2018 ZiPS Projections – New York Mets
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the New York Mets. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
Batters
Mets position players actually put together a pretty strong campaign in 2017, recording the 11th-best WAR in the majors among their peers. That would normally represent some cause for optimism in terms of next season — would, that is, were the current roster to feature the same personnel as this past year’s. An inspection of that roster, however, reveals that four of the club’s top seven players by WAR from 2017 are no longer employed by the organization. Curtis Granderson (2.3 WAR for the Mets in 2017), Jay Bruce (2.0), Jose Reyes (2.0), and Neil Walker (1.4) have all departed either by way of trade or free agency.
The exodus of talent might pose some challenges to the 2018 edition of the Mets. According to Dan Szymborski’s computer, however, it also might not. ZiPS calls for over seven wins combined from Yoenis Cespedes (projected for 500 PA and 3.4 zWAR) and Michael Conforto (513, 3.7), which would go some distance towards mitigating the losses of the club’s departed outfielders. The projections here also suggest that young shortstop Amed Rosario (594, 2.2) and young first baseman Dominic Smith (652, 2.5) could produce nearly five wins as a pair — this, after recording -0.3 WAR collectively in 2017. Those sorts of return would likely place the Mets’ field-playing contingent among the league’s middle third again.
Pitchers
The prognosis for the staff is less encouraging. Among Mets pitchers, only Jacob deGrom crossed the two-win threshold in 2017. Only deGrom (181.1 IP, 3.9 zWAR) and Noah Syndergaard (141.2, 4.1) are forecast to do it in 2018. There isn’t a lot of substance after that pair. For example: the third-ranked pitcher by projected WAR, Steven Matz (105.0, 1.7), is returning from an elbow injury that could complicate matters*. The fourth-best one, Marcos Molina (108.1, 1.3), has literally never appeared above Double-A.
*A reminder: ZiPS doesn’t account for injuries, specifically. Rather, it adjusts playing time based on a player’s history.
As for the Mets bullpen, it would likely also benefit from an upgrade. Mets relievers produced 1.2 WAR collectively in 2017. By comparison, four different members of the Yankees pen reached that same figure on their own. A healthy Jeurys Familia (57.0 IP, 73 ERA-, 1.2 zWAR) would benefit the club considerably. A full season of A.J. Ramos (57.1, 84, 1.0) would also help. If the club intends to lean on the bullpen more heavily in 2018, however, they’ll probably have to acquire more capable arms.
Bench/Prospects
While both Rosario and Smith exhausted their rookie eligibility in 2017, they’ve recorded fewer than 350 plate appearances between them. Were they to reach their projected win totals in 2018 — again, 2.2 and 2.5 WAR, respectively — that would solve a couple of problems for the club very quickly. Brandon Nimmo (474 PA, 0.8 zWAR) also exceeded the rookie limit this past season. Szymborski’s computer is less optimistic about him, although he might approach average-type production in a platoon role. Among rookie-eligible field players, Gavin Cecchini (570, 1.0) receives the top projection.
Again, there are fewer alternatives in the organization in terms of pitching. The aforementioned Marcos Molina (108.1 IP, 101 ERA-, 1.3 zWAR) isn’t the club’s top prospect but is the most ready for the majors, according to the projections here. Josh Smoker (70.1, 87, 0.9) is absent from the depth chart here but would be an asset in the bullpen, it seems. Ben Rowen (60.2, 86, 0.8) left as a minor-league free agent but is also well acquitted by ZiPS.
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Mets, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to enlarge image.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Conforto | L | 25 | LF | 513 | 74 | 117 | 26 | 2 | 27 | 81 | 2 | 2 |
| Yoenis Cespedes | R | 32 | LF | 500 | 69 | 122 | 26 | 3 | 25 | 78 | 3 | 2 |
| Dominic Smith | L | 23 | 1B | 652 | 76 | 164 | 31 | 2 | 20 | 82 | 1 | 1 |
