2018 ZiPS Projections – Los Angeles Dodgers
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
Batters
Dodger field players recorded the second-most WAR collectively in the majors this past season, and all but one (Chase Utley) of the club’s top-13 players from 2017 remains under contract for 2018. Unsurprisingly, the projections below are almost uniformly strong.
Both first baseman Cody Bellinger (607 PA, 4.4 zWAR) and shortstop Corey Seager (666, 5.7) remain subject to a Young Driver Surcharge when patronizing any of this country’s major rental-car providers. When not busy securing dependable transportation at a competitive rate, however, they occupy their time creating runs as professional ballplayers. ZiPS calls for that pair to produce roughly 10 wins just between the two of them in 2018.
If one is intent on identifying a weakness — or at least an uncertainty — within the depth chart, then left field appears to be the best candidate. Joc Pederson (475, 2.4) was optioned to Triple-A in mid-August and absent from much of the postseason, raising some questions about his job security with the present iteration of the club. Even he is forecast to produce wins at an above-average rate, however.
Pitchers
The Dodgers’ pitching staff was also one of the best in the majors this past season. As with the club’s hitting cohort, most of the principal actors from the NL championship team return in 2018. Clayton Kershaw (179.0 IP, 5.8 zWAR), unsurprisingly, receives the top projection, while three other starters — Rich Hill (115.2, 2.4), Kenta Maeda (150.2, 3.0), and Alex Wood (144.1, 2.6) — are forecast to record two or more wins. After that foursome is a surfeit of useful, if not wholly dependable, options, of which Hyun-Jin Ryu (112.2, 1.3) appears most likely to break camp as part of the rotation.
Only 12 relievers in the majors recorded two or more wins this past season. It was the same thing in 2016. In 2015, only nine of them reached the two-win threshold. All of which is to say that, while the projected win total for Kenley Jansen (63.0 IP, 55 ERA-, 2.2 zWAR) might appear modest, it’s actually pretty aggressive. The mean estimate for Jansen’s 2018 season places him among the top 10 or so pitchers by observed result. That’s impressive, which is why this entire paragraph about the Dodger bullpen is dedicated exclusively to Kenley Jansen.
Bench/Prospects
Whether it’s Austin Barnes (361 PA, 1.9 zWAR) or Yasmani Grandal (452, 2.8) who ultimately records more playing time for the Dodgers in 2018, the club is nearly certain to receive one of the league’s top contributions from a back-up catcher, as well. In the outfield, both Andrew Toles (363, 1.0) and Alex Verdugo (559, 0.9) profile as strong depth options; as left-handed batters, however, neither is a candidate to work in a platoon with Joc Pederson. Kiké Hernandez (344, 0.8) and minor leaguer Tim Locastro (550, 0.8) are both right-handed batters who’ve played all over the diamond.
Right-hander Trevor Oaks (141.0 IP, 1.8 zWAR) is absent from the top-10 lists published both by Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus this offseason; nevertheless, he receives the top WAR projection among those pitchers omitted from the depth-chart image below. Walker Buehler (93.2, 1.3), meanwhile, appears at the top of both those prospects lists. He’s also great and will suffice.
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Dodgers, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to enlarge image.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Corey Seager | L | 24 | SS | 666 | 92 | 175 | 40 | 3 | 25 | 99 | 5 | 2 |
| Cody Bellinger | L | 22 | 1B | 607 | 92 | 146 | 28 | 4 | 39 | 112 | 15 | 3 |
| Justin Turner | R | 33 | 3B | 515 | 64 | 131 | 29 | 1 | 18 | 73 | 6 | 1 |
| Yasiel Puig | R | 27 | RF | 548 | 69 | 130 | 24 | 4 | 23 | 78 | 11 | 6 |
| Yasmani Grandal | B | 29 | C | 452 | 48 | 93 | 19 | 1 | 22 | 67 | 1 | 1 |
| Chris Taylor | R | 27 | CF | 579 | 73 | 136 | 30 | 7 | 14 | 63 | 16 | 7 |
| Joc Pederson | L | 26 | CF | 475 | 63 | 93 | 21 | 1 | 22 | 62 | 9 | 5 |
