2019 Trade Value: #41 to #50

As is the annual tradition at FanGraphs, we’re using a week around the All-Star Game — when the industry pauses to take a metaphorical breather — to take stock of the top-50 trade chips in the sport. For more context on exactly what we’re trying to do here, see the Honorable Mentions post linked at the top of the page.
For this post and the four to follow, I’ll present a graphic (by way of the wizard Sean Dolinar) breaking down each player’s objective skill level (represented, in this case, by a five-year WAR projection from ZiPS), contract/team-control details, rank in last year’s series, and then year-by-year details of age, WAR, and contract through the end of 2023, although a couple players have control beyond those five years, and some, you’ll notice, show projections for fewer years to reflect when those players reach free agency. For those readers who are partial to spreadsheets rather than blocks of text, I’ll also include all of the players we’ve ranked so far in grid format at the bottom of the post.
It should be noted that the ZiPS WAR forecasts influenced the rankings a bit. For players who were bunched together, it acted as an impartial tiebreaker of sorts, but the industry opinions I solicited drove the rankings.
With that said, let’s get to the bottom 10 spots on this year’s Trade Value list.
| Five-Year WAR | +15.7 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2023 |
| Previous Rank | – |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 27 | +3.4 | Pre-Arb |
| 2021 | 28 | +3.4 | Arb1 |
| 2022 | 29 | +3.2 | Arb2 |
| 2023 | 30 | +3.0 | Arb3 |
Castillo stands in his own category, and won the toss up for the 50th spot that came down to the top of the Honorable Mentions’ “Long-Term Control of Young and Solid Everyday Bats” (Eloy Jimenez, Alex Verdugo, Austin Riley, Andrew Benintendi, Austin Meadows), the top of the non-Wander Franco prospect list (Royce Lewis, Jo Adell, Bo Bichette), the next-best-short-control star hitter (Mookie Betts), the next-most-similar controllable starting pitcher, but with a Tommy John and less of a track record (Lucas Giolito), and the next-best star with a huge contract who’s still really good (Chris Sale).
Ultimately, Castillo is due the least (or very close to it) of all of these players and, aside from Sale, projects to be worth just as much over the next 4.5 seasons as anyone else in this group. Each player had some support from industry sources, though a few also received notable negative feedback: some think Sale’s contract eliminates 10-plus clubs from pursuing him, some thought Jimenez’s contract was too rich for what he’s done in the bigs thus far, and some wonder if Riley will strike out too much. I feel fine taking an established, durable mid-rotation starter with premium stuff who’s 26 and is trending up, instead of taking on $150 million and crossing my fingers, or gambling on one of those hitters having the value in 2024 and beyond to make the difference to a club’s playoff chances.
| Five-Year WAR | +15.2 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2023 |
| Previous Rank | HM |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 26 | +3.4 | Pre-Arb |
| 2021 | 27 | +3.4 | Arb1 |
| 2022 | 28 | +3.1 | Arb2 |
| 2023 | 29 | +2.9 | Arb3 |
On last year’s list, I had Olson at 51; he sneaks onto the list this year, even with one less season of control. He did so by somehow hitting for even more power this season despite breaking a hamate bone in Japan in March, an injury that typically saps power for months, if not a year. Olson is a good candidate for the game where you show a friend the resumes of two players but obscure their names, and your pal realizes the hyped, sexy, up-the-middle prospect actually has clearly worse numbers than the other player (Olson in this case) who isn’t any of those things and often plays in a smaller market. Olson has put up 7.1 WAR in a little less than two full seasons of playing time. You could argue he’s been just as good as Rhys Hoskins over that span, but with much less fanfare. If you normalized for playing time, his performance would put him among the top five first baseman in the game; more than a few teams have noticed, even if the average fan likely hasn’t.
| Five-Year WAR | +14.4 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2023 |
| Previous Rank | – |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 24 | +3.0 | Pre-Arb |
| 2021 | 25 | +3.0 | Arb1 |
| 2022 | 26 | +2.9 | Arb2 |
| 2023 | 27 | +2.8 | Arb3 |
Mondesi was tough to grade as a prospect because the Royals did things that made it tricky, like putting him in High-A as an 18-year-old, where he played the entire season and posted a 69 wRC+, which is #nice but not nice; he wasn’t much better the next year as a teenager in Double-A. Then he played 52 games in his age-20 season and had a brutal cup of coffee in his age-21 season, a letdown after having had a bit of a breakthrough campaign at Triple-A until then. Last season, he had a really strong 75 game big league look as a 22-year-old, which has continued this year. If you take Mondesi’s 2018 and 2019 big league performance and give him the playing time of the top shortstops in baseball (which adds roughly 450 more PA), he’s either the fifth or sixth best shortstop in the game over that span, behind Francisco Lindor, Javier Baez, Xander Bogaerts, Manny Machado, and Trevor Story. That sounds awfully similar to what I said about Olson, and while ZiPS projects Olson for slightly higher WAR, Mondesi is an insane athlete with all kinds of margin for error given his position and athleticism, while Olson has to keep doing exactly what he’s doing exactly as well as he’s doing it.
