2024 ZiPS Projections: Chicago White Sox

For the 20th consecutive season, the ZiPS projection system is unleashing a full set of prognostications. For more information on the ZiPS projections, please consult this year’s introduction and MLB’s glossary entry. The team order is selected by lot, and the final team is the Chicago White Sox.

Batters

In a certain way, this team is a bit more depressing than the Oakland Athletics. No, they’re not trying to peace out of Chicago, but I think the A’s front office is probably more realistic about the team’s immediate chances of winning than the Southsiders are. It’s always hard to gauge exactly what a team truly thinks of their outlook, but I get the impression that the White Sox think they will be at least halfway competitive in 2024. Realistically, though, a lot of things would have to go their way, even in a weak division like the AL Central.

The Pale Hose have a one-dude offense in a sport where that isn’t a thing. Luis Robert Jr. is in his prime right now, probably at his peak form. If the White Sox were actually rebuilding, he’s the guy they could trade to start meaningfully restocking the farm system. Instead, he’ll be a key cog in their quest to win 70 games.

Now, YoĆ”n Moncada and Eloy JimĆ©nez could upgrade this to a three-dude offense, but in truth, there are big questions surrounding both players. Moncada’s health isn’t a given; he has suffered myriad nagging injuries the last two years. What’s more, it can no longer be taken for granted that if you just get him healthy, he’ll produce like he did in 2019 or 2021. The team has finally gotten JimĆ©nez’s glove off the field in most games, but a .272/.317/.441 line is abysmal for a player with no defensive value in a home run friendly park. He can still crush pitches in his wheelhouse, but he swings at too much junk, and at 27, you can’t really dismiss that tendency by appealing to his youth anymore.

Elsewhere on the depth chart, Andrew Benintendi was terrible last season; Guaranteed Rate is a poor fit for getting the most out of his limited offensive game. Meanwhile, the Andrew Vaughn breakout gets less likely every year. As for the rest of the positions, the White Sox have basically used a few trades and free agency to accumulate a whole bunch of inexpensive waiver-wire types with limited upside. I guess we’re going to go through the Oscar ColĆ”s experiment again, but his .809 OPS for Triple-A Charlotte wasn’t even good.

On the plus side, ZiPS is starting to come around on Colson Montgomery, to the extent that it now likes him slightly better than its longtime favorite, Bryan Ramos. However, there are still questions remaining. Montgomery got a lot of his value from walks, which isn’t necessarily a great sign for a minor leaguer. And we really haven’t gotten to see that much of him due to injuries. Still, a 22-year-old shortstop who has only played six weeks of Double-A ball boasting a 20% chance at a 111 OPS+ is quite the auspicious sign, even if his bottom-line 2024 projection isn’t astounding. Fans need something to look forward to!

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Pitchers

Well, they haven’t traded Dylan Cease yet, so the bottom has only mostly fallen out on this group. I guess Cristian Mena ranking this highly on the projection list is sort of a good thing? Erick Fedde and Chris Flexen feel like pitchers acquired mainly so that games will actually end, and it’s hard to have much confidence in Michael Soroka staying consistently healthy until we actually see it.

Some years ago, I mentioned that there were two pitching prospects in the minors who had very bimodal projections, meaning they were much more likely to be either awesome or terrible than they were to be simply middling. Those pitchers were Tanner Scott and Michael Kopech. Scott seems to have fulfilled the former possibility, finally nailing down his command and having an elite 2023 season. Kopech, unfortunately, looks a lot worse than he did three or four years ago. It’s a complicated case and certainly involves more than injury, but the projections are now pretty bearish on him. I’d still start him for now — him struggling will likely have next to no effect on Chicago’s playoff odds — but I think we’re nearing the point where if he puts it together, it’s going to have to be in the late innings.

ZiPS only projects four White Sox pitchers with an ERA+ of 100 or better, and three of them are in the bullpen: Garrett Crochet, Gregory Santos, and Tanner Banks. The Sox should give Crochet every opportunity to start — he’d have a lot more value to the team if it works out and weakening the bullpen to give him a shot at the rotation has little practical danger. ZiPS is sold that the free passes are behind Santos; both his first-strike percentage and out-of-zone swing percentage, two leading indicators of future walk rate, were above average, lending credence to the idea that his low 2023 walk numbers weren’t a mirage. The elbow soreness that cost him the last week of the season and might creep into the early part of early 2024 is the more concerning thing. The computer doesn’t see any no-name relievers ready to surprise here.

Overall, the White Sox have a few interesting players, but will likely contend with the Rockies and Athletics to be the worst team in baseball in 2024, even if they hang on to Cease. ZiPS projects 65-70 wins for the Sox, but a Cease trade could put them “over the top” in this depressing footrace.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here. Size of player names is very roughly proportional to Depth Chart playing time.

