2020 Trade Value: #1 to #10

While a shortened season might make this year’s version of our Trade Value Series an unusual one, with the deadline looming, we are not about to break with tradition. For a more detailed introduction to this year’s exercise, as well as a look at those players who fell just short of the top 50, be sure to read the Introduction and Honorable Mentions piece, which can be found in the widget above along with the other installments in the Series.

For those who have been reading the Trade Value Series the last few seasons, the format should look familiar. For every player, you’ll see a table with the player’s projected five-year WAR from 2021-2025, courtesy of Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections. The table will also include the player’s guaranteed money, if any, the year through which the team has contractual control of the player, last year’s rank, and then projections, contract status, and age for each individual season through 2025, if the player is under contract or team control for those seasons. Last year’s rank includes a link to the relevant 2019 post. Thanks are due to Sean Dolinar for creating the tables in these posts. At the bottom of the page, there will be an updated grid showing all the players who have been ranked up to this point.

With that out of the way, let’s finish the rankings.

Five-Year WAR +20.0
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #21
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 26 +4.3 Pre-Arb
2022 27 +4.4 Arb1
2023 28 +3.9 Arb2
2024 29 +3.8 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

Since the beginning of last season, no pitcher has thrown more innings than Shane Bieber’s 249. Only four pitchers have a higher WAR than his 7.0 over than span: Gerrit Cole, Lance Lynn, Max Scherzer, and Jacob deGrom. Cole just landed a monster contract. Lynn and Scherzer are in their 30s and will be free agents at the end of next season; deGrom is also in his 30s and makes more than $30 million a year. Bieber is 25 years old, will make the league minimum next season, and won’t be a free agent until after 2024.

Bieber’s performance and projections put him in a higher tier than Walker Buehler (18th in these rankings), who has a similar number of years of control remaining, but at a higher cost due to Buehler’s status as a Super Two. Bieber’s projections are just a bit lower than Jack Flaherty’s (19th), with the Cleveland right-hander boasting slightly better performance since the start of last year; he separates himself from Flaherty with an extra year of team control at virtually no cost. Unless Bieber wins a Cy Young award, he seems likely to make between $15 million to $20 million total over the next three seasons, and only $30 million to $40 million through the end of the 2024 season, or roughly the yearly salaries of Cole, deGrom, and Scherzer. Pitchers are inherently risky and the threat of Tommy John surgery always looms, which is really all that pushed Bieber to the back of the top 10 instead of being closer to the middle. When you factor in his contract status, Bieber is the most valuable pitcher in baseball.

Five-Year WAR +29.7
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2023
Previous Rank #4
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 25 +6.2 Arb2
2022 26 +6.0 Arb3
2023 27 +6.1 Arb4
Arb

Over the next three seasons, the only players with higher three-year ZiPS projections than Cody Bellinger are Mike Trout and Juan Soto. Bellinger won the National League MVP award last season with an 7.8 WAR campaign. His huge season created huge expectations going forward, and also meant high salaries relative to most arbitration cases. Bellinger will earn $11.5 million pro-rated this season in his first of four arbitration years, $650,000 higher than the similarly situated Kris Bryant. Despite a somewhat disappointing 2018, Bryant received arbitration awards totaling $31.5 million over the next two seasons, and is in line for another $25 million next season. Three years and $60 million isn’t a lot to pay for an MVP candidate, but it is close to doubling what José Ramírez and Rafael Devers will receive over those same seasons.

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Even with some struggles to start 2020 due to an increased diet of breaking balls, Bellinger should more than make up for the difference in salary between the other players with three years of control through his play in the field. The rankings in the six-through-nine spot are all incredibly close, but Bellinger ends up lowest on the list due to his salary and the limited seasons of control remaining.

Five-Year WAR +25.9
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #12
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 24 +5.1 Arb1
2022 25 +5.0 Arb2
2023 26 +5.3 Arb3
2024 27 +5.3 Arb4
Arb

Since the beginning of last season, Gleyber Torres has the lowest WAR among the players who made the top 10. His career WAR is currently second-to-last among that group, and it might be last in another week or two. His exit velocities aren’t elite, and his defensive numbers haven’t been great. But Torres profiles well because he can handle an infield position, won’t turn 24 until December, and hits for power. In the last 50 years, the only players to play any of shortstop, third base, or second base who have hit more than Torres’ 62 homers in their age-21 and age-22 seasons are Miguel Cabrera and Alex Rodriguez. Only Cal Ripken Jr. and Devers are even within 10 homers of Torres. The Yankees’ young star gets the ball in the air with enough velocity to send it out of the park on a regular basis without striking out a ton or hitting a bunch of infield flies.

ZiPS loves Torres, projecting five-win seasons for the next half-decade. While the projections looks great, Gleyber has had a few minor injury hiccups in his career to he along with missing most of 2017 recovering from Tommy John surgery. There’s the possibility that Torres has to move off shortstop and the power is never as prodigious as the 38 homers he hit last year. It’s those questions that keep him from landing in the top five of these rankings. Torres has been good, could be great, and has four more years of team control with all those seasons coming in arbitration, but if there is a player I’m worried will fade out of the top 10 by next season based on performance, it’s him.

Five-Year WAR +17.8
Guaranteed Dollars $63.2 M
Team Control Through 2025
Previous Rank #18
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 26 +3.6 $6.8 M
2022 27 +3.8 $13.8 M
2023 28 +3.5 $17.8 M
2024 29 +3.4 $24.8 M
2025 30 +3.4 $25.0 M
Team Option

Over his last 658 plate appearances (through Tuesday), Yoán Moncada has put up a 139 wRC+ and 6.8 WAR. He broke out in a big way last season and is off to a good start again this season. Since the start of last season, that 6.8 WAR ranks 12th among position players, and on a WAR/600 basis, his 6.2 mark is eighth. There is some reason to be skeptical about the sustainability of those numbers given his .396 BABIP. That figure should be high given Moncada’s elite exit velocity, but it is surely going to come down some. That said, lowering his BABIP to his expected numbers from Statcast still makes Moncada about 30% better than league average as a batter. He’s got very good speed and adds to the offense on the basepaths, and while he hasn’t been playing third base for too long, he appears to have taken to the position fairly well.

The projections are slightly skeptical of Moncada’s future, seeing him as more good than great. But even if the BABIP drops, there’s the possibility of more in-game power in Moncada’s future because he makes such hard contact, and at 25 years old, he’s still making adjustments to improve his hitting. As for the contract, he’s owed $68 million over the next four seasons with an option for 2025 for an additional $25 million. While the $68 million guarantee is about $30 million more than most players heading into arbitration will receive (though it’s not far off from Bellinger), the two extra years of control separate Moncada from players like Matt Chapman, Devers, and Ramírez, providing an extra $20 million to $30 million in value above his contract for each of those years. Moncada will only be 29 years old when his current deal ends. He’ll be a great value if he only hits his fairly modest projections, and can be an incredible one if he keeps up last year’s performance over the next half-decade.

Five-Year WAR +27.0
Guaranteed Dollars $29.0 M
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank #8
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 24 +5.3 $3.0 M
2022 25 +5.5 $5.0 M
2023 26 +5.5 $7.0 M
2024 27 +5.6 $7.0 M
2025 28 +5.2 $7.0 M

At this point on the list, you’re going to notice a tendency on my part to emphasize the negatives to justify moving one player below another, but remember, these are all very good players on contracts that create considerable trade value.

Thus far, Ozzie Albies has separated himself more with his contract than his play. Albies put up a very good 4.6 WAR season in 2019 following a solid 3.8 WAR campaign the year prior. He did need more than 700 PA to reach that total, and on a WAR/600 basis, his 4.4 is the second-lowest of any player in my top 10. His 117 wRC+ last year was also the lowest of any position player in the top 10, and that followed an average year at the plate. He doesn’t play a premium position, and his defense has been more good than great. He doesn’t hit the ball tremendously hard, likely won’t ever have huge power numbers, and his lefty swing against righties still leaves something to be desired. But he’s also just 23 years old and put up a 4.6-win season despite those issues. The projections love him, and some I spoke with believed he still has another step forward in him.

Then there’s the contract. Albies is guaranteed just $33 million over the next five seasons, and if both of Atlanta’s options are exercised, the team will have seven total years of control after this one for only $43 million. It’s a terrible contract for Albies, and it has been since the day he signed it. It’s also a deal that’s incredibly beneficial to the Braves, and a bargain if Albies is only ever an average hitter and decent defender and baserunner. If he takes a significant step forward in the next two seasons at 24 and 25 years old? There’s still enough team control that he could end up at the top of these rankings.