| Five-Year WAR | +17.6 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2021 |
| Previous Rank | #13 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 26 | +4.0 | Arb2 |
| 2021 | 27 | +3.9 | Arb3 |
For last summer’s version of this list, ZiPS projected Seager to be worth 5.5 and 5.7 WAR in 2020 and 2021. This year’s updated figures are well below that, as you can see. Seager was so good before Tommy John surgery knocked out most of his 2018 that he’s still an elite player, though the current version is hitting more fly balls and with less authority, while his defensive metrics are also a bit worse. Only 2.5 years of control for $20-something million through arbitration is still a really nice bargain, but Seager isn’t a premium, franchise-defining piece like he once was.
| Five-Year WAR | +12.6 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2022 |
| Previous Rank | #31 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 27 | +3.2 | Arb1 |
| 2021 | 28 | +3.0 | Arb2 |
| 2022 | 29 | +2.6 | Arb3 |
Sanchez has continued to make progress defensively in the softer skills that are harder to quantify over the course of his major league career. On the quantification front, a couple of clubs noted that their 2019 framing figures for Sanchez are much more positive than ours; combining that with Sanchez’s improved health and offensive bounce back mean he stays on the list despite losing a key year of control. Cubs catcher Willson Contreras hasn’t made the same kind of soft skills defensive progress, so he goes just behind Sanchez, into the honorable mention tier this year.
| Five-Year WAR | +19.5 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2021 |
| Previous Rank | #5 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 25 | +4.2 | Arb2 |
| 2021 | 26 | +4.3 | Arb3 |
Looking at the 2020 and 2021 ZiPS projections on last year’s list and comparing them to this year’s version (6.3 and 6.6, respectively) is an easy way to sum up what’s happened to Correa in the interim. The steady stream of minor injuries the last three seasons have combined with his fringy shortstop defense and an offense that has settled in around the 125ish wRC+ area to make the current Correa just the more offensively impressive version of Corey Seager, with the same short window of control. Granted both looked to be perennial All-Stars and the best at their position, and they’re both still in that area, but the trajectory they cut after their first few seasons has adjusted downward a bit. That said, the promise of a six-win season still remains and since that’s incredibly rare to find with multiple years of cost control, they’re both still on the list.
| Five-Year WAR | +24.2 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | $70.0 M |
| Team Control Through | 2021 |
| Previous Rank | #41 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 35 | +5.6 | $35.0 M |
| 2021 | 36 | +5.6 | $35.0 M |
Scherzer was the hardest player to place on this year’s list for a number of reasons. The extent of the deferrals in his contract makes it difficult to know exactly what he’s due for the rest of his deal without some sleuthing and more than quick maths. He’s an elite 34-year-old pitcher with some effort to his delivery, so you wonder when things may back up. He has produced a lot of WAR in a short period of time (all things being equal, it’s preferable to have impact), while other players in this area have a similar or lesser total WAR in their controlled years over more years, a difference in player value distribution that made Scherzer’s relative placement on the list challenging. He’s an unquestioned ace with extra value in the playoffs compared to a hitter of the same quality (though exactly how much more isn’t clear), but with three postseasons left under contract, that value can only be assumed by clubs expecting to make three straight playoff appearances. Given the big guarantee left on his deal, a significant number of teams can’t even consider acquiring him. The advice I received about his ranking came mostly from those extremes, and I’m trying to capture the median.
I did an updated version of the math Dave did when Scherzer signed, and that math caused me to move Scherzer down the list from where he was initially. Scherzer’s deal basically broke down into $15 million a year every year from 2015 to 2028. Other breakdowns you may see are more focused on paper amounts, when he has a salary, but since most of that money is deferred until later, that salary doesn’t really reflect cash flow. For 4.5 seasons of pitching, during which he posted an absurd 31.3 WAR (behind only Mike Trout and Mookie Betts), Washington paid Scherzer just under $70 million, or at least $200 million below the market rate for that WAR. For the next 2.5 seasons, Scherzer is due just over $140 million, though much of that is deferred. Once you do an NPV calculation to account for the time value of money, Scherzer’s remaining money after this season is equivalent to a two-year, $102.75 million deal.