Batters – Standard
Player B Age PO PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS
Luis Robert R 26 CF 543 502 77 134 29 1 28 89 30 136 17 4
YoƔn Moncada B 29 3B 477 428 54 108 24 1 14 55 43 132 2 1
Eloy JimƩnez R 27 RF 479 440 53 123 22 0 21 71 34 99 0 1
Yasmani Grandal B 35 C 382 328 35 75 12 0 11 39 48 85 0 1
Andrew Benintendi L 29 LF 596 531 77 146 31 3 10 61 57 88 13 2
Andrew Vaughn R 26 1B 600 543 65 143 29 1 24 83 43 110 0 1
Paul DeJong R 30 SS 437 394 49 83 16 0 18 51 32 132 4 3
Max Stassi R 33 C 291 257 31 55 9 1 9 29 28 89 0 1
Nicky Lopez L 29 2B 419 371 49 89 13 3 2 29 35 62 10 3
Wynton Bernard R 33 CF 475 439 61 103 19 2 8 48 31 103 21 4
Elvis Andrus R 35 2B 444 408 48 100 20 1 8 48 29 74 12 3
Tim Anderson R 31 SS 488 462 63 124 20 1 7 42 22 104 12 3
Romy Gonzalez R 27 2B 305 284 38 64 12 1 11 39 17 102 14 2
Colson Montgomery L 22 SS 351 302 42 69 13 2 8 42 37 83 1 2
Bryan Ramos R 22 3B 434 397 48 92 13 1 15 54 29 103 2 2
Edgar Quero B 21 C 494 428 51 99 21 0 8 53 51 98 2 2
Lenyn Sosa R 24 2B 509 480 53 116 20 1 15 60 21 121 1 3
Braden Shewmake L 26 2B 462 431 57 96 19 2 12 45 24 106 13 1
Brett Phillips L 30 CF 339 291 44 53 7 3 10 34 39 132 10 2
Jacob Burke R 23 CF 375 336 45 74 17 2 5 46 22 102 8 4
Zach Remillard R 30 2B 420 375 51 83 14 1 6 40 32 107 12 4
Alsander Womack R 25 2B 479 433 41 101 12 1 7 45 38 89 4 3
Kean Wong L 29 2B 374 341 41 82 11 2 4 34 29 87 11 3
Chuckie Robinson R 29 C 351 325 35 74 11 1 8 38 20 81 3 1
Loidel Chapelli L 22 2B 450 405 58 88 16 5 9 48 38 124 12 4
Tyler Neslony L 30 LF 367 333 40 76 19 1 9 40 31 98 9 4
Hanser Alberto R 31 3B 228 217 26 56 13 1 4 23 6 28 1 1
Michael Turner L 25 C 382 334 33 77 20 1 3 35 42 72 0 1
Terrell Tatum L 24 CF 500 423 59 85 19 3 5 44 60 163 20 5
Jose A. Rodriguez R 23 2B 514 491 66 118 19 2 14 58 19 111 18 7
Adam Haseley L 28 CF 385 354 40 82 13 2 6 38 24 75 8 3
Adam Hackenberg R 24 C 375 340 33 75 13 0 6 39 26 98 1 1
Brooks Baldwin B 23 3B 384 351 46 78 12 2 10 41 25 105 9 2
Oscar ColƔs L 25 RF 513 478 63 114 20 1 19 63 28 132 5 3
Victor Reyes B 29 RF 466 438 52 108 20 2 11 55 22 114 4 2
Korey Lee R 25 C 420 393 47 86 17 1 11 44 23 120 7 2
Yolbert Sanchez R 27 3B 451 422 38 105 13 1 3 38 21 79 4 4
Ben Norman L 26 LF 242 219 26 42 8 0 8 27 19 94 6 1
Gavin Sheets L 28 RF 405 369 38 90 17 0 14 52 31 83 1 1
Yoelqui CƩspedes R 26 CF 473 432 51 92 21 1 9 55 24 157 11 6
Shawn Goosenberg R 24 1B 399 360 44 78 15 2 7 43 29 114 13 3
Stephen Piscotty R 33 LF 241 220 24 50 9 0 7 29 17 62 1 1
Tyler Naquin L 33 RF 338 313 36 70 14 2 10 39 19 104 3 1
Ivan Gonzalez R 27 C 172 157 14 33 6 0 1 13 12 35 1 1
Laz Rivera R 29 2B 242 222 24 49 9 1 3 23 12 66 5 4
MoisƩs Castillo R 24 SS 434 397 43 86 15 0 4 37 30 98 3 2
Victor Torres R 23 C 182 172 14 34 5 0 3 18 4 57 0 1
Xavier FernƔndez R 28 1B 360 331 34 81 16 0 8 40 24 67 0 1
Tim Elko R 25 1B 526 498 56 110 18 2 22 74 22 197 0 0
Andy Atwood R 27 3B 200 185 14 36 8 1 1 16 9 61 4 1
Evan Skoug L 28 DH 201 177 20 31 8 0 5 21 19 69 0 1
Clint Frazier R 29 CF 361 315 36 64 14 1 8 36 38 113 5 3
Colby Smelley R 24 C 308 276 23 59 10 0 2 27 22 85 0 1
Luis Mieses L 24 RF 501 480 45 109 27 1 10 52 14 123 0 1
MartĆ­n Maldonado R 37 C 369 326 32 57 9 0 11 34 31 120 0 1
Tyler Osik R 27 1B 278 252 25 54 11 1 4 31 19 84 2 1
Chris Shaw L 30 DH 212 189 20 29 7 0 7 22 21 92 0 1
DJ Gladney R 22 LF 465 434 52 91 16 4 16 58 23 168 7 1
Jacob Gonzalez L 22 SS 342 308 29 68 12 1 4 36 23 63 1 1
Duke Ellis L 26 CF 343 311 38 60 9 1 4 27 25 115 16 4
Wilfred Veras R 21 RF 566 536 61 124 27 2 16 70 20 177 11 3
Caberea Weaver R 24 LF 345 325 33 60 10 1 6 32 14 146 9 4

Batters – Advanced
Player PA BA OBP SLG OPS+ ISO BABIP Def WAR wOBA RC
Luis Robert 543 .267 .319 .496 121 .229 .314 6 3.6 .345 84
YoƔn Moncada 477 .252 .325 .411 102 .159 .333 1 1.7 .320 58
Eloy JimƩnez 479 .280 .332 .473 119 .193 .319 -3 1.4 .344 69
Yasmani Grandal 382 .229 .330 .366 93 .137 .276 1 1.4 .309 40
Andrew Benintendi 596 .275 .345 .401 106 .126 .314 -1 1.3 .325 77
Andrew Vaughn 600 .263 .327 .453 113 .190 .291 -2 1.3 .336 81
Paul DeJong 437 .211 .279 .388 82 .178 .266 5 1.1 .290 45
Max Stassi 291 .214 .299 .362 82 .148 .289 6 1.1 .292 28
Nicky Lopez 419 .240 .313 .307 73 .067 .283 8 0.9 .281 39
Wynton Bernard 475 .235 .288 .342 74 .107 .290 6 0.8 .278 49
Elvis Andrus 444 .245 .300 .358 81 .113 .282 3 0.8 .289 47
Tim Anderson 488 .268 .305 .361 84 .093 .333 -3 0.8 .292 55
Romy Gonzalez 305 .225 .273 .391 81 .165 .310 4 0.7 .285 34
Colson Montgomery 351 .228 .330 .364 92 .136 .289 -3 0.7 .308 37
Bryan Ramos 434 .232 .293 .383 85 .151 .276 2 0.7 .295 46
Edgar Quero 494 .231 .324 .336 84 .105 .283 -6 0.7 .297 48
Lenyn Sosa 509 .242 .276 .381 80 .140 .294 5 0.5 .283 52
Braden Shewmake 462 .223 .268 .360 72 .137 .268 4 0.4 .273 45
Brett Phillips 339 .182 .283 .330 69 .148 .289 4 0.3 .274 30
Jacob Burke 375 .220 .299 .327 74 .107 .301 3 0.3 .281 36
Zach Remillard 420 .221 .293 .312 68 .091 .294 4 0.2 .271 38
Alsander Womack 479 .233 .301 .314 71 .081 .279 4 0.2 .276 43
Kean Wong 374 .240 .303 .320 73 .079 .312 1 0.1 .277 36
Chuckie Robinson 351 .228 .282 .342 72 .114 .280 -1 0.1 .274 32
Loidel Chapelli 450 .217 .291 .348 76 .131 .290 -1 0.1 .282 45
Tyler Neslony 367 .228 .297 .372 84 .144 .296 3 0.1 .293 40
Hanser Alberto 228 .258 .283 .382 82 .124 .281 0 0.1 .287 24
Michael Turner 382 .231 .319 .323 79 .093 .286 -6 0.1 .290 35
Terrell Tatum 500 .201 .307 .296 68 .095 .314 1 0.1 .275 44
Jose A. Rodriguez 514 .240 .270 .373 76 .132 .284 1 0.1 .277 56
Adam Haseley 385 .232 .287 .331 71 .099 .278 2 0.0 .273 36
Adam Hackenberg 375 .221 .291 .312 67 .091 .292 -1 0.0 .271 31
Brooks Baldwin 384 .222 .274 .353 72 .131 .288 1 0.0 .273 37
Oscar ColƔs 513 .238 .285 .404 88 .165 .291 1 0.0 .296 57
Victor Reyes 466 .247 .285 .377 81 .130 .310 4 0.0 .287 49
Korey Lee 420 .219 .267 .351 69 .132 .286 -2 -0.1 .270 39
Yolbert Sanchez 451 .249 .288 .306 65 .057 .300 6 -0.1 .264 40
Ben Norman 242 .192 .260 .338 64 .146 .291 4 -0.2 .263 21
Gavin Sheets 405 .244 .304 .404 94 .160 .279 -5 -0.3 .306 46
Yoelqui CƩspedes 473 .213 .276 .329 67 .116 .312 2 -0.3 .268 44
Shawn Goosenberg 399 .217 .288 .328 70 .111 .297 5 -0.3 .274 38
Stephen Piscotty 241 .227 .290 .364 80 .136 .285 -1 -0.4 .287 24
Tyler Naquin 338 .224 .273 .377 78 .153 .302 1 -0.4 .280 33
Ivan Gonzalez 172 .210 .273 .268 51 .057 .264 -2 -0.5 .246 12
Laz Rivera 242 .221 .275 .311 62 .090 .301 -1 -0.5 .261 22
MoisƩs Castillo 434 .217 .281 .285 58 .068 .278 -1 -0.6 .256 33
Victor Torres 182 .198 .232 .279 41 .081 .277 -1 -0.7 .226 12
Xavier FernƔndez 360 .245 .297 .366 82 .121 .285 -3 -0.7 .290 36
Tim Elko 526 .221 .257 .398 77 .177 .315 3 -0.7 .280 51
Andy Atwood 200 .195 .242 .265 41 .070 .285 1 -0.8 .227 13
Evan Skoug 201 .175 .269 .305 59 .130 .252 0 -0.8 .256 15
Clint Frazier 361 .203 .299 .330 74 .127 .289 -10 -0.9 .283 33
Colby Smelley 308 .214 .289 .272 57 .058 .302 -6 -0.9 .257 22
Luis Mieses 501 .227 .251 .350 64 .123 .285 7 -0.9 .259 43
MartĆ­n Maldonado 369 .175 .254 .304 54 .129 .236 -5 -1.0 .250 26
Tyler Osik 278 .214 .284 .313 66 .099 .305 -2 -1.0 .268 23
Chris Shaw 212 .153 .245 .302 50 .148 .244 0 -1.0 .246 14
DJ Gladney 465 .210 .258 .376 72 .166 .300 -4 -1.2 .273 44
Jacob Gonzalez 342 .221 .287 .305 64 .084 .266 -12 -1.4 .264 28
Duke Ellis 343 .193 .261 .267 47 .074 .292 -4 -1.4 .240 27
Wilfred Veras 566 .231 .263 .379 75 .147 .315 -4 -1.4 .275 57
Caberea Weaver 345 .185 .229 .277 39 .092 .312 4 -1.7 .224 24