| Amed Rosario | R | 22 | SS | 594 | 61 | 145 | 21 | 10 | 9 | 51 | 20 | 8 |
| Travis d’Arnaud | R | 29 | C | 379 | 42 | 90 | 19 | 1 | 13 | 49 | 0 | 0 |
| Kevin Plawecki | R | 27 | C | 392 | 38 | 90 | 17 | 1 | 9 | 42 | 1 | 0 |
| Wilmer Flores | R | 26 | 3B | 433 | 51 | 109 | 20 | 1 | 19 | 65 | 1 | 1 |
| Juan Lagares | R | 29 | CF | 366 | 40 | 85 | 17 | 3 | 5 | 28 | 8 | 3 |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | B | 32 | SS | 540 | 63 | 129 | 29 | 3 | 15 | 60 | 4 | 2 |
| Gavin Cecchini | R | 24 | 2B | 570 | 60 | 134 | 26 | 3 | 8 | 47 | 4 | 4 |
| Jose Reyes | B | 35 | SS | 492 | 65 | 114 | 21 | 5 | 12 | 49 | 19 | 5 |
| Phillip Evans | R | 25 | 3B | 506 | 49 | 113 | 22 | 2 | 8 | 42 | 2 | 2 |
| Tomas Nido | R | 24 | C | 408 | 39 | 90 | 19 | 2 | 9 | 43 | 0 | 1 |
| Brandon Nimmo | L | 25 | CF | 474 | 55 | 96 | 18 | 4 | 9 | 43 | 4 | 3 |
| Jhoan Urena | B | 23 | 3B | 547 | 58 | 113 | 24 | 3 | 13 | 55 | 9 | 2 |
| T.J. Rivera | R | 29 | 3B | 430 | 46 | 107 | 19 | 1 | 8 | 47 | 2 | 1 |
| Victor Cruzado | B | 26 | CF | 376 | 38 | 73 | 11 | 3 | 7 | 31 | 3 | 4 |
| Nori Aoki | L | 36 | LF | 407 | 48 | 100 | 18 | 3 | 4 | 30 | 10 | 5 |
| Luis Guillorme | L | 23 | 2B | 565 | 54 | 125 | 19 | 1 | 1 | 32 | 3 | 3 |
| Peter Alonso | R | 23 | 1B | 407 | 47 | 91 | 23 | 2 | 16 | 53 | 2 | 5 |
| Patrick Mazeika | L | 24 | C | 402 | 41 | 85 | 20 | 0 | 5 | 33 | 1 | 1 |
| Josh Rodriguez | R | 33 | 3B | 392 | 39 | 77 | 13 | 2 | 10 | 37 | 4 | 2 |
| Desmond Jennings | R | 31 | CF | 257 | 28 | 53 | 11 | 2 | 7 | 23 | 4 | 3 |
| Kevin Taylor | L | 26 | LF | 454 | 45 | 97 | 17 | 1 | 5 | 34 | 1 | 1 |
| Xorge Carrillo | R | 29 | C | 303 | 29 | 64 | 11 | 0 | 7 | 27 | 0 | 1 |
| Jeff McNeil | L | 26 | 2B | 390 | 40 | 86 | 15 | 2 | 4 | 31 | 7 | 4 |
| Matt Reynolds | R | 26 | SS | 461 | 46 | 89 | 18 | 3 | 7 | 41 | 9 | 3 |
| David Wright | R | 35 | 3B | 291 | 29 | 61 | 11 | 0 | 6 | 29 | 3 | 2 |
| Travis Taijeron | R | 29 | RF | 529 | 61 | 98 | 26 | 2 | 19 | 63 | 1 | 2 |
| L.J. Mazzilli | R | 27 | 2B | 445 | 43 | 90 | 18 | 3 | 6 | 35 | 7 | 3 |
| David Thompson | R | 24 | 3B | 508 | 51 | 107 | 25 | 2 | 12 | 52 | 6 | 3 |
| Jayce Boyd | R | 27 | LF | 318 | 32 | 69 | 15 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 2 | 1 |
| Anthony Dimino | L | 24 | C | 236 | 22 | 51 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 8 | 5 |
| Kevin Kaczmarski | L | 26 | RF | 493 | 49 | 103 | 19 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 11 | 7 |
| Cody Decker | R | 31 | 1B | 341 | 37 | 61 | 14 | 1 | 15 | 43 | 0 | 1 |
| Travis Snider | L | 30 | LF | 412 | 40 | 82 | 16 | 1 | 8 | 34 | 1 | 2 |
| Jiovanni Mier | R | 27 | 3B | 322 | 28 | 59 | 13 | 1 | 5 | 25 | 3 | 3 |
| Gustavo Nunez | B | 30 | SS | 331 | 29 | 71 | 9 | 2 | 2 | 20 | 9 | 7 |
| Matt Oberste | R | 26 | 1B | 497 | 47 | 104 | 21 | 3 | 7 | 43 | 2 | 1 |
| John Mora | L | 25 | CF | 553 | 51 | 109 | 19 | 6 | 4 | 38 | 12 | 11 |
| Wuilmer Becerra | R | 23 | RF | 500 | 41 | 102 | 17 | 1 | 3 | 30 | 11 | 5 |
***
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | wRC+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Conforto | 513 | 10.7% | 24.6% | .248 | .302 | .261 | .349 | .509 | .360 | 125 |
| Yoenis Cespedes | 500 | 7.0% | 20.2% | .234 | .290 | .268 | .322 | .502 | .342 | 113 |
| Dominic Smith | 652 | 6.7% | 18.9% | .158 | .312 | .272 | .324 | .430 | .322 | 100 |
| Amed Rosario | 594 | 4.4% | 19.9% | .121 | .311 | .259 | .295 | .380 | .289 | 79 |
| Travis d’Arnaud | 379 | 6.6% | 16.4% | .172 | .280 | .259 | .312 | .431 | .315 | 96 |
| Kevin Plawecki | 392 | 6.6% | 16.3% | .129 | .282 | .253 | .311 | .382 | .299 | 85 |
| Wilmer Flores | 433 | 5.1% | 14.8% | .197 | .278 | .270 | .310 | .467 | .326 | 103 |
| Juan Lagares | 366 | 4.4% | 19.4% | .112 | .300 | .250 | .289 | .362 | .280 | 73 |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | 540 | 7.8% | 16.7% | .164 | .295 | .265 | .327 | .429 | .323 | 101 |
| Gavin Cecchini | 570 | 6.8% | 14.9% | .106 | .290 | .255 | .308 | .361 | .292 | 80 |
| Jose Reyes | 492 | 7.5% | 13.8% | .150 | .276 | .255 | .311 | .405 | .307 | 91 |