Five-Year WAR +27.7
Guaranteed Dollars $79.0 M
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #5
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 27 +6.2 $11.0 M
2022 28 +6.0 $11.0 M
2023 29 +5.7 $28.5 M
2024 30 +5.2 $28.5 M

While the sixth and fifth spots are very close in the ordinal rankings, there’s a pretty large gap between the group of players at six-through-nine, and another gap between Alex Bregman and the top four players. Over the next four years, Bregman will earn a backloaded $79 million with only $22 million paid through 2022. In terms of production and projections over the next three years, Bregman is roughly identical to Cody Bellinger. Where the players and their value differs is that Bregman has an additional year of control for an extra $20 million.

Bregman has averaged eight wins per season over the last two years and is off to another solid start this season, though an Injured List stint for a strained right hamstring will put a damper on things. He’s a solid fielder at third base and has handled shortstop over the last few years. Since the beginning of the 2018 season, his 161 wRC+ trails that of only Mike Trout and Christian Yelich among qualified batters, while his 16.6 WAR lags behind that of only Trout and Mookie Betts. He has an argument for being the best player in baseball not named Mike Trout, and he’s under contract for four years beyond this at a below-market rate. He might not be as young as a few of the other players around him on this list, but he is probably better right now.

Five-Year WAR +31.0
Guaranteed Dollars $355.4 M
Team Control Through 2030
Previous Rank #3
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 29 +7.2 $35.5 M
2022 30 +7.0 $35.5 M
2023 31 +6.4 $35.5 M
2024 32 +5.6 $35.5 M
2025 33 +4.8 $35.5 M

I really wrestled with Mike Trout’s spot on this list, moving him between second and fourth in its various iterations. Trout is obviously the best player in baseball, but he’s also owed around $350 million over the next 10 seasons. While that contract is still a very good deal for the Angels and provides them incredible value, it is difficult to gauge Trout’s market. Only a handful of teams would be willing to take on the money owed to him and give up the tremendous talent it would take to land him. The question isn’t whether a team would give up a player ahead of Trout on this list for the center fielder; it’s whether motivated, wealthy teams would create a better market for one of the best players in baseball history compared to the market that would be created by a greater number of teams all bidding on one of the players ranked just ahead of him.

From a strict value perspective, there’s an argument that Trout’s contract is worth more than the next couple of players on this list. Even though he’ll be 29 to begin next season, something close to an eight-win projection keeps Trout as the best player in the game into his early-30s with a normal decline. Ultimately, based on feedback from those in front offices and the presence of a no-trade clause for Trout, I moved him down to fourth. While Giancarlo Stanton is not an equivalent player, when the Marlins attempted to trade him, they had to accept a lesser offer from the Yankees when Stanton refused to go to either the Giants or Cardinals. While the trade market for Trout would be robust, the value in that trade likely falls just behind the three players above him on this list.

Five-Year WAR +32.6
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #6
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 22 +6.5 Arb1
2022 23 +6.6 Arb2
2023 24 +6.6 Arb3
2024 25 +6.6 Arb4
Arb

I received some feedback from teams that Juan Soto should be the second-ranked player on this list. His hitting projections are off the charts high. The five-year ZiPS say he’ll surpass Trout in 2023, and provide more WAR over the next five years. I think I’d still take Trout in that bet, but Soto is 21 years old, has two full seasons’ worth of playing time already under his belt, and has a career 149 wRC+. He walks nearly as much as he strikes out, he hits the ball hard when he makes contact, and he has a ton of power. In the last 100 years, the only player with at least 1,000 plate appearances through their age-20 season with a wRC+ higher than the 143 Soto ended last season with was Mel Ott’s 144 just before the Great Depression. If we expand the list to include a player’s age-21 season, the age-season Soto is currently playing, the only players ahead of him are Trout (164), Jimmie Foxx (160), and Ted Williams (157).

Soto isn’t a perfect player. He’s not a strong baserunner, and his defense is closer to average, or even below-average, in a corner outfield spot. It’s possible his defense and running could get worse if his body gets bigger, but that is probably a longer-term issue and not a concern over the next four years of team control as Soto will currently head to free agency after his age-25 season. Soto will be arbitration-eligible at the end of the season, so the four years of team control could cost Washington $50 million or more. For a player projected by ZiPS to be better than Trout in a few years, that cost is a pittance.

Five-Year WAR +26.0
Guaranteed Dollars
Team Control Through 2024
Previous Rank #2
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 22 +4.4 Pre-Arb
2022 23 +5.0 Arb1
2023 24 +5.5 Arb2
2024 25 +5.5 Arb3
Pre-Arb
Arb

The last week or so has made it a lot easier to justify Fernando Tatis Jr.’s spot on this list. At first glance, the projections don’t seem to justify inclusion. But those projections are based in part on Tatis’ injury-shortened 2019 campaign, during which he played just 84 games and logged 372 plate appearances. As Dan Szymborski recently noted, assuming a fully healthy future, the five-year projection would have been over 33 wins, the highest in the sport. Through almost 500 plate appearances, Tatis has put up a 161 wRC+ and 5.7 WAR. On a rate basis, that’s seven wins per 600 plate appearances, which is third in the majors since the start of last season, behind only Trout and Yelich.

Some I spoke with had concerns about how Tatis’ numbers last season outpaced his expected Statcast stats by a pretty significant margin; a .410 BABIP is not sustainable. There are also concerns about Tatis’ defense at shortstop given all of his throwing errors. Neither of those concerns have asserted themselves this season, though we are dealing with fewer than 30 games. At the moment, the 21 years old is projected to lead the majors in WAR this season. While everything seems to get some sort of asterisk in 2020, the last player to lead the majors in WAR at 21 was Trout. Tatis will still earn a minimum salary next season before three arbitration-eligible seasons. If Tatis and Soto were equal, their respective salaries would serve as a tiebreaker. Soto is the surer thing given his bat — his xwOBA since the start of 2019 is second in baseball at .425, while Tatis’ is .370 and ranks 40th — but Tatis has the higher ceiling given his baserunning and ability to play shortstop. Which player you prefer probably depends on your appetite for risk. Tatis’ higher ceiling (and slightly higher risk profile) seems likely to extract a little bit more on the trade market, even if many teams might choose Soto’s sure bat.

Five-Year WAR +30.3
Guaranteed Dollars $98.0 M
Team Control Through 2027
Previous Rank #1
Year Age Projected WAR Contract Status
2021 23 +5.9 $5.0 M
2022 24 +6.3 $15.0 M
2023 25 +6.1 $17.0 M
2024 26 +6.1 $17.0 M
2025 27 +5.9 $17.0 M

One thing is no longer true since Ronald Acuña Jr. occupied this spot in the rankings a year ago: With the emergence of Tatis and Soto, he’s no longer “the consensus best young player in the game by just about every measure.” Acuña’s five-year WAR projection declined slightly from 33.2 a year ago to 30.3, allowing the two players that preceded him on this list to stake their claims to being among the game’s best young stars.

That said, Acuña’s projection is still third in baseball behind Trout and Soto’s, and he has done nothing to make us think he won’t be a star-level player for the next half-decade or longer. Unlike Trout, there’s no massive contract. Unlike Soto and Tatis, the team control extends far beyond the 2024 season. Over the next four seasons, Acuña will make $54 million, roughly what Soto might earn in arbitration. Then the Braves have him under team control for two more seasons at $17 million per year. Those will be Acuña’s age-27 and age-28 campaigns. Then, the Braves have two options on Acuña for $17 million each in his age-29 and age-30 seasons. In total, the Braves have his next eight seasons for a total of $122 million and will not pay for a single year definitely past his prime. Even if you believe Tatis and Soto have surpassed Acuña on the field, four extra seasons in Acuña’s prime for half of the yearly cost for those players’ non-prime years in free agency is such an incredible value as to make this choice an easy decision.