Batters – Top Near-Age Offensive Comps
Player Hit Comp 1 Hit Comp 2 Hit Comp 3
Luis Robert Andre Dawson Al Simmons Mike Davis
YoƔn Moncada Jarrod Patterson Jim Davenport Pinky Higgins
Eloy JimƩnez Mike Ivie Allen Craig Lourdes Gurriel Jr.
Yasmani Grandal A.J. Ellis Gregg Zaun Miguel Montero
Andrew Benintendi Orlando Gonzalez Carson Bigbee Lenny Green
Andrew Vaughn Kevin Millar Chad Tracy Aubrey Huff
Paul DeJong Danny Espinosa Pep Young Jayson Nix
Max Stassi Jamie Quirk Rick Wilkins Matthew LeCroy
Nicky Lopez Justin Henry Don Blasingame Jeff Pickler
Wynton Bernard Rich Thompson Calvin Murray Mike Kreevich
Elvis Andrus Cookie Rojas Mark Ellis Erick Aybar
Tim Anderson Leury GarcĆ­a Walter Barbare Mark Grudzielanek
Romy Gonzalez Bill Barrett Paul Noce Roberto Mejia ė©”ķžˆģ•„
Colson Montgomery Todd Betts Greg Garcia Jake Thrower
Bryan Ramos Luis Iglesias Elehuris Montero Steve Hertz
Edgar Quero Dioner Navarro Mike Brumley Phil Lombardi
Lenyn Sosa Brendan Rodgers Dave Hall Juan Lopez
Braden Shewmake Frank White Johnnie Walker Duane Espy
Brett Phillips Bob Montag Jed Hansen Louie Meadows
Jacob Burke Isaac Collins Rick Siriano Rich Barnwell
Zach Remillard Pokey Reese Dick Tracewski Elvis Pena
Alsander Womack Vern Followell Albert Lehrer C.J. Hinojosa
Kean Wong Adam Law Joe Pittman Trenidad Hubbard
Chuckie Robinson Andy Allanson Sonny Ruberto Russ Gibson
Loidel Chapelli Nick Capra Dionys Cesar Scott Earl
Tyler Neslony Matthew den Dekker Roger Bernadina ė²„ė‚˜ė””ė‚˜ Todd Hollandsworth
Hanser Alberto Joaquin Arias Garth Iorg Mario Diaz
Michael Turner Patrick Mazeika Andy Merchant Ellie Rodriguez
Terrell Tatum Stan Javier Randy Curtis Dexter Fowler
Jose A. Rodriguez Brodie Greene Jean Segura Belvani Martinez
Adam Haseley Clay Timpner Aharon Eggleston Bo Way
Adam Hackenberg John Purdom Josh Ford Dusty Wathan
Brooks Baldwin Jose Fernandez Shadrach Rolle Bryan Sabatella
Oscar ColƔs Reggie Montgomery Wes Chamberlain Chris Bourjos
Victor Reyes Steve Carter Gomer Hodge Gino Cimoli
Korey Lee Tracy Cowger Justin Knoedler Paul Casanova
Yolbert Sanchez Omar Luna Benjamin Perez Donald Domenichelli
Ben Norman Chris Durkin Tex Warfield Ron Shepherd
Gavin Sheets YermĆ­n Mercedes Rod Brewer Nomar Mazara
Yoelqui CƩspedes Frederick Wolcott Kerry Valrie Juan Piniella
Shawn Goosenberg Tim Jordan Don White Cornelio Garcia
Stephen Piscotty Ricky Ledee Paul Torres Armando Rios
Tyler Naquin Shane Peterson Joe Durham Dann Howitt
Ivan Gonzalez Jairo Rodriguez Francisco Diaz Michael Miller
Laz Rivera Rico Noel Bobby Dolan Al Weis
MoisƩs Castillo Pat Rockett Tim Hutting Chris Woodward
Victor Torres Rob Davis Toby Hernandez Juan Nunez
Xavier FernƔndez Ron Debus Jimmy Van Ostrand Tony Muser
Tim Elko Andres Galarraga Jose Barrios Gary Martz
Andy Atwood Dillon Hazlett Ernest Foli Todd Brown
Evan Skoug Don Ross Rock Shoulders Rich Daly
Clint Frazier Joe Benson Ryan Christenson Willie Argo
Colby Smelley Frank Colston John Purdom Josh Ford
Luis Mieses Frank Corr Scott Pugh Greg Monda
MartĆ­n Maldonado Louis Heyman Jim Sundberg Sandy Martinez
Tyler Osik Cael Brockmeyer Dan Gamache Cole White
Chris Shaw Kevin Garner Wayne Tyrone Andy Wilkins
DJ Gladney Jon Garcia Lucas May Ariel Sandoval
Jacob Gonzalez Lenny Faedo Jesus Merchan Brennan King
Duke Ellis Ethan Chapman Jarrod Dyson Kirvin Moesquit
Wilfred Veras Jesus de la Rosa Heliot Ramos Francisco Batista
Caberea Weaver Todd Isaacs Chase Mulvehill Preston Mattingly