| Phillip Evans | 506 | 6.1% | 19.4% | .107 | .287 | .240 | .291 | .347 | .278 | 71 |
| Tomas Nido | 408 | 4.7% | 20.3% | .131 | .274 | .234 | .270 | .365 | .272 | 67 |
| Brandon Nimmo | 474 | 11.8% | 26.4% | .129 | .312 | .233 | .330 | .362 | .305 | 89 |
| Jhoan Urena | 547 | 7.7% | 26.9% | .138 | .291 | .225 | .285 | .363 | .280 | 73 |
| T.J. Rivera | 430 | 3.7% | 15.3% | .111 | .298 | .266 | .301 | .377 | .292 | 81 |
| Victor Cruzado | 376 | 9.6% | 26.6% | .112 | .284 | .216 | .293 | .328 | .274 | 69 |
| Nori Aoki | 407 | 7.1% | 10.1% | .098 | .295 | .272 | .332 | .370 | .307 | 91 |
| Luis Guillorme | 565 | 8.0% | 12.9% | .047 | .282 | .245 | .307 | .292 | .269 | 66 |
| Peter Alonso | 407 | 4.9% | 22.4% | .198 | .276 | .241 | .292 | .439 | .310 | 92 |
| Patrick Mazeika | 402 | 8.2% | 17.4% | .098 | .282 | .238 | .318 | .336 | .292 | 80 |
| Josh Rodriguez | 392 | 7.7% | 28.6% | .131 | .283 | .216 | .279 | .347 | .273 | 68 |
| Desmond Jennings | 257 | 7.8% | 22.2% | .156 | .271 | .228 | .293 | .384 | .290 | 79 |
| Kevin Taylor | 454 | 8.8% | 15.9% | .084 | .276 | .238 | .309 | .322 | .280 | 73 |
| Xorge Carrillo | 303 | 5.3% | 22.4% | .115 | .277 | .229 | .281 | .344 | .272 | 67 |
| Jeff McNeil | 390 | 5.1% | 17.7% | .087 | .287 | .241 | .295 | .328 | .272 | 67 |
| Matt Reynolds | 461 | 6.7% | 27.5% | .107 | .283 | .212 | .270 | .319 | .258 | 58 |
| David Wright | 291 | 10.3% | 25.4% | .111 | .306 | .236 | .316 | .347 | .291 | 80 |
| Travis Taijeron | 529 | 10.0% | 34.8% | .188 | .300 | .212 | .304 | .400 | .305 | 89 |
| L.J. Mazzilli | 445 | 7.6% | 20.4% | .104 | .271 | .223 | .284 | .327 | .268 | 64 |
| David Thompson | 508 | 5.1% | 22.8% | .138 | .273 | .228 | .274 | .366 | .274 | 69 |
| Jayce Boyd | 318 | 7.2% | 20.1% | .120 | .284 | .237 | .299 | .357 | .287 | 77 |
| Anthony Dimino | 236 | 8.1% | 16.9% | .042 | .291 | .238 | .302 | .280 | .263 | 61 |
| Kevin Kaczmarski | 493 | 7.9% | 20.5% | .092 | .290 | .233 | .300 | .325 | .275 | 69 |
| Cody Decker | 341 | 7.0% | 37.8% | .196 | .271 | .196 | .258 | .392 | .277 | 71 |
| Travis Snider | 412 | 9.2% | 24.8% | .113 | .281 | .221 | .294 | .334 | .275 | 69 |
| Jiovanni Mier | 322 | 6.2% | 25.5% | .102 | .257 | .201 | .256 | .303 | .246 | 50 |
| Gustavo Nunez | 331 | 4.8% | 17.8% | .061 | .277 | .231 | .269 | .292 | .246 | 50 |
| Matt Oberste | 497 | 6.4% | 24.3% | .105 | .291 | .228 | .282 | .333 | .268 | 65 |
| John Mora | 553 | 6.7% | 22.8% | .085 | .277 | .215 | .273 | .300 | .253 | 55 |
| Wuilmer Becerra | 500 | 4.6% | 30.0% | .060 | .313 | .218 | .265 | .278 | .240 | 47 |
***
| Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | zWAR | No.1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Conforto | 513 | 6.4 | 130 | 4 | 3.7 | Pat Burrell |
| Yoenis Cespedes | 500 | 5.9 | 120 | 9 | 3.4 | Willie Horton |
| Dominic Smith | 652 | 5.2 | 103 | 8 | 2.5 | Adam Lind |
| Amed Rosario | 594 | 4.2 | 82 | 5 | 2.2 | Alex Gonzalez |
| Travis d’Arnaud | 379 | 4.9 | 100 | -3 | 1.9 | Ramon Hernandez |
| Kevin Plawecki | 392 | 4.3 | 88 | 0 | 1.7 | Dan Wilson |
| Wilmer Flores | 433 | 5.3 | 108 | -5 | 1.6 | Dib Williams |
| Juan Lagares | 366 | 3.8 | 76 | 11 | 1.6 | Rufino Linares |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | 540 | 5.2 | 104 | -16 | 1.2 | Johnny Logan |
| Gavin Cecchini | 570 | 4.0 | 82 | -1 | 1.0 | Dominic Rich |
| Jose Reyes | 492 | 4.8 | 93 | -12 | 0.9 | Omar Vizquel |
| Phillip Evans | 506 | 3.5 | 73 | 5 | 0.9 | Ofilio Castro |
| Tomas Nido | 408 | 3.4 | 71 | 1 | 0.8 | Jason Hill |
| Brandon Nimmo | 474 | 4.2 | 89 | -7 | 0.8 | Rich Becker |
| Jhoan Urena | 547 | 3.7 | 75 | 1 | 0.8 | Matt Tuiasosopo |
| T.J. Rivera | 430 | 4.2 | 83 | -1 | 0.8 | Scott Livingstone |
| Victor Cruzado | 376 | 3.2 | 69 | 6 | 0.8 | Ntema Ndungidi |
| Nori Aoki | 407 | 4.5 | 91 | -1 | 0.6 | Russ Snyder |
| Luis Guillorme | 565 | 3.1 | 65 | 6 | 0.6 | Mike Bordick |
| Peter Alonso | 407 | 4.3 | 96 | 2 | 0.6 | Aubrey Huff |
| Patrick Mazeika | 402 | 3.8 | 79 | -8 | 0.6 | Steve Christmas |
| Josh Rodriguez | 392 | 3.3 | 69 | 4 | 0.5 | Jason Wood |