2020 Trade Value, 1-50
Rk Pv Player Age 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
1 1 Ronald Acuña Jr. 22 +5.9
$5.0 M
+6.3
$15.0 M
+6.1
$17.0 M
+6.1
$17.0 M
+5.9
$17.0 M
2 2 Fernando Tatis Jr. 21 +4.4
Pre-Arb
+5.0
Arb1
+5.5
Arb2
+5.5
Arb3
3 6 Juan Soto 21 +6.5
Arb1
+6.6
Arb2
+6.6
Arb3
+6.6
Arb4
4 3 Mike Trout 28 +7.2
$35.5 M
+7.0
$35.5 M
+6.4
$35.5 M
+5.6
$35.5 M
+4.8
$35.5 M
5 5 Alex Bregman 26 +6.2
$11.0 M
+6.0
$11.0 M
+5.7
$28.5 M
+5.2
$28.5 M
6 8 Ozzie Albies 23 +5.3
$3.0 M
+5.5
$5.0 M
+5.5
$7.0 M
+5.6
$7.0 M
+5.2
$7.0 M
7 18 Yoán Moncada 25 +3.6
$6.8 M
+3.8
$13.8 M
+3.5
$17.8 M
+3.4
$24.8 M
+3.4
$25.0 M
8 12 Gleyber Torres 23 +5.1
Arb1
+5.0
Arb2
+5.3
Arb3
+5.3
Arb4
9 4 Cody Bellinger 24 +6.2
Arb2
+6.0
Arb3
+6.1
Arb4
10 21 Shane Bieber 25 +4.3
Pre-Arb
+4.4
Arb1
+3.9
Arb2
+3.8
Arb3
11 23 Wander Franco 19 +2.5
Pre-Arb
+3.1
Pre-Arb
+3.7
Pre-Arb
+4.4
Arb1
+4.5
Arb2
12 17 Ketel Marte 26 +4.0
$6.0 M
+3.9
$8.0 M
+3.7
$10.0 M
+3.5
$12.0 M
13 9 Matt Chapman 27 +5.2
Arb1
+4.9
Arb2
+4.8
Arb3
14 Luis Robert 22 +3.1
$3.5 M
+3.3
$6.0 M
+3.3
$9.5 M
+3.2
$12.5 M
+3.1
$15.0 M
15 7 Christian Yelich 28 +5.1
$14.0 M
+4.9
$26.0 M
+4.5
$26.0 M
+3.9
$26.0 M
+3.3
$26.0 M
16 14 Rafael Devers 23 +4.2
Arb1
+4.4
Arb2
+4.4
Arb3
17 33 José Ramírez 27 +5.0
$9.0 M
+4.7
$11.0 M
+4.3
$13.0 M
18 11 Walker Buehler 25 +3.9
Arb1
+3.8
Arb2
+3.3
Arb3
+3.3
Arb4
19 HM Jack Flaherty 24 +4.7
Arb1
+4.6
Arb2
+4.2
Arb3
20 32 Pete Alonso 25 +4.2
Pre-Arb
+4.2
Arb1
+4.2
Arb2
+4.1
Arb3
21 30 Chris Paddack 24 +2.8
Pre-Arb
+2.8
Arb1
+2.6
Arb2
+2.6
Arb3
22 22 Germán Márquez 25 +3.7
$7.5 M
+3.8
$11.0 M
+3.4
$15.0 M
+3.4
$16.0 M
23 HM Bo Bichette 22 +4.4
Pre-Arb
+4.8
Pre-Arb
+4.8
Arb1
+5.0
Arb2
+5.0
Arb3
24 10 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. 21 +3.8
Pre-Arb
+4.5
Arb1
+4.7
Arb2
+4.8
Arb3
+4.8
Arb4
25 31 Aaron Nola 27 +3.8
$11.8 M
+3.7
$15.0 M
+3.3
$16.0 M
26 HM Gavin Lux 22 +4.0
Pre-Arb
+4.4
Pre-Arb
+4.6
Pre-Arb
+4.8
Arb1
+4.7
Arb2
27 15 Aaron Judge 28 +4.6
Arb2
+4.6
Arb3
28 41 Brandon Woodruff 27 +2.4
Arb1
+2.3
Arb2
+2.1
Arb3
+1.9
Arb4
29 29 Paul DeJong 26 +3.5
$4.0 M
+3.3
$6.0 M
+3.1
$9.0 M
+3.0
$12.5 M
+2.6
$15.0 M
30 20 Blake Snell 27 +3.0
$10.5 M
+2.9
$12.5 M
+2.6
$16.0 M
31 49 Matt Olson 26 +3.9
Arb1
+3.8
Arb2
+3.8
Arb3
32 50 Luis Castillo 27 +3.3
Arb1
+3.3
Arb2
+2.9
Arb3
33 HM Lucas Giolito 25 +4.3
Arb1
+4.1
Arb2
+3.8
Arb3
34 HM Yordan Alvarez 23 +3.9
Pre-Arb
+4.0
Pre-Arb
+3.9
Arb1
+3.9
Arb2
+3.9
Arb3
35 HM Max Muncy 29 +3.7
$9.0 M
+3.2
$13.0 M
+2.6
$13.0 M
36 Ramón Laureano 25 +3.0
Pre-Arb
+2.9
Arb1
+2.8
Arb2
+2.7
Arb3
37 HM Austin Meadows 25 +3.3
Pre-Arb
+3.1
Arb1
+2.8
Arb2
+2.8
Arb3
38 38 Jorge Polanco 26 +3.0
$4.3 M
+2.9
$5.5 M
+2.7
$7.5 M
+2.7
$10.5 M
+2.2
$12.0 M
39 40 Max Kepler 27 +3.0
$6.5 M
+2.9
$6.8 M
+2.8
$8.5 M
+2.3
$10.0 M
40 39 Jeff McNeil 28 +3.9
Pre-Arb
+3.7
Arb1
+3.5
Arb2
+2.9
Arb3
41 HM Adley Rutschman 22 +1.6
Pre-Arb
+2.0
Pre-Arb
+2.2
Pre-Arb
+2.3
Arb1
+2.5
Arb2
42 28 Joey Gallo 26 +2.4
Arb2
+2.4
Arb3
43 16 Shohei Ohtani 25 +2.3
Arb1
+2.2
Arb2
+2.1
Arb3
44 HM Nate Pearson 23 +1.8
Pre-Arb
+1.8
Pre-Arb
+1.7
Arb1
+1.6
Arb2
+1.6
Arb3
45 Jesús Luzardo 22 +1.7
Pre-Arb
+1.9
Pre-Arb
+1.6
Arb1
+1.6
Arb2
+1.5
Arb3
46 HM Keston Hiura 23 +3.0
Pre-Arb
+3.1
Pre-Arb
+3.2
Arb1
+3.2
Arb2
+2.8
Arb3
47 HM Mookie Betts 27 +6.2
$22.9 M
+5.9
$22.9 M
+5.7
$25.4 M
+5.1
$30.4 M
+4.4
$30.4 M
48 24 Jacob deGrom 32 +4.6
$37.5 M
+4.1
$37.5 M
+3.8
$34.5 M
+3.5
$32.5 M
49 19 Xander Bogaerts 27 +4.1
$20.0 M
+3.9
$20.0 M
+3.7
$20.0 M
+3.2
$20.0 M
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Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago

Love it; wrestling with where to place Trout is impossible. There’s no one that the Angels (or any smart team) would trade Trout for SU, but some teams play the cheap card so well you have to factor in his well below market contract as a detriment for some teams because they just refuse to spend money.

After all, if anything there’s only been 1 or 2 players in the games history like Trout. Trying to find and replace him with a young or exciting player is like playing the powerball.

padres458
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

The Angels don’t need trout. The Angels have proven having the best player in game on your team doesnt mean anything.

The Duke
5 years ago
Reply to  padres458

Of course they never would, but I wonder if they wouldn’t be better with Acuna/Albies be Trout. Would Atlanta make that deal ? I doubt it actually

OtterMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I mean are the Angels trading Trout for Acuna and Albies? But I feel like the Braves might do that deal (probably not, but they’re more likely to say yes?) I honestly don’t know…

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

The Angels would do that deal in a heartbeat. That’s trading Trout for an Acuna at +/-90% of his current production, but 6 years younger and at a fraction of the salary cost, knowing that the five year forward total outcomes between Acuna and Trout probably give the edge to Acuna as Trout moves into his 30’s…

…And also adding perhaps the best second baseman in the game on the most team-friendly contract in modern baseball history…

…AND having another $15M/year cash to spend if you keep payroll constant… um, yes, the Angels would do that deal.

FrodoBeck
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I will never cease to be amazed at the Albies contract.