Batters – 80th/20th Percentiles
Player 80th BA 80th OBP 80th SLG 80th OPS+ 80th WAR 20th BA 20th OBP 20th SLG 20th OPS+ 20th WAR
Luis Robert .293 .344 .562 143 5.2 .240 .292 .436 98 2.1
YoƔn Moncada .281 .356 .473 125 3.0 .228 .299 .364 84 0.6
Eloy JimƩnez .305 .360 .532 141 2.7 .249 .304 .419 98 0.2
Yasmani Grandal .257 .359 .412 112 2.2 .201 .299 .312 72 0.3
Andrew Benintendi .301 .370 .444 124 2.6 .247 .317 .357 88 0.0
Andrew Vaughn .289 .353 .507 134 2.8 .239 .300 .399 92 -0.2
Paul DeJong .235 .305 .446 103 2.3 .183 .256 .335 64 0.1
Max Stassi .242 .328 .418 101 1.8 .188 .267 .306 62 0.4
Nicky Lopez .268 .339 .341 91 1.8 .216 .287 .277 59 0.1
Wynton Bernard .262 .316 .389 93 1.9 .206 .260 .297 54 -0.4
Elvis Andrus .269 .328 .396 97 1.7 .217 .274 .313 63 -0.2
Tim Anderson .301 .335 .403 102 1.9 .242 .278 .322 67 -0.3
Romy Gonzalez .252 .299 .447 104 1.6 .199 .241 .334 58 -0.1
Colson Montgomery .256 .358 .412 111 1.5 .204 .307 .325 76 0.0
Bryan Ramos .262 .323 .437 105 1.8 .206 .267 .340 67 -0.3
Edgar Quero .256 .351 .374 99 1.7 .205 .295 .288 65 -0.5
Lenyn Sosa .268 .303 .432 98 1.7 .217 .257 .337 63 -0.6
Braden Shewmake .248 .297 .408 91 1.4 .198 .244 .316 55 -0.7
Brett Phillips .210 .315 .389 92 1.3 .157 .251 .278 46 -0.5
Jacob Burke .244 .319 .368 89 1.0 .194 .272 .292 57 -0.5
Zach Remillard .248 .323 .352 86 1.2 .198 .270 .273 51 -0.6
Alsander Womack .260 .328 .351 88 1.3 .205 .274 .273 55 -0.8
Kean Wong .269 .329 .360 90 0.9 .210 .271 .280 54 -0.8
Chuckie Robinson .262 .315 .387 94 1.1 .203 .257 .300 56 -0.5
Loidel Chapelli .244 .313 .399 94 1.1 .194 .266 .304 57 -0.9
Tyler Neslony .255 .329 .423 105 1.0 .205 .268 .324 64 -0.8
Hanser Alberto .287 .315 .430 101 0.7 .229 .256 .339 63 -0.4
Michael Turner .257 .348 .365 98 0.9 .202 .290 .279 61 -0.7
Terrell Tatum .224 .334 .335 85 1.2 .174 .279 .260 52 -0.9
Jose A. Rodriguez .264 .293 .418 91 1.0 .216 .247 .333 58 -1.1
Adam Haseley .258 .315 .376 90 0.9 .207 .264 .292 55 -0.7
Adam Hackenberg .248 .316 .354 85 0.8 .194 .266 .277 53 -0.7
Brooks Baldwin .246 .301 .411 94 1.0 .192 .249 .309 54 -0.9
Oscar ColƔs .263 .308 .455 108 1.2 .214 .259 .361 71 -1.2
Victor Reyes .276 .312 .425 100 1.0 .223 .259 .327 63 -1.2
Korey Lee .247 .295 .397 89 1.1 .194 .242 .307 52 -0.9
Yolbert Sanchez .278 .314 .340 80 0.8 .219 .259 .267 46 -1.2
Ben Norman .222 .287 .390 83 0.3 .167 .233 .281 43 -0.9
Gavin Sheets .270 .333 .456 116 0.9 .216 .276 .353 75 -1.2
Yoelqui CƩspedes .239 .299 .373 85 0.7 .189 .250 .293 51 -1.3
Shawn Goosenberg .247 .316 .377 92 0.8 .193 .261 .285 54 -1.1
Stephen Piscotty .265 .326 .428 105 0.4 .196 .261 .306 57 -1.0
Tyler Naquin .253 .301 .438 101 0.6 .198 .246 .327 59 -1.2
Ivan Gonzalez .244 .308 .309 72 0.0 .180 .243 .229 34 -0.9
Laz Rivera .249 .305 .359 81 0.1 .196 .250 .273 47 -1.0
MoisƩs Castillo .242 .308 .322 74 0.2 .192 .257 .250 41 -1.5
Victor Torres .236 .269 .331 63 -0.2 .170 .205 .230 20 -1.2
Xavier FernƔndez .271 .323 .416 102 0.1 .214 .266 .320 63 -1.6
Tim Elko .246 .284 .452 100 0.7 .194 .232 .347 58 -2.0
Andy Atwood .223 .269 .305 59 -0.3 .167 .215 .228 23 -1.2
Evan Skoug .203 .298 .363 82 -0.2 .151 .238 .265 42 -1.3
Clint Frazier .226 .327 .369 92 -0.2 .176 .272 .286 57 -1.7
Colby Smelley .243 .316 .312 74 -0.2 .183 .260 .237 40 -1.5
Luis Mieses .252 .278 .392 82 0.1 .199 .225 .305 47 -2.0
MartĆ­n Maldonado .205 .281 .362 78 0.0 .150 .228 .251 36 -1.8
Tyler Osik .239 .311 .359 82 -0.4 .187 .258 .275 47 -1.6
Chris Shaw .181 .276 .364 73 -0.5 .130 .214 .248 30 -1.6
DJ Gladney .240 .289 .433 95 0.2 .182 .235 .328 55 -2.3
Jacob Gonzalez .254 .319 .357 88 -0.4 .192 .260 .263 47 -2.1
Duke Ellis .221 .287 .304 65 -0.6 .166 .234 .230 32 -2.1
Wilfred Veras .258 .288 .426 92 -0.2 .209 .239 .335 56 -2.7
Caberea Weaver .216 .256 .328 59 -0.8 .164 .206 .241 22 -2.5

Batters – Projected Splits
Player BA vs. L OBP vs. L SLG vs. L BA vs. R OBP vs. R SLG vs. R
Luis Robert .281 .336 .518 .262 .312 .488
YoƔn Moncada .248 .315 .410 .254 .329 .412
Eloy JimƩnez .283 .343 .472 .278 .327 .473
Yasmani Grandal .235 .340 .376 .226 .326 .362
Andrew Benintendi .262 .331 .369 .279 .349 .413
Andrew Vaughn .268 .337 .459 .262 .322 .451
Paul DeJong .204 .281 .389 .213 .278 .388
Max Stassi .209 .296 .349 .216 .301 .368
Nicky Lopez .230 .300 .310 .244 .318 .306
Wynton Bernard .243 .297 .373 .229 .283 .321
Elvis Andrus .250 .307 .379 .243 .297 .349
Tim Anderson .289 .326 .383 .260 .297 .353
Romy Gonzalez .237 .291 .415 .217 .260 .373
Colson Montgomery .220 .319 .340 .233 .336 .376
Bryan Ramos .241 .305 .411 .226 .285 .364
Edgar Quero .238 .326 .350 .228 .323 .328
Lenyn Sosa .249 .290 .386 .237 .266 .378
Braden Shewmake .213 .257 .335 .228 .275 .375
Brett Phillips .171 .264 .303 .186 .289 .340
Jacob Burke .220 .304 .350 .220 .297 .318
Zach Remillard .228 .308 .321 .216 .282 .305
Alsander Womack .237 .311 .311 .232 .296 .315
Kean Wong .240 .300 .310 .241 .305 .325
Chuckie Robinson .235 .289 .345 .223 .278 .340
Loidel Chapelli .217 .282 .330 .217 .294 .355
Tyler Neslony .218 .285 .345 .234 .304 .388
Hanser Alberto .272 .298 .407 .250 .275 .368
Michael Turner .216 .300 .299 .236 .327 .333
Terrell Tatum .195 .294 .280 .203 .312 .302
Jose A. Rodriguez .248 .282 .386 .235 .262 .363
Adam Haseley .221 .280 .320 .237 .291 .336
Adam Hackenberg .227 .298 .319 .217 .287 .308
Brooks Baldwin .225 .273 .353 .221 .275 .353
Oscar ColƔs .235 .280 .373 .240 .287 .418
Victor Reyes .252 .294 .386 .244 .282 .373
Korey Lee .224 .281 .382 .215 .256 .329
Yolbert Sanchez .262 .306 .311 .238 .274 .301
Ben Norman .182 .247 .303 .196 .266 .353
Gavin Sheets .233 .293 .378 .247 .307 .412
Yoelqui CƩspedes .218 .279 .345 .210 .274 .318
Shawn Goosenberg .217 .294 .340 .217 .286 .323
Stephen Piscotty .242 .315 .379 .221 .280 .357
Tyler Naquin .214 .267 .343 .226 .275 .387
Ivan Gonzalez .204 .271 .241 .214 .274 .282
Laz Rivera .223 .284 .298 .219 .268 .320
MoisƩs Castillo .215 .287 .295 .218 .278 .278
Victor Torres .205 .237 .274 .192 .229 .283
Xavier FernƔndez .248 .305 .364 .243 .292 .366
Tim Elko .221 .259 .409 .221 .255 .393
Andy Atwood .197 .246 .246 .194 .241 .274
Evan Skoug .164 .261 .262 .181 .273 .328
Clint Frazier .202 .307 .330 .204 .295 .330
Colby Smelley .223 .302 .298 .209 .282 .258
Luis Mieses .214 .243 .318 .235 .256 .368
MartĆ­n Maldonado .181 .265 .324 .172 .249 .294
Tyler Osik .223 .298 .330 .208 .274 .302
Chris Shaw .141 .225 .266 .160 .255 .320
DJ Gladney .211 .259 .388 .209 .257 .369
Jacob Gonzalez .211 .280 .278 .225 .289 .317
Duke Ellis .191 .255 .262 .194 .266 .271
Wilfred Veras .235 .271 .388 .230 .260 .374
Caberea Weaver .186 .233 .274 .184 .227 .278

