, Crow-Armstrong, Gunnar, Skenes, Skubal, Crochet (if he wasn’t on the team, but knowing what we do now about his capabilities), Webb, Cristopher Sanchez, Hunter Brown, James Wood, Chourio, EDLC…
Even with the most generous take on Roman Anthony, I can’t really make an argument for him over more than two or three of those guys. Like, Jackson Chourio is 2 months older than him and is signed for the same amount of time as Anthony for less than if Anthony blows up and requires a ton of money in arbitration, plus there are two fairly reasonable team options for Chourio.
I think Anthony is going to be a star, with a chance of being a superstar. So when you factor in the age/contract, I think you could put him above a lot of really, really big names.
Like, as great as some of those guys are, I wouldn’t trade Anthony for 1.5 years of a pitcher (Skubal) or a pitcher in general (Sanchez, Webb, Crochet, Brown, etc).
Given the ages, it would be tough to move him for an older player too and/or catcher given catching aging curves
The young superstar position players (Witt, Carroll, Tatis, PCA, Wood etc) are the names you’d be after in an Anthony trade imo. Even a guy like ELDC or Henderson is tough bc while they are are right profile they are are probably not signing an extension
As far as Chourio, Langford, Merrill’s etc those are all great options. But my guess is teams would rather have the guy in house rather than trade for a guy they are less familiar with
Probably when it comes to Merrill and Langford, but Chourio is the same age as Anthony, already put up a 4 WAR season at 20 years old, and is signed for $10MM a year through the length of Anthony’s contract, plus two additional years in the form of reasonable team options.
I think the Red Sox would trade Anthony for Chourio tomorrow.
I think it would be a serious consideration, but Chourio is also only running a .308 xWOBA and teams always value their guys more so I’m not sure they would (and I don’t think the Brewers would make that trade either)
Even if this is true, “this team would be unreasonable” is a useless distinction to make for this exercise. If you want to make every team maximally unreasonable, then nobody would give the Red Sox anything for Anthony, and his trade value is zero, as they’d all rather just keep their own players.
That said, I don’t think this is true. It might be on the margins, but the Red Sox would 100% trade Anthony for more than seven distinct players. There’s just no possible way the list is that short. Not right now anyway.
Well, I think that is a key point. Surplus value is not 100% equal to what teams would/wouldnt do in terms of trade. it’s obviously a part of it, but it’s not 1-1, as every team has different evaluations/projections and naturally will be higher on their players, which makes sense bc 1: they have the most information about them and 2) they acquired them in the first place so it makes sense they are the type of player they value)
But yeah my point was that w similar tierd players (Anthony, Chourio, Merril, Caminero, etc) teams probably wouldn’t move their guy for a different guy for all types of reasons. It’s why you almost never see prospect swaps. Also if the homegrown guy “hit” in your uniform, it makes everyone look really really good. Where as if you traded the next star, you look really really bad. Teams almost never trade elite young players/prospects. Veteran Star trades are much more common than trading the guys who could be stars in pre-arb.
The real world answer is that prospects of this caliber simply do not get traded
Yoan Moncada? Probably more apt to say prospects of this caliber, who have already seen MLB success, do not get traded.
60 FV prospects get traded all the time – Anthony’s only the “#1 overall prospect” because this isn’t a great minor league class (who’s to say if gutting the minors has anything to do with it???).
If the Marlins make Perez available, you can bet the cost will start with a 60 FV guy – same goes for Skenes or Acuna or Webb or Wood.
Tbf a lot of outlets have him as a 65 FV.
Also, who was the last 60 FV prospect to be traded for a player that wasn’t an insane asset (2.5 yrs Soto, 3yrs of Sale). Talking about guys who were 60 FV when traded, not guys who became 60s (Caminero, Tatis)
I wouldn’t expect Isaac Collins to make the list by any means, but he’s tied with Drake Baldwin on the NL rookie WAR leaderboard, and a scooch above Wyatt Langford on the “as OF” leaderboard.
Getting Top 50 Trade Value guy kind of production out of a minor league R5 guy is a pretty good example of how the Brewers are able to keep on Brewers-ing year after year.
Zach Neto is fast Paul DeJong with less defense.
Paul Dejong and Zach Neto are tied for the same amount of 3+ win seasons (one).
Zach Neto is in his second MLB season, and will almost certainly pass 3 WAR this year by August
Paul DeJong had his best season at age 25. It doesn’t always get better!
Julio Rodriguez will attest to that.