| Desmond Jennings | 257 | 3.8 | 82 | 0 | 0.4 | Damon Buford |
| Kevin Taylor | 454 | 3.5 | 73 | 6 | 0.4 | Ray Harvey |
| Xorge Carrillo | 303 | 3.3 | 69 | -2 | 0.3 | Jeff Smith |
| Jeff McNeil | 390 | 3.4 | 69 | 2 | 0.3 | Juan Melo |
| Matt Reynolds | 461 | 3.0 | 56 | 2 | 0.3 | Travis Dawkins |
| David Wright | 291 | 3.8 | 81 | -3 | 0.2 | Wes Helms |
| Travis Taijeron | 529 | 4.1 | 90 | -7 | 0.1 | Pat Adams |
| L.J. Mazzilli | 445 | 3.3 | 66 | -1 | -0.1 | Ricky Magdaleno |
| David Thompson | 508 | 3.5 | 72 | -4 | -0.2 | Eric Duncan |
| Jayce Boyd | 318 | 3.8 | 78 | -3 | -0.3 | Tim McWilliam |
| Anthony Dimino | 236 | 2.9 | 60 | -5 | -0.3 | Andy Allanson |
| Kevin Kaczmarski | 493 | 3.4 | 71 | 2 | -0.3 | Mike Kingery |
| Cody Decker | 341 | 3.3 | 74 | 2 | -0.3 | Dustan Mohr |
| Travis Snider | 412 | 3.3 | 71 | 0 | -0.5 | Tom Grant |
| Jiovanni Mier | 322 | 2.5 | 52 | 2 | -0.5 | Colin Dixon |
| Gustavo Nunez | 331 | 2.6 | 53 | -2 | -0.7 | Jackie Gutierrez |
| Matt Oberste | 497 | 3.3 | 67 | 2 | -1.0 | Juan Tejeda |
| John Mora | 553 | 2.6 | 56 | -1 | -1.0 | Nathan Panther |
| Wuilmer Becerra | 500 | 2.6 | 48 | -2 | -2.2 | Mark Doran |
***
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Noah Syndergaard | R | 25 | 25 | 24 | 141.7 | 169 | 32 | 12 | 121 | 48 | 45 |
| Jacob deGrom | R | 30 | 29 | 29 | 181.3 | 191 | 48 | 20 | 162 | 73 | 68 |
| Steven Matz | L | 27 | 20 | 20 | 105.0 | 98 | 35 | 12 | 105 | 48 | 45 |
| Marcos Molina | R | 23 | 20 | 19 | 108.3 | 78 | 35 | 11 | 113 | 54 | 50 |
| Jeurys Familia | R | 28 | 59 | 0 | 57.0 | 61 | 25 | 3 | 47 | 20 | 19 |
| Robert Gsellman | R | 24 | 29 | 27 | 142.7 | 103 | 47 | 18 | 154 | 76 | 71 |
| A.J. Ramos | R | 31 | 61 | 0 | 57.3 | 72 | 34 | 5 | 45 | 24 | 22 |
| Jerry Blevins | L | 34 | 67 | 0 | 45.3 | 59 | 20 | 4 | 36 | 17 | 16 |
| Josh Smoker | L | 28 | 67 | 0 | 70.3 | 100 | 29 | 10 | 57 | 30 | 28 |
| Ben Rowen | R | 29 | 51 | 0 | 60.7 | 43 | 16 | 4 | 62 | 26 | 24 |
| P.J. Conlon | L | 24 | 27 | 23 | 128.3 | 89 | 45 | 16 | 138 | 71 | 66 |
| Matt Harvey | R | 29 | 22 | 22 | 114.3 | 87 | 35 | 15 | 118 | 63 | 59 |
| Corey Taylor | R | 25 | 47 | 0 | 63.7 | 41 | 20 | 4 | 67 | 29 | 27 |
| Matt Purke | L | 27 | 47 | 0 | 62.3 | 64 | 36 | 5 | 55 | 29 | 27 |
| Chris Flexen | R | 23 | 17 | 17 | 87.7 | 72 | 34 | 12 | 90 | 48 | 45 |
| Wilfredo Boscan | R | 28 | 25 | 23 | 116.0 | 67 | 41 | 13 | 129 | 66 | 62 |
| Zack Wheeler | R | 28 | 16 | 16 | 99.3 | 95 | 41 | 15 | 97 | 56 | 52 |
| Corey Oswalt | R | 24 | 23 | 23 | 115.0 | 90 | 42 | 17 | 123 | 65 | 61 |
| Chasen Bradford | R | 28 | 44 | 0 | 53.0 | 38 | 11 | 5 | 56 | 25 | 23 |
| Paul Sewald | R | 28 | 60 | 0 | 67.7 | 76 | 22 | 10 | 62 | 33 | 31 |
| Drew Smith | R | 24 | 43 | 0 | 53.7 | 47 | 27 | 4 | 51 | 26 | 24 |
| Jamie Callahan | R | 23 | 49 | 0 | 61.0 | 60 | 31 | 5 | 57 | 30 | 28 |
| Seth Lugo | R | 28 | 25 | 21 | 119.7 | 98 | 32 | 21 | 129 | 70 | 65 |
| Neil Wagner | R | 34 | 38 | 1 | 44.7 | 40 | 22 | 4 | 43 | 22 | 21 |
| Jacob Rhame | R | 25 | 56 | 0 | 63.7 | 71 | 22 | 10 | 60 | 32 | 30 |
| Hansel Robles | R | 27 | 65 | 0 | 76.3 | 81 | 37 | 11 | 69 | 40 | 37 |
| Tim Peterson | R | 27 | 44 | 0 | 51.7 | 51 | 17 | 8 | 51 | 27 | 25 |
| Kyle Regnault | L | 29 | 42 | 0 | 57.0 | 54 | 29 | 6 | 55 | 30 | 28 |
| Josh Edgin | L | 31 | 50 | 0 | 39.0 | 35 | 22 | 4 | 38 | 20 | 19 |
| Cory Burns | R | 30 | 43 | 0 | 55.3 | 49 | 24 | 7 | 55 | 30 | 28 |
| Kevin McGowan | R | 26 | 51 | 2 | 76.0 | 64 | 30 | 11 | 77 | 42 | 39 |
| Rafael Montero | R | 27 | 35 | 23 | 138.3 | 132 | 72 | 20 | 144 | 83 | 78 |
| Ricky Knapp | R | 26 | 27 | 26 | 153.0 | 87 | 44 | 23 | 176 | 93 | 87 |
| Tyler Bashlor | R | 24 | 39 | 0 | 50.7 | 62 | 35 | 6 | 44 | 28 | 26 |
| Jonathan Albaladejo | R | 35 | 19 | 5 | 46.7 | 33 | 17 | 7 | 52 | 28 | 26 |
| Logan Taylor | R | 26 | 40 | 2 | 55.7 | 52 | 33 | 7 | 55 | 33 | 31 |
| Kelly Secrest | L | 26 | 32 | 1 | 47.7 | 45 | 31 | 6 | 47 | 29 | 27 |
| Erik Goeddel | R | 29 | 56 | 0 | 58.0 | 57 | 26 | 10 | 58 | 34 | 32 |
| Tom Gorzelanny | L | 35 | 34 | 1 | 29.3 | 30 | 20 | 4 | 30 | 19 | 18 |
| Tyler Pill | R | 28 | 22 | 20 | 115.0 | 77 | 38 | 21 | 131 | 74 | 69 |