| Logan Forsythe | R | 31 | 2B | 498 | 62 | 108 | 23 | 2 | 14 | 53 | 5 | 3 |
| Austin Barnes | R | 28 | C | 361 | 44 | 80 | 17 | 2 | 7 | 43 | 8 | 2 |
| Chase Utley | L | 39 | 2B | 385 | 49 | 86 | 19 | 4 | 8 | 38 | 5 | 1 |
| Andrew Toles | L | 26 | LF | 363 | 43 | 91 | 19 | 3 | 8 | 41 | 15 | 9 |
| Curtis Granderson | L | 37 | CF | 494 | 69 | 104 | 23 | 4 | 17 | 64 | 5 | 2 |
| Alex Verdugo | L | 22 | CF | 559 | 61 | 135 | 26 | 3 | 11 | 58 | 7 | 5 |
| Jose Miguel Fernandez | L | 30 | 2B | 405 | 48 | 96 | 18 | 0 | 10 | 44 | 0 | 2 |
| Tim Locastro | R | 25 | 2B | 550 | 62 | 128 | 23 | 4 | 8 | 47 | 24 | 8 |
| Kiké Hernandez | R | 26 | CF | 344 | 42 | 73 | 18 | 2 | 11 | 38 | 3 | 1 |
| Kyle Farmer | R | 27 | C | 411 | 41 | 91 | 22 | 3 | 7 | 43 | 2 | 2 |
| Blake Gailen | L | 33 | CF | 215 | 24 | 45 | 10 | 1 | 7 | 27 | 3 | 2 |
| Franklin Gutierrez | R | 35 | LF | 255 | 31 | 56 | 12 | 0 | 12 | 39 | 1 | 1 |
| O’Koyea Dickson | R | 28 | LF | 444 | 55 | 98 | 24 | 1 | 19 | 65 | 3 | 2 |
| Trayce Thompson | R | 27 | CF | 445 | 49 | 87 | 19 | 5 | 16 | 50 | 5 | 4 |
| Rob Segedin | R | 29 | 1B | 358 | 43 | 81 | 17 | 2 | 11 | 49 | 1 | 2 |
| Travis Taijeron | R | 29 | RF | 529 | 62 | 101 | 27 | 2 | 21 | 68 | 1 | 2 |
| D.J. Peters | R | 22 | CF | 541 | 63 | 105 | 23 | 4 | 19 | 62 | 3 | 4 |
| Matt Beaty | L | 25 | 1B | 495 | 52 | 120 | 23 | 1 | 10 | 53 | 3 | 2 |
| Andre Ethier | L | 36 | LF | 282 | 27 | 63 | 12 | 3 | 7 | 32 | 1 | 1 |
| Matt Kemp | R | 33 | LF | 549 | 64 | 135 | 29 | 2 | 23 | 91 | 3 | 2 |
| Henry Ramos | B | 26 | RF | 284 | 30 | 68 | 12 | 2 | 7 | 28 | 3 | 3 |
| Drew Jackson | R | 24 | SS | 478 | 51 | 93 | 16 | 2 | 6 | 34 | 17 | 8 |
| Brant Whiting | L | 26 | C | 139 | 13 | 25 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 |
| Max Muncy | L | 27 | 3B | 389 | 44 | 76 | 15 | 2 | 11 | 40 | 2 | 3 |
| Shawn Zarraga | B | 29 | C | 192 | 18 | 42 | 10 | 0 | 1 | 15 | 0 | 1 |
| Errol Robinson | R | 23 | SS | 414 | 42 | 88 | 16 | 4 | 5 | 33 | 17 | 5 |
| Tyler Holt | R | 29 | CF | 333 | 31 | 65 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 17 | 16 | 4 |
| Brett Eibner | R | 29 | RF | 341 | 38 | 69 | 12 | 1 | 13 | 41 | 3 | 2 |
| Angelo Mora | B | 25 | 2B | 430 | 38 | 94 | 18 | 5 | 5 | 40 | 3 | 3 |
| Edwin Rios | L | 24 | 1B | 508 | 58 | 116 | 26 | 1 | 17 | 69 | 1 | 2 |
| Luke Raley | L | 23 | LF | 518 | 62 | 111 | 18 | 8 | 12 | 53 | 6 | 2 |
| Quincy Latimore | R | 29 | LF | 423 | 43 | 81 | 15 | 2 | 13 | 42 | 4 | 4 |
| Johan Mieses | R | 22 | CF | 487 | 52 | 84 | 22 | 1 | 19 | 63 | 1 | 3 |
| Erick Mejia | B | 23 | SS | 529 | 54 | 113 | 18 | 6 | 6 | 41 | 20 | 7 |
| Michael Ahmed | R | 26 | SS | 329 | 31 | 60 | 10 | 2 | 5 | 24 | 8 | 6 |
| Kyle Garlick | R | 26 | LF | 389 | 43 | 77 | 19 | 1 | 14 | 47 | 1 | 0 |
| Omar Estevez | R | 20 | SS | 534 | 48 | 108 | 24 | 3 | 9 | 48 | 2 | 5 |
| Yusniel Diaz | R | 21 | RF | 493 | 50 | 103 | 18 | 4 | 12 | 50 | 8 | 16 |
| Peter O’Brien | R | 27 | 1B | 446 | 50 | 80 | 18 | 3 | 24 | 65 | 0 | 0 |
| Jacob Scavuzzo | R | 24 | LF | 411 | 42 | 85 | 17 | 2 | 13 | 47 | 4 | 3 |
***
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | wRC+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Corey Seager | 666 | 8.7% | 19.4% | .202 | .334 | .293 | .357 | .495 | .359 | 124 |
| Cody Bellinger | 607 | 10.9% | 25.4% | .285 | .309 | .272 | .353 | .558 | .375 | 134 |
| Justin Turner | 515 | 8.9% | 13.6% | .189 | .308 | .292 | .370 | .481 | .362 | 126 |
| Yasiel Puig | 548 | 9.9% | 19.3% | .208 | .297 | .267 | .345 | .475 | .347 | 116 |
| Yasmani Grandal | 452 | 11.5% | 26.3% | .220 | .276 | .235 | .324 | .456 | .333 | 107 |
| Chris Taylor | 579 | 7.9% | 22.8% | .163 | .319 | .259 | .322 | .422 | .320 | 98 |
| Joc Pederson | 475 | 13.7% | 26.9% | .223 | .282 | .233 | .348 | .455 | .344 | 114 |
| Logan Forsythe | 498 | 10.8% | 23.1% | .160 | .306 | .250 | .341 | .410 | .326 | 103 |
| Austin Barnes | 361 | 10.8% | 16.3% | .133 | .291 | .254 | .342 | .387 | .319 | 98 |
| Chase Utley | 385 | 7.3% | 18.2% | .147 | .290 | .249 | .320 | .396 | .311 | 93 |