It’s ludicrous.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I get what you’re saying and I’d probably do that trade, but in what world is Ronald Acuna 90% of Mike Trout’s production? I know the projections have Trout being a 4.5 fWAR player at 33, but if I could bet today I’d be all over that over on that. Maybe Trout hits an aging wall, but man he hasn’t stopped getting better at the plate yet. It’s hard to envision him doing anything but excelling well into his thirties like the other elite elite he is in company with.

Acuna was awesome last year and worth 5.6 fWAR. Mike Trout played 22 fewer games, and still was 53% better than Acuna per fWAR. Obviously Acuna was only in his second year; in Mike Trouts second year, he was 80.3% better than Ronald Acuna was last year.

Albies is the difference here and what pushes it over, but while Acuna is amazing I wouldn’t be betting my life that he’s even 60% as good as Mike Trout over the next 6 years.

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

If I go with Fangraphs projected numbers, Acuna’s current projection is 80% of Trout’s. Over the next five years, it’s 97% of Trout’s. I’d submit that 60% is too low even if 90 or 97% is too high… a probibalistic range of outcomes would probably put it at 75-85%… but that’s nitpicking. I picked “90%” as a number to imply a concept or direction, not something that I studied or used to make a prediction.

Either way, Acuna being 6 years younger and $20M/year cheaper than Trout for the next five years would make the deal something that the Angels would have to consider straight-up. I’d bet that it’s the Braves who balk on that deal rather than the Angels.

Fortunately, no one is asking you to bet your life. But from a probabilistic, odds-making perspective, on a health-neutral basis, the odds that Acuna is “even 60% as good as Mike Trout over the next 6 years” are extremely high. Like, extremely high. Take your best-case projection for Trout WAR. If he *averaged* 7 WAR per season over those six years, age 29-34, I think that would be a record for that age. So let’s suggest that is a potential ceiling. 42 WAR over the next six years. Acuna at 60% of that is 25 wins. Health neutral, you don’t think Acuna is a 4.25-win-per-year player from age 22-27?

(Aside – would love to see this updated!
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-do-star-hitters-age/)

Whether or not Mike Trout has stopped getting better at the plate is not the question. He has the most WAR ever through age 27… but no one sustains their age 24-25 WAR into age 34. Batters begin to slow down; muscle reflexes change. It’s overblown to suggest that hitters’ value collapses when they turn 30… but they do come down a bit.

Shoot, I remember thinking that Albert Pujols could do it forever… and then it ended quickly. Pujols ain’t Trout, to be sure, but he averaged easy 8-win seasons per year for ten years through age 30… and then fell by >70% through age 35 or so before falling off the table completely.

It’s no slight to Mike Trout to acknowledge, ruefully, that it is highly likely that he will decline after the next couple of seasons. He may “only” decline to a 5-6 win player for a couple years. But the odds of him defying the aging curve completely are infinitely small, no matter how special he is and how amazingly he has performed.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Remember, the system being used to project Trout is the same system being used to project every player. It takes into account the mean outcome of all players. Mike Trout is not all players, and has already proven those projections wrong repeatedly. The projections aren’t wrong – they shouldn’t be changed just for Mike – but they shouldn’t be used as a tool to speak of Mike Trout’s future with any confidence IMO. History tells us that guys of his elite talent tend to age with more grace; obviously that isn’t the case for everyone, but the math would agree.

Also, plenty of great player sustain it. Willie Mays – who is the closest comp to Trout for me – had 3 of his 4 most valuable seasons after his 30th birthday. 5 of Ruth’s 9 most valuable seasons were after his 30th birthday.

Models that are used to project and predict the success of the masses are likely going to miss on the edges. You could end up being 100% correct – it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong – but I’d be surprised to see Acuna come closer than I stated to Trout in terms of value over the next 5 years.

Hank G.Member since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Take your best-case projection for Trout WAR. If he *averaged* 7 WAR per season over those six years, age 29-34, I think that would be a record for that age.

Willie Mays averaged 10.3 WAR from 29-34.

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  Hank G.

Whoa. You’re correct; he did and I missed that. Apologies. For some, reason, I thought Stan Musial was the leader and I believe he had 43 WAR during that age-span. But you are correct.

rosen380
5 years ago
Reply to  Hank G.
rda7529Member since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I’d be willing to bet Acuna is 60% as good as Trout over the next 6 years. How much?

Dmjn53
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

I think we forget sometimes how much better Mike Trout is than everyone else

OtterMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I think you’re either underrating Trout or overrating Acuna. And one 8 win player is worth more than two players totally 8 wins. Maybe Trout ages very poorly (unlikely!) but I don’t think this is as much of a no brainer as you make it out to be. (Also Albies has been bad this year (SSS etc)… not sure where we’re getting best second baseman in the game even accounting for last year).

Joe Joe
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

On a 8-WAR player being worth more than 2 4-WAR players, please look at Trout’s playoff numbers. The Angels having their WAR concentrated in a few players has not given them extra wins.

OtterMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

That’s an indictment on the Angels FO…

Joe Joe
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

It is, but it also shows that teams with WAR concentrated in a few players win about as much as a team with a similar amount of WAR spread out. Teams can’t just snap their fingers and fill in holes around an 8-WAR player with 1-2 WAR players. Unless a team has about 62 WAR on a roster, having 2 4-WAR players is for all intents and purposes as valuable as an 8-WAR player.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe Joe

Yes, but if you have a player with 10 fWAR, you’re already 20-25% to where you need to be to not be bad at baseball. Having that much more in one position is a monstrous advantage; it’s not Trout’s fault his FO didn’t take advantage.

Joe Joe
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Having 10 fWAR spread out between 2 players is as much of an advantage. The Angels have 269 fWAR from 2012-2019, and played like a team with 267 fWAR. If having fWAR concentrated was worth more, it should be easily apparent with the Angels since Trout is by far the most concentrated source of fWAR over that period. It isn’t. fWAR is a finite resource such that teams don’t have issues finding spots for 2 fWAR player. fWAR is very linear as long as we stay away from 0 fWAR (measurement error based on replacement level not being accurate, though this gets washed away in aggregate usually).

rda7529Member since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

And when that player gets hurt?

Dean
5 years ago

It would be more appropriate to say that Soto isn’t particularly fast rather than “He’s not a strong baserunner.”

Soto is 18-22 lifetime swiping bases.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Dean

via FG own base running metric, he’s a below average base runner. I would imagine that’s what Craig is going off of; in addition to other things I’m sure.

Bjd1207
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Lol yea he likes to try and stretch doubles, sometimes getting caught between 2nd and 3rd. There’s some video in particular I’m thinking of….hmmmm…..

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Dean

He’s also a defensive novice, relatively speaking. Simply learning to play his position better might provide a bit of a defensive uptick before aging starts taking it down again.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Young players getting better defensively as they age is nearly unheard of, fwiw. Famliiarity vs athleticism is a common tradeoff that almost always favors youth.

Expecting Soto to improve defensively over time is uh, misguided.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I love Soto, I think he is going to be the best hitter in the game at some point. I do think his peak is going to be beautiful and it is going to be soon, but I could see someone with his body type aging younger as well.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

You are correct. There are dozens of big bodied sluggers who come up and play LF/1B to try to hide their gloves for a few years. In their second or third spring you always hear about how they have been working on their defense and have gotten better – like the veteran who is coming off a couple down years and is in The Best Shape of his Life!! ™. Very few of them actually do improve defensively and pretty much all of them in the AL end up at DH within a year or two of that story being written.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I disagree, there are lots of examples of players who have improved their defense and data has enabled teams to optimize players on the defensive side of the ball in addition to any improvements they are able to make on their own to things like arm strength and accuracy, reading the ball, reading angles, risk-taking, etc.

Do those optimization gains get lost over time as a player ages? Sure. Dexter Fowler is a good example of this as the Cubs changed his positioning when he came over at age 29 to start deeper and it improved his fielding numbers. He eventually lost those gains due to both a loss of athleticism and I believe an article mentioned his positioning crept back up.

Other improve as they age examples include Semien, Bogaerts, Moncada, and the list goes on.