| Alberto Baldonado | L | 25 | 50 | 0 | 56.7 | 59 | 35 | 10 | 56 | 36 | 34 |
| Tommy Milone | L | 31 | 23 | 17 | 98.0 | 71 | 26 | 23 | 113 | 66 | 62 |
| Luis Mateo | R | 28 | 38 | 3 | 53.3 | 43 | 25 | 11 | 59 | 36 | 34 |
| Blake Beavan | R | 29 | 15 | 12 | 74.3 | 45 | 24 | 16 | 89 | 52 | 49 |
| Mickey Jannis | R | 30 | 19 | 19 | 96.3 | 55 | 53 | 14 | 110 | 66 | 62 |
| Beck Wheeler | R | 29 | 41 | 1 | 57.3 | 55 | 39 | 11 | 59 | 41 | 38 |
| Donovan Hand | R | 32 | 27 | 19 | 115.3 | 68 | 36 | 24 | 136 | 79 | 74 |
| Mitch Atkins | R | 32 | 19 | 16 | 89.3 | 68 | 37 | 22 | 105 | 68 | 64 |
***
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Noah Syndergaard | 141.7 | 578 | 29.2% | 5.5% | .301 | 2.86 | 2.57 | 69 | 60 |
| Jacob deGrom | 181.3 | 754 | 25.3% | 6.4% | .288 | 3.37 | 3.26 | 82 | 76 |
| Steven Matz | 105.0 | 455 | 21.5% | 7.7% | .304 | 3.86 | 3.83 | 94 | 89 |
| Marcos Molina | 108.3 | 473 | 16.5% | 7.4% | .297 | 4.15 | 4.06 | 101 | 94 |
| Jeurys Familia | 57.0 | 243 | 25.1% | 10.3% | .288 | 3.00 | 2.86 | 73 | 66 |
| Robert Gsellman | 142.7 | 629 | 16.4% | 7.5% | .300 | 4.48 | 4.47 | 109 | 103 |
| A.J. Ramos | 57.3 | 251 | 28.7% | 13.6% | .292 | 3.45 | 3.61 | 84 | 84 |
| Jerry Blevins | 45.3 | 192 | 30.7% | 10.4% | .299 | 3.18 | 2.96 | 77 | 68 |
| Josh Smoker | 70.3 | 297 | 33.7% | 9.8% | .303 | 3.58 | 3.44 | 87 | 80 |
| Ben Rowen | 60.7 | 260 | 16.5% | 6.2% | .299 | 3.56 | 3.44 | 86 | 80 |
| P.J. Conlon | 128.3 | 568 | 15.7% | 7.9% | .297 | 4.63 | 4.51 | 112 | 104 |
| Matt Harvey | 114.3 | 496 | 17.5% | 7.1% | .290 | 4.64 | 4.31 | 112 | 100 |
| Corey Taylor | 63.7 | 278 | 14.7% | 7.2% | .300 | 3.82 | 3.68 | 93 | 85 |
| Matt Purke | 62.3 | 278 | 23.0% | 13.0% | .294 | 3.90 | 3.98 | 95 | 92 |
| Chris Flexen | 87.7 | 387 | 18.6% | 8.8% | .295 | 4.62 | 4.63 | 112 | 107 |
| Wilfredo Boscan | 116.0 | 518 | 12.9% | 7.9% | .297 | 4.81 | 4.65 | 117 | 108 |
| Zack Wheeler | 99.3 | 436 | 21.8% | 9.4% | .293 | 4.71 | 4.57 | 114 | 106 |
| Corey Oswalt | 115.0 | 510 | 17.6% | 8.2% | .299 | 4.77 | 4.79 | 116 | 111 |
| Chasen Bradford | 53.0 | 226 | 16.8% | 4.9% | .300 | 3.91 | 3.63 | 95 | 84 |
| Paul Sewald | 67.7 | 287 | 26.5% | 7.7% | .295 | 4.12 | 3.85 | 100 | 89 |
| Drew Smith | 53.7 | 239 | 19.7% | 11.3% | .299 | 4.02 | 4.00 | 97 | 92 |
| Jamie Callahan | 61.0 | 271 | 22.1% | 11.4% | .302 | 4.13 | 3.93 | 100 | 91 |
| Seth Lugo | 119.7 | 520 | 18.8% | 6.2% | .297 | 4.89 | 4.70 | 118 | 109 |
| Neil Wagner | 44.7 | 199 | 20.1% | 11.0% | .297 | 4.23 | 4.07 | 103 | 94 |
| Jacob Rhame | 63.7 | 273 | 26.0% | 8.1% | .299 | 4.24 | 4.10 | 103 | 95 |
| Hansel Robles | 76.3 | 335 | 24.2% | 11.0% | .286 | 4.36 | 4.40 | 106 | 102 |
| Tim Peterson | 51.7 | 223 | 22.9% | 7.6% | .298 | 4.35 | 4.24 | 105 | 98 |
| Kyle Regnault | 57.0 | 255 | 21.2% | 11.4% | .301 | 4.42 | 4.26 | 107 | 99 |
| Josh Edgin | 39.0 | 177 | 19.8% | 12.4% | .301 | 4.38 | 4.54 | 106 | 105 |
| Cory Burns | 55.3 | 245 | 20.0% | 9.8% | .296 | 4.55 | 4.39 | 110 | 102 |
| Kevin McGowan | 76.0 | 335 | 19.1% | 9.0% | .292 | 4.62 | 4.70 | 112 | 109 |
| Rafael Montero | 138.3 | 631 | 20.9% | 11.4% | .309 | 5.07 | 4.71 | 123 | 109 |
| Ricky Knapp | 153.0 | 679 | 12.8% | 6.5% | .297 | 5.12 | 4.99 | 124 | 116 |
| Tyler Bashlor | 50.7 | 231 | 26.8% | 15.1% | .304 | 4.62 | 4.50 | 112 | 104 |
| Jonathan Albaladejo | 46.7 | 209 | 15.8% | 8.1% | .302 | 5.01 | 4.85 | 121 | 112 |
| Logan Taylor | 55.7 | 255 | 20.4% | 12.9% | .300 | 5.01 | 4.86 | 121 | 113 |
| Kelly Secrest | 47.7 | 221 | 20.4% | 14.0% | .301 | 5.10 | 4.98 | 124 | 115 |
| Erik Goeddel | 58.0 | 258 | 22.1% | 10.1% | .294 | 4.97 | 4.78 | 120 | 111 |
| Tom Gorzelanny | 29.3 | 138 | 21.8% | 14.5% | .314 | 5.52 | 4.93 | 134 | 114 |
| Tyler Pill | 115.0 | 514 | 15.0% | 7.4% | .296 | 5.40 | 5.31 | 131 | 123 |
| Alberto Baldonado | 56.7 | 261 | 22.6% | 13.4% | .299 | 5.40 | 5.33 | 131 | 123 |
| Tommy Milone | 98.0 | 433 | 16.4% | 6.0% | .290 | 5.69 | 5.59 | 138 | 129 |
| Luis Mateo | 53.3 | 244 | 17.6% | 10.3% | .296 | 5.74 | 5.75 | 139 | 133 |
| Blake Beavan | 74.3 | 336 | 13.4% | 7.1% | .296 | 5.93 | 5.84 | 144 | 135 |
