2018 ZiPS Projections – San Francisco Giants
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the San Francisco Giants. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
Batters
“Baseball’s biggest disappointment,” is how Jeff Sullivan characterized the 2017 Giants back at the end of September. And not without reason: the club produced the league’s worst record relative to the preseason projections, a development expressed in graphic form just below.
On the one hand, that’s bad for the 2017 Giants. On the other, though, it’s probably good for the 2018 version of the club. The Giants are likely due — due perhaps more than any other team — for positive regression. Even if San Francisco were to field precisely the same roster this next season, that same precise roster would almost certainly outperform its disappointing predecessor.
The ZiPS projections appear to support this hypothesis. Here, for example, are the forecasts for San Francisco’s top-four returning hitters:
| Player | 2017 PA | 2017 WAR | 2018 zPA | 2018 zWAR | PA Diff | WAR Diff |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buster Posey | 568 | 4.3 | 534 | 4.9 | -34 | 0.6 |
| Brandon Crawford | 570 | 2.0 | 567 | 3.5 | -3 | 1.5 |
| Brandon Belt | 451 | 2.3 | 503 | 3.3 | 52 | 1.0 |
| Joe Panik | 573 | 2.0 | 571 | 3.0 | -2 | 1.0 |
| Average | 541 | 2.7 | 544 | 3.7 | 3 | 1.0 |
The core returning members of the Giants’ offense — Brandon Belt, Brandon Crawford, Joe Panik, and Buster Posey — are projected, on average, to produce an additional win each in 2018. That’s in roughly the same number of plate appearances as 2017, as well, meaning that ZiPS is calling for all four simply to play better this season.
This isn’t to say the club’s field-playing cohort is without flaw. No outfielder, for example, is projected even to produce an average season. Nevertheless, a combination of positive regression and Evan Longoria (645 PA, 3.1 zWAR) ought to facilitate easy improvement over last year’s performance.
Pitchers
Even with something more like a full season of Madison Bumgarner (166.1 IP, 2.8 zWAR), the prognosis for the pitching staff isn’t quite as encouraging. The left-hander recorded a 22.4% strikeout rate during his 17 healthy starts last year, his lowest mark since 2010, when the the league-average rate was three points lower than in 2017. ZiPS calls for only a minor rebound in that department, up to 24.7%. The overall forecast remains quite strong, of course, just not necessarily in the context of Bumgarner’s established levels.
Johnny Cueto (174.0, 2.7) and Jeff Samardzija (177.2, 2.4) join Bumgarner atop the rotation. After that triumvirate, however, there’s little substance. Ty Blach (153.0, 0.6) and Chris Stratton (127.1, 0.4) are forecast for just a win between them in something approaching a full complement of starter’s innings. Few, if any, legitimate alternatives exist at the moment.
In the bullpen, Mark Melancon (50.0 IP, 65 ERA-, 1.1 zWAR) returns to close games and, if Dan Szymborski’s computer is to be believed, ought to bear greater resemblance to the pitcher whom San Francisco signed last offseason than the one who posted a worse-than-average ERA in 2017. Hunter Strickland (60.1, 79 ERA-, 0.9), meanwhile, joins Melancon as one of two Giants relievers forecast to prevent runs at a rate that’s at least 20% better than average.
Bench/Prospects
While Gorkys Hernandez (413 PA, 0.7 zWAR) is denoted as the team’s starting center field in the depth-chart graphic below, that distinction could also fall to Steven Duggar (457, -0.3), although the projections favor the former at the moment. The Giants signed former Pittsburgh farmhand Alen Hanson (434, 1.1) to a minor-league deal in December. Hanson receives the top forecast of the likely non-starters.
Will Smith (39.2 IP, 77 ERA-, 0.6 zWAR) is omitted from the depth chart due to his rehab from Tommy John surgery. He would represent a formidable addition to the back end of the bullpen, however. He’s attempting to come back by Opening Day. Even an average return time, though, would place his likely return in May.