| Andrew Toles | 363 | 4.1% | 21.5% | .143 | .322 | .266 | .301 | .409 | .303 | 87 |
| Curtis Granderson | 494 | 11.1% | 22.1% | .190 | .282 | .241 | .332 | .432 | .327 | 103 |
| Alex Verdugo | 559 | 7.2% | 13.2% | .127 | .288 | .264 | .319 | .391 | .306 | 89 |
| Jose Miguel Fernandez | 405 | 7.7% | 11.1% | .132 | .276 | .263 | .329 | .395 | .310 | 92 |
| Tim Locastro | 550 | 3.8% | 16.0% | .110 | .294 | .255 | .314 | .365 | .297 | 83 |
| Kiké Hernandez | 344 | 9.6% | 23.3% | .179 | .284 | .238 | .312 | .417 | .311 | 93 |
| Kyle Farmer | 411 | 5.1% | 17.8% | .128 | .275 | .237 | .282 | .365 | .278 | 71 |
| Blake Gailen | 215 | 8.8% | 20.5% | .171 | .264 | .233 | .302 | .404 | .302 | 87 |
| Franklin Gutierrez | 255 | 8.2% | 27.1% | .210 | .293 | .245 | .314 | .454 | .327 | 103 |
| O’Koyea Dickson | 444 | 6.5% | 22.5% | .205 | .272 | .242 | .300 | .447 | .315 | 95 |
| Trayce Thompson | 445 | 7.0% | 29.7% | .188 | .269 | .212 | .268 | .400 | .283 | 75 |
| Rob Segedin | 358 | 6.7% | 21.8% | .166 | .292 | .248 | .307 | .414 | .309 | 92 |
| Travis Taijeron | 529 | 9.5% | 34.6% | .202 | .302 | .217 | .304 | .418 | .311 | 93 |
| D.J. Peters | 541 | 7.9% | 37.0% | .180 | .319 | .215 | .290 | .395 | .296 | 83 |
| Matt Beaty | 495 | 5.5% | 15.8% | .119 | .292 | .260 | .303 | .380 | .294 | 81 |
| Andre Ethier | 282 | 9.2% | 21.3% | .155 | .301 | .251 | .326 | .406 | .313 | 94 |
| Matt Kemp | 549 | 5.8% | 22.4% | .200 | .303 | .265 | .306 | .465 | .321 | 99 |
| Henry Ramos | 284 | 5.3% | 19.7% | .140 | .300 | .258 | .298 | .398 | .297 | 83 |
| Drew Jackson | 478 | 6.7% | 26.2% | .088 | .287 | .215 | .282 | .303 | .260 | 59 |
| Brant Whiting | 139 | 10.1% | 32.4% | .058 | .320 | .207 | .309 | .264 | .266 | 63 |
| Max Muncy | 389 | 10.5% | 25.4% | .152 | .277 | .222 | .308 | .374 | .297 | 84 |
| Shawn Zarraga | 192 | 8.3% | 16.7% | .076 | .291 | .246 | .309 | .322 | .277 | 70 |
| Errol Robinson | 414 | 6.5% | 24.4% | .102 | .297 | .230 | .283 | .332 | .269 | 65 |
| Tyler Holt | 333 | 9.3% | 23.1% | .044 | .298 | .221 | .299 | .265 | .258 | 57 |
| Brett Eibner | 341 | 7.6% | 27.6% | .170 | .272 | .222 | .282 | .392 | .289 | 78 |
| Angelo Mora | 430 | 4.9% | 24.7% | .106 | .302 | .232 | .271 | .338 | .263 | 61 |
| Edwin Rios | 508 | 4.7% | 28.1% | .166 | .310 | .244 | .285 | .410 | .293 | 80 |
| Luke Raley | 518 | 5.4% | 26.3% | .148 | .301 | .234 | .293 | .382 | .291 | 79 |
| Quincy Latimore | 423 | 5.9% | 30.5% | .148 | .271 | .207 | .259 | .355 | .265 | 62 |
| Johan Mieses | 487 | 6.0% | 40.0% | .180 | .274 | .187 | .246 | .367 | .262 | 60 |
| Erick Mejia | 529 | 6.2% | 24.2% | .098 | .301 | .232 | .282 | .330 | .267 | 64 |
| Michael Ahmed | 329 | 9.1% | 31.3% | .098 | .293 | .203 | .280 | .302 | .260 | 59 |
| Kyle Garlick | 389 | 6.2% | 34.4% | .176 | .297 | .215 | .272 | .391 | .283 | 74 |
| Omar Estevez | 534 | 4.5% | 25.5% | .114 | .276 | .216 | .256 | .329 | .253 | 55 |
| Yusniel Diaz | 493 | 6.7% | 26.2% | .136 | .287 | .226 | .278 | .363 | .277 | 70 |
| Peter O’Brien | 446 | 5.8% | 42.2% | .231 | .273 | .193 | .244 | .424 | .280 | 72 |
| Jacob Scavuzzo | 411 | 4.4% | 32.1% | .155 | .295 | .220 | .260 | .376 | .271 | 66 |
***
| Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | zWAR | No.1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Corey Seager | 666 | 6.8 | 130 | 4 | 5.7 | Troy Tulowitzki |
| Cody Bellinger | 607 | 7.5 | 143 | 4 | 4.4 | Kent Hrbek |
| Justin Turner | 515 | 6.9 | 130 | 5 | 4.3 | Bill Madlock |
| Yasiel Puig | 548 | 6.0 | 121 | 6 | 3.2 | Matt Stairs |
| Yasmani Grandal | 452 | 5.2 | 110 | -1 | 2.8 | Charles Johnson |
| Chris Taylor | 579 | 5.0 | 101 | 5 | 2.7 | Marlon Byrd |
| Joc Pederson | 475 | 5.5 | 117 | -4 | 2.4 | Val Pascucci |
| Logan Forsythe | 498 | 5.0 | 104 | 2 | 2.3 | Junior Spivey |
| Austin Barnes | 361 | 4.9 | 99 | -1 | 1.9 | Charlie Moore |
| Chase Utley | 385 | 4.7 | 94 | 0 | 1.3 | Shawn Gilbert |
| Andrew Toles | 363 | 4.4 | 92 | 7 | 1.0 | Bruce Fields |
| Curtis Granderson | 494 | 5.1 | 107 | -13 | 1.0 | Steve Finley |