That’s a risible amount of money for a pitcher’s age-35 and age-36 seasons, but it is still under market and creates surplus value in the way we typically calculate such things, even though most clubs wouldn’t offer close to that figure. The quick-and-dirty calculation, using a $10 million per WAR figure and going straight off of the ZiPS projections, has Scherzer worth roughly $110 million over that term. But that ignores the rest of this season (2.9 WAR per ZiPS for just over $5 million), the additional value of three potential playoff runs, and whatever value a team may accrue from acquiring the best pitcher in baseball and preventing him from going to their competition.
There’s clearly surplus value — and a good amount of it — for the big market perennial contenders, but Scherzer’s value to the other 25 to 27 teams is either negative or hard to define, meaning you could make a credible argument to rank him anywhere from about 35th all the way down to 70th in this median-club-focused exercise.
EDIT: After speaking with some execs today about Scherzer’s contact, it appears it’s actually a little more palatable than how I understood it above. Scherzer’s pay in 2019, 2020 and 2021 is in the form of a $15 million signing bonus each year, but the nature of signing bonuses (aside from tax considerations) is that it’s tied to the moment the contract was signed, so the Nationals can’t assign/trade that obligation. The actual salaries for 2019-2021 are $35 million each year but it’s all deferred, to be paid in $15 million annually through 2028, for $105 million in total.
So, this means that if you trade for Max Scherzer tomorrow, it looks like you wouldn’t pay him a dime until 2023 when his contract is up and the deferred payments for the second half of 2019 would kick in. The NPV of those obligations, if we assume this deal is happening in exactly the middle of the 2019 season (we’re a little past that now), in Opening Day 2020 dollars, is a 2.5-year, $64.61 million deal, or reasonably close to the same as the $70 million he’s due on paper for 2020 and 2021. All that for a ZiPS projected 13.9 WAR in the regular season, with a chance to use Scherzer in three postseasons. I’ll continue to dig to fully confirm this, but in light of this new information, you could make a case to move Scherzer as high as the 20’s on this list. The smallest market clubs still wouldn’t take the contract, but they could if they wanted to and mid-market clubs can probably pay two players in the $20-30 million area annually. I also would advocate for a #FreeMax campaign to get your club to acquire 2.5 seasons of Scherzer for (somehow) $0 while he plays for your team. If your team goes the private equity route and declares bankruptcy after 2022, the obligation could be $0 for 14 projected WAR!
| Five-Year WAR | +14.8 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | $52.8 M |
| Team Control Through | 2025 |
| Previous Rank | #32 |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 28 | +3.5 | $9.3 M |
| 2021 | 29 | +3.2 | $10.5 M |
| 2022 | 30 | +3.2 | $11.0 M |
| 2023 | 31 | +2.7 | $11.0 M |
| 2024 | 32 | +2.2 | $11.0 M |
Suarez is one of the least exciting guys to make the list, as he hasn’t yet had a 4.0 WAR season (though he’s come close), he wasn’t a hyped prospect, and he doesn’t have super loud tools or a bunch of notable highlights. That said, he’s better than almost every player who can’t boast all four of those things, and he’s durable, in his prime, and under cheap control for awhile. In the Scherzer blurb, I mentioned how, all things being equal, you’d like all of your WAR and dollars concentrated in the smallest window possible for maximum impact, rather than having a cheap, two-win player for the rest of time. Suarez is a little more of the latter, so again, he continues to not be the sexiest player on the list, but this isn’t a list of sexiest players, even though that sounds like a traffic bonanza.
| Five-Year WAR | +13.9 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2024 |
| Previous Rank | – |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 22 | +2.7 | Pre-Arb |
| 2021 | 23 | +2.7 | Arb1 |
| 2022 | 24 | +2.9 | Arb2 |
| 2023 | 25 | +2.9 | Arb3 |
| 2024 | 26 | +2.7 | Arb4 |
Soroka doesn’t really fit the current major league trends of big velo, strikeouts, shorter outings, four-seamers, curveballs, working up in the strike zone, heavy off-speed usage, and vertical arm slots. He may actually be best described as the opposite of all of those things, though he still has three above average pitches, so isn’t as if he has pedestrian stuff. Soroka works 90-95 with a heavy sinker and throws a hard slurve at 82-86 mph, with both pitches grading above average to plus. Apart from style, the other potential issue to monitor here is that he has missed some time with shoulder soreness, which many believe stemmed from the nearly 300 innings he threw in his age-18 and age-19 seasons in A-Ball for Atlanta. For these reasons, you could argue Soroka belongs a few spots lower, but he definitely belongs in the top 50 because he’s posted 3.3 WAR in 122 career major league innings, he’s still 21 years old, and he has strong mental makeup and intangibles that some tie back to his amateur hockey days in Calgary. Soroka has the potential to still improve and turn into a durable, mid-rotation or better starter, with real playoff value due either to his quality or bulk of innings.