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Giants, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to enlarge image.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buster Posey | R | 31 | C | 534 | 60 | 140 | 26 | 1 | 13 | 68 | 5 | 1 |
| Brandon Crawford | L | 31 | SS | 567 | 59 | 131 | 28 | 5 | 15 | 80 | 4 | 4 |
| Brandon Belt | L | 30 | 1B | 503 | 66 | 110 | 27 | 4 | 18 | 63 | 4 | 3 |
| Evan Longoria | R | 32 | 3B | 645 | 69 | 161 | 38 | 3 | 21 | 84 | 3 | 2 |
| Joe Panik | L | 27 | 2B | 571 | 69 | 147 | 27 | 5 | 10 | 60 | 4 | 1 |
| Alen Hanson | B | 25 | 2B | 434 | 51 | 97 | 16 | 9 | 8 | 37 | 20 | 9 |
| Jarrett Parker | L | 29 | LF | 392 | 46 | 80 | 16 | 2 | 13 | 46 | 6 | 4 |
| Jae-Gyun Hwang | R | 30 | 3B | 496 | 49 | 111 | 23 | 3 | 12 | 54 | 8 | 5 |
| Kelby Tomlinson | R | 28 | 2B | 438 | 48 | 100 | 13 | 3 | 2 | 28 | 20 | 6 |
| Gorkys Hernandez | R | 30 | CF | 413 | 44 | 90 | 19 | 2 | 4 | 31 | 12 | 5 |
| Hunter Pence | R | 35 | RF | 474 | 55 | 109 | 17 | 4 | 13 | 58 | 3 | 3 |
| Slade Heathcott | L | 27 | CF | 412 | 43 | 84 | 15 | 4 | 9 | 38 | 7 | 5 |
| Ryder Jones | L | 24 | 3B | 473 | 49 | 103 | 23 | 3 | 12 | 47 | 5 | 1 |
| Austin Slater | R | 25 | LF | 420 | 45 | 97 | 17 | 1 | 10 | 44 | 4 | 4 |
| Aramis Garcia | R | 25 | C | 409 | 39 | 84 | 18 | 1 | 10 | 43 | 0 | 0 |
| Hector Sanchez | B | 28 | C | 196 | 20 | 43 | 9 | 0 | 8 | 32 | 0 | 0 |
| Chris Marrero | R | 29 | 1B | 442 | 48 | 100 | 21 | 2 | 15 | 49 | 1 | 0 |
| Jerry Sands | R | 30 | 1B | 313 | 32 | 66 | 12 | 2 | 8 | 34 | 1 | 1 |
| Aaron Hill | R | 36 | 2B | 313 | 31 | 67 | 12 | 1 | 5 | 31 | 3 | 1 |
| Bryan Reynolds | B | 23 | CF | 517 | 54 | 109 | 21 | 5 | 9 | 51 | 3 | 2 |
| Juniel Querecuto | B | 25 | SS | 376 | 34 | 81 | 13 | 2 | 3 | 28 | 4 | 3 |
| Mac Williamson | R | 27 | RF | 461 | 52 | 98 | 21 | 1 | 15 | 52 | 4 | 2 |
| Miguel Gomez | B | 25 | 2B | 403 | 42 | 103 | 18 | 2 | 9 | 44 | 1 | 1 |
| Wynton Bernard | R | 27 | CF | 426 | 43 | 95 | 17 | 3 | 5 | 31 | 20 | 7 |
| Conor Gillaspie | L | 30 | 3B | 270 | 25 | 65 | 15 | 2 | 5 | 29 | 1 | 2 |
| Ali Castillo | R | 29 | 2B | 396 | 33 | 90 | 14 | 2 | 1 | 27 | 8 | 5 |
| Orlando Calixte | R | 26 | RF | 468 | 47 | 102 | 17 | 3 | 10 | 43 | 15 | 4 |
| Michael Morse | R | 36 | 1B | 274 | 20 | 57 | 12 | 1 | 8 | 26 | 0 | 0 |
| C.J. Hinojosa | R | 23 | SS | 489 | 47 | 104 | 17 | 2 | 6 | 38 | 5 | 5 |
| Chris Shaw | L | 24 | LF | 541 | 58 | 118 | 28 | 2 | 19 | 64 | 0 | 0 |
| Justin Ruggiano | R | 36 | LF | 240 | 24 | 51 | 11 | 1 | 7 | 25 | 3 | 3 |
| Ryan Howard | R | 23 | SS | 554 | 51 | 133 | 18 | 0 | 7 | 43 | 5 | 3 |
| Pablo Sandoval | B | 31 | 3B | 424 | 41 | 98 | 18 | 1 | 10 | 45 | 0 | 1 |
| Nick Hundley | R | 34 | C | 304 | 26 | 66 | 16 | 1 | 7 | 32 | 1 | 1 |
| Josh Rutledge | R | 29 | 3B | 290 | 31 | 59 | 11 | 2 | 3 | 22 | 3 | 1 |
| Steven Duggar | L | 24 | RF | 457 | 47 | 89 | 17 | 3 | 8 | 37 | 11 | 8 |
| Heath Quinn | R | 23 | RF | 325 | 31 | 63 | 11 | 1 | 8 | 29 | 1 | 0 |
| Chase d’Arnaud | R | 31 | 2B | 374 | 40 | 79 | 14 | 4 | 3 | 28 | 16 | 6 |