| Alex Verdugo | 559 | 4.5 | 93 | -6 | 0.9 | Jeff Abbott |
| Jose Miguel Fernandez | 405 | 4.6 | 97 | -3 | 0.8 | Tom O’Malley |
| Tim Locastro | 550 | 4.3 | 85 | -5 | 0.8 | William Bergolla |
| Kiké Hernandez | 344 | 4.6 | 97 | -4 | 0.8 | Jason Grabowski |
| Kyle Farmer | 411 | 3.6 | 75 | -2 | 0.6 | Mark Parent |
| Blake Gailen | 215 | 4.2 | 91 | 0 | 0.5 | Stu Pederson |
| Franklin Gutierrez | 255 | 5.0 | 106 | -3 | 0.5 | Wally Westlake |
| O’Koyea Dickson | 444 | 4.7 | 100 | -4 | 0.5 | Elvin Paulino |
| Trayce Thompson | 445 | 3.6 | 79 | 0 | 0.4 | Jason Cooper |
| Rob Segedin | 358 | 4.5 | 95 | 1 | 0.3 | Rod Allen |
| Travis Taijeron | 529 | 4.3 | 95 | -6 | 0.3 | Pat Adams |
| D.J. Peters | 541 | 3.8 | 85 | -7 | 0.2 | Brian Rosinski |
| Matt Beaty | 495 | 4.2 | 85 | 4 | 0.2 | Randall Simon |
| Andre Ethier | 282 | 4.7 | 99 | -3 | 0.2 | Milt Thompson |
| Matt Kemp | 549 | 5.2 | 107 | -13 | 0.1 | Hubie Brooks |
| Henry Ramos | 284 | 4.2 | 88 | 0 | 0.1 | Andrew Locke |
| Drew Jackson | 478 | 3.0 | 60 | 2 | 0.1 | Felix Martinez |
| Brant Whiting | 139 | 2.8 | 59 | -2 | -0.1 | Sean McCraw |
| Max Muncy | 389 | 3.9 | 86 | -8 | -0.1 | Ray Giannelli |
| Shawn Zarraga | 192 | 3.4 | 73 | -4 | -0.1 | Alan Ashby |
| Errol Robinson | 414 | 3.5 | 67 | -4 | -0.1 | Juan Bell |
| Tyler Holt | 333 | 3.0 | 56 | 1 | -0.2 | Jamal Strong |
| Brett Eibner | 341 | 3.8 | 82 | -1 | -0.2 | Ryan Jones |
| Angelo Mora | 430 | 3.1 | 65 | 2 | -0.2 | Juan Melo |
| Edwin Rios | 508 | 4.1 | 87 | 0 | -0.3 | Garret Anderson |
| Luke Raley | 518 | 4.0 | 83 | -4 | -0.3 | Elijah Bonaparte |
| Quincy Latimore | 423 | 3.0 | 66 | 7 | -0.3 | John Giudice |
| Johan Mieses | 487 | 2.9 | 65 | 2 | -0.4 | Brian Pettway |
| Erick Mejia | 529 | 3.4 | 67 | -7 | -0.5 | Bob Meacham |
| Michael Ahmed | 329 | 2.7 | 59 | -4 | -0.6 | Ross Jones |
| Kyle Garlick | 389 | 3.7 | 78 | -5 | -0.7 | Terry Lee |
| Omar Estevez | 534 | 2.7 | 58 | -3 | -0.9 | Ricky Bell |
| Yusniel Diaz | 493 | 3.0 | 73 | -1 | -1.1 | Rich Butler |
| Peter O’Brien | 446 | 3.5 | 78 | -5 | -1.1 | Fred McNair |
| Jacob Scavuzzo | 411 | 3.3 | 71 | -6 | -1.2 | Brandt Humphry |
***
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clayton Kershaw | L | 30 | 27 | 27 | 179.0 | 213 | 27 | 18 | 137 | 52 | 49 |
| Yu Darvish | R | 31 | 28 | 28 | 169.3 | 207 | 51 | 20 | 141 | 65 | 61 |
| Kenta Maeda | R | 30 | 29 | 27 | 150.7 | 149 | 39 | 17 | 137 | 63 | 59 |
| Alex Wood | L | 27 | 27 | 24 | 144.3 | 136 | 41 | 17 | 135 | 62 | 58 |
| Rich Hill | L | 38 | 23 | 23 | 115.7 | 137 | 46 | 14 | 93 | 48 | 45 |
| Kenley Jansen | R | 30 | 63 | 0 | 63.0 | 92 | 16 | 6 | 44 | 17 | 16 |
| Wilmer Font | R | 28 | 27 | 23 | 126.3 | 138 | 36 | 19 | 119 | 59 | 55 |
| Trevor Oaks | R | 25 | 24 | 24 | 141.0 | 94 | 25 | 18 | 153 | 68 | 64 |
| Walker Buehler | R | 23 | 36 | 19 | 93.7 | 122 | 42 | 13 | 79 | 43 | 40 |
| Hyun-Jin Ryu | L | 31 | 22 | 21 | 112.7 | 99 | 33 | 17 | 117 | 56 | 52 |
| Josh Fields | R | 32 | 58 | 0 | 56.0 | 65 | 17 | 5 | 48 | 21 | 20 |
| Tony Watson | L | 33 | 67 | 0 | 63.7 | 57 | 17 | 8 | 60 | 27 | 25 |
| Yadier Alvarez | R | 22 | 22 | 19 | 92.3 | 83 | 57 | 8 | 89 | 48 | 45 |
| Justin Masterson | R | 33 | 23 | 20 | 112.3 | 96 | 56 | 12 | 112 | 61 | 57 |
| Julio Urias | L | 21 | 12 | 12 | 55.3 | 46 | 24 | 5 | 53 | 26 | 24 |
| Ross Stripling | R | 28 | 39 | 10 | 89.7 | 79 | 28 | 13 | 90 | 46 | 43 |
| Adam Liberatore | L | 31 | 43 | 0 | 38.0 | 44 | 13 | 4 | 32 | 15 | 14 |
| Luis Avilan | L | 28 | 65 | 0 | 53.7 | 54 | 23 | 5 | 49 | 24 | 22 |
| Pedro Baez | R | 30 | 66 | 0 | 63.0 | 67 | 23 | 9 | 57 | 29 | 27 |
| Edward Paredes | L | 31 | 42 | 0 | 45.0 | 56 | 23 | 5 | 37 | 19 | 18 |
| Joe Broussard | R | 27 | 46 | 0 | 65.3 | 66 | 20 | 9 | 63 | 31 | 29 |
| Brock Stewart | R | 26 | 25 | 17 | 89.7 | 90 | 30 | 17 | 89 | 49 | 46 |
| Jesen Therrien | R | 25 | 52 | 0 | 68.7 | 66 | 25 | 9 | 66 | 33 | 31 |
| Yaisel Sierra | R | 27 | 42 | 0 | 68.0 | 66 | 33 | 7 | 65 | 33 | 31 |
| Shea Spitzbarth | R | 23 | 43 | 0 | 66.0 | 66 | 27 | 8 | 64 | 32 | 30 |
| Jordan Jankowski | R | 29 | 47 | 0 | 55.0 | 68 | 36 | 6 | 46 | 27 | 25 |