| Five-Year WAR | +14.0 |
| Guaranteed Dollars | – |
| Team Control Through | 2024 |
| Previous Rank | – |
| Year | Age | Projected WAR | Contract Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 27 | +2.9 | Pre-Arb |
| 2021 | 28 | +2.9 | Arb1 |
| 2022 | 29 | +2.9 | Arb2 |
| 2023 | 30 | +2.8 | Arb3 |
| 2024 | 31 | +2.5 | Arb4 |
Woodruff was grouped near Soroka throughout this process because he has the same years of control and has put up a similar big league performance, but Woodruff gets a slight edge given that he lacks an arm issue, has a lower innings total, is older/closer to being a finished product, has had success in relief, shows greater velocity (he’s averaging 96.1 mph this year in the rotation), and has performed better in 2019 than Soroka. Woodruff was never a consensus top 100 type, though he got pretty close when he was in the upper minors, grading as a 50 FV at his best for us. He was buried in his draft year at Mississippi State, going in the 11th round due to a lack of innings and command issues, making him another development success for Milwaukee. Woodruff still has some sinker/slider, fastball-heavy tendencies but they aren’t as strong as Soroka’s, and while a club wouldn’t trade for him with the intent of putting him in the bullpen, his 2018 regular season and postseason success in that role gives teams more usage options than most successful, young, hard-throwing starters offer.
| Rk | Pv | Player | Age | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 41 | – | Brandon Woodruff | 26 | +2.9 Pre-Arb |
+2.9 Arb1 |
+2.9 Arb2 |
+2.8 Arb3 |
+2.5 Arb4 |
| 42 | – | Mike Soroka | 21 | +2.7 Pre-Arb |
+2.7 Arb1 |
+2.9 Arb2 |
+2.9 Arb3 |
+2.7 Arb4 |
| 43 | 32 | Eugenio Suarez | 27 | +3.5 $9.3 M |
+3.2 $10.5 M |
+3.2 $11.0 M |
+2.7 $11.0 M |
+2.2 $11.0 M |
| 44 | 41 | Max Scherzer | 34 | +5.6 $35.0 M |
+5.6 $35.0 M |
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| 45 | 5 | Carlos Correa | 24 | +4.2 Arb2 |
+4.3 Arb3 |
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| 46 | 31 | Gary Sanchez | 26 | +3.2 Arb1 |
+3.0 Arb2 |
+2.6 Arb3 |
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| 47 | 13 | Corey Seager | 25 | +4.0 Arb2 |
+3.9 Arb3 |
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| 48 | – | Adalberto Mondesi | 23 | +3.0 Pre-Arb |
+3.0 Arb1 |
+2.9 Arb2 |
+2.8 Arb3 |
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| 49 | HM | Matt Olson | 25 | +3.4 Pre-Arb |
+3.4 Arb1 |
+3.1 Arb2 |
+2.9 Arb3 |
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| 50 | – | Luis Castillo | 26 | +3.4 Pre-Arb |
+3.4 Arb1 |
+3.2 Arb2 |
+3.0 Arb3 |
Kiley McDaniel has worked as an executive and scout, most recently for the Atlanta Braves, also for the New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles and Pittsburgh Pirates. He's written for ESPN, Fox Sports and Baseball Prospectus. Follow him on twitter.
Seager will almost assuredly fall off this list next year.
Its nearly impossible for any player to make this list with 1 year of control.
If he’s guaranteed to be off the list next year, he shouldn’t be on the list this year.
I don’t mean to belittle you, but that statement is absurd both on its face and after a little reflection.
Next year has nothing to do with the present in this particular context.
That’s how markets work. If everyone knows a $1 stock is worth $2 dollars tomorrow, it will be worth that today. If it’s plainly evident he will be outside top 50 next season and we can all likely name 5-6 names both younger, cheaper and more intriguing then Seager’s value should drop RIGHT NOW.
An odd way of saying he is overrated I guess
In your analogy, you have failed to take into account the expected dividend in between now and then.
southie, that’s simply incorrect. Your stock example doesn’t fit into this situation. What if someone was retiring at the end of the season – would his trade value be zero right now, because it’s guaranteed to be zero a year from now?