| Carlos Moncrief | L | 29 | RF | 316 | 31 | 63 | 14 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 5 | 2 |
| Ryan Lollis | L | 31 | 1B | 396 | 35 | 86 | 14 | 2 | 3 | 28 | 4 | 1 |
| Juan Ciriaco | R | 34 | 2B | 233 | 21 | 51 | 10 | 1 | 3 | 20 | 7 | 1 |
| Luigi Rodriguez | L | 25 | LF | 340 | 32 | 66 | 13 | 2 | 9 | 31 | 8 | 7 |
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| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | wRC+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buster Posey | 534 | 9.7% | 11.2% | .142 | .314 | .297 | .369 | .439 | .343 | 113 |
| Brandon Crawford | 567 | 8.3% | 19.9% | .163 | .299 | .258 | .321 | .421 | .313 | 94 |
| Brandon Belt | 503 | 13.9% | 24.3% | .208 | .317 | .258 | .364 | .466 | .354 | 121 |
| Evan Longoria | 645 | 6.4% | 17.2% | .181 | .299 | .272 | .319 | .453 | .325 | 101 |
| Joe Panik | 571 | 8.1% | 9.8% | .131 | .304 | .288 | .349 | .419 | .329 | 104 |
| Alen Hanson | 434 | 5.5% | 21.0% | .145 | .292 | .242 | .284 | .387 | .286 | 76 |
| Jarrett Parker | 392 | 9.4% | 32.1% | .169 | .316 | .229 | .309 | .397 | .304 | 88 |
| Jae-Gyun Hwang | 496 | 6.0% | 24.2% | .142 | .299 | .242 | .289 | .384 | .287 | 77 |
| Kelby Tomlinson | 438 | 8.2% | 18.3% | .064 | .312 | .254 | .320 | .318 | .283 | 74 |
| Gorkys Hernandez | 413 | 8.2% | 20.6% | .094 | .303 | .243 | .310 | .337 | .284 | 75 |
| Hunter Pence | 474 | 7.4% | 19.8% | .147 | .291 | .251 | .308 | .399 | .304 | 88 |
| Slade Heathcott | 412 | 7.8% | 30.8% | .135 | .318 | .227 | .294 | .362 | .286 | 76 |
| Ryder Jones | 473 | 5.9% | 23.9% | .150 | .291 | .237 | .290 | .387 | .290 | 78 |
| Austin Slater | 420 | 7.1% | 23.8% | .128 | .315 | .253 | .310 | .380 | .300 | 85 |
| Aramis Garcia | 409 | 5.4% | 28.6% | .131 | .289 | .220 | .269 | .352 | .269 | 65 |
| Hector Sanchez | 196 | 5.1% | 26.5% | .180 | .280 | .235 | .276 | .415 | .291 | 79 |
| Chris Marrero | 442 | 6.1% | 22.2% | .172 | .284 | .245 | .294 | .417 | .302 | 87 |
| Jerry Sands | 313 | 9.3% | 24.0% | .143 | .291 | .236 | .308 | .379 | .297 | 83 |
| Aaron Hill | 313 | 8.3% | 17.9% | .104 | .278 | .239 | .307 | .343 | .284 | 75 |
| Bryan Reynolds | 517 | 5.2% | 25.0% | .120 | .288 | .226 | .271 | .346 | .266 | 63 |
| Juniel Querecuto | 376 | 5.9% | 21.0% | .075 | .292 | .233 | .282 | .308 | .259 | 58 |
| Mac Williamson | 461 | 6.7% | 29.3% | .161 | .303 | .232 | .293 | .393 | .294 | 81 |
| Miguel Gomez | 403 | 2.7% | 14.6% | .126 | .292 | .265 | .286 | .392 | .289 | 78 |
| Wynton Bernard | 426 | 5.6% | 20.0% | .097 | .296 | .242 | .290 | .338 | .275 | 69 |
| Conor Gillaspie | 270 | 5.6% | 13.3% | .135 | .282 | .258 | .300 | .393 | .294 | 82 |
| Ali Castillo | 396 | 4.3% | 12.1% | .057 | .274 | .243 | .277 | .299 | .253 | 55 |
| Orlando Calixte | 468 | 5.1% | 24.6% | .121 | .293 | .233 | .272 | .355 | .270 | 66 |
| Michael Morse | 274 | 7.3% | 31.0% | .153 | .312 | .230 | .296 | .383 | .294 | 81 |
| C.J. Hinojosa | 489 | 6.3% | 15.5% | .087 | .266 | .233 | .283 | .320 | .264 | 61 |
| Chris Shaw | 541 | 6.1% | 29.9% | .178 | .307 | .236 | .287 | .414 | .297 | 83 |