| Madison Younginer | R | 27 | 43 | 2 | 62.7 | 60 | 29 | 8 | 61 | 32 | 30 |
| Andrew Sopko | R | 23 | 24 | 23 | 108.7 | 77 | 47 | 15 | 119 | 63 | 59 |
| Tommy Layne | L | 33 | 46 | 0 | 36.0 | 31 | 20 | 3 | 34 | 17 | 16 |
| David Hale | R | 30 | 20 | 16 | 89.0 | 56 | 25 | 14 | 101 | 51 | 48 |
| Brian Moran | L | 29 | 27 | 0 | 30.7 | 33 | 11 | 4 | 29 | 15 | 14 |
| Dylan Floro | R | 27 | 44 | 1 | 71.7 | 44 | 14 | 11 | 82 | 39 | 36 |
| Yimi Garcia | R | 27 | 39 | 0 | 41.3 | 42 | 10 | 8 | 41 | 21 | 20 |
| Tom Koehler | R | 32 | 30 | 23 | 129.0 | 115 | 55 | 24 | 133 | 77 | 72 |
| Jeremy Bleich | L | 31 | 34 | 3 | 61.0 | 44 | 22 | 9 | 66 | 34 | 32 |
| Dennis Santana | R | 22 | 25 | 20 | 113.7 | 101 | 63 | 17 | 115 | 68 | 64 |
| Josh Sborz | R | 24 | 26 | 23 | 111.7 | 80 | 57 | 15 | 120 | 67 | 63 |
| Tim Shibuya | R | 28 | 23 | 10 | 73.0 | 39 | 15 | 13 | 87 | 44 | 41 |
| Colt Hynes | L | 33 | 31 | 3 | 55.0 | 40 | 16 | 9 | 61 | 31 | 29 |
| Tony Cingrani | L | 28 | 54 | 0 | 47.3 | 43 | 24 | 7 | 47 | 26 | 24 |
| Juan Noriega | R | 27 | 50 | 0 | 45.3 | 40 | 18 | 7 | 46 | 25 | 23 |
| Pat Venditte | R | 33 | 47 | 0 | 62.0 | 60 | 32 | 10 | 59 | 35 | 33 |
| Steve Geltz | R | 30 | 43 | 0 | 43.7 | 46 | 21 | 9 | 41 | 26 | 24 |
| Fabio Castillo | R | 29 | 29 | 16 | 98.0 | 85 | 49 | 16 | 103 | 61 | 57 |
| Eddie Gamboa | R | 33 | 23 | 18 | 104.3 | 73 | 60 | 16 | 109 | 67 | 63 |
| Jair Jurrjens | R | 32 | 14 | 13 | 70.3 | 43 | 26 | 13 | 83 | 48 | 45 |
| Corey Copping | R | 24 | 47 | 0 | 58.3 | 52 | 38 | 10 | 60 | 37 | 35 |
| Daniel Corcino | R | 27 | 26 | 10 | 72.0 | 64 | 41 | 17 | 78 | 52 | 49 |
***
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clayton Kershaw | 179.0 | 701 | 30.4% | 3.9% | .270 | 2.46 | 2.55 | 59 | 60 |
| Yu Darvish | 169.3 | 700 | 29.6% | 7.3% | .290 | 3.24 | 3.22 | 78 | 76 |
| Kenta Maeda | 150.7 | 628 | 23.7% | 6.2% | .288 | 3.52 | 3.52 | 85 | 83 |
| Alex Wood | 144.3 | 609 | 22.3% | 6.7% | .288 | 3.62 | 3.68 | 87 | 86 |
| Rich Hill | 115.7 | 486 | 28.2% | 9.5% | .281 | 3.50 | 3.74 | 84 | 88 |
| Kenley Jansen | 63.0 | 249 | 36.9% | 6.4% | .286 | 2.29 | 2.28 | 55 | 54 |
| Wilmer Font | 126.3 | 534 | 25.8% | 6.7% | .299 | 3.92 | 3.93 | 95 | 92 |
| Trevor Oaks | 141.0 | 601 | 15.6% | 4.2% | .295 | 4.09 | 4.16 | 99 | 98 |
| Walker Buehler | 93.7 | 402 | 30.3% | 10.4% | .299 | 3.84 | 3.80 | 93 | 89 |
| Hyun-Jin Ryu | 112.7 | 488 | 20.3% | 6.8% | .298 | 4.15 | 4.24 | 100 | 100 |
| Josh Fields | 56.0 | 233 | 27.9% | 7.3% | .297 | 3.21 | 2.85 | 78 | 67 |
| Tony Watson | 63.7 | 268 | 21.3% | 6.3% | .286 | 3.53 | 3.85 | 85 | 90 |
| Yadier Alvarez | 92.3 | 423 | 19.6% | 13.5% | .300 | 4.39 | 4.50 | 106 | 106 |
| Justin Masterson | 112.3 | 505 | 19.0% | 11.1% | .301 | 4.57 | 4.55 | 110 | 107 |
| Julio Urias | 55.3 | 243 | 18.9% | 9.9% | .289 | 3.90 | 4.03 | 94 | 95 |
| Ross Stripling | 89.7 | 387 | 20.4% | 7.2% | .292 | 4.32 | 4.22 | 104 | 99 |
| Adam Liberatore | 38.0 | 159 | 27.7% | 8.2% | .292 | 3.32 | 3.24 | 80 | 76 |
| Luis Avilan | 53.7 | 233 | 23.2% | 9.9% | .295 | 3.69 | 3.53 | 89 | 83 |
| Pedro Baez | 63.0 | 269 | 24.9% | 8.6% | .286 | 3.86 | 4.03 | 93 | 95 |
| Edward Paredes | 45.0 | 195 | 28.7% | 11.8% | .294 | 3.60 | 3.71 | 87 | 87 |
| Joe Broussard | 65.3 | 279 | 23.7% | 7.2% | .300 | 3.99 | 3.98 | 96 | 94 |
| Brock Stewart | 89.7 | 388 | 23.2% | 7.7% | .291 | 4.62 | 4.72 | 111 | 111 |
| Jesen Therrien | 68.7 | 297 | 22.2% | 8.4% | .295 | 4.06 | 4.16 | 98 | 98 |
| Yaisel Sierra | 68.0 | 302 | 21.9% | 10.9% | .302 | 4.10 | 4.14 | 99 | 97 |
| Shea Spitzbarth | 66.0 | 289 | 22.8% | 9.3% | .304 | 4.09 | 4.14 | 99 | 97 |
| Jordan Jankowski | 55.0 | 247 | 27.5% | 14.6% | .299 | 4.09 | 4.12 | 99 | 97 |
| Madison Younginer | 62.7 | 278 | 21.6% | 10.4% | .298 | 4.31 | 4.39 | 104 | 103 |
| Andrew Sopko | 108.7 | 492 | 15.7% | 9.6% | .301 | 4.89 | 5.03 | 118 | 118 |
| Tommy Layne | 36.0 | 162 | 19.1% | 12.3% | .292 | 4.00 | 4.27 | 96 | 100 |
| David Hale | 89.0 | 393 | 14.2% | 6.4% | .296 | 4.85 | 4.89 | 117 | 115 |
| Brian Moran | 30.7 | 132 | 25.0% | 8.3% | .305 | 4.11 | 3.88 | 99 | 91 |