It really all depends on what Soto needs to get better at. There’s plenty of prime athleticism years left for Soto to improve / optimize his defense before age causes him to lose those gains. The guy is only 21.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I wouldn’t say “nearly unheard of.” There are some notable exceptions like Paul DeJong.

fanofthemanMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

But Paul DeJong wasn’t a shortstop basically until he hit the big leagues. What position was Soto playing previously? (Real question, I don’t know much about Soto)

Sean HuffMember since 2020
5 years ago

Tatis was #2 last year, not 39th.

a_teenage_smog
5 years ago
Reply to  Craig Edwards

(still shows 39th on your ‘2020 Trade Value, 1-50’ chart)

Bartolo Cologne
5 years ago

Your coding is showing in your 2nd Bregman paragraph. Thanks for the great piece! 🙂

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

I’m frankly shocked at how much shine Mancada has recovered. Obviously, FG projections would place him much lower on this list, but I assume Craig did his homework and baseball insiders are indeed super high on him. I don’t really get it.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I think Moncada has proven a few things to the industry that have significantly raised his floor, while also answering some questions about what his ceiling is now:
-He can be a plus defender at third and is a plus base runner
-He can succeed and make adjustments against ML pitching

Last year he cut his K% ~5pp and this year (SSS warning) he’s kept those gains while raising his BB% ~5pp. And even with his EV down this year he’s sporting a 126 wRC+. If he can tap back into that elite EV from the prior couple of years it’s not hard to see him matching or exceeding his offensive output from last year.

The biggest issue for Moncada so far this year appears to be that pitchers are simply avoiding the zone against him (which explains some of the BB% gains). The number of pitches he has seen in the zone has dropped ~6pp and while he is making more contact than ever both in the zone and out of the zone, his O-swing% has essentially held steady leading to more swings on pitches out of the zone, and as a result, worse contact.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

he also had no spring training as he was out with COVID and only returned to the team two days before the season started. He hasn’t been 100% physically all year.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

You don’t get why a 25 year old who is coming off a 6.4WAR/600 and is locked up for two additional years past his control is received well throughout the league; a guy the industry mostly agreed was the top prospect in baseball 2-3 years back?

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Well received? Yes, easy to see. Top 10? I mean, look at the projections. His are much lower than any other top 10 guy. I think the top prospect in baseball a few years ago is doing a lot of work here, along of course with his excellent 2019 numbers.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

The contract is pretty good, he appears to be a far better fit at third base, and he adds a lot of value on the bases. It’s weird because normally guys with these power-speed combinations put up more home runs or flashy up-the-middle plays, but a lot of his long-term value is going to come from stuff that’s doesn’t seem so flashy.

I suspect those walks he’s showing now aren’t going to hold, but keeping his K’s under 30% is a big plus and very well might stick. If so, then you’re looking at a 25-home-run guy who varies between good and great depending on his BABIP.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

You have been the most anti-Moncada poster on this website. Why would he not sustain the walk rate when last year was the outlier, not this year, when looking at his career in professional baseball.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Rational Fan

Well, because last year was also the year when he cut the K-rate. The idea that he would keep the K-rate down by move the walk rate up would require a lot of adjustment.

That said, someone pointed to the fact that he’s been getting a lot fewer pitches in the zone, so it’s possible that it is sustainable with the K-rate, at the expense of contact quality. I hadn’t considered that but it seems totally possible, especially given that his EV seems really down this year.

That said, all of these various iterations of Moncada are a good player, the question is more about the variation than the mean from year to year.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As I noted above, Moncada had no warm-up to the season what-so-ever and was coming off a COVID diagnosis; he returned to the team two days before the season started.

The fact that he’s found a way to succeed without being – what looks like – 100% physically all year is just a testament to how far he’s come. He’s been able to make adjustments and succeed in a lot of ways.

MikeSMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t think his true BB rate is settled in yet because he and pitchers are still adjusting. He was very passive as a rookie and (I think) set a record for called out on strikes in a year. So last year he got more aggressive early in the count and the pitchers were throwing him strikes, thinking he’d be passive. He got lots of pitches in the zone that he swung at and his K and BB rates went down. His swinging strike rate actually went up, but his k% dropped a lot. This year (standard SSS/2020 warning) pitchers have adjusted by throwing him a lot fewer pitches in the zone. I don’t think they are really trying to get him to chase, they are just a little afraid of him based on last year and they know that if they throw him a pitch in the zone he can hit it hard. His BB rate is up because he is taking a lot of those pitches, but he has maintained enough aggressiveness to avoid all the called strikes. Overall, he seems to be developing as a hitter about as well as you could ask.

At this point, his 12.0%/27.8% BB/K rates are pretty similar to what he was doing in AA and AAA. His pitch recognition skills never will make Frank Thomas jealous, but he has never really been a free swinger. Each year he has made it harder on pitchers and has gotten himself out less. I don’t think it is unreasonable to think he can get his EV and Hard% back to the elite levels they were the last 2 years and if he can do that and maintain his current BB and K numbers, then he is a perennial 6 win player, especially with his defensive and base running value.

TheGrandslamwichMember since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I think it’s largely a part of him being a young guy adjusting to a new culture. The talent was always there. The Babip will obviously decline but he is still an excellent player. I think front offices would recognize that.

40/40club
5 years ago

@CraigEdwards Tatis was ranked #2 on the trade value last year, not 39 (39 was in 2018).

Good list overall (I personally prefer Soto to Tatis, Torres to Moncada, and thought a couple of pitchers were ranked too high vs position players, but that’s just based on my risk appetite, and all decision are defensible).

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  40/40club

Call me crazy, but I don’t understand the Torres love. He’s not a good defender, not a good base runner, and his exit velo numbers don’t indicate some crazy untapped potential with the bat (not saying there aren’t improvements he can make to get better but the ceiling feels somewhat limited here).

He did succeed in the MLB at the ages of 21 and 22 which is really hard to do but I could care less how many homers he has hit as it’s overall offensive output that matters not HR totals and his overall contributions with the bat in terms of wRC+ were hardly different (122 versus 125) between 2018 and 2019.

Enough incremental improvements gets you a 5 WAR player – he doesn’t have elite EV numbers and could stand to swing less to maximize the power he does have – but he’d need to become a plus defender to really raise his ceiling. I’d note as well that Moncada already has a 5.7 WAR season under his belt and I’d argue Moncada’s floor and ceiling are both higher than Torres’ so he’s probably the risk averse choice as well.

“…if there is a player I’m worried will fade out of the top 10 by next season based on performance, it’s him.”

It’s unfortunate because more young stars is better for baseball especially on the Yankees but I think we’re seeing this play out.

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

I agree with you. Yankee stadium allows people without elite ev to hit a fair amount of home runs however. I hate to repeat something that has been said over and over, but he hit 13 home runs against one opponent. Now those home runs still count, but assuming I am doing the math correctly he hit .261/.326/.420 vs the rest of the MLB. Not counting pitchers the average MLB line last year was .257/.328/.444. So if you got rid of the Orioles he was a below average hitter in the MLB last year, and he got to call Yankee stadium home. In my experience usually when there is a statistical outlier such as this, it is best to proceed with caution.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  40/40club

I thought the ranking on Tatis last year was pretty aggressive, and thought he should have been a few spots lower. This year has obviously made that idea look a bit silly. He’s a star.

Sleepy
5 years ago

“In the last 50 years, the only players to play any of shortstop, third base, or second base who have hit more than Torres’ 62 homers in their age-21 and age-22 seasons are Miguel Cabrera and Alex Rodriguez. Only Cal Ripken Jr. and Devers are even within 10 homers of Torres.”

And Cal was doing this in the early 1980s! I sometimes forget how weird it was to see a 6’4″ shortstop launching 25+ bombs a season on the reg back then.

Lanidrac
5 years ago
Reply to  Sleepy

Albert Pujols played a bunch of 3B in his age 21-22 seasons and hit 71 home runs. It was even his most played position (when separating LF from RF) that first year.

rosen380
5 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

And Bob Horner played 3B (~80% of his defensive innings those years)… and he had 68 HR.

But whether it is plus two guys or plus four, I’m always cautious with the “these small number of players all met these threshold(s)” lists where it is implied that the players are similar overall and/or better than everyone else.

When the 300/300 club is brought up, I certainly wouldn’t use that to imply that Reggie Sanders and Steve Finley are Willie Mays and Barry Bonds’ equals. Let alone any superiority over players not in the club.


Using the Fangraphs leaderboards and only “qualifying” a player at a position when Fangraphs does, Miguel Cabrera isn’t on this list anyways. here are the top 10

HR PLAYER
71 Albert Pujols
68 Bob Horner
65 Alex Rodriguez
62 Gleyber Torres
55 Cal Ripken
53 Rafael Devers
49 Roughned Odor
48 Ozzie Albies
47 Manny Machado
44 Ryan Zimmerman
44 Carlos Correa

FrodoBeck
5 years ago

I still find it nearly impossible to believe that Soto is only 21 years old.