This one hurt
Julio Rodriguez is going to be high on this list and it’s going to trigger me
You and me are on the same page with this. Few things in baseball raise my temperature more than people hanging onto the likes of Jo Adell, who has actually raised his career fWAR above 0 this year, and refusing to admit that they might have been mistaken in their evaluation.
Now that you say this… he’s 100% going to be the guy who is way too high for me.
It also doesn’t always get worse!
(Well, technically it eventually does, but not always right away)
The point is that was deJong’s only good season. At the very least, Neto is going to have two
Buxton is under contract until age 38. It’s a very team-friendly contract, but anyone who picks it up could see it underwater within the next few years.
He is a unique talent, but often injured.
I think that would scare a lot of FOs.
Not sure what you’re looking at. His contract ends after his age 34 season
Here’s how I’d break down my differences so far:
(1) Neto and Westburg to HM. Sorry guys.
(2) I think I’d put a whole bunch of the controllable role players + Oneil Cruz–specifically Donovan, Butler, Stowers, McLain, Keith, Duran, Rooker, Barger, and Paredes–in the same bucket as Langford, Wilson, and Wynn. I love Langford and think he’s going to break out, but he hasn’t yet and I don’t know when to stop waiting for it. If he just plays to his x-stats he’ll be in the same bucket as all those other guys, and I think he’d probably be second or third on my list (with Butler and Duran being ahead of him) but I have a very hard time separating them out. Wynn is also great, but I don’t think there’s a ton of upside there. Maybe some are in HM, maybe some of them are in the 40s…
(3) Rafaela and Nick Kurtz to about where Anthony is. I don’t think Rafaela is going to be this good consistently but that contract is so, so cheap for a gold glove CFer who hits about league average. Kurtz is great. Decent chance I would move them into the 30s, but not sure yet.
(4) Buxton down 5-8 spots. What we’re seeing this year is amazing but I just don’t think I can trust him to stay healthy.
(5) I would probably move CJ Abrams is back 5-8 spots, but wherever he is I’m slotting Pena in about 5-8 slots ahead of him. I don’t think there’s any comparison here.
(6) Mackenzie Gore and Joe Ryan over basically all of these guys except maybe Rafaela / Kurtz / Anthony. It’s really hard to find pitchers that good.
Joe Ryan to me feels like someone the league would value incredibly high. Top 15 or so pitcher with 2.5 years of control. Teams are always trying to acquire high end pitching.
Perhaps a guy with more value on the trade market than pure surplus value
Agree with most of this. Not a Neto fan and Westburg is kind of the definition of “good not great.” HM list is mostly fair. I’d have Langford and Butler ranked right next to each other, although I’d still take Langford higher since he has a little more control and a little more projection. The (surprising) defense is what has held his value, although I suppose it’s fair to note that a guy in his young 20s being *able* to play CF but not someone you actually want to put there for an extended stretch has a time-limit as a value
Agree on Kurtz and Anthony being similar but I dont really mind leaning on a pre-season preference. Rafaela is either wrong by 30 spots in the positive direction or a 100 spots in the negative so who knows there
Buxton IMO is properly ranked. His contract accounts for the health and as a result is not onerous for pretty much anyone. A high-payroll team can take him at a role player salary, a mid-market team can take him and sign a Harrison Bader to caddy for him and a cheapskate team can still afford him as their star while still having a stockpile of Jake Magnums or whoever to back him up. The deal also ends early before the typical star tax of having to pay for the late 30s. Is he currently at the apex of his value? Probably yes, but he should be. He is actually healthy going into a stretch run, still at an age where you can expect prime performance and plays a coveted position. He might get hurt tomorrow? Okay, yeah, and so could every pitcher you would trade for
And on that subject, yeah, I think Joe Ryan is the only real oversight thus far. Gore at 51 instead of 41 maybe but I dont view that as a huge deal
“I just think [Anthony is] more valuable when he’s already on your team than as someone you’d trade for. If you disagree with the conceit that the composition of the trade market for young players naturally suppresses their value in trade, you could slide these three up a few tiers, perhaps to the mid-30s. I just don’t think it would fit with the way trades work in practice.”
Positive feedback: this argument could be seen as partly validated on the basis that guys like Anthony (post debut, nearly all control still ahead of him, hasn’t played enough to settle his present performance level) rarely get traded or even considered for trade by their team. They check the boxes of control, upside, and limited (thanks to the early successful debut) downside, but for understandable reasons don’t quite draw their theoretical full trade value.