| Mickey Jannis | 96.3 | 452 | 12.2% | 11.7% | .296 | 5.79 | 5.71 | 140 | 132 |
| Beck Wheeler | 57.3 | 270 | 20.4% | 14.4% | .296 | 5.97 | 5.88 | 145 | 136 |
| Donovan Hand | 115.3 | 518 | 13.1% | 7.0% | .293 | 5.77 | 5.78 | 140 | 134 |
| Mitch Atkins | 89.3 | 410 | 16.6% | 9.0% | .300 | 6.45 | 6.28 | 156 | 145 |
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| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Noah Syndergaard | 141.7 | 10.73 | 2.03 | 0.76 | 138 | 4.1 | Dwight Gooden |
| Jacob deGrom | 181.3 | 9.48 | 2.38 | 0.99 | 117 | 3.9 | Kevin Brown |
| Steven Matz | 105.0 | 8.40 | 3.00 | 1.03 | 102 | 1.7 | Steve Trout |
| Marcos Molina | 108.3 | 6.48 | 2.91 | 0.91 | 95 | 1.3 | Early Wynn |
| Jeurys Familia | 57.0 | 9.63 | 3.95 | 0.47 | 132 | 1.2 | John Riedling |
| Robert Gsellman | 142.7 | 6.50 | 2.96 | 1.14 | 88 | 1.1 | Cha-Seung Baek |
| A.J. Ramos | 57.3 | 11.31 | 5.34 | 0.79 | 114 | 1.0 | Turk Wendell |
| Jerry Blevins | 45.3 | 11.72 | 3.97 | 0.79 | 124 | 0.9 | Keith Comstock |
| Josh Smoker | 70.3 | 12.80 | 3.71 | 1.28 | 110 | 0.9 | Willie Hernandez |
| Ben Rowen | 60.7 | 6.38 | 2.37 | 0.59 | 112 | 0.8 | John Boozer |
| P.J. Conlon | 128.3 | 6.24 | 3.16 | 1.12 | 85 | 0.8 | Jeff Mutis |
| Matt Harvey | 114.3 | 6.85 | 2.76 | 1.18 | 85 | 0.7 | Steve Finch |
| Corey Taylor | 63.7 | 5.79 | 2.83 | 0.57 | 103 | 0.6 | Donnie Moore |
| Matt Purke | 62.3 | 9.25 | 5.20 | 0.72 | 101 | 0.5 | Clay Bryant |
| Chris Flexen | 87.7 | 7.39 | 3.49 | 1.23 | 85 | 0.5 | Greg Brummett |
| Wilfredo Boscan | 116.0 | 5.20 | 3.18 | 1.01 | 83 | 0.5 | Howie Fox |
| Zack Wheeler | 99.3 | 8.61 | 3.72 | 1.36 | 84 | 0.5 | Chris Brock |
| Corey Oswalt | 115.0 | 7.04 | 3.29 | 1.33 | 83 | 0.5 | Shawn Hill |
| Chasen Bradford | 53.0 | 6.45 | 1.87 | 0.85 | 101 | 0.5 | Tom Morgan |
| Paul Sewald | 67.7 | 10.10 | 2.92 | 1.33 | 96 | 0.4 | Rich Monteleone |
| Drew Smith | 53.7 | 7.88 | 4.53 | 0.67 | 98 | 0.4 | Hal Reniff |
| Jamie Callahan | 61.0 | 8.85 | 4.57 | 0.74 | 96 | 0.3 | Anthony Chavez |
| Seth Lugo | 119.7 | 7.37 | 2.41 | 1.58 | 81 | 0.3 | Greg Wooten |
| Neil Wagner | 44.7 | 8.05 | 4.43 | 0.81 | 95 | 0.3 | Milo Candini |
| Jacob Rhame | 63.7 | 10.03 | 3.11 | 1.41 | 93 | 0.3 | Chad Ricketts |
| Hansel Robles | 76.3 | 9.55 | 4.36 | 1.30 | 91 | 0.2 | Mark Acre |
| Tim Peterson | 51.7 | 8.88 | 2.96 | 1.39 | 91 | 0.1 | Jeff Tam |
| Kyle Regnault | 57.0 | 8.53 | 4.58 | 0.95 | 89 | 0.1 | Tippy Martinez |
| Josh Edgin | 39.0 | 8.08 | 5.08 | 0.92 | 90 | 0.1 | Bill Kennedy |
| Cory Burns | 55.3 | 7.97 | 3.91 | 1.14 | 88 | 0.1 | Mike Bumstead |
| Kevin McGowan | 76.0 | 7.58 | 3.55 | 1.30 | 86 | 0.0 | Todd Williams |
| Rafael Montero | 138.3 | 8.59 | 4.69 | 1.30 | 78 | 0.0 | Charlie Manning |
| Ricky Knapp | 153.0 | 5.12 | 2.59 | 1.35 | 77 | 0.0 | A.J. Sager |
| Tyler Bashlor | 50.7 | 11.01 | 6.21 | 1.07 | 85 | 0.0 | Jeff Smith |
| Jonathan Albaladejo | 46.7 | 6.36 | 3.28 | 1.35 | 79 | 0.0 | Bob Scanlan |
| Logan Taylor | 55.7 | 8.40 | 5.33 | 1.13 | 79 | -0.2 | Heathcliff Slocumb |
| Kelly Secrest | 47.7 | 8.49 | 5.85 | 1.13 | 77 | -0.3 | Jeff Ridgway |
| Erik Goeddel | 58.0 | 8.84 | 4.03 | 1.55 | 80 | -0.3 | James Warden |
| Tom Gorzelanny | 29.3 | 9.22 | 6.14 | 1.23 | 72 | -0.3 | Ernie Camacho |
| Tyler Pill | 115.0 | 6.03 | 2.97 | 1.64 | 73 | -0.4 | Pat Ahearne |
| Alberto Baldonado | 56.7 | 9.37 | 5.56 | 1.59 | 73 | -0.6 | Carlos Cabassa |
| Tommy Milone | 98.0 | 6.52 | 2.39 | 2.11 | 70 | -0.6 | Brian Tollberg |
| Luis Mateo | 53.3 | 7.26 | 4.22 | 1.86 | 69 | -0.7 | Mario Ramos |
| Blake Beavan | 74.3 | 5.45 | 2.91 | 1.94 | 67 | -0.7 | Mark Johnson |
| Mickey Jannis | 96.3 | 5.14 | 4.95 | 1.31 | 68 | -0.8 | Dick Fowler |
| Beck Wheeler | 57.3 | 8.64 | 6.13 | 1.73 | 66 | -1.0 | Marty McLeary |
| Donovan Hand | 115.3 | 5.31 | 2.81 | 1.87 | 68 | -1.0 | Allen Davis |
| Mitch Atkins | 89.3 | 6.85 | 3.73 | 2.22 | 61 | -1.5 | Nerio Rodriguez |
***
Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2017. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.24 ERA and the NL having a 4.18 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.