Pitchers – Standard
Player T Age W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO
Dylan Cease R 28 9 8 3.90 30 30 166.0 144 72 19 71 196
Mike Clevinger R 33 7 9 4.55 23 23 118.7 117 60 18 39 104
Cristian Mena R 21 6 7 4.74 26 26 123.3 121 65 17 53 110
Erick Fedde R 31 9 11 4.86 25 25 133.3 138 72 24 43 129
Gregory Santos R 24 2 2 3.54 62 0 68.7 63 27 4 18 79
Davis Martin R 27 6 7 4.58 22 20 92.3 92 47 13 35 87
Mason Adams R 24 4 6 4.68 21 12 98.0 101 51 14 26 76
Mike Soroka R 26 5 6 4.76 22 21 104.0 106 55 15 34 88
Michael Kopech R 28 6 8 4.82 28 22 112.0 100 60 18 59 115
Nick Nastrini R 24 5 7 4.90 24 24 104.7 99 57 15 52 105
Chris Flexen R 29 5 7 5.08 28 18 113.3 131 64 17 41 86
Jesse Scholtens R 30 5 6 4.85 29 17 104.0 110 56 15 38 86
Jonathan Cannon R 23 5 6 4.98 24 24 112.0 122 62 16 38 68
Jared Shuster L 25 6 9 5.09 24 23 116.7 121 66 17 48 89
Shane Drohan L 25 6 9 5.04 24 23 109.0 111 61 16 55 90
Liam Hendriks R 35 4 3 3.77 47 0 45.3 38 19 7 14 60
Tanner Banks L 32 3 3 4.30 37 4 73.3 75 35 11 20 67
Ky Bush L 24 5 7 4.93 19 19 80.3 83 44 11 33 63
Jonathan Stiever R 27 4 4 4.74 14 14 62.7 66 33 10 22 54
John Parke L 29 4 6 5.07 20 16 87.0 99 49 12 32 54
Chase Solesky R 26 5 8 5.16 23 22 99.3 113 57 15 39 65
Sean Burke R 24 4 6 5.04 20 19 75.0 73 42 10 41 69
Garrett Crochet L 25 4 4 3.98 55 0 54.3 46 24 7 27 65
Johan Dominguez R 28 4 5 4.97 17 17 63.3 68 35 10 22 51
Sammy Peralta L 26 5 5 4.58 39 4 74.7 75 38 10 23 65
Garrett Davila L 27 5 8 5.24 27 17 101.3 107 59 14 47 75
Matthew Thompson R 23 7 11 5.37 26 26 114.0 116 68 17 63 90
Nate Fisher L 28 4 7 5.20 23 16 88.3 94 51 13 36 61
Kohl Simas R 24 4 6 5.18 20 15 74.7 77 43 12 35 63
Josimar Cousin R 26 2 2 5.13 15 15 54.3 60 31 8 15 31
Mike Mayers R 32 4 5 5.14 32 11 82.3 87 47 13 33 65
John Brebbia R 34 3 4 4.47 48 8 44.3 43 22 7 15 46
Jake Eder L 25 3 6 5.24 15 15 67.0 63 39 10 39 65
Touki Toussaint R 28 4 5 5.21 20 14 76.0 68 44 11 43 72
Jimmy Lambert R 29 2 4 4.94 40 7 54.7 54 30 9 27 53
Garrett Schoenle L 26 4 6 5.38 30 15 85.3 86 51 13 47 73
Jordan Leasure R 25 2 3 4.44 43 0 46.7 41 23 7 22 51
Matt Foster R 29 2 1 4.42 39 0 38.7 38 19 6 13 37
Jake Cousins R 29 2 2 4.58 35 0 37.3 32 19 6 17 46
Deivi GarcĆ­a R 25 3 5 5.32 27 8 64.3 63 38 10 36 59
Lincoln Henzman R 28 2 4 5.37 28 9 60.3 68 36 9 26 43
Brent Honeywell R 29 2 4 5.20 33 5 53.7 57 31 9 22 43
J.B. Olson R 29 1 3 5.27 27 6 42.7 49 25 6 15 26
Andrew PƩrez L 26 3 5 4.91 40 1 58.7 59 32 8 24 51
Alex Speas R 26 2 2 4.88 48 0 48.0 40 26 6 27 54
Chad Kuhl R 31 3 6 5.76 19 13 75.0 74 48 13 44 69
Jonah Scolaro L 25 2 3 5.04 34 1 60.7 59 34 9 30 57
Jeremiah Burke R 26 1 3 5.31 22 2 40.7 44 24 6 18 29
Luke Farrell R 33 2 3 5.51 28 7 50.7 56 31 9 25 39
JosƩ UreƱa R 32 3 5 5.78 16 13 67.0 74 43 11 32 47
Jordan Holloway R 28 2 5 5.48 27 5 42.7 38 26 7 32 48
Lane Ramsey R 27 3 5 5.11 46 1 49.3 49 28 7 27 49
Haylen Green L 26 2 3 5.13 39 1 52.7 55 30 8 21 40
Tommy Sommer L 25 2 4 5.90 19 16 71.7 75 47 11 46 49
Daniel Ponce de Leon R 32 3 7 5.87 17 14 61.3 64 40 10 40 51
Adisyn Coffey R 25 1 3 5.14 38 0 42.0 43 24 6 20 34
Justin Anderson R 31 1 3 5.40 23 1 31.7 30 19 5 18 34
Hunter Dollander R 27 3 4 5.58 22 5 50.0 53 31 8 28 38
Nash Walters R 27 3 4 5.20 38 1 45.0 44 26 7 24 44
Chase Plymell R 26 3 6 5.07 37 1 60.3 65 34 9 30 46
Ben Holmes L 32 2 4 5.45 24 2 33.0 35 20 6 16 28
Alejandro Mateo R 30 1 2 5.25 38 1 48.0 50 28 8 25 44
Fraser Ellard L 26 1 2 5.18 29 0 33.0 34 19 5 19 30
Jared Kelley R 22 3 5 5.89 25 9 62.7 65 41 9 46 49
Chris Muller R 28 1 2 5.45 34 0 38.0 38 23 6 23 36
Luke Shilling R 26 0 0 7.07 15 1 14.0 14 11 2 14 13
Tristan Stivors R 25 3 6 5.35 33 0 35.3 33 21 5 22 37
Vince Vannelle R 26 2 4 5.37 32 1 52.0 57 31 8 27 36
Bryan Shaw R 36 2 2 5.30 52 0 54.3 54 32 8 28 46
Brooks Gosswein L 25 2 6 6.14 19 14 63.0 70 43 10 43 42
Tim Hill L 34 2 3 5.44 47 0 41.3 48 25 7 13 26
Nicholas Padilla R 27 2 3 5.44 41 0 48.0 48 29 7 30 47
Alex ColomƩ R 35 2 4 5.63 40 0 38.3 43 24 7 18 27
Caleb Freeman R 26 1 1 5.85 33 0 32.3 33 21 5 24 28
Edgar Navarro R 26 2 3 5.68 46 0 50.7 52 32 8 32 41
Gil Luna Jr. L 24 1 3 6.35 36 0 34.0 31 24 5 32 35