It’s mind-boggling. Everything about his game just screams old man (aside from his hilarious crotch grabbing and shuffling).

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  FrodoBeck

I have long felt that age isn’t as important as people make it out to be. Yelich for example looked like a teenager, a breakout seemed obvious. Guys came into the MLB looking like old men already Soto, Pujols etc might not age as well.

MichaelMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  carter

yeah if soto had an identical career to pujols that would be an extreme disappointment

carterMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Michael

Yea because that is exactly what I said.

HamelinROY
5 years ago

“The 2020 Trade Value Series concludes”

Wait are we not going to do an anti-trade value?

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  HamelinROY

Sounds like a job for Szymborski.

kid
5 years ago

Moncada seemed to “put it all together” last year with a .315/.367/.548 (141 wRC+) line that, despite being fueled by a .406 BABIP, was basically supported by Statcast (.285 xBA .523 xslg, .367 xWOBA). He also hit the snot out of the ball in ’19; his 93.1 average EV was 7th highest among qualified hitters.

Through his first 108 PA of 2020, his average EV is down to *86.1*, which is down in the slappy, reserve outfielder range… really bad for a hitter of his pedigree and skill. Needless to say, his running 2020 Statcast expected stats are relatively underwhelming, too ( .234 xBA, .457 xSLG). That said, this could be a SSS situation where his 25% IFFB rate is driving down the aggregate EV, or maybe some lingering injury?

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  kid

Pitchers are throwing him fewer pitches in the zone (Zone% down ~66pp) this year but his O-swing% remains unchanged so part of the issue is that he is swinging at a higher percentage of pitches that he can do less damage on (his O-contact% is poor, while his Z-Contact% is actually pretty good). It’s has helped elevate his BB% though.

Probably not the only issue, like you said the IFFB% isn’t helping and could be related to the poor contact on the additional pitches out of the zone he’s swinging at. Would hate for it to be something physical and prefer to think it’s just SSS.

steveo
5 years ago

How did the Braves get Acuna and especially Albies to sign these ridiculously team friendly contracts? Albies’ agent should be fired. Utility players make more than that. Acuna put up nearly 4 wins in 110 games as a rookie. I know he only got a 100k singing bonus, and wanted to secure a payday but that’s still too team friendly. Nick Castellanos is a limited ~3 WAR player and just got 16M/year in FA. He could have easily cleared the 13M AAV or whatever it was even if he regressed heavily or missed some time with injuries.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

The deal was great even given the realities of baseball economics, but it makes no sense to ignore those realities. Using AAV to analyze a contract that buys out pre-arb and arbitration years makes no sense. The Braves guaranteed $54 million for what would have been Acuña’s arbitration years, and guaranteed $34 million more for the next two years. Yes, there is also a lot of downside in those two years, but the guaranteed $34 million does have value. Honestly, if Acuña were willing to sign the deal ending with the 2 $17 million guaranteed years, I think it would make sense. But the Braves got a lot more value for the guarantees, as they got 2 more option years. So Acuña traded 4 years of free agency for a guaranteed $100 million which sets him and his children and his brothers and sisters for life, (if you are asking why he’d do it). If the options pick up, he’ll make $124 million, and most likely will be in line to sign another contract for $200-400 million (or more?) if he pans out as the superstar he seems to be.

Acuña’s deal was the biggest ever for a player with less than one year of service time. Yes, it seems team friendly even in light of baseball economic realities, but it at least makes sense if you squint and at the end of the day it guarantees $100 million. Now, the Albies contract….

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

You’re arguing that his contract isn’t team friendly when it’s literally the #1 asset in baseball lmao. Acuna isn’t some scrappy player who reached the majors at 24. He was a phenom. Next Trout, Harper, etc. He should have been up at 19 but his service time was manipulated by the Braves. Considering his prospect status, what others his age have done before him, and his youth, it’s a terrible deal for him. He should have given up maybe one or two years of FA like Mike Trout did. Giving up four is too much for a player of his caliber.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Where and how did I argue his contract is not team friendly? Don’t just make shit up, dude.

jtmorgan
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

It is a team friendly contract, but he likely would be the number one trade asset without it. Now the argument would be far more interesting as Acuna, Tatis, and Soto all would have 4 years of team control remaining.

I would still take Acuna, but I don’t think any of the three would be unreasonable. The length of the contract makes it a an easy decision, but the bulk of the reason he’s the #1 trade asset is just for being great with very little service time.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

I agree here, the big issue with the Acuna contract isn’t necessarily total dollars, it’s length. There is really no reason he should have felt pressured to give up 4 years of FA given precedent.

I do remember hearing somewhere that Acuna set the target at $100M and this is what the Braves offered to get there. So if that were to be true, and even if it’s a completely arbitrary number on his part, it makes some sense if that were the case.

I’m not subscribed but I think this Athletic piece says something along these lines.

https://theathletic.com/905643/2019/04/04/rosenthal-in-the-screwy-world-of-baseball-economics-even-as-the-players-win-hello-100-million-theyre-losing/

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

There were rumblings of a kind of perfect storm of events that led to those contracts.

Not all of this is proven fact but has been alluded to by members in the industry including former Fangraphs writer Kiley McDaniel:
1. Both players are represented by a small agency (SportsMeter) who was concerned a bigger agency may poach their clients before the agency could ‘cash in’ on a big contract signing.
2. Albies and Acuna are best friends and wanted to stay together.
3. Albies and Acuna both come from financially challenged backgrounds and the money they guaranteed themselves is life changing for their families (though not necessarily right away since there was no significant upfront bonus for Acuna and his year 1 salary was something like $1M).

Ultimately both players accepted the contracts that were offered by the Braves. Should their agent have done more? I think it’s inarguable there is more he could have done but accepting a contract offer is not the agent’s choice.

It’s difficult to understand the pressure the players may have felt from themselves, from family, or otherwise that lead them to accepting the contracts they did, but here we are.

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

Isn’t that illegal or something? Maybe I’m wrong but that seems illegal. I understand those points of view and they are admirable, but I was just going off of dollars and cents. Albies rushing to get an extension done I understand a bit more since he wasn’t as highly touted.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

The actual dollars of the contract aren’t that bad. The issue is the amount of future value Acuna gave up by delaying free agency by an additional 2 years over the typical pre-arb extension.

The contract is really only perceived as poorly as it is because of the length. If Acuna’s agent helped him understand what the terms are, what he is giving up, and perhaps even lets him know they could probably get more and Acuna still chooses to accept there’s nothing the agent can really do (a good agent probably offers a counter anyways but it’s not a breach of ethics if he doesn’t).

Unless the agent intentionally mislead Acuna or withheld information about the terms or something along those lines then there’s no breach of ethics here.

TRad
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

It is about marginal utility.

100% of getting $33M (read: I’m set for all my life and my family is set for their life no matter what happen to me) is worth more for Albies than getting more money later and not for sure (s**t happens).

Usability of money isn’t linear!

Shirtless George Brett
5 years ago
Reply to  TRad

While its true that “shit happens” its really not the likely outcome. Its more likely that Albies is still a really good player in 6 years and would make ALOT more money.

I mean, its possible that you die before your next birthday. I doubt you are setting up your finances with that outcome in mind though.

TRad
5 years ago

Yes, it is unlikely.

However it is not about maximizing EV of earned money, but about maximizing EV USABILITY of money.

Let’s suppose you have 1 billion dollars. Somebody offers you a bet. 10 throws of a coin. If it’s ten times heads – you lose everything. If it’s anything else – you get 2 billions extra. Are you in? I’m not.

Shirtless George Brett
5 years ago
Reply to  TRad

Well for starters, that analogy is not even close to the same thing as Albies situation. lol.

But, yeah, I take than bet without hesitation. Who wouldnt? The odds of me winning that bet are literally 99.9%. You are essentially handing me $2 billion dollars lol.

If your bar for making a deal is it has to be an absolute certainty, like literally 100%, not even 99.9% is good enough, then I’m not sure what to tell you. Glad you are not an agent though.

Brian McMember since 2020
5 years ago

Actually, most people with dependents do get life insurance.