| Justin Ruggiano | 240 | 6.3% | 26.7% | .155 | .291 | .232 | .288 | .386 | .290 | 79 |
| Ryan Howard | 554 | 3.2% | 16.2% | .074 | .292 | .254 | .283 | .328 | .266 | 63 |
| Pablo Sandoval | 424 | 5.9% | 16.5% | .128 | .278 | .250 | .297 | .378 | .289 | 78 |
| Nick Hundley | 304 | 5.3% | 26.0% | .137 | .294 | .232 | .271 | .368 | .271 | 66 |
| Josh Rutledge | 290 | 6.9% | 27.2% | .091 | .306 | .224 | .287 | .316 | .265 | 62 |
| Steven Duggar | 457 | 9.6% | 30.6% | .115 | .308 | .218 | .295 | .333 | .277 | 70 |
| Heath Quinn | 325 | 6.2% | 33.2% | .123 | .297 | .210 | .268 | .333 | .263 | 61 |
| Chase d’Arnaud | 374 | 5.9% | 20.9% | .090 | .286 | .229 | .282 | .319 | .263 | 61 |
| Carlos Moncrief | 316 | 8.2% | 27.2% | .119 | .292 | .221 | .287 | .340 | .272 | 67 |
| Ryan Lollis | 396 | 5.8% | 14.9% | .074 | .270 | .235 | .282 | .309 | .259 | 58 |
| Juan Ciriaco | 233 | 4.7% | 20.2% | .096 | .282 | .234 | .268 | .330 | .257 | 57 |
| Luigi Rodriguez | 340 | 5.0% | 37.4% | .138 | .310 | .208 | .249 | .346 | .254 | 55 |
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| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Madison Bumgarner | L | 28 | 26 | 26 | 166.3 | 169 | 34 | 23 | 151 | 68 | 64 |
| Johnny Cueto | R | 32 | 28 | 28 | 174.0 | 155 | 48 | 20 | 163 | 75 | 70 |
| Jeff Samardzija | R | 33 | 28 | 28 | 177.3 | 163 | 35 | 22 | 170 | 80 | 75 |
| Mark Melancon | R | 33 | 53 | 0 | 50.0 | 48 | 9 | 3 | 44 | 16 | 15 |
| Hunter Strickland | R | 29 | 67 | 0 | 60.3 | 58 | 21 | 5 | 54 | 24 | 22 |
| Matt Gage | L | 25 | 25 | 25 | 139.3 | 87 | 41 | 14 | 156 | 73 | 68 |
| Andrew Suarez | L | 25 | 25 | 23 | 143.3 | 112 | 39 | 21 | 156 | 76 | 71 |
| D.J. Snelten | L | 26 | 53 | 0 | 69.3 | 57 | 28 | 4 | 67 | 29 | 27 |
| Derek Law | R | 27 | 64 | 0 | 65.3 | 57 | 24 | 4 | 63 | 28 | 26 |
| Will Smith | L | 28 | 48 | 0 | 39.7 | 48 | 19 | 3 | 34 | 15 | 14 |
| Ty Blach | L | 27 | 31 | 24 | 153.0 | 83 | 41 | 18 | 172 | 83 | 78 |
| Cory Gearrin | R | 32 | 60 | 0 | 56.3 | 55 | 26 | 5 | 51 | 25 | 23 |
| Chris Stratton | R | 27 | 26 | 23 | 127.3 | 101 | 54 | 16 | 135 | 71 | 66 |
| Sam Dyson | R | 30 | 63 | 0 | 63.0 | 48 | 25 | 5 | 63 | 30 | 28 |
| Tyler Beede | R | 25 | 19 | 19 | 103.7 | 73 | 41 | 13 | 114 | 58 | 54 |
| Kraig Sitton | L | 29 | 45 | 1 | 58.7 | 36 | 18 | 5 | 63 | 29 | 27 |
| Tyler Rogers | R | 27 | 56 | 0 | 71.3 | 44 | 32 | 5 | 75 | 35 | 33 |
| Tyler Herb | R | 26 | 25 | 24 | 136.7 | 98 | 61 | 17 | 148 | 79 | 74 |
| Tyler Cyr | R | 25 | 46 | 0 | 54.3 | 55 | 31 | 5 | 51 | 27 | 25 |
| Matt Reynolds | L | 33 | 34 | 0 | 33.3 | 28 | 11 | 4 | 34 | 16 | 15 |
| Cory Taylor | R | 24 | 25 | 24 | 119.0 | 88 | 60 | 14 | 127 | 68 | 64 |
| Julian Fernandez | R | 22 | 51 | 0 | 53.3 | 41 | 32 | 3 | 52 | 27 | 25 |
| Kyle Crick | R | 25 | 58 | 0 | 57.3 | 61 | 42 | 4 | 49 | 29 | 27 |
| Pierce Johnson | R | 27 | 33 | 7 | 64.0 | 73 | 40 | 9 | 59 | 35 | 33 |
| Albert Suarez | R | 28 | 26 | 15 | 94.0 | 74 | 31 | 16 | 101 | 55 | 51 |
| Chase Johnson | R | 26 | 21 | 15 | 80.0 | 59 | 38 | 10 | 86 | 46 | 43 |
| Steven Okert | L | 26 | 64 | 0 | 55.3 | 54 | 22 | 8 | 55 | 29 | 27 |