Pitchers – Advanced
Player IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BB% K% BABIP ERA+ FIP ERA- WAR
Dylan Cease 166.0 10.6 3.8 1.0 9.9% 27.5% .300 111 3.79 90 3.0
Mike Clevinger 118.7 7.9 3.0 1.4 7.7% 20.5% .289 95 4.64 105 1.4
Cristian Mena 123.3 8.0 3.9 1.2 9.7% 20.1% .293 91 4.65 110 1.3
Erick Fedde 133.3 8.7 2.9 1.6 7.5% 22.4% .303 89 4.70 113 1.2
Gregory Santos 68.7 10.4 2.4 0.5 6.3% 27.7% .324 122 2.72 82 1.1
Davis Martin 92.3 8.5 3.4 1.3 8.7% 21.5% .300 94 4.53 106 1.1
Mason Adams 98.0 7.0 2.4 1.3 6.2% 18.1% .292 92 4.57 109 1.0
Mike Soroka 104.0 7.6 2.9 1.3 7.6% 19.6% .296 91 4.68 110 1.0
Michael Kopech 112.0 9.2 4.7 1.4 12.0% 23.4% .278 89 5.01 112 0.9
Nick Nastrini 104.7 9.0 4.5 1.3 11.1% 22.5% .294 88 4.80 114 0.9
Chris Flexen 113.3 6.8 3.3 1.4 8.1% 17.0% .318 93 4.85 107 0.9
Jesse Scholtens 104.0 7.4 3.3 1.3 8.4% 18.9% .304 89 4.69 112 0.9
Jonathan Cannon 112.0 5.5 3.1 1.3 7.7% 13.8% .290 87 4.94 115 0.9
Jared Shuster 116.7 6.9 3.7 1.3 9.3% 17.3% .292 85 4.88 118 0.8
Shane Drohan 109.0 7.4 4.5 1.3 11.2% 18.3% .293 86 5.14 117 0.7
Liam Hendriks 45.3 11.9 2.8 1.4 7.4% 31.6% .298 114 3.61 87 0.7
Tanner Banks 73.3 8.2 2.5 1.4 6.4% 21.5% .302 100 4.32 100 0.7
Ky Bush 80.3 7.1 3.7 1.2 9.2% 17.6% .295 88 4.81 114 0.7
Jonathan Stiever 62.7 7.8 3.2 1.4 7.9% 19.4% .303 91 4.80 110 0.6
John Parke 87.0 5.6 3.3 1.2 8.2% 13.9% .303 85 5.05 117 0.6
Chase Solesky 99.3 5.9 3.5 1.4 8.7% 14.6% .303 84 5.15 120 0.6
Sean Burke 75.0 8.3 4.9 1.2 12.1% 20.4% .294 86 4.95 117 0.5
Garrett Crochet 54.3 10.8 4.5 1.2 11.4% 27.4% .291 109 4.08 92 0.5
Johan Dominguez 63.3 7.2 3.1 1.4 7.9% 18.3% .302 87 4.88 115 0.5
Sammy Peralta 74.7 7.8 2.8 1.2 7.2% 20.2% .297 94 4.38 106 0.5
Garrett Davila 101.3 6.7 4.2 1.2 10.3% 16.5% .296 82 5.17 121 0.5
Matthew Thompson 114.0 7.1 5.0 1.3 12.0% 17.2% .289 80 5.46 124 0.5
Nate Fisher 88.3 6.2 3.7 1.3 9.2% 15.5% .291 83 5.28 120 0.4
Kohl Simas 74.7 7.6 4.2 1.4 10.5% 18.9% .294 83 5.26 120 0.4
Josimar Cousin 54.3 5.1 2.5 1.3 6.3% 13.0% .289 84 5.02 119 0.4
Mike Mayers 82.3 7.1 3.6 1.4 9.0% 17.8% .296 84 5.04 119 0.4
John Brebbia 44.3 9.3 3.0 1.4 8.0% 24.5% .300 97 4.32 104 0.4
Jake Eder 67.0 8.7 5.2 1.3 12.8% 21.3% .288 82 5.31 121 0.4
Touki Toussaint 76.0 8.5 5.1 1.3 12.7% 21.3% .274 83 5.29 121 0.3
Jimmy Lambert 54.7 8.7 4.4 1.5 11.1% 21.7% .296 87 5.05 114 0.2
Garrett Schoenle 85.3 7.7 5.0 1.4 12.1% 18.8% .292 80 5.39 125 0.2
Jordan Leasure 46.7 9.8 4.2 1.4 10.8% 25.0% .283 97 4.50 103 0.2
Matt Foster 38.7 8.6 3.0 1.4 7.8% 22.3% .296 98 4.44 103 0.1
Jake Cousins 37.3 11.1 4.1 1.4 10.4% 28.2% .289 94 4.57 106 0.1
Deivi GarcĆ­a 64.3 8.3 5.0 1.4 12.4% 20.3% .291 81 5.40 123 0.1
Lincoln Henzman 60.3 6.4 3.9 1.3 9.5% 15.7% .307 80 5.26 124 0.1
Brent Honeywell 53.7 7.2 3.7 1.5 9.2% 18.0% .296 83 5.23 120 0.1
J.B. Olson 42.7 5.5 3.2 1.3 7.9% 13.8% .303 82 5.06 122 0.1
Andrew PƩrez 58.7 7.8 3.7 1.2 9.3% 19.7% .297 88 4.72 114 0.1
Alex Speas 48.0 10.1 5.1 1.1 12.4% 24.8% .281 89 4.76 113 0.0
Chad Kuhl 75.0 8.3 5.3 1.6 12.8% 20.1% .288 75 5.63 134 0.0
Jonah Scolaro 60.7 8.5 4.5 1.3 11.0% 20.9% .292 86 4.99 117 0.0
Jeremiah Burke 40.7 6.4 4.0 1.3 9.8% 15.8% .297 81 5.22 123 0.0
Luke Farrell 50.7 6.9 4.4 1.6 10.8% 16.9% .301 78 5.68 128 -0.1
JosƩ UreƱa 67.0 6.3 4.3 1.5 10.5% 15.5% .297 75 5.51 134 -0.1
Jordan Holloway 42.7 10.1 6.8 1.5 16.0% 24.0% .287 79 5.53 127 -0.1
Lane Ramsey 49.3 8.9 4.9 1.3 11.9% 21.6% .304 84 4.82 118 -0.1
Haylen Green 52.7 6.8 3.6 1.4 9.1% 17.2% .292 84 5.13 119 -0.1
Tommy Sommer 71.7 6.2 5.8 1.4 13.7% 14.6% .286 73 5.85 137 -0.1
Daniel Ponce de Leon 61.3 7.5 5.9 1.5 14.0% 17.9% .297 74 5.86 136 -0.1
Adisyn Coffey 42.0 7.3 4.3 1.3 10.5% 17.9% .294 84 4.92 119 -0.1
Justin Anderson 31.7 9.7 5.1 1.4 12.2% 23.1% .298 80 5.06 125 -0.1
Hunter Dollander 50.0 6.8 5.0 1.4 12.1% 16.5% .294 77 5.74 129 -0.1
Nash Walters 45.0 8.8 4.8 1.4 11.8% 21.6% .296 83 5.19 121 -0.1
Chase Plymell 60.3 6.9 4.5 1.3 10.9% 16.8% .301 85 5.21 118 -0.1
Ben Holmes 33.0 7.6 4.4 1.6 10.7% 18.7% .296 79 5.56 126 -0.2
Alejandro Mateo 48.0 8.3 4.7 1.5 11.4% 20.1% .302 82 5.21 122 -0.2
Fraser Ellard 33.0 8.2 5.2 1.4 12.3% 19.5% .302 83 5.32 120 -0.2
Jared Kelley 62.7 7.0 6.6 1.3 15.5% 16.6% .295 73 5.86 136 -0.2
Chris Muller 38.0 8.5 5.4 1.4 13.1% 20.5% .299 79 5.31 126 -0.2
Luke Shilling 14.0 8.4 9.0 1.3 19.7% 18.3% .300 61 6.47 164 -0.3
Tristan Stivors 35.3 9.4 5.6 1.3 13.5% 22.7% .295 81 5.29 124 -0.3
Vince Vannelle 52.0 6.2 4.7 1.4 11.1% 14.8% .297 80 5.49 124 -0.3
Bryan Shaw 54.3 7.6 4.6 1.3 11.5% 18.9% .289 81 5.19 123 -0.3
Brooks Gosswein 63.0 6.0 6.1 1.4 14.2% 13.9% .297 70 6.22 142 -0.3
Tim Hill 41.3 5.7 2.8 1.5 7.1% 14.2% .301 79 5.43 126 -0.3
Nicholas Padilla 48.0 8.8 5.6 1.3 13.4% 21.0% .304 79 5.38 126 -0.3
Alex ColomƩ 38.3 6.3 4.2 1.6 10.3% 15.4% .298 77 5.79 131 -0.4
Caleb Freeman 32.3 7.8 6.7 1.4 15.4% 17.9% .295 74 5.95 135 -0.4
Edgar Navarro 50.7 7.3 5.7 1.4 13.3% 17.1% .291 76 6.06 132 -0.5
Gil Luna Jr. 34.0 9.3 8.5 1.3 18.9% 20.7% .286 68 6.20 147 -0.6