This reminds me back years ago when the Twins tried to open the door on the inclusion of Jacoby Ellsbury in the Johan Santana trade talks. That one rubbed me the wrong way throughout, because trades of the likes of Santana always talk about the “package” he merits bringing back, and meanwhile it was already on paper highly debatable whether Ellsbury alone was already worth more than Santana (heavily riding the hitter’s years of very cheap costs and the pitcher set to receive a top-market extension while entering his age 29 season) much less bring additional value along with him. Can’t fault the Twins for asking for Ellsbury and finding it fully justified, but it always seemed silly to me to subtract a high-confidence full-control piece like him to add someone like Santana at that point in his age and contract context.
What this article argues about these sorts of young players basically solves the seeming paradox. It explains why teams that hold such a piece at that point in their career context just hold on to them; the time for a deal was pre-debut or after performance is more firmly established and some of the cheap control used up. And it doesn’t mean this is how things *should* be; it just nails how things *are*. Well argued!
Isn’t that just evidence of these players’ value? Like if you look at #1 starters coming off of CY seasons, they also rarely get traded. It doesn’t mean they are uniquely valuable to their own team.
Definitely a fair point! But I think high-performance SPs who are still young enough do get traded enough to give us a sense of what they bring back (e.g. Johan Santana) – players like the Anthony profile are in something of a limbo in which they just don’t make sense to trade, even though they’re not far removed from a point of being tradeable.
I would be curious to have someone check on that “rarely gets traded” side of things – is it really true? It feels true, but might be less so upon inspection.
I will be making the safe guess that Jacob Wilson will not be on the list next year. It’s cool he makes contact, his contact quality suggest he has been insanely lucky however, he chases a lot and the contact quality been dreadful. Futhermore I believe in his drs number more than oaa number and think that’ll show in a larger sample.
On a different note I am shocked Lawrence Butler is just in the honorable mentions, he has a crazy bargain contract at 7/65.5 million + a 20 mill club option. He’s going to be a annual 3+ fWAR guy that could peak at 1-2 years over 5. He’d be in top 30 for me
I swear, Wilson hit like 3 WAR very quickly and has been stuck around there for a month or two now.
It’s cool, he’s a valuable and unique hitter but I think his main value trade-wise isn’t in skill but control. I’d only try to trade for him if I were a team that had a few years path of runway of contention or right around the cusp (kinda how the A’s are right now), but I’d have not much interest in trading for him if I were, say, the Red Sox (ignoring Story but assuming they needed and it made sense for a SS upgrade – Story is going nowhere this year).
But if I were the Brewers or Rays or Guardians, where my goal is to be cheaply competitive and cost efficient, he’d be a slam dunk.
Butler and Langford are very similar for me. Plus defense in a corner, under team control for quite a while, playing this year like a 2.5-3 win player, and a ton of untapped upside at the plate.
For me, they’re both in this section of the list, and maybe higher if I don’t like who is in the 30s tomorrow.
Yea unfortunately this is a very easy profile to bet against. You can slap singles and run a high BABIP for a few months or a year, but it’s far too volatile and one dimensional of a skill set to bet on long term
2025 has dampened the outlook for Butler a good deal. If he repeated 2024 he’d be way higher. but $20M for a 3 WAR COF with a volatile hitting profile is probably just going rate at that point, not some kind of deal.
Regarding Rafaela: baseball fans and especially Red Sox fans have seen this superlative defense and streaky hitting story before!
If Rafaela could simply limit the extent of his cold streaks to still involve a decent clip of XBHs and a “clutch” hit here and there, he’ll be fine no matter how the overall hitting line settles in. He just needs to avoid being the extended-period automatic out that cold-streak Jackie Bradley Jr was!
Well streaks are far less important than the overall batting line, and in Rafaela’s particular case he swings far too often to expect consistent production
Yes and no. Overall, I absolutely agree with you. But when the swings are particularly wide, it starts to become problematic. I don’t know if you were familiar with Bradley Jr or a similarly extreme streak hitter, but he was truly an automatic out when he was “cold”, and his streaks (good and bad) tended to last. Going more than a month with a guy being an automatic out does things to your lineup, at least with regards to the regular season marathon.
I would argue that you want the cold floor to either have something solid to it (say, a guy loses his power and even his BA, but walks enough to yield a decent OBP…so he’s still an okay tablesetter) or else you want to still feel like the guy can do damage in this one particular key at bat. And that’s something I believe Rafaela can manage even if he’s a career streaky guy! Because his poor approach at the plate is basically built in, the other side of that is he has skills when it comes to lashing the ball around – so he’s the sort of guy who can still put up a valuable situational double. The numbers will say that, when he’s cold, it doesn’t happen often enough, but it’s the fact that you still *feel* like it could happen that matters.