| Dylan Floro | 71.7 | 311 | 14.1% | 4.5% | .297 | 4.52 | 4.64 | 109 | 109 |
| Yimi Garcia | 41.3 | 175 | 24.0% | 5.7% | .292 | 4.35 | 4.51 | 105 | 106 |
| Tom Koehler | 129.0 | 575 | 20.0% | 9.6% | .291 | 5.02 | 5.14 | 121 | 121 |
| Jeremy Bleich | 61.0 | 271 | 16.2% | 8.1% | .295 | 4.72 | 4.76 | 114 | 112 |
| Dennis Santana | 113.7 | 519 | 19.5% | 12.1% | .296 | 5.07 | 5.17 | 122 | 121 |
| Josh Sborz | 111.7 | 512 | 15.6% | 11.1% | .297 | 5.08 | 5.16 | 122 | 121 |
| Tim Shibuya | 73.0 | 321 | 12.1% | 4.7% | .296 | 5.05 | 5.19 | 122 | 122 |
| Colt Hynes | 55.0 | 242 | 16.5% | 6.6% | .299 | 4.75 | 4.81 | 114 | 113 |
| Tony Cingrani | 47.3 | 213 | 20.2% | 11.3% | .292 | 4.56 | 4.85 | 110 | 114 |
| Juan Noriega | 45.3 | 200 | 20.0% | 9.0% | .295 | 4.57 | 4.59 | 110 | 108 |
| Pat Venditte | 62.0 | 277 | 21.7% | 11.6% | .285 | 4.79 | 4.96 | 116 | 117 |
| Steve Geltz | 43.7 | 193 | 23.8% | 10.9% | .278 | 4.95 | 5.24 | 119 | 123 |
| Fabio Castillo | 98.0 | 446 | 19.1% | 11.0% | .299 | 5.23 | 5.17 | 126 | 121 |
| Eddie Gamboa | 104.3 | 482 | 15.1% | 12.4% | .284 | 5.43 | 5.65 | 131 | 133 |
| Jair Jurrjens | 70.3 | 320 | 13.4% | 8.1% | .299 | 5.76 | 5.57 | 139 | 131 |
| Corey Copping | 58.3 | 273 | 19.0% | 13.9% | .296 | 5.40 | 5.61 | 130 | 132 |
| Daniel Corcino | 72.0 | 335 | 19.1% | 12.2% | .292 | 6.12 | 6.32 | 148 | 149 |
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| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clayton Kershaw | 179.0 | 10.71 | 1.36 | 0.91 | 165 | 5.8 | Sandy Koufax |
| Yu Darvish | 169.3 | 11.00 | 2.71 | 1.06 | 127 | 4.0 | Greg Maddux |
| Kenta Maeda | 150.7 | 8.90 | 2.33 | 1.02 | 117 | 3.0 | Kevin Brown |
| Alex Wood | 144.3 | 8.48 | 2.56 | 1.06 | 113 | 2.6 | Joe Magrane |
| Rich Hill | 115.7 | 10.66 | 3.58 | 1.09 | 118 | 2.4 | Al Leiter |
| Kenley Jansen | 63.0 | 13.14 | 2.29 | 0.86 | 178 | 2.2 | John Wetteland |
| Wilmer Font | 126.3 | 9.83 | 2.56 | 1.35 | 105 | 1.9 | Jack Armstrong |
| Trevor Oaks | 141.0 | 6.00 | 1.60 | 1.15 | 100 | 1.8 | Jack Russell |
| Walker Buehler | 93.7 | 11.72 | 4.04 | 1.25 | 106 | 1.3 | Ralph Branca |
| Hyun-Jin Ryu | 112.7 | 7.91 | 2.64 | 1.36 | 98 | 1.3 | Mike Jeffcoat |
| Josh Fields | 56.0 | 10.45 | 2.73 | 0.80 | 128 | 1.0 | Mike Maddux |
| Tony Watson | 63.7 | 8.06 | 2.40 | 1.13 | 115 | 0.9 | Tony Castillo |
| Yadier Alvarez | 92.3 | 8.09 | 5.56 | 0.78 | 94 | 0.9 | Dick Ruthven |
| Justin Masterson | 112.3 | 7.69 | 4.49 | 0.96 | 90 | 0.8 | Ray Moore |
| Julio Urias | 55.3 | 7.48 | 3.90 | 0.81 | 104 | 0.8 | Chris Hammond |
| Ross Stripling | 89.7 | 7.93 | 2.81 | 1.30 | 94 | 0.7 | Laddie Renfroe |
| Adam Liberatore | 38.0 | 10.42 | 3.08 | 0.95 | 124 | 0.6 | Bobby Seay |
| Luis Avilan | 53.7 | 9.06 | 3.86 | 0.84 | 110 | 0.6 | Tippy Martinez |
| Pedro Baez | 63.0 | 9.57 | 3.29 | 1.29 | 106 | 0.6 | Mike DeJean |
| Edward Paredes | 45.0 | 11.20 | 4.60 | 1.00 | 113 | 0.6 | Marshall Bridges |
| Joe Broussard | 65.3 | 9.09 | 2.76 | 1.24 | 102 | 0.5 | Matt Whiteside |
| Brock Stewart | 89.7 | 9.03 | 3.01 | 1.71 | 88 | 0.5 | Juan Dominguez |
| Jesen Therrien | 68.7 | 8.65 | 3.28 | 1.18 | 100 | 0.4 | Cary Hiles |
| Yaisel Sierra | 68.0 | 8.74 | 4.37 | 0.93 | 99 | 0.4 | George Smith |
| Shea Spitzbarth | 66.0 | 9.00 | 3.68 | 1.09 | 100 | 0.4 | Andy Shipman |
| Jordan Jankowski | 55.0 | 11.13 | 5.89 | 0.98 | 101 | 0.4 | Calvin Jones |
| Madison Younginer | 62.7 | 8.62 | 4.16 | 1.15 | 96 | 0.3 | Mike Gardner |
| Andrew Sopko | 108.7 | 6.38 | 3.89 | 1.24 | 83 | 0.3 | Ed Wojna |
| Tommy Layne | 36.0 | 7.75 | 5.00 | 0.75 | 103 | 0.3 | Marshall Bridges |
| David Hale | 89.0 | 5.66 | 2.53 | 1.42 | 84 | 0.3 | Heath Totten |
| Brian Moran | 30.7 | 9.68 | 3.23 | 1.17 | 100 | 0.2 | Mark Holzemer |
| Dylan Floro | 71.7 | 5.53 | 1.76 | 1.38 | 91 | 0.1 | Bill Fischer |
| Yimi Garcia | 41.3 | 9.15 | 2.18 | 1.74 | 94 | 0.1 | Julio Mateo |
| Tom Koehler | 129.0 | 8.02 | 3.84 | 1.67 | 81 | 0.1 | Jamey Wright |
| Jeremy Bleich | 61.0 | 6.49 | 3.25 | 1.33 | 87 | 0.1 | Tom Burgmeier |
| Dennis Santana | 113.7 | 8.00 | 4.99 | 1.35 | 80 | 0.0 | Rick Berg |