Pitchers – Top Near-Age Comps
Player Pit Comp 1 Pit Comp 2 Pit Comp 3
Dylan Cease Bartolo Colon Chris Archer Chan Ho Park ė°•ģ°¬ķ˜ø
Mike Clevinger Chase Anderson Jason Hammel Alfredo Simon
Cristian Mena Jeff Sellers Trevor Cahill Gavin Floyd
Erick Fedde Bill Brenner John Conant Bob Snyder
Gregory Santos Kelvin Herrera Ray Burris Alan Guerrero
Davis Martin Paolo Espino Daryl Thompson Marco Estrada
Mason Adams Luis Cessa Matt Wisler Raul Alcantara
Mike Soroka Jim Melton Greg Perschke Tim Meeks
Michael Kopech Walt Masterson Joe Cowley Tom Phoebus
Nick Nastrini Tyler Clippard Steve Johnson Justin Miller
Chris Flexen Bob Kelly Mike Pelfrey Casey Kelly 켈리
Jesse Scholtens Jim Foxworth Bryan Bullington Dennis Springer
Jonathan Cannon Jose Urena Henderson Alvarez Jason Davis
Jared Shuster Yohander Mendez Sam Howard Bruce Zimmermann
Shane Drohan Shawn Morimando Dave Owen Mike Connolly
Liam Hendriks Lee Smith John Wetteland Tom Henke
Tanner Banks Bobby Shantz Bob Patterson Mike O’Connor
Ky Bush Larry Danforth Todd Douma Scott Christman
Jonathan Stiever Brian Aviles Mitch Wylie Paul Rigdon
John Parke Jasiel Acosta Ryan O’Malley Greg Smith
Chase Solesky Steve Hirschfeld Greg Ross Don Minnick
Sean Burke Art Ditmar Nicky Curtis Mike Weiss
Garrett Crochet Rex Brothers Kent Mercker Sparky Lyle
Johan Dominguez Mitch Wylie Matt Zidich Brian Aviles
Sammy Peralta Kevin Kobel Mike Willis Jason Kershner
Garrett Davila Kramer Sneed Kyle Hart Daniel Rosenbaum
Matthew Thompson Kyle Drabek Michael Lorenzen Mark Sappington
Nate Fisher Matt Blank Joe Magrane Matt Ruebel
Kohl Simas Charles Prediger Sheldon Andrews Mike Bellaman
Josimar Cousin Aaron West Mike Zamba Thomas Hallett
Mike Mayers Josh Smith Mike Griffin Ed Hobaugh
John Brebbia Lindy McDaniel Bruce Sutter David Hernandez
Jake Eder Azael Alvarez Steve Barr Bennett Parry
Touki Toussaint Chuck Estrada Jeff Robinson Jose de Jesus
Jimmy Lambert Pedro Beato Jason Childers Jason Arnold
Garrett Schoenle Barry Moore Daniel McGrath Ken Reynolds
Jordan Leasure Brad Voyles Manny Muniz Randor Bierd
Matt Foster Lee Gronkiewicz Casey Fien Aaron Cotter
Jake Cousins Jim Duffalo Rich Garces Danny Frisella
Deivi GarcĆ­a Gil Downs Carl Moraw Chris Bassitt
Lincoln Henzman Eric Boudreaux Mike Badorek Sean Gleason
Brent Honeywell Thomas Atlee Alfredo Simon A.J. Achter
J.B. Olson Dave Bennett Dave Eilers Joe Jacobsen
Andrew PƩrez Mike Myers Jeremy Papelbon Tom Bolton
Alex Speas Tommy Kahnle Chris Perez Shawn Armstrong
Chad Kuhl Jeff Robinson Jose G. Valdez Turk Lown
Jonah Scolaro Mike Mohler Efrain Valdez ė°œė°ģŠ¤ Ramiro Martinez
Jeremiah Burke Billy Biggs Brad Pautz Ty Kelley
Luke Farrell Don Bradey Felipe Arredondo Sergio Lizarraga
JosƩ UreƱa Homer Bailey Edwin Jackson Paul Wagner
Jordan Holloway Gene Pentz Jim Henderson Brandon Cunniff
Lane Ramsey Brennan Garr Joe Borowski Rocky Roquet
Haylen Green Ryan Sherriff Luis Pollorena Christian Torres
Tommy Sommer Dean Hummel Barry Moore Brett Mooneyham
Daniel Ponce de Leon Robert McCauley Sugar Cain Lucas Harrell 루칓스
Adisyn Coffey Matt Stites Angel Nesbitt Jesse Simpson
Justin Anderson Marc Deschenes Dick Selma Toby Borland
Hunter Dollander Vince Bongiovanni Julio De La Cruz Zach Cates
Nash Walters Jeff Austin Brandon Backe Juan Rosario
Chase Plymell Julio DePaula ė°ķ“ė¼ Anthony Moreno Chris Granata
Ben Holmes Jim Poole Jerry Augustine Rommie Lewis
Alejandro Mateo Steve Sundra Dick Pole Rodolfo Aguirre
Fraser Ellard Mike Guilfoyle William McLaurine Rich Pickett
Jared Kelley Brett Gideon James Owen Phil Mudrock
Chris Muller Francisco Rodriguez Mark Lamm Aris Tirado
Luke Shilling Steve Larose Jeff Brueggemann Dick Manville
Tristan Stivors Roger Hambright John Marchese Steve Wright
Vince Vannelle Aaron Pullin Grant Johnson Chris Haslock
Bryan Shaw Willie Banks Jose Mesa Moe Burtschy
Brooks Gosswein Michael Mader Anthony Ferrara James McCaskill
Tim Hill Atlee Hammaker Mark Thurmond Lee Guetterman
Nicholas Padilla Steve Cline Dan Boitano R.J. Seidel
Alex ColomƩ Domingo Jean Homer Gibson Dyar Miller
Caleb Freeman Mike Heinen Donald Hammitt Guy Hansen
Edgar Navarro Rafael Dolis Ryan Perry Barry Manuel
Gil Luna Jr. Joe Kraemer Tyler Ybarra David Ross