It’s more about psychology than anything else, but that is an element that matters over the length of the regular season and, thus, shouldn’t be overlooked.
Such an extensively researched an well-written article. Kudos!
Now on to the fun part–arguing!
This sounds like circular reasoning or something like it. It seems you could apply that reasoning to most any player and decide to knock off a chunk of their value. Buxton is a really good play making only $15 mil per year–what a great value! But why would you want to acquire him at cost? That detracts from the very attractive discount that his contract represents. So should we also knock off some of his value?
Further, is there any evidence that any teams are making the kind of calculation you describe above?
I get the reasoning. The win now teams might value established guys vs upside guys. With that said, where I disagree is that Anthony (or Wilson) is only costing ~ 500k. Even if they aren’t quite as good as veteran options right now, those options are costing you like ~15-30mil more a year. They allow you to spend on other players.
So you could have Anthony AND ~20mil more to spend on your team vs just that veteran guy.
When favoring in the long term upside too..
Isn’t that already baked in to their value though? Or am I missing something?
Well put, it’s nonsensical reasoning from Mr. Clemens.
The contrast between Rafaela and Buxton is interesting.
Reasonable Downside:
Rafaela – avg-ish CF for 6.5 years+ option at $50 mil., 13 WAR
Buxton – limited playing due to injury, 3 years, $45 mil., 5 WAR
Median Projection:
Rafaela – 6.5 years + option at $50 mil, ~21 WAR
Buxton – 3.5 years, $45 mil.+ incentives, ~10 WAR
Reasonable Upside:
Rafaela – 6.5 years + option at $50 mil, ~25 WAR
Buxton – 3.5 years of better than expected health, $45 mil.+ incentives, ~15 WAR
I think I take Rafaela in every one of those scenarios.
I am surprised that more don’t see the locked in, extremely team friendly, contract as more of a factor in Rafaela’s value. This 24 year old is at, or near the top, of the list of defensive players at a premium position. His offense appears to be making solid, if not far more than that, progress. The young players who will probably fill the top of this series will, if they perform, probably make multiples of the $50 million that Rafaela is under contract to receive.
Every good young player is on a “team friendly” contract based on how the system works. Sure he’ll be cheaper if he’s good, but more expensive if he flops.
Deciding on which players to take a chance on will do more for the franchise in terms of success than perhaps any other single factor. It isn’t the first few years that make a contract team friendly but making a guess on what that first few years after arbitration are worth, and even arbitration figures are getting quite large for 5 WAR players. The draft counts but that also looks more like chance than than anything. The first round are known by everyone and much of it is dumb luck like finding Mookie Betts on the 5th round, Paul Goldschmidt on the 8th or Mike Piazza on the 57th.
How happy would you be to have Anthony Volpe on an 8/50 right now?
Very happy?
Comparing Ceddanne Rafaela to Anthony Volpe is meaningless. Rafaela appears to be on the rise and if he hits .270 with 25 dingers along with the best defense at a premium position, his value, it the context of today’s rising valuations, could easily be in the $15-20 million per year during his arb years. I don’t see why Volpe was ever expected to be anything more than he is. His line in AAA was decent, but not great. average below .250 with some power. This translates into just about what he has become. Even at that, I would have jumped at the chance to sign him after his first year to an 8 year/$50 million dollar contract. There is risk in every early contract deal but the right one’s are huge for the team. I am very pleased with Brayan Bello being locked up through 2030 for less than $10 million AV. Compare that to $67 million for 3 years of Luis Severino or even having to go to $21 million for a year of batting practice from Walker Buehler.
Rafaela has 35 walks in over 1,000 plate appearances. The reasonable downside is much much lower than that.
Yeah…he’s probably clear of a Juan Lagares outcome at this point? But he was a significantly worse career hitter than Harrison Bader until like 2 months ago with the exact type of hitting profile that Michael Harris has tanked with and Bader didnt clear 13 WAR until this season
Through age 23, Bader had a wRC+ of 71, Rafaela’s was 79.
From 2018 to 2024 (ages 24-29), Bader put up 12.7 WAR, despite one of those seasons being only 60 games long.
Michael Harris has put up 10.2 WAR in his first 3 1/2 seasons.
These comps aren’t scaring me.