| Josh Sborz | 111.7 | 6.45 | 4.59 | 1.21 | 80 | 0.0 | Rick Berg |
| Tim Shibuya | 73.0 | 4.81 | 1.85 | 1.60 | 82 | 0.0 | Joe Roa |
| Colt Hynes | 55.0 | 6.55 | 2.62 | 1.47 | 86 | 0.0 | Mark Thurmond |
| Tony Cingrani | 47.3 | 8.18 | 4.56 | 1.33 | 89 | 0.0 | Lou Sleater |
| Juan Noriega | 45.3 | 7.94 | 3.57 | 1.39 | 89 | 0.0 | Casey Daigle |
| Pat Venditte | 62.0 | 8.71 | 4.65 | 1.45 | 86 | -0.1 | Jason Grimsley |
| Steve Geltz | 43.7 | 9.48 | 4.33 | 1.85 | 83 | -0.2 | Darrel Akerfelds |
| Fabio Castillo | 98.0 | 7.81 | 4.50 | 1.47 | 78 | -0.2 | Luis Estrella |
| Eddie Gamboa | 104.3 | 6.30 | 5.18 | 1.38 | 76 | -0.4 | Ray Moore |
| Jair Jurrjens | 70.3 | 5.50 | 3.33 | 1.66 | 72 | -0.5 | R.A. Dickey |
| Corey Copping | 58.3 | 8.02 | 5.86 | 1.54 | 75 | -0.6 | Heathcliff Slocumb |
| Daniel Corcino | 72.0 | 8.00 | 5.13 | 2.13 | 66 | -1.0 | Mumba Rivera |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2017. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.24 ERA and the NL having a 4.18 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
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I can’t begin to describe how funny the Yasiel Puig/Matt Stairs comp is
Also let me say how good the Dodgers are in finding/developing talent that they turned a guy with ~500 career professional innings of “meh”, signed him to a minor league deal, and now he’s projected for two wins (Wilmer Font).
I wonder if Yu Darvish and Josh Fields know that they are the reincarnations of the Brothers Maddux.
Comp for Clayton Kershaw a thing of beauty. You sure a Dodgers fan didn’t just put that in? Love that both Maddux brothers are on there too.
If the Dodgers can dump Kemp’s contract (not possible without attaching prospects, so not too likely) resigning Darvish (and getting him to stop tipping pitches!) would make that rotation terrifying.
I think my underrated favorite comp is Walker Buehler > Ralph Branca.
That’s been his comp every year since he became super-Kershaw in 2014 (so starting with 2015 ZIPS). I mean, even putting aside the obvious superficial similarities, still it’s legitimately a good comp. I don’t know if handedness is considered, but if it is, then you look at the lefties with similar peripherals, and the only possible comp for Kershaw besides Koufax is Randy Johnson, and for a variety of reasons, Koufax is a better fit.
The other thing is that Kershaw, with one year to go before his age-30 seasons–Koufax’s last–just passed Koufax in career WAR.
EDIT: and if the comps consider age, then that throws out Johnson, one of the greatest age outliers of all time.
I don’t know who Blake Gailen is but I really enjoy his top comp is Joc’s dad.
NL is weak. Dodgers will be in the World Series once again
Reviewing the IP per starting pitcher reminds me we have a year of even more SP 10-day DL musical chairs waiting for us next season.
Hmm. Koufax and (Greg) Maddux at the top of the rotation. It would be something to see if it came true. Anyways, Koufax’s age 30 season (and his last) was 1966. He threw 323 innings with an ERA+ of 190. Maddux’s age 31 season was 1997. He threw 232 innings with an ERA+ of 189.
That projection on Verdugo – I am still mystified at why prospect hounds and fantasy analysts are hyping him so much. Heck, I’ve even seen “No way the Dodgers should trade him for Yelich” occasionally brought up. There’s a lot of love going around for him for a guy who requires rampant projection just to get him to replacement level offensively. Heck, now that I mention Yelich he’s probably the 99th percentile ceiling on this profile (outfielder w/ contact skills but extremely questionable power & a handful of stolen bases), a profile for which there are a LOT of guys out there who don’t make a dent in the majors.
Hate to go this route, but can’t help but think that in a lesser market he’d only be on the radar of the most hardcore prospect types. I am very open to hearing the counter argument for why the hype is warranted if someone’s got one, I’m not a scout so I could easily be wrong!