I’m not saying these are not extremely team friendly contracts, but I get why the players sign them. Its extremely tempting to set yourself and your kids (and your parents, brothers and sisters) up for life. There are plenty of examples of players just not working out, usually due to injury (Gradu Sizemore, Mark Prior, Jesus Montero, etc). Add to that the fact that these two players dont come from a solid financial starting point, it makes sense.

All that being said, I wish there was a system where they weren’t so tempted to take these below market deals. Too bad the MLB players union doesn’t get involved.

Cave Dameron
5 years ago

Thank you Craig, very cool!

Willians Astu-stu-studilloMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Cave Dameron

Thank you Cave, very cool!

London Yank
5 years ago

Maybe they are growing pains, but Gleyber’s defense this year has been shockingly bad. The problem is he just makes way too many mistakes on routine plays for an everyday shortstop. This is probably the easiest part of a middle infielder’s game to improve on, so there is reason to think he’ll get better. But if he doesn’t the Yankees will be looking to move Gleyber to a less demanding position.

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

It’s been rough but we’re also like 25 games into the season.

emh1969
5 years ago

Thanks Craig, great work! The trade value series is always one of the highlights of the season.

I did want to make a small suggestion. Is there some way to include relievers in future rankings, either in their own separate list or in the honorable mention list? We’ve seen before that teams are willing to give up a lot to get quality relievers so it seems like they deserve to be mentioned somewhere.

Let’s look at James Karinchak as an example. Yes, he’s only thrown 19 innings in the majors. Be he’s struck out 47.2% of the batters he’s faced, has a 0.71 FIP, has dominated righties and lefties, and has gone more than 1 inning in 6 of his 17 appearances. Of course, he’s also cheap and under team control for a long time.

Seems like he’d bring in quite haul if Cleveland decided to trade him. That’s just one example…I’m sure there are others. Anyway, I’d really like to see some mention of relievers in future rankings.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

19 innings in a season where pitchers are at the advantage.

I love Karinchak but there’s definitely not enough there yet. If he’s performing like this a year from now then definitely.

I generally agree though, RPs have proven to have huge value. The issue with relievers is volatility due to sample sizes and health. RPs are most valuable when they are performing at an elite level and healthy. So the short-term is weighted is even more highly for an RP than an SP.

But just as an example, in July 2018 when the 2018 trade value list was released, you’re going to tell me Jean Segura (48) or Odubel Herrera (43) net more in a trade than Hader (unlisted) who at that point has a full season worth of elite RP production under his belt?

Sure in hindsight it’s easy to mock that list, Segura and Herrera were young-ish at up the middle positions with solid offensive production who have not really built on that previous performance. But I still think Hader easily had more value than either guy at that point.

mikejuntMember
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

While pitchers were clearly ahead of hitters early on, hitters have pretty rapidly caught up in the last couple weeks and we’re no longer dealing with a season with abjectly low offensive levels and extremely high pitching performances. The only reason to consider this in regards to Karinchak’s performance at this point would be if all 19 of those innings came during that low-offense period early on.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

It’s definitely still part of the consideration at this point considering how small the sample of innings we are looking at is.

emh1969
5 years ago
Reply to  averagejoe15

I agree with your comments averagejoe15.

I choose Karinchak because I’m a Cleveland fan so he’s the guy who easily came to mind for me. And I was careful not to say that he (or any other reliever) definitely belongs in the top 50. Though maybe there are some who do. Again, sticking with Cleveland, they gave up a lot to get Andrew Miller and Brad Hand. Likely more than what some of the guys at the bottom of the list would have fetched.

Anyway, however it’s done, it would be nice for relievers to get some recognition in this series.

AnonMember since 2025
5 years ago

So the White Sox have 3 players on the list plus an honorable mention, 3 of whom were acquired in trades for vets just about to pass their peak (all 3 were 27-28). In those same trades they also acquired 2 useful starters with upside (Lopez, Cease), another guy who has already made a start for them this year and has some promise (Dunning) and potential future star in Kopech (who actually was mentioned in the HM section as being close to the HM list, making him an Honorable Honorable Mention or maybe an Honorable Mention Honorable Mention).

That’s how you rebuild. . . .

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Don’t forget about Tim Anderson, who surely would have made the Honorable Honorable Honorable Mention list if it existed.

AnonMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

From a standpoint of rebuilding he wouldn’t really fit in as a 2013 draft pick which came before the tear down in 2017, but yes he’s another good youngish piece signed for possibly another 4 years (2 guaranteed and 2 options) .

I was just struck by the fact that the Sox did amazingly well in the tear down and rebuild of the franchise in 2017. They traded Sale and Eaton on consecutive days in December 2016 and then Quintana in July 2017 and they signed Robert in May 2017.

OtterMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

And while he’s flawed (doesn’t walk, below average glove), Tim Anderson has the second highest wRC+ for short stops since the start of the 2019 season and there’s an argument he should have been on the HM list. He’s controlled for 4 years at $43.25m but only $17.25m guaranteed.

While the Sox have done well in the various trades they made during the rebuild, the draft, thus far, has been less successful. Fulmer is already gone, Collins can’t catch and the bat is a question still, Burger got hurt a few times, Madrigal doesn’t have power, and Vaughn is 1b only. They also haven’t found much in the later rounds, though there are some interesting bullpen arms: Heuer, Burdi, Lambert, Foster, Stiever. And, other than Robert, the Sox don’t play much in the international sandbox.

No matter what, the Sox rebuild will always be a what if due to the Shields/Tatis trade.

Rational FanMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Collins has improved mightily as a receiver. Him working with Grandal and Mccann has helped.

AnonMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Yeah, the Shields/Tatis trade hurts but that pre-dates the tear down. They traded for Shields on 6/4/16 when they were 29-27 and 2 games out. They faded down the stretch, finished 78-84 and the tear down commenced that offseason.

I would say those kinds of trades aren’t going to happen again. . . .but they probably will.

MarioLopez
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Also traded away what would of been their highest ranked player on the list for a vet who was completely washed up though

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  MarioLopez

At the same time Tatis was a low level prospect at the time. The Padres hit the lottery. There are many much worse deals made for seemingly can’t miss prospects.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
5 years ago
Reply to  Anon

And it’s funny, their rebuild was being considered a failure a couple of years ago (when Giolito and Moncada were doing terrible). Moral of the story is that young players can get better

yaro
5 years ago

Seeing Albies contract laid out like this just hurts.

OtterMember since 2016
5 years ago

I have, for a while, struggled with Albies ranking … I think I’m good with it now. Last year and even this year, I was more of the thought, “we know teams play more for elite performance, but do they pay as much for good to very good performance”. Albies is very good, but not elite. The contract is great, but would the Braves really get a amazing haul for him?

And then I remembered the Adam Eaton trade. Mid-10s Eaton was in the very good group, not the elite, and the White Sox still got quite the haul when they traded him (Yelich maybe falls into this group too, though he probably was closer to elite and younger, when moved, than Eaton). This is all around about way of saying, maybe he is in the top 10 .

BUT I’m not sure any of the teams that employee Moncada, Bellinger, Franco, Devers, Buehler, Bichette and probably Robert would move those players for Albies purely because he contract is that great. Albies value is partly tied to the team trading for him: you’d need a win now, high salary team with a hole at second base to trade for Albies. Those teams exist, but I think his market is smaller than that of some of the players just listed. The Dodgers aren’t trading Bellinger for Albies (the Braves I assume would). And so on and so forth.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

The Braves would not trade Albies for Bellinger.

This post is based on an extremely dubious premise. I don’t know what “elite” is to you, but by past performance and projections, Albies is one of the best players in baseball. I cannot imagine the Braves considering a straight up trade of Albies for anyone other than Tatis, Soto, or Trout.

LuBob? Really? If AA made that trade he’d be fired before he could hang up the phone. Out of a cannon. Into the sun.

OtterMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

It’s much easier to replace a 4 win player than a 5 win player. It’s easier to replace a 5 win player than a 6 win player. It’s easier to replace a 6 win player than a 7 win player. It’s easier to replace a 7 win player than an 8 win player.

Bellinger has an 8 win season under his belt and is projecting to be a 6 win player. Albies has a 4 win season and projecting to be a 5 win player, which I’ll admit I’m dubious he can reach. At some point the value of Albies contract doesn’t make up for the difference in elite production. I’m not sure exactly where that cut off is.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

This argument would be somewhat compelling, provided a high view on Bellinger and low view on Albies, if the years were similar, but they are not. Albies is controlled for seven years. Bellinger for three.