Just a friendly reminder that Buxton has a 155 wRC+. That’s not the kind of bat you can just go out and acquire, it’s a top 10 hitter in baseball. Juan Soto just got paid $700M for a career 158 wRC+ (granted his walk year was insane).
It’s easy to underrate Buxton’s value because he’s injured so often but his contract is super reasonable and he is an elite bat with, at worst, great defense when he’s playing.
If I’m a contender, I’m taking Buxton right now, when healthy, over Rafaela (and I really like Rafaela), but it’s close and everything in the 40 range to the HMs are relatively close in value so it’s really splitting hairs to a degree.
Making the ranking subjective turns what would be an interesting exercise into just another arbitrary Top X list. Is there a place on Fangraphs that shows current trade value based on projections and contract / control?
You can create such a list, but I think it would be boring.
You can ask Dan to run projections through the end of everyone’s contract and calculate out surplus value, but if you do and he does it then I humbly request you buy a membership.
I love how these articles bring out so many commenters with all the dissenting opinions. Mine are that I’m really surprised Langford, Neto and Winn are this low. Anthony too but I’ll accept the premise there. I do expect to be surprised that guys in the 30s and 20s are ahead of those I mentioned, Langford especially
Rafaela is certainly properly placed in the High Volatility Tier. I would have had him higher, and by quite a bit, because of his dramatic improvement in most aspects of hitting. These are huge improvements, mostly notably in lowering his K-rate by 50% in 2 seasons, and indicate that he is learning the intricacies of hitting. No one expects to hit .330 with 30 or more HR’s but if he becomes a consistent 120-130 wRC+ hitter then the contract is the key to his value. His brilliant defense and a 125 wRC+ is easily a 6-8 WAR player and would have a value in the $20 million, or higher, dollar range even in arbitration. Similar rising young players who are not under long term contracts cannot have his long term value because of cost uncertainty.
The only player-seasons this century to have a 125 wRC+ or worse and still manage at least 7 WAR are 08 Russell Martin and 2011 Ian Kinsler. It’s really hard to be an MVP-level player with only 125 wRC+.
I mean you’re describing like a 99th percentile outcome here. I don’t think it’s pessimistic to say that Rafaela is almost certainly not going to be a 6-8 win player with his offensive profile
I doubt if you have seen his performance over the past 2 months.
He hasn’t shown he can even break a 115 wRC+ at this point. If he can get there sure, but there’s already so much handwringing about how he’s gotten to a 111 wRC+ that we’re firmly in the “if he can just be an average bat, that’s a huge win” territory.
I think Langford and Neto were both in the back of my top 10 after 400 picks. Not that this is wrong, I’m just a little surprised. It’s a loaded list
Also, I’d have to think Oneil has more value in the trade market than simply in surplus value
Teams are going to look at that bat speed and the athleticism and be like … he could be a top 10 player
“The Pirates aren’t as good as we are, we can get more out of him”
I think for most teams they would be right
I had Anthony #2 on my rankings behind Odoacer
I’m confused by all the “_wouldn’t trade #x for #y player.” A list like this isn’t somethong i’d consider a team would trade a player for one above, but to say this player is likely to get more, and better, offers. Am I misunderstanding?
Why isn’t it “would a team trade a player for one above”? If the player above gets better offers then he would have more value and why wouldn’t you want him more than the player you have?
Fit? Need? Risk.aversion (injury, clubhouse rep). Probsbly more than I could think of.
I think some of those are overlapping, you can ignore unreported injuries for our purposes while reported injuries should already be taken into account, as is clubhouse rep.
Hard to believe, Michael Busch, crushing it with the 5th best WRC+ in MLB would be traded for any of these guys potential. 27 yrs old, durable, and 4 yrs of team control remaining.
He’s the best platoon bat in MLB right now. YMMV.
Having a great year, but we’re still talking about a platoon 1st baseman.
He’s nowhere near this list
Sedan Rafaella would ReCoupe a lot of value in a trade. He could Crossover to being a household name if he’s able to find a more Compact swing.
ZERO percent chance Red Sox would say yes to a Buxton for Anthony trade.
Anthony ranked way too low.
The question is not would the Red Sox trade Anthony for Buxton
It’s which team would blink if the other called. Then, if someone else called…how much would they have to ask
I mean, it’s one of the questions. Also the Twins would, at worst, give it serious consideration, while the Sox would not. Anthony is too low and it’s not a hot take.
With the bigger playoff field, I wonder if trade value has shifted since teams might be more reluctant to sell
This is about player value IF they were to be traded. The likelihood of an actual trade is irrelevant.