I think you answered your own question with your last sentence.
He did also walk more than he struck out as a 21 year old in AAA.
Yes, for reasons such as that, he’s always been very highly rated by KATOH.
21 year olds with great contact skills and fringe ability to play center in AAA almost never fail to pan out as prospects. Verdugo has a limited ceiling if power doesn’t emerge as he grows but his floor is very high for his age.
Look at Yelich as a player who is extremely valuable with a similar profile: low slug, high on base, can play center but it’s not the best idea.
Yelich has the power but doesn’t use it due to his extrme gb profile. Verdugo is either a power emergence in the juiced ball era, or consistent CF play from being a great player. With either he’s a tweener who may be a 2nd division regular.
Fair enough, I guess it’s all about expectations. I find sometimes Fangraphs (and baseball writers in general) have trouble expressing the right degree of excitement about a player’s potential. Often the hype around the player is as if he’s going to be the next big thing, when it’s properly about that guy having a chance of being a reliable or above average regular.
Fantasy analysts are the worst about this. “Impending breakout player! (unwritten subtext: and by breakout player we mean he’ll vault from ‘worthless’ to ‘usable’)”
Realistically speaking with Verdugo’s profile you’re thrilled to get Nick Markakis’ career. That’s really impressive, especially as a projection for a 21 year old as you said, but also not quite aligned with the way many people are talking about the guy right now.
It would be better to say that without further improvement you probably get Markakis’s career.
With improvement, you get Yelich. That’s outstanding for a 21 year old who’s already hit against the highest level of the minors.
Some of you are really underselling Nick Markakis’ career. Markakis is a lot closer to Yelich than to Verdugo.
Markakis MiLB ISO: .175
Yelich MiLB ISO: .186
Verdugo MiLB ISO: .133
Nick Markakis, first 4 years: 14.2 WAR
Christian Yelich, first 4 full seasons: 15.9 WAR
Yes I know that includes the outlier 2008 season, but Nick Markakis’ career is more or less the median outcome for the #1 prospect. Alex Verdugo is no #1 prospect.
Markakis and Yelich both hit for MUCH more power than Verdugo. Both Markakis and Yelich’s career MLB ISO are about 40 points below their MiLB numbers, so think about what Verdugo power is going to look like, when his MiLB ISO is lower than both Yelich and Markakis’s MLB numbers.
I’m going to second what LHPSU said. With no further improvement Verdugo is not Markakis. The whole point of thinking Verdugo is great is that he’s been consistently young for his level, and so we think there is a good chance for improvement. If he doesn’t improve, he’s a 4th outfielder and will be out of the league once his team control his up…it’s just that we’re banking on that not to happen.
I’m just going to point out we’re in an era of baseball where players routinely gain ISO when moving from MILB to MLB due to the ball, so I suspect the differential in ISO between Verdugo in MLB as he is is smaller than the difference between his MILB ISO.
Your average player moving from AAA to MLB is gaining ISO right now just from the transition.
The thing is, in contemporary MLB, .180 ISO from a corner outfielder is less good, unless it comes with potential play in CF.
2017 league ISO was .171. 2016 league ISO was .162. 2015 league ISO was .167.
The difference is smaller than you think, and let’s not pretend that there has been a representative sample of players moving from MiLB to MLB in one year. When a player’s minor league ISO is well below the league average, you’re not concerned about whether he can drive the ball over the wall; you’re concerned about whether he can drive the ball out of the infield.
The thing is, Nick Markakis and Christian Yelich were much better MiLB players than Alex Verdugo (both also have career MiLB walk rates of about 10%, something that Verdugo has only achieved once). It would be unreasonable to expect minor leaguer Markakis and Yelich to achieve what they have at the MLB level; it would be downright insane to expect Verdugo, whose minor league performance has been much less impressive, to achieve the same.
I’m not talking about the change in power output across MLB; I’m talking specifically about substantial power gains from prospects at promotion as they switch balls. We’ve seen that across prospect analysis over the last year or so, where projecting power output is even more difficult because of players gaining power output at promotion instead of, typically, losing it.
If that is in fact true – and there isn’t enough evidence at this point to prove it – Alex Verdugo won’t be the only one who gains power. A player who has significantly lower than average power in the minor leagues is likely to continue to have significantly lower than average power in the MLB, compared to his peers graduating from MiLB.
The Kent Hrbek comp is awesome. I’ll just sit back and wait for Bellinger to dunk an ice cream sandwich into a beer and eat it mid-interview.
Fwiw this summer Bellinger admitted one of his favorite things about being a major leaguer was ice cream sandwiches in the clubhouse before every game.
Rich Hill = Al Leiter
Love it
That’s one hell of a top 5 rotation comps.
Zips missed a golden opportunity to assign Tippy Martinez as Darvish’s comp.
I love these comps, but I think the pitching ones are a bit misguided. Yes, Maeda’s rates might line up with Kevin Brown, but Brown hit 230+ innings SEVEN times. Maeda’s highest was 175.2, in 32 starts. FG seems to be giving less and less credit for durability (as are front offices, I know) but it’s still a bit of an insult to what Brown was able to do to compare him to Maeda.
So the thing with these comps is that they are age-specific.
Zips comparison does NOT look at what Kevin Brown did after he turned 31 when comparing him to Maeda who is 29.
As dominant as Kevin Brown eventually became, up until 29, he was not really an ace.
I know it could be confusing but that is how it is.
Also, the game changes over time. Many more pitchers threw 230+ innings during Kevin Brown’s career than currently.
You got Pederson with a *2…with 114 wRC+…2.4 zWAR…hitting above .230?…when the hell has that EVER happened?…and as a starting corner outfielder…LOL Yikes, that’s the biggest pile of dong I heard from this site in awhile. Those calculations are about a reliable as Dave Cameron’s logic. You’re telling me Pederson will have a better season than Domingo Santana and that is straight up BS…I don’t need any stats to know that. After coming up with number like that for Pederson I would rethink the formula. I would throw the whole thing out…clearly flawed.
He surpassed all of those numbers just 2 years ago. Plus, he’s 25, there’s plenty of room for growth.