In the case of someone like Seager, the difference between this year’s value and next year’s value is a full season of his performance. That’s valuable.
Futhermore, everyone player would have zero value if he was correct, since every player will retire eventually. If Wander Franco retires in 2039, then in 2038 he would have zero value. But since he has zero value in 2038, he’d then have zero value in 2037, and so on.
It’s weird that you say “he is overrated” by a list about statistically projecting a player’s value relative to his contract while also just assuming that “we can all likely name 5-6 names both younger and cheaper and more intriguing” as if that’s the same as naming 5-6 names younger and cheaper and more intriguing.
So if Mike Trout wasn’t on this list in 13 years should he be on it now?
We’ll see- if he’s fully healthy in the second half, he could be due for some improved luck- his K%, BB%, ISO, and Hard% are all pretty similar to when he was excellent in 2016 and 2017. His line drives are down five percent though, which is probably driving a 45 point drop in BABIP. The fly balls have spiked, but if he can generate a few more hard hit balls or get some more line drives, his offensive stats will look a lot better.
If he falls off, it’ll be due to his contract status or yet another injury.
Lol.
interested to see where joey gallo ends up on here
I’m more interested to see where Ozzie Albies lands.
meh…uber cheap 2-3 win players are valuable but i’m not holding my breath to find out where they end up on the list
What about cheap 3-4 win players who are controlled for the next seven years with 100% cost certainty and who ZiPs projects to be a 5-win player in 2021? I think it’s an interesting case.
Acuna has to be #1, right? Albies has to be way up on the list but i’d take his teammate for slightly more money.
If by slightly more, you mean more than double the money, then sure.
when factoring in his projected future value….it is slightly more. Its not exuberant. He’s projected for 40+ WAR iirc over his contract, 60M$ more is chump change
lol what is this, Ozzie was worth 5 wins in 2017 (extrapolated out for a full season), he was worth 3.8 wins in 2018 and is on pace for another 4 win season and is still one the 15 youngest position players in baseball(min 100 AB’s in 2019).
Brandon Wood (shakes fist)!
lol.
He didn’t hit 175 minor league HR’s for nothing!
I really don’t understand the placement of Scherzer ahead of Correa. They both have 2 years of control. The difference in projected WAR over the 2 years is 2.7 in favor of Scherzer. However, when salaries are factored in, Scherzer makes 70 mil while Correa will most likely make less than 30. Factor in that Correa is 10 years younger, a hitter, and plays a premier defensive position, and I just don’t see how he has less surplus value to a team than Scherzer. Is it just that teams would prefer more WAR, even at a higher cost?
It’s a 1 one spot difference. So, it’s not like author has a strong opinion who is the better value here.
I’m actually not too convinced that Scherzer belongs in this list after reading about his deferrals.
$110M for 2.5 years of Scherzer sounds good, but it also seems pretty close to fair market value.
The thing is that market value for the best pitcher in baseball is inherently valuable. There’s only one Scherzer and you can’t replace him and he can’t oppose you if you have him
That’s why his value is so volitile. Not all teams can afford market value for his performance. But those 5 or so who could would value it very highly.
How much do you think the Yankees would pay today for 2.5 years of Scherzer? It would be enormous.
It’s a narrow market, though. The Dodgers probably wouldn’t even though they could afford it as their starting pitching is so good. And the Scherzer market would basically be LAD, NYY, BOS.
Let’s look at Correa. How much would he get as a free agent for 2.5 years of his service?
Say $50~60M?
In the meantime, he will get paid ~$20M in arbitration making his surplus value around $30~40M.
Then the question becomes is Scherzer’s market value $140M~$150M for 2.5 years?
For comparison, Kershaw signed $93M/3 year extension.
Sale signed $145M/5 year extension with deferrals.
Is 2.5 years of Sherzer (34-36 y.o.) preferable to 5 years of Sale (31-35 y.o.)?
Not unless you have a really extreme discount factor.
Granted, these are extensions so it is not completely free market price but given that Sale was in his walk year, (and judging by people’s reaction) it seemed pretty close to fair value.
The theoretical FA contract for the period of 2019-2021 would be substantially larger than $60M…
Which would strengthen my argument. I was trying to be conservative.
Right, the question is really what premium would you pay to have Max Scherzer on the mound for a game 7? That’s the amount of surplus value he has for a contender. No position player has the same ability to swing a high-leverage game, even if he might be just as useful getting you to that game over the course of a season.