Doc Gooden. Oh my
Good to see the Mets have the next Turk Wendell.
And the next Heathcliff Slocumb! Now if we could just trade him for the next Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek
The greatest trade in the history of baseball!
Trading No, No, Nanette for Babe Ruth was a pretty good deal.
Even for the Red Sox, the Pedro Martinez trade is probably as good or better than the Lowe/Varitek deal.
This article is a joke war is not a real stat do you believe Harper and his 4 war only helped 2 more games than granderson ?
Much is made of the Mets starting pitching saga, and with good reason. But as a longtime fan, the number of question marks in the infield strikes me as the biggest issue.
1B: Is Smith ready to be the starter? If not, do the Mets spend for someone like Santana (unlikely given ownership) or go for a Lind/Duda type? If the latter, do they platoon him with Flores? A Flores/Lind combination would be a cheap way to get a 120 OPS+ from 1B, in my opinion.
2B: Can Flores handle it defensively? Or, if he slides over to 1B, do you bring back Reyes? Or move Cabrera off the hot corner?
SS: It’s Rosario’s position, and the glovework is there, but will he be an offensive liability? Plate discipline and pitch recognition was atrocious last year.
3B: Cabrera’s spot until David Wright ret–oh, who am I kidding.
I agree with you Loyd, it’s tough to decide what position to upgrade. It would be nice if Lagares and Rosario would break out with their bats.
Smith’s power was a positive even though he couldn’t get on base. I like Flores/Smith at 1B, while trying to bring in a 2B via free agency. One argument against signing Lind is what it Wright comes back, but can’t handle 3B. Hopefully DW provides positive WAR when/if he returns. He could easily be a drain on the lineup if his power and defense is sapped by the back injury.
It’s not hard to decide what spot needs the upgrade unless you still believe David Wright can play baseball every day.
War is not a real stat
If you want to finish in 4th place you bring back reyes he makes everyone worse
1 guy lead his team to the biggest collapses in history bleaches his hair pink purple and yellow beats up women laughs all day and every team with him becomes a disaster and is a big underachieving failure
The other guy focuses every pitch plays smart has a lot of character and heart will do anything to win is a champion and has won everyhwere he goes
One of these guys is Chase Utley the other is Jose Reyes scary how dumb some of you are there is a reason chase utley and the fighting phillies became champions while reyes the virus was the one who had the historic collapses was the one who finished 22 games under 500 in 2017 , was the one no team can win with , just ask the blue jays who after they got rid of the lunatic went to the alcs 2 years in a row
the very talented blue jays couldn’t win with Reyes in their locker room then they get rid of him and go to the Alcs 2 years in a row 2017 mets were supposed to be World Series contenders they ended up 22 games under 500 . Marlins 2012 had Hanley Ramirez mark burhle Stanton josh Johnson Jose Reyes they were supposed to be a playoff team they ended up 30 under 500. Biggest collapses in history with reyes in 2007 and 2008.
How can Harvey comp to a pitcher who never played in the majors? That seems a bit of an odd and foreboding omen. Dan might as well have comped Harvey to Sidd Finch, since he has the same amount of major league experience as Steve Finch.
I received 5 downvotes, but honestly can someone explain to me how ZIPS allows a major leaguer to comp to a guy who has never even had a cup of coffee? I’m being inquisitive, not argumentative.
I’m a bit disappointed that Seth Lugo’s comp isn’t Greg W00t3n.
If Conforto, Cespedes, Smith, and Rosario’s projections are collectively correct this is gonna be a brutal year for the Mets offense. It sure looks like the Mets are caught in the middle, wasting the benefit of having two top-of-the-line starters.
I don’t think they will, but they gotta go for it or rebuild.
The listed zWARs total 11.8 wins. Here are the top 4 players by fWAR from each 2017 team combined:
HOU 21.3
NYY 20.3
LAD 19.9
MIA 19.8
WSN 19.3
CIN 18.1
CLE 18.0
CHC 16.1
LAA 15.3
COL 15.2
STL 14.5
SEA 14.1
KCR 13.5
MIN 13.3
BOS 13.0
ATL 12.7
TBR 12.6
TEX 12.4
ARI 12.2
CHW 12.2
TOR 12.1
So, not so hot where 21 of 30 teams last year got more from their top 4 position players. And the other nine teams averaged just 72 wins.
But the 16 teams +/- 2.0 wins of the projected Mets figure did better, averaging 76.5 wins and the nine teams +/- 1.0 wins a little better at 78.0 wins.
And then looking at the top teams:
The top 7 were all 5.0+ wins better in this regard and that includes juggernauts, the Dodgers, Indians and Astros.
And it includes the 90+ win Nationals and Yankees. But it also included the Marlins and Reds, so I’m not sure I’d conclude it a death sentence just yet 🙂
War is a fake stat
You have to compare projected to projected. With the variance in these projections, the expected top 4 player WAR on the team is probably higher than 11.8, even if thats what the top 4 add up to
FWIW- the top six overall projected Mets, pitchers included [but ignoring pitcher offense] come in at 19.8 fWAR which would be 16th among the 30 2017 teams.