| Reyes Moronta | R | 25 | 48 | 0 | 47.0 | 59 | 29 | 6 | 41 | 25 | 23 |
| Rodolfo Martinez | R | 24 | 37 | 0 | 36.3 | 25 | 16 | 3 | 38 | 19 | 18 |
| Ryan Webb | R | 32 | 31 | 0 | 33.7 | 22 | 13 | 3 | 36 | 18 | 17 |
| Bryan Morris | R | 31 | 40 | 0 | 38.0 | 30 | 19 | 5 | 40 | 21 | 20 |
| Sam Coonrod | R | 25 | 24 | 20 | 105.0 | 80 | 56 | 14 | 112 | 63 | 59 |
| Roberto Gomez | R | 28 | 34 | 14 | 93.3 | 66 | 43 | 12 | 103 | 56 | 52 |
| Collin Balester | R | 32 | 29 | 1 | 41.7 | 34 | 19 | 6 | 44 | 25 | 23 |
| Carlos Alvarado | R | 28 | 41 | 0 | 52.3 | 53 | 27 | 8 | 53 | 30 | 28 |
| Casey Kelly | R | 28 | 21 | 17 | 94.0 | 66 | 39 | 14 | 105 | 58 | 54 |
| Joan Gregorio | R | 26 | 20 | 17 | 86.0 | 80 | 46 | 14 | 89 | 54 | 50 |
| Josh Osich | L | 29 | 63 | 0 | 52.0 | 47 | 29 | 7 | 52 | 31 | 29 |
| Jose Valdez | R | 28 | 51 | 0 | 59.0 | 56 | 33 | 9 | 59 | 35 | 33 |
| Sam Wolff | R | 27 | 30 | 8 | 58.0 | 56 | 34 | 10 | 59 | 37 | 35 |
| Ryan Halstead | R | 26 | 46 | 0 | 47.0 | 39 | 12 | 10 | 53 | 29 | 27 |
| Dusten Knight | R | 27 | 39 | 2 | 69.7 | 66 | 34 | 12 | 72 | 43 | 40 |
| Seth Rosin | R | 29 | 32 | 1 | 41.3 | 33 | 15 | 9 | 47 | 28 | 26 |
| Vic Black | R | 30 | 36 | 0 | 38.0 | 32 | 41 | 5 | 38 | 29 | 27 |
| Jordan Johnson | R | 24 | 21 | 16 | 88.0 | 63 | 45 | 17 | 101 | 61 | 57 |
| Matt Cain | R | 33 | 23 | 20 | 106.3 | 70 | 39 | 21 | 127 | 73 | 68 |
| Dan Slania | R | 26 | 30 | 20 | 118.0 | 90 | 54 | 22 | 134 | 79 | 74 |
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| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Madison Bumgarner | 166.3 | 684 | 24.7% | 5.0% | .283 | 3.46 | 3.61 | 83 | 88 |
| Johnny Cueto | 174.0 | 733 | 21.1% | 6.5% | .285 | 3.62 | 3.82 | 87 | 93 |
| Jeff Samardzija | 177.3 | 737 | 22.1% | 4.7% | .290 | 3.81 | 3.59 | 92 | 87 |
| Mark Melancon | 50.0 | 203 | 23.6% | 4.4% | .289 | 2.70 | 2.62 | 65 | 64 |
| Hunter Strickland | 60.3 | 256 | 22.7% | 8.2% | .288 | 3.28 | 3.36 | 79 | 82 |
| Matt Gage | 139.3 | 615 | 14.1% | 6.7% | .305 | 4.39 | 4.23 | 106 | 103 |
| Andrew Suarez | 143.3 | 625 | 17.9% | 6.2% | .303 | 4.46 | 4.46 | 107 | 108 |
| D.J. Snelten | 69.3 | 303 | 18.8% | 9.2% | .300 | 3.50 | 3.60 | 84 | 88 |
| Derek Law | 65.3 | 283 | 20.1% | 8.5% | .301 | 3.58 | 3.31 | 86 | 80 |
| Will Smith | 39.7 | 172 | 27.9% | 11.0% | .307 | 3.18 | 3.08 | 77 | 75 |
| Ty Blach | 153.0 | 672 | 12.4% | 6.1% | .293 | 4.59 | 4.48 | 111 | 109 |
| Cory Gearrin | 56.3 | 246 | 22.4% | 10.6% | .295 | 3.67 | 3.80 | 89 | 92 |
| Chris Stratton | 127.3 | 571 | 17.7% | 9.5% | .302 | 4.66 | 4.62 | 112 | 112 |
| Sam Dyson | 63.0 | 277 | 17.3% | 9.0% | .296 | 4.00 | 3.86 | 96 | 94 |
| Tyler Beede | 103.7 | 466 | 15.7% | 8.8% | .302 | 4.69 | 4.71 | 113 | 115 |
| Kraig Sitton | 58.7 | 257 | 14.0% | 7.0% | .297 | 4.14 | 4.06 | 100 | 99 |
| Tyler Rogers | 71.3 | 321 | 13.7% | 10.0% | .297 | 4.16 | 4.27 | 100 | 104 |
| Tyler Herb | 136.7 | 619 | 15.8% | 9.9% | .301 | 4.87 | 4.86 | 117 | 118 |
| Tyler Cyr | 54.3 | 245 | 22.4% | 12.7% | .305 | 4.14 | 4.15 | 100 | 101 |