He still has a lot of positive value because the value of WAR is non-linear. This is especially true for someone like a starting pitcher, where there is only one of them playing for you at a time (as a pitcher, at least)
But yes, that extra $25M knocks him down quite a bit. I’d put him right about where he wound up.
WAR is close enough to linear when you get away from 0, that it can be treated as linear. The Angels have the most concentrated source of WAR since 2015 (Trout). Over that time, they have 367 wins while WAR suggests they should have 362 wins (~1% off and well within error bars of WAR). If Trout isn’t good enough to significantly skew the non-linear nature of WAR, it probably isn’t that non-linear.
Playoff starting pitchers are likely valued a little more than their WAR suggests as their usage goes up in the playoffs.
Not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying that without Trout’s WAR they project to 362 wins since 2015 and with him they only have 367? Because if that 362 includes Trout than it would obviously be a lot lower without him.
Overall, one four win player is more valuable than 2, 2 win players because you can get something out of the other roster spot, even if it just 30 IP from a LOOGY. Looked at another way, it is easier to improve a really bad position than an average one. If you start nine players worth 2 WAR each then adding an All Star quality 4 win player only gets you 2 wins. If you replace a replacement level player with that All Star you get 4 wins.
That’s true, but it’s not the main reason it’s valuable. It’s more valuable because
(a) you only have 8 position players on the diamond and one pitcher, and you can only play one person at each of those spots at a time.
and
(b) It’s a whole lot easier to upgrade from a 0-win player to a 2-win player than from a 2-win player to a 4-win player
Those two things, combined, make it so that the route towards having a 4-win player in one spot and a 2-win player in the other is always easier if you already have the 4-win player in place.
Why would the acquiring team have to pay all of the deferrals though? Wouldn’t they only have to pay the $15 mil/year deferral for the years that he was on their team? And the Nats would have to pay the deferrals for the years that he pitched in Washington?
If he gets traded at the deadline before he hits free agency, the acquiring team would be paying $105 mil in deferrals for 2 months of his service?
Exactly, it seems nobody is really sure how the money would be paid out. I think you have to go with one assumption and see where he falls under that assumption. Dancing back and forth between paying all the deferrals or not just confuses the matter.
I believe deferrals are tied to specific years of his contract, so each season you have him you are paying a specified amount of his deferred salary.
A lot of it has to do with health and confidence of performance. This is Correa’s low point. He’s been injured and seen his performance and his projections dip. He’s still an elite level talent, and if everything was right with him you’re probably going to get way more value from him than guys in the next 10 spots, but there’s just no guarantee he ever gets back to that.
Scherzer, meanwhile, is old, but he’s a dependable as anyone. He’s at the point where there isn’t a pitcher in the game you have more confidence in to perform at a truly excellent level for the forseeable future. Because of his age and contract size he can’t really rise any further, but he’s so consistently incredible that he’s able to compete for value with a guy like Correa.
I vividly remember Scherzer’s rookie season. I’m not sure I’m ready to accept him being, legitimately baseball-old.
I’d call it even odds which of the two misses more time over the next 2.5 years due to injury. Scherzer is a pitcher, but Correa has well-earned the dreaded “injury prone” label.
I don’t know if this was Kiley’s logic, but Scherzer being a pitcher means 1) almost any team gets added value because the guy he’s displacing is the fifth starter, and 2) he has extra value in the playoffs. A few points of WorldSeriesPA is huge.
I’m thinking the top spot will be between Acuna and Bellinger
Tribute to Bellinger’s insane level of play to put him in the conversation, but I don’t see how he can beat the extra 5/$65 million that Acuna’s contract offers.
In the near term, Trout’s should be 3-4 WAR better for $24 million/year, but Acuna being 6 years younger probably tips the scales (though Trout’s controlled for two years longer, and will probably still be worth more than $36 million in 2030).
Does anyone have any predictions on where Trout will be placed now that he has the mega deal?
At least one spot behind yadi
I feel it would be fitting if Trout is just never spoken of. Not on the list, not in the HM, no questions answered. The elephant in the room. He’s that big.
Because man, his trade value seems close to an unanswerable question. He’s NaN on the list.
[ETA: someone make a “he’s the NaN” joke that’s funny?]
If I were hellbent on acquiring Scherzer, I would probably be making sure that the trade was done in such a way that the money he’s owed, despite all the shenanigans, balanced out between both my team and the Nats as if he were paid in some regular “X dollars per year of service” style as opposed to the way it really is.