And the ten teams +/- 2.0 wins of that from their top 6 players averaged 83 wins
I imagine it brought Carson great joy to write this sentence:
“Among rookie-eligible field players, Gavin Cecchini (570, 1.0) receives the top projection.”
There is still a lot of quality pitching on the Mets, as long as everyone is healthy. I am worried about the batters and in particular about their defense. Hopefully Reyes is not brought back.
Somebody is going to have to explain to me how a 1B (Smith) with a 100 wRC+ and not known for his glove or baserunning is going to be worth 2.5 WAR. If you look at last year’s qualified leaders and sort by wRC+, the lowest wRC+ to exceed 2.0 WAR was Joe Mauer’s 116. Smith’s projected rate stats and wOBA don’t look all that different from Ryon Healy’s or Mitch Moreland’s or Chris Davis’ and none of those guys exceeded 1.0 WAR let alone 2.5 (& Moreland is actually decent with the glove). Looking at a sorted list from the last 17 years, I’m not seeing any guys around a 100 wRC+ that hit 2.5 WAR and only a few that exceeded 2.5 WAR and those guys tended to be great defensive 1B (Mientkiewicz and ERstad for example)
Same for Rosario and his 79 wRC+ unless he is INCREDIBLE with the glove. HIs projected numbers aren’t that different from Freddie Galvis who was also good with te glove and only had 1.6 WAR. Brandon Crawford was a little better hitter than Rosario’s projection and also good with the glove and he netted 2.0 WAR.
I’m going to re-read the article to see if I missed something but that doesn’t add up
I actually think they put the wrong names next to some of these numbers. The Def numbers in “Batters, Assorted Other” make no sense.
Agree
Yeah, Steamer/depth charts gives Smith 595 PA with a 93 wRC+, at 0.3 WAR. Hard to see 7 points of wRC+ being worth 2 wins, and Steamer credits him as a average baserunner/fielder (which might be optimistic).
They have Smith being worth +8 runs defensively
Yeah, I saw that. IN the last 17 years there has been exactly 1 season of a full-time 1B (ie, not including 2015 Buster Posey) being worth 8 or more runs – 2007 Albert Pujols. Only 4 other guys topped 5 runs. Adrian Gonzalez won 4 gold gloves and is acknowledged to have been an excellent defender – he topped out at 2.4 runs. Go back to 1969 and you can find 1 Keith Hernandez season and (oddly) a Rod Carew season where a 1B was worth 8 runs (again, ignoring 1999 Darin Erstad and 1983 Alan Wiggins who weren’t full-time 1B). We’re talking maybe 1,000 player seasons over 50 years and 3 guys topped 8 runs.
Call me crazy, but I’m thinking Dominic Smith ain’t worth 8 runs with the glove next year.
I don’t know that you’re looking at the numbers correctly. Adrian Gonzalez topped out at 2.4 runs after taking into account the position adjustment, but his UZR was 18.1 runs that year. I’d imagine the numbers in the chart above are his raw UZR and not the run value after the positional adjustment.
As for the original post and “not known for his glove”, he was absolutely known for his glove in the minors. Szymborski mentioned elsewhere that Zips thought Smith was the 2nd best defensive 1B in the minor leagues last year. Scouts thought he was great too. I have no idea what happened once he got called to the majors though.
Scouting reports I read said good hands, averagish range. Not what I would call known for your defense myself but that’s quibbling over semantics.
You may be right on defensive numbers in the chart, that they are unadjusted for position. Of course that would still make him the best defensive 1B in baseball right now (Mauer topped out at 7.1 UZR last year) but let’s say that is true. That still makes the defense component of his WAR something like -1 or -2 runs.
I stand by my original point – I don’t see how you get to 2.5 WAR as a 1B with a 100 wRC+ (or .322 wOBA, or 103 OPS+), even if you think he’s above average defensively.
I agree that it seems pretty optimistic, although you can get partially there by looking at the Depth Charts, where he’s at 0.3 WAR in just under 600 PA.
Depth Charts lists -5.9 runs of offense – but if he was a league average hitter, then he’d have 0 runs. So that brings him to 0.9 WAR.
Depth Charts lists -10.8 runs. If he’s closer to -1 run, then you give him an addition 10 runs. That brings him to 1.9 WAR. Add 10% for playing time (the chart lists over 650 PA for him), and you’re up around 2.1 WAR. Not quite 2.5, but it’s most of the way there.
I really have no idea if he can be that good defensively, but it doesn’t quite assume that he’s the best in the league. Belt had 7.6 runs on defense, but he didn’t show up in the leaderboard due to playing time. If you filter by ~150 innings and look at UZR/150 (since Smith is projected to play every day) then there are 5 1B with more than 8 runs. But again, it does seem a little strange to project him to be that good when a) he’s terribly out of shape, and b) he was so bad in the majors last year.
Hey, round is a shape 🙂
Good call -I guess I can see how you get partway there with some of the adjustments. Still seems high though.
You can’t use UZR/150 over that small of a sample vivalajeter.
When a pitcher who has never pitched a major league game is comped to a Hall of Famer with 300 wins there is some ‘splainin’ to do.
It’s been ‘splained plenty of times. He’s not getting comped to peak Early Wynn. He’s getting comped to 1939 Early Wynn. Early Early Wynn, not 300-win Wynn, if you will.
WAR IS NOT A REAL STAT
the very talented blue jays couldn’t win with Reyes in their locker room then they get rid of him and go to the Alcs 2 years in a row 2017 mets were supposed to be World Series contenders they ended up 22 games under 500 . Marlins 2012 had Hanley Ramirez mark burhle Stanton josh Johnson Jose Reyes they were supposed to be a playoff team they ended up 30 under 500. Biggest collapses in history with reyes in 2007 and 2008!
On April 27 2017 mets had an era of 3.9 the nationals had an era of 4.5 yet the nationals had a 7 game lead already over the mets Mets were a disaster from day 1 they were awful before injuries which proves JOSE REYES the guy who lead mets to the collapses of 2007 and 2008 destroyed the season the team was going nowhere in 2017 they were an underperforming disaster