| Matt Reynolds | 33.3 | 145 | 19.3% | 7.6% | .297 | 4.05 | 4.03 | 98 | 98 |
| Cory Taylor | 119.0 | 544 | 16.2% | 11.0% | .302 | 4.84 | 4.90 | 117 | 119 |
| Julian Fernandez | 53.3 | 244 | 16.8% | 13.1% | .297 | 4.22 | 4.32 | 102 | 105 |
| Kyle Crick | 57.3 | 263 | 23.2% | 16.0% | .294 | 4.24 | 4.19 | 102 | 102 |
| Pierce Johnson | 64.0 | 291 | 25.1% | 13.7% | .303 | 4.64 | 4.77 | 112 | 116 |
| Albert Suarez | 94.0 | 414 | 17.9% | 7.5% | .295 | 4.88 | 4.85 | 118 | 118 |
| Chase Johnson | 80.0 | 364 | 16.2% | 10.4% | .302 | 4.84 | 4.92 | 117 | 120 |
| Steven Okert | 55.3 | 243 | 22.2% | 9.1% | .301 | 4.39 | 4.33 | 106 | 105 |
| Reyes Moronta | 47.0 | 211 | 28.0% | 13.7% | .307 | 4.40 | 4.29 | 106 | 104 |
| Rodolfo Martinez | 36.3 | 163 | 15.3% | 9.8% | .299 | 4.46 | 4.26 | 107 | 104 |
| Ryan Webb | 33.7 | 150 | 14.7% | 8.7% | .297 | 4.54 | 4.08 | 109 | 99 |
| Bryan Morris | 38.0 | 173 | 17.3% | 11.0% | .299 | 4.74 | 4.79 | 114 | 116 |
| Sam Coonrod | 105.0 | 483 | 16.6% | 11.6% | .300 | 5.06 | 5.11 | 122 | 124 |
| Roberto Gomez | 93.3 | 426 | 15.5% | 10.1% | .303 | 5.01 | 4.93 | 121 | 120 |
| Collin Balester | 41.7 | 188 | 18.1% | 10.1% | .299 | 4.97 | 4.91 | 120 | 119 |
| Carlos Alvarado | 52.3 | 237 | 22.4% | 11.4% | .308 | 4.82 | 4.78 | 116 | 116 |
| Casey Kelly | 94.0 | 426 | 15.5% | 9.2% | .302 | 5.17 | 5.06 | 125 | 123 |
| Joan Gregorio | 86.0 | 393 | 20.4% | 11.7% | .301 | 5.23 | 5.12 | 126 | 125 |
| Josh Osich | 52.0 | 237 | 19.8% | 12.2% | .296 | 5.02 | 4.83 | 121 | 117 |
| Jose Valdez | 59.0 | 269 | 20.8% | 12.3% | .298 | 5.03 | 5.02 | 121 | 122 |
| Sam Wolff | 58.0 | 267 | 21.0% | 12.7% | .301 | 5.43 | 5.33 | 131 | 130 |
| Ryan Halstead | 47.0 | 206 | 18.9% | 5.8% | .303 | 5.17 | 5.22 | 125 | 127 |
| Dusten Knight | 69.7 | 315 | 21.0% | 10.8% | .302 | 5.17 | 5.14 | 124 | 125 |
| Seth Rosin | 41.3 | 186 | 17.7% | 8.1% | .299 | 5.66 | 5.55 | 136 | 135 |
| Vic Black | 38.0 | 193 | 16.6% | 21.2% | .295 | 6.39 | 6.50 | 154 | 158 |
| Jordan Johnson | 88.0 | 410 | 15.4% | 11.0% | .300 | 5.83 | 5.94 | 140 | 144 |
| Matt Cain | 106.3 | 485 | 14.4% | 8.0% | .302 | 5.76 | 5.54 | 139 | 135 |
| Dan Slania | 118.0 | 542 | 16.6% | 10.0% | .304 | 5.64 | 5.58 | 136 | 136 |
***
| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Madison Bumgarner | 166.3 | 9.14 | 1.84 | 1.24 | 112 | 2.8 | John Candelaria |
| Johnny Cueto | 174.0 | 8.02 | 2.48 | 1.03 | 107 | 2.7 | Bob Forsch |
| Jeff Samardzija | 177.3 | 8.27 | 1.78 | 1.12 | 104 | 2.4 | Matt Morris |
| Mark Melancon | 50.0 | 8.64 | 1.62 | 0.54 | 144 | 1.1 | Carl Willis |
| Hunter Strickland | 60.3 | 8.65 | 3.13 | 0.75 | 118 | 0.9 | Greg Minton |
| Matt Gage | 139.3 | 5.62 | 2.65 | 0.90 | 89 | 0.9 | Jeff Johnson |
| Andrew Suarez | 143.3 | 7.03 | 2.45 | 1.32 | 87 | 0.8 | Bobby Livingston |
| D.J. Snelten | 69.3 | 7.40 | 3.63 | 0.52 | 111 | 0.8 | Darold Knowles |
| Derek Law | 65.3 | 7.85 | 3.31 | 0.55 | 109 | 0.7 | Todd Williams |
| Will Smith | 39.7 | 10.89 | 4.31 | 0.68 | 122 | 0.6 | Hector Mercado |
| Ty Blach | 153.0 | 4.88 | 2.41 | 1.06 | 85 | 0.6 | Jerry Augustine |