The Nats obviously don’t have to do that, and can very well say, “You want the Max, you pay the Max.”, but if they want a larger return from a far greater pool of suitors than the way it is now.
I can see why he’s so hard to rank!
One thing I find most fascinating about these lists is they are typically just guys fighting time. They aren’t getting worse or anything, they just simply have one fewer year of control and cost more. Unless they get better to offset the amount they lose in time/cost, they just move lower year-over-year. It’s nothing they are doing to be less valuable, it’s just the two of the three functions of value (production, age, control) fighting against them.
This reminds me a bit of the term theta in finance, where the value of an option decreases just as it gets closer to expiration. The closer it gets, the more it loses, and something like

From 120-30 days, the decline is fairly linear, but the final 30 days of an option make up for like 60% of the time value of the option.
As players get closer to free agency, each year they lose has a greater impact in value. Going from 6 years of control to 5 is mostly nothing, but going from 2 years to 1 year is a lot.
I’m just amazed that you can include an image in your post. How did you do that?!
Just gotta copy the link to the image in the post is all, like website.whatever/image.JPEG
Cheers!
I’m going to test this out.
EDIT: It worked!
I’m testing to see if it works with images in my google drive:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1c6I1vyfJr64kP3R-eVJTe-ZWN0P2RN5q
EDIT: …and the answer is no. That’s too bad. I suspect the url needs to clearly be directed to an image file.
EDIT 2: if anyone is interested the link shows a plot of the correlation in player defense from 2018 to 2019 so far. Surprisingly the R^2 is 0.56!
Trying again:

That’s better!
We’ll see if you’ve opened the reddit meme hellmouth here by being so helpful!
I think this is a newer feature? I remember links like that just showing up as links, but I could be wrong.
No I’ve been posting images and GIFs for years
I first read the title of this – with “the bottom 10 spots on the list” – as being the 10 players with the overall worst trade value. While I could see that turning in to a bummer of an article and/or being mean, it would be something I’d be interested in reading as an addendum to this series.
Cameron did it a few times. This year it’d definitely be Chris Davis at the bottom. 3.5 years of the worst player in baseball making over $20 mil per year
Chris Davis’s contract value is basically -$80M.
Miggie has $140M left.
So unless Miggie is worth ~$60M for the rest of his career (not very likely), his contract is worse.
Davis
Cabrera
Pujols
Hosmer
Wei Yin Chin
Cano
Cespedes
Cueto
Fowler
Heyward
It’s probably not that interesting. Guys who used to be good (and Eric Hosmer), got paid, got old/hurt.
I think you are correct.
Darvish (32, can opt out any year but likely signed thru 2023, owed 81 mil)
Posey (32, signed thru 2022, owed 51.8 mil)
Cain (33, signed thru 2022, owed 51 mil)
Votto (35, signed thru 2024, owed at least 107 mil)
Goldschmidt (31, signed thru 2024, owed 130 mil)
Price (33, signed thru 2023, owed 96 mil)
All those guys in the conversation as well. Personally I’d definitely take Fowler off (33, signed thru 2021, owed 29 mil) and probably take Heyward off (29, signed thru 2023, owed 86 mil). Fowler isn’t owed that much and last season looks more like an outlier than a norm. Heyward is an enigma but appears to be able to hit again and he’s young enough still that it isn’t out of the question that he can be a 3 win player for a few more years. Given his alarming erosion of power in this juiced ball era I’d put Votto and Darvish given the health concerns coupled with the ability to just opt out if he were to become good again on as replacements.
Giancarlo Stanton needs a mention, too.
Huge oversight on my part. 29, most likely signed thru 2027, owed at least 234 million
To be fair, we have a pretty good sense of what the bottom/top 4 slots would look like. It would probably be something like this: It would probably be Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, Chris Davis, and Jacoby Ellsbury.
The bottom half would be more interesting to argue about. Now that Ian Desmond has worked his way through part of his contract and is sort of hitting, how much is his contract underwater? Will Yu Darvish bounce back? What about Jason Heyward? What about Eric Hosmer? Wil Myers? Is Yoenis Cespedes done? What about Cueto? Wei-Yin Chen? Or how about guys who are still productive? Is Bryce Harper’s contract already underwater?
I think Ellsbury only (mercifully) has a year left on the deal so he probably wouldn’t be among the lowest trade values any longer.
Same with Cespedes. His contract was awful, but it ends after 2020 and it seems like insurance is picking up a big chunk of it.
Yeah, that’s right. For some reason I thought he still had three years left.
Team is getting Ellsburys money too via insurance.