Also worth noting that there is some projection for improved hitting by Albies from the left side. He picked up switch hitting late in his development and has been worse from that side, but could improve. That being said, the Braves and Astros were tied for 2nd base value. There are at least half a dozen contending teams with mediocre at best options at second base and Albies is at or near the top of the heap at that position. His value is absolutely a combination of the contract and his ability. He’d be on this list even without the contract. And on top of everything, he seems like a super cool dude and a great teammate.

And if AA even thinks about trading him my wife would probably slash his tires and throw his phone in the toilet.

TRad
5 years ago
Reply to  Otter

Yes, it is easier. When you have enough money. Braves are on quite tight budget. For them it’s not Albies or Bellinger. It’s, for example, Albies AND extending Freeman or Bellinger.

They have cheap nucleus. Priceless.

EltnegMember since 2020
5 years ago

I remember discussion a couple years back of how good Chris Davis would have to be, and for how long, to make his contract moveable.

What’s the flipside of that for Ozzie? Like, if he suddenly became a replacement-level player, how long would it take him to fall off this list, let alone make him untradeable?

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Eltneg

Two seasons seems about right

OddBall Herrera
5 years ago

Soto vs. Tatis really comes down to how you want to value defensive position. Because hands down, I’m taking Soto as the surer bet to be a superstar on offense. Tatis’ profile simply has more volatility.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

Tatis has more room for next level superstardom. It will be nearly impossible for Soto to go above the 6-7 WAR range because of his defense and base running. Tatis at least in theory could be the next Mike Trout and have several seasons of 9+ WAR. There’s more to dream on there.

steveo
5 years ago

This makes me think about the Red Sox trading Rafael Devers. Their farm system is empty, their major league squad has only a handful of building blocks, and Devers has only 3 years of control left so they won’t get a huge discount if they signed him long term. If they can get a top 20ish and top 100 prospect and a couple of depth pieces, maybe they should maybe do it. They can develop young players and sign some big FAs to supplement when they’re ready. A tear down would stink, but their rotation is in shambles, their bullpen stinks, and their lineup is extremely top heavy. Also Devers’ body type would make me think twice about a long term deal although he’s been a good defender (maybe not this year).

I wouldn’t tear it down because tear downs stink, but it’s something to think about.

Jross
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

He’s also played like shit this year.

Captain Tenneal
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

The whole point of even having a farm system is to produce players like Devers, and you want to trade him after getting just 1 All Star season out of him? Why have a good farm if you’re going to trade away the good players it produces?

Bjd1207
5 years ago

Because Devers alone isn’t going to win you anything. And if you have a team willing to overpay in the long term (multiple bluechip prospects) in order to get Devers in the short term to win a pennant, it makes sense to move on from players like Devers.

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

I highly doubt we’ll see that. The Sox have showed a willingness to spend big in free agency and now that they’ve reset the luxury tax and shed some payroll, I think you’ll see them acquire several key pieces via free agency. They’ll also have Sale and E-Rod back next year and the offense is already solid. If they can secure one of the top starting pitchers on the market and add a #3 to the rotation, they should be in the playoff hunt.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago

I understand why Torres is ranked so high. He’s 23 with a career 120 wRC+ under control till 25. At the same he had a bad body by baseball standards and has consistently ranked poorly by defensive metrics. I don’t think the placement is crazy but I would personally have him in teens. To me I’d put Chapman, Yelich (even with the weird start to the year), and Jose Ramirez over him.

steveo
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

He doesn’t have a bad body at all. He’s just not ripped. A bad body is Rafael Devers. Or Pete Alonso. Who also are in the top 20 as well. Is there a bad body playing SS in MLB? I can’t think of one. I’m lower on Gleyber as well, but not because of his body. More so because of his exit velocities and I’m not sure if the power is elite or simply very good. ZiPS has some outlandish projections for his power.

mattMember since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Gleyber has no business playing short stop in the majors. Devers and Jose are bigger but still are better defenders by a good bit

VillainMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Torres has about the same speed as Alonso. It’s not what you want to see from your 23 year old shortstop.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

I’m not sure I’d put Gleyber Torres that high. I know his projections are through the roof but there are some real questions about how much upside he has. I think I’d put him down with Marte and Robert, both of whom have far better contracts from the team’s perspective.

d_iMember since 2016
5 years ago

is there a reason you don’t include years beyond 2025 in the tables and grid? would like to see the full picture regarding control length at a glance.

D-WizMember since 2019
5 years ago

Good God every time I see those Braves contract I am shocked anew. Borderline criminal that they have those two players locked up for so long at just over $20 mil per year total.

Ben HallMember since 2016
5 years ago

Given Bieber’s dominance so far this season, his ZiPS projections have skyrocketed. On his player page, his projected 2021 and 2022 WAR are both 5.1. I’m not sure that pushes him higher, because, as noted, he’s a pitcher, but his performance this year is at a different level, though of course in only a few weeks sample.

ascheffMember since 2017
5 years ago

Statcast has a metric that tracks expected home runs based on batted ball data vs actual home runs, and Gleyber Torres was top five in actual-expected in 2019. We know that the 2020 ball has more drag than the 2019 ball did, so given his below average exit velos, Torres might be one of the players who benefited most from the 2019 juiced ball.

His exit velos and launch angle haven’t changed that much, and his HR/FB rate dropped from 22% to 4%. Even if that rate settles into something in the 10-15% range, just the change in the ball might be the different between him having 35 HR power and being perennial all star even if he has to play second base and him having 20-25 HR power and being only an average player if he can’t stick at short.

Baseball Anagrams
5 years ago

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5 years ago

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TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago

TYFYS

ChippersJonesing
5 years ago

“ Nanodracula Jr.”

Yes.

ChippersJonesing
5 years ago

“Heston Kiura”

This one amused me most of all.

kevininmotion
5 years ago

Dodgers with 6 of 50 players on this list. Testament to their emphasis on drafting, player development, and spending big on the right player (Mookie).

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  kevininmotion

And also their commitment to running a huge market team with unlimited $$$ on the Tampa Bay cheap model.

Good going, I guess.

Willians Astu-stu-studilloMember since 2020
5 years ago

Alex Bregman still ranked in the top 5? I don’t know why, but somehow I didn’t expect that baseball would be buzzing with excitement over this guy.

shaq_diesel
5 years ago

When Ozzie Albies grows up, he wants to be Brandon Lowe.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

So in 3 years when Albies is Lowe’s age you mean? Brandon Lowe of the 4.3 career fWAR which Albies has surpassed in a single season already?

I do really like Lowe but he’s still in prove it mode. Albies put up 4.6 fWAR with a 117 wRC+, leaves a heck of a lot of room for growth.

Mahoney
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

Even with Lowe and the 50 or so second-base types on the Rays roster, if the Braves offered Albies for Franco straight up there’s a very real chance the Rays would jump on it.

WerthlessMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

Hyperbole aside, Lowe is a glaring omission. He’s cut his chase rate from 34 to 25%. This has turned around his BB and K rates. He’s been worth 5 WAR over his first season’s worth of games (5.2 WAR in first 153 games).

With his recent plate discipline improvements generating some upwardly revised projections, and with his favorable contract status, he’s undoubtedly one of the best 50 trade assets. ZIPS projects him for 0.7 WAR over the remaining 24 games, which means that ZIPS thinks he’s a 4 WAR player. I’d put him somewhere in the 25-35 range. I prefer Lowe over Olson and Muncy, but those 2 guys are probably lower on my list than their ranking here.

No way is he traded for Jorge Polanco or Jeff McNeil, ranked 38 and 40 here.

Goms
5 years ago

I don’t think the production gap is enough to warrant Betts at #47 and Trout at #4 when Betts is a year younger and makes $8 mil less a year. Feels like one of those rankings has to be wrong. Either Trout’s contract makes his trade value much lower or Betts contract doesn’t hinder his trade value THAT much.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Goms

There may be a heap of soft value in trading for a top-5 all time player. It is also hard to even contextualize the difference between Trout and the gaggle of players vying for second best status (Betts and Bregman seem the leaders now to me, but Soto and Tatis are having compelling seasons, and Acuña and Yellich deserve mention, too). See that’s a lot of guys kind of like Betts. None of them are close enough to sniff Trout even if he smells like a fish.

radivel
5 years ago

Biggio, Biggio, wherefore art thou Biggio?