| Cory Gearrin | 56.3 | 8.79 | 4.15 | 0.80 | 106 | 0.5 | Jim Hughes |
| Chris Stratton | 127.3 | 7.14 | 3.82 | 1.13 | 83 | 0.4 | Sean White |
| Sam Dyson | 63.0 | 6.86 | 3.57 | 0.71 | 97 | 0.4 | Bruce Dal Canton |
| Tyler Beede | 103.7 | 6.34 | 3.56 | 1.13 | 83 | 0.3 | Jake Joseph |
| Kraig Sitton | 58.7 | 5.52 | 2.76 | 0.77 | 94 | 0.2 | Dave Tomlin |
| Tyler Rogers | 71.3 | 5.55 | 4.04 | 0.63 | 93 | 0.2 | Charlie Williams |
| Tyler Herb | 136.7 | 6.45 | 4.02 | 1.12 | 81 | 0.2 | Mike Hansen |
| Tyler Cyr | 54.3 | 9.11 | 5.13 | 0.83 | 94 | 0.2 | Anthony Chavez |
| Matt Reynolds | 33.3 | 7.56 | 2.97 | 1.08 | 96 | 0.1 | Jim Crowell |
| Cory Taylor | 119.0 | 6.66 | 4.54 | 1.06 | 80 | 0.1 | Rick Berg |
| Julian Fernandez | 53.3 | 6.92 | 5.40 | 0.51 | 92 | 0.1 | Hal Reniff |
| Kyle Crick | 57.3 | 9.58 | 6.59 | 0.63 | 92 | 0.1 | Clay Bryant |
| Pierce Johnson | 64.0 | 10.27 | 5.63 | 1.27 | 84 | 0.1 | Mike MacDougal |
| Albert Suarez | 94.0 | 7.09 | 2.97 | 1.53 | 81 | 0.1 | Scott Mitchell |
| Chase Johnson | 80.0 | 6.64 | 4.28 | 1.13 | 80 | 0.1 | Mark Calvert |
| Steven Okert | 55.3 | 8.78 | 3.58 | 1.30 | 89 | 0.0 | Ray Beasley |
| Reyes Moronta | 47.0 | 11.30 | 5.55 | 1.15 | 88 | 0.0 | Rafael Pimentel |
| Rodolfo Martinez | 36.3 | 6.19 | 3.96 | 0.74 | 87 | 0.0 | Felix Rodriguez |
| Ryan Webb | 33.7 | 5.88 | 3.48 | 0.80 | 87 | 0.0 | Milo Candini |
| Bryan Morris | 38.0 | 7.11 | 4.50 | 1.18 | 82 | -0.1 | Bucky Brandon |
| Sam Coonrod | 105.0 | 6.86 | 4.80 | 1.20 | 77 | -0.2 | Edwin Morel |
| Roberto Gomez | 93.3 | 6.36 | 4.15 | 1.16 | 78 | -0.2 | Timothy Smith |
| Collin Balester | 41.7 | 7.34 | 4.10 | 1.30 | 78 | -0.2 | Mike Sullivan |
| Carlos Alvarado | 52.3 | 9.11 | 4.64 | 1.38 | 81 | -0.3 | Kenny Marrero |
| Casey Kelly | 94.0 | 6.32 | 3.73 | 1.34 | 75 | -0.3 | John Webb |
| Joan Gregorio | 86.0 | 8.37 | 4.81 | 1.47 | 74 | -0.3 | Daron Kirkreit |
| Josh Osich | 52.0 | 8.13 | 5.02 | 1.21 | 77 | -0.4 | Tom Doyle |
| Jose Valdez | 59.0 | 8.54 | 5.03 | 1.37 | 78 | -0.4 | Mike James |
| Sam Wolff | 58.0 | 8.69 | 5.28 | 1.55 | 73 | -0.4 | Mumba Rivera |
| Ryan Halstead | 47.0 | 7.47 | 2.30 | 1.91 | 75 | -0.4 | Brian Woods |
| Dusten Knight | 69.7 | 8.53 | 4.39 | 1.55 | 75 | -0.5 | Bill Pulsipher |
| Seth Rosin | 41.3 | 7.19 | 3.27 | 1.96 | 70 | -0.6 | Ron Rightnowar |
| Vic Black | 38.0 | 7.58 | 9.71 | 1.18 | 61 | -0.9 | Dick Selma |
| Jordan Johnson | 88.0 | 6.44 | 4.60 | 1.74 | 67 | -0.9 | Jared Jensen |
| Matt Cain | 106.3 | 5.92 | 3.30 | 1.78 | 68 | -1.0 | R.A. Dickey |
| Dan Slania | 118.0 | 6.86 | 4.12 | 1.68 | 69 | -1.0 | David Walters |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2017. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.24 ERA and the NL having a 4.18 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
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I look forward to the Mariners signing Alen Hanson for $40M+ in his age 32 season coming off a career year, only to get Mariner’d again
Tyler Beede projects for 1.5 WAR if you give him 165 innings. My guess is that he earns a rotation slot early on, and is not awful.