So Jose Ramirez (#1 last year) wasn’t mentioned in the honorable mentions nor in this piece so that means he’s #40 or higher. That has to be one of the toughest placement decisions in this year’s series. Considering his contract and his previous 3 years of production, I would think a whole lot of teams would trade for him but how much would you give for him?
According to this, he’s back to his old ways (pulling the ball) over the last month/100PA. Worth a gander.
https://247sports.com/mlb/indians/Article/The-Good-Version-of-Jose-Ramirez-is-Back-133661471/
Speaking of prospects that broke my heart ten years ago, the table for Brandon Woodruff links to Brandon Wood.
Am I the only person who would rather have Luis Castillo than Woodruff or Soroka and their one more year of control?
Soroka vs. Castillo is especially interesting. They’re both ground-ball heavy pitchers who have low BABIPs (Castillo more than Soroka), but aside from that they get to their value very different ways. Castillo gets a lot of K’s but gives up a lot of walks and home runs. Soroka doesn’t K very much but suppresses home runs. Their xFIPs are very similar. So do you bank on Soroka’s HR rate regressing, or Castillo’s BABIP regressing?
A related issue is the fact that Castillo’s fielding-independent numbers are notably worse than either Soroka or Woodruff. My instinct was to put Castillo higher too, because it feels like he has more in the tank, but that would just catch him up to Soroka/Woodruff in FIP.
After watching Soroka fail to tag out a full size human being (Tatis, Jr.) coming straight at him, I have to doubt that he was ever a hockey goalie, in charge of stopping tiny pucks that move at incredible rates of speed. I bet he just assumed we’d all believe him if he said he played hockey because he’s from Canada. Once again, showing the intellectual savvy that has made him a young star.
Correa has gone from 8 WAR projections to 6 to 4 in the span of only 2 years. Dude is 24 yrs old with 17 Career WAR, including 2018 winch was basically lost. Lately, we have been spoiled with 20-22 year olds coming on the scene and fucking shit up; but we are also seeing players who take a few years to hit their stride (Gallo, Giolito, others…).
Correa may not be the 2nd ARod as many had stated earlier on ,but he has the rare potential to be a 6+ WAR guy still.
To be a 6+ WAR guy, he has to be on the field and he consistently finds ways to not do that.
Yeah, he’s definitely not ARod 2.0. He’s Tulo 2.0
Which would make him Nomar 3.0.
So you’re saying he’s Ripken 4.0?
That Ripken guy was always hurt!
Surprised Bogaerts hasn’t been mentioned. 5+ WAR 26 year old SS signed to a reasonable deal for his prime (26-32).
Bogaerts is the same age and probably as good as Machado/Harper and is making 1/3rd less in total commitment
I would think you’ll see him up higher on this list. This is 50-41. Better players on better deals will be in future installments.
There’s a very good reason Bogaerts hasn’t been mentioned. Yet.
If your only goal was maximizing value and I offered you Luis Robert for any of these players, would you say no?
2019 Anagram Value: #50 to #41
#50 Also Cistulli
#49 Moto Slant
#48 Its Adorable Demon
#47 Eeyore’s Crag
#46 She Crazy Nag
#45 Coral Rose Car
#44 HMS Crazee Rx
#43 Niue Rose Gauze
#42 Mookie’s Ark
#41 Oo! Brown Dandruff
My new daily challenge this week is to go straight to the anagrams and guess who each player is.
Interesting about the internal team numbers of gary sanchez, I wonder how they produce their figures, as all the public systems agree he has been below average this year. Here are the numbers for anyone that is interested:
fangraphs FRM: -5.2
BProspectus Framing Runs: -7.0
MLB Savant Runs Extra Strikes: -3.0
DRS rSZ: -4
Statcorner RAA: -1
Looking at guys like Jo Adell and Royce Lewis being specifically left off the Top 50, but the 50 includes the Brandon Woodruff. That would imply that if the Brewers approached the Angels offering Woodruff for Adell, it would be in the Angels’ best interest to accept this offer. However, if the Angels accepted such an offer, I suspect they would be laughed out of town. Are prospects being undervalued in this equation?
“ Soroka has the potential to still improve and turn into a durable, mid-rotation or better starter“
The guy with a sub 3.00 FIP has to
Improve to be a mid-rotation starter? I don’t really understand this one. Yes, his HR/9 is unsustainable but he’s pitched like an ace in a pretty healthy sample size. He doesn’t have the most tantalizing stuff but you can still be an ace with a 90-95 MPH fastball paired with elite command and movement. Oh yea, and he’s only 21… So I think you guys are selling him short although I am quite biased.