If you triple the Steamer projections, as it appears you have, you do get 165 IP and 1.5 WAR for Beede. That also means 30 GS, so he would essentially have to make the rotation out of the gate and stay healthy all year. An obvious problem, though, is that Beede has never pitched in the majors. His numbers thus far in the minors are also not great. I think it is much more likely, barring a FA acquisition, that the 5th spot is more by committee, as Steamer projects:
Bumgarner 13-10, 32 GS, 207 IP, 3.67 ERA, 3.4 WAR
Samardzija 12-11, 32 GS, 202 IP, 3.75 ERA, 3.5 WAR
Cueto 11-10, 29 GS, 179 IP, 3.86 ERA, 2.5 WAR
Stratton 9-10, 28 GS, 154 IP, 4.30 ERA, 1.4 WAR
Blach 6-8, 19 GS, 115 IP, 4.52 ERA, 0.7 WAR
Beede 3-4, 10 GS, 55 IP, 4.26 ERA, 0.5 WAR
That accounts for 150 GS, leaving 12 more up in the air. Perhaps Suarez fills the gap. I still think it’s an improvement over Moore / Cain at the back of the rotation, but it doesn’t look like a playoff contender.
Does the projection include Strickland’s likely time missed in the Sin Bin?
Analytics and SF Giants don’t mix well
I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull a “2015 Rangers” and bounceback to the playoffs after a nightmarish season. Positive regression, less injuries, and a fresh start can lead them back to a Wild Card spot. They do, however, need to sign an outfielder and a starting pitcher. The fact that they’re letting several options just sit there is pretty baffling.
Signing an OF and a P that moves the needle would handcuff them even more money wise.
Yeah but the 2nd Wild Card only took 87 wins in the NL each of the last two years. They shouldn’t waste the good years remaining of Posey and Bumgarner when they’re an OF and SP away. Even if they were to go over cap this year (for a 2nd time in a row), they could get under in 2019 once Pence is off the books. They’re at $175 in commitments right now so they have wiggle room.
Either way, for the Giants to punt on this season the way that SD, CIN, PIT, MIA, PHI, Atl, already have would be quite stupid. The incentive is there. With only a couple of additions the talent is reasonably there. If they just go to camp ‘as is’ and hope for the best, they’re fools. This is a team that just paid off they’re stadium and have drawn over 3 million fans each year since 2010. The money is there.
Handcuff them to what? With the monstrous future commitments they have to aging players, it’s now or never. I wouldn’t think they’d be worried about 2020 or 2021 when they’ll surely be in even worse shape either way.
They already have well over 100 million committed to players in 2020. With a bad farm system they are already going to be in bad shape. But add 2 more big contracts to that, and lose draft picks would make their situation even worse.
Matt Cain retired
It’s a quirk with projection systems like Zips. Nothing to worry about
I always project a player in his first year of retirement.
So if he’s thinking about unretiring you give him a jolt of reality?
Bumgarner’s projections are a bit low, as they project 166 innings and he’s never been below 200 in a non-freak-injury full season. He should produce better than ZIPS suggests, especially if one attributes his declined K% to a fluke year of recovery. Likewise, Cueto’s struggles could be attributed to blisters and whatnot – if that changes (and we have no reason to think it would), he could be worth an extra win. Shark’s innings also are a bit low relative to what he’s done lately.
The infield looks to be one of the top 5 or 10 in baseball, especially defensively, which will help the pitchers.
As long as the outfield on opening day isn’t THIS outfield, it’s easy to squint and see a wild card contender… note: do not question the power of the squint – the fan tool for deriving not-too-outlandish optimism
I’m not sure if there is a way to inform ZiPS of the difference, but I imagine there future outlook for playing-related and off-field injuries would be really different. Aside from being kind of an ass, the latter type probably says relatively little about future injury problems, compared to the former.
The good side of that outfield is: it should be easy to upgrade! This is isn’t one of those teams where it’s hard to find the spots that you want to plug in a short-term improvement.
Steamer projects the Giants’ rotation for a total of 12 WAR (from 6 players) whereas ZiPS projects 9. I’m inclined to think Steamer is more realistic, not just optimistic. Interestingly, both project Bumgarner for a career-high ERA, which I do not really understand.
Career high ERA in a projected higher scoring environment should not be a surprise. 3.46/3.61 E/F in ZiPS’s 2018 season gives 83/88 ERA-/FIP-, in line with Bum’s career 81/85 E-/F-. As for peripheral explanations for a few % points of regression, ZiPS thinks Manfred’s juiced ball will hurt Bum more than he was used to. Which I would believe based on his 2017 HR/FB on 12.9% versus career 9.8 in addition to career high Hard% and career low Soft%. Steamer has a combination of HR/9 up, K% down, and LOB% down working together to give some regression.
I’m inclined to believe both about a regression, unless Bum can harness some extra deception to counteract the flyball powerdays that baseball seems to find itself in.
That is easily the most optimistic view of Alen Hanson I’m going to read this offseason. If he puts up 1.1 WAR this year and then turns himself into a Chone Figgins (3-win player on average with a ridiculous BABIP/BB%/baserunning combo) I would think the Giants would cry tears of joy.
I’m curious where that 1.1 WAR is coming from, since he’s projected for a 78 wRC+. He doesn’t really have a reputation as a great defender.
“I’m curious where that 1.1 WAR is coming from”
Perhaps Szymborski has built a special computer with an ass attached to it, from which that projection issues.