Pitchers – Splits and Percentiles
Player BA vs. L OBP vs. L SLG vs. L BA vs. R OBP vs. R SLG vs. R 80th WAR 20th WAR 80th ERA 20th ERA
Dylan Cease .241 .330 .396 .215 .292 .351 4.1 1.3 3.32 4.81
Mike Clevinger .253 .323 .444 .251 .312 .414 2.0 0.5 4.08 5.26
Cristian Mena .266 .338 .443 .237 .318 .400 2.1 0.4 4.17 5.42
Erick Fedde .265 .323 .467 .257 .313 .456 2.1 0.2 4.23 5.61
Gregory Santos .238 .301 .346 .237 .293 .326 1.9 0.0 2.69 4.98
Davis Martin .260 .335 .428 .247 .319 .421 1.6 0.4 4.03 5.29
Mason Adams .257 .315 .470 .263 .317 .400 1.6 0.4 4.13 5.30
Mike Soroka .277 .344 .484 .243 .312 .387 1.7 0.2 4.17 5.49
Michael Kopech .231 .335 .421 .236 .328 .412 1.7 -0.2 4.24 5.87
Nick Nastrini .250 .351 .434 .238 .325 .395 1.6 0.1 4.33 5.64
Chris Flexen .256 .325 .428 .308 .359 .498 1.5 0.3 4.52 5.71
Jesse Scholtens .270 .348 .427 .263 .318 .449 1.6 0.2 4.25 5.50
Jonathan Cannon .262 .335 .411 .279 .321 .478 1.4 0.3 4.55 5.49
Jared Shuster .278 .345 .496 .255 .324 .416 1.4 0.0 4.63 5.69
Shane Drohan .298 .376 .444 .242 .333 .428 1.4 0.0 4.51 5.64
Liam Hendriks .222 .284 .395 .222 .283 .400 1.4 0.0 2.32 6.10
Tanner Banks .250 .314 .402 .263 .310 .444 1.4 0.1 3.51 5.15
Ky Bush .276 .333 .418 .255 .333 .436 1.1 0.2 4.48 5.54
Jonathan Stiever .265 .341 .462 .265 .319 .432 1.1 0.1 4.12 5.60
John Parke .270 .331 .409 .286 .351 .475 1.0 0.0 4.63 5.67
Chase Solesky .278 .345 .417 .283 .344 .493 1.2 0.0 4.65 5.70
Sean Burke .262 .364 .454 .237 .331 .382 1.0 0.1 4.55 5.67
Garrett Crochet .230 .329 .377 .221 .309 .379 1.0 -0.1 3.19 5.25
Johan Dominguez .259 .326 .448 .277 .338 .453 0.9 0.1 4.43 5.60
Sammy Peralta .229 .306 .354 .268 .324 .455 1.1 -0.1 3.81 5.45
Garrett Davila .217 .311 .326 .288 .369 .485 1.1 -0.3 4.72 5.95
Matthew Thompson .234 .341 .373 .279 .368 .488 1.0 -0.3 4.93 6.03
Nate Fisher .259 .339 .402 .271 .349 .467 0.9 -0.2 4.75 5.88
Kohl Simas .252 .350 .452 .267 .343 .447 0.9 -0.2 4.64 5.88
Josimar Cousin .286 .333 .467 .263 .320 .430 0.6 0.1 4.74 5.67
Mike Mayers .256 .335 .462 .273 .335 .442 1.0 -0.2 4.46 5.88
John Brebbia .260 .333 .507 .240 .294 .380 0.8 -0.1 3.58 5.67
Jake Eder .222 .340 .333 .253 .362 .455 0.9 -0.1 4.61 5.94
Touki Toussaint .254 .380 .462 .217 .321 .354 0.9 -0.3 4.56 6.03
Jimmy Lambert .250 .345 .440 .254 .333 .439 0.7 -0.3 4.18 5.87
Garrett Schoenle .236 .339 .340 .265 .362 .483 0.7 -0.5 4.83 6.08
Jordan Leasure .235 .326 .420 .227 .309 .392 0.6 -0.2 3.74 5.14
Matt Foster .254 .321 .423 .250 .307 .450 0.5 -0.2 3.64 5.47
Jake Cousins .238 .360 .460 .215 .292 .367 0.5 -0.3 3.67 5.69
Deivi GarcĆ­a .271 .387 .449 .233 .327 .414 0.5 -0.4 4.78 6.06
Lincoln Henzman .287 .357 .452 .271 .354 .457 0.5 -0.3 4.82 6.01
Brent Honeywell .260 .345 .427 .271 .336 .483 0.5 -0.3 4.52 5.95
J.B. Olson .296 .367 .506 .269 .324 .409 0.4 -0.2 4.65 5.90
Andrew PƩrez .244 .320 .395 .262 .341 .434 0.5 -0.4 4.26 5.63
Alex Speas .233 .359 .337 .211 .327 .411 0.5 -0.7 4.13 6.26
Chad Kuhl .255 .377 .469 .248 .335 .430 0.5 -0.6 5.09 6.63
Jonah Scolaro .247 .330 .390 .250 .346 .438 0.4 -0.6 4.33 5.89
Jeremiah Burke .278 .360 .418 .262 .337 .476 0.2 -0.3 4.70 5.97
Luke Farrell .283 .380 .489 .268 .341 .464 0.3 -0.5 4.83 6.41
JosƩ UreƱa .299 .379 .507 .250 .327 .434 0.3 -0.5 5.21 6.48
Jordan Holloway .241 .362 .443 .226 .365 .405 0.3 -0.6 4.79 6.67
Lane Ramsey .261 .363 .420 .245 .331 .425 0.4 -0.5 4.30 5.96
Haylen Green .239 .313 .324 .275 .353 .500 0.3 -0.5 4.50 5.89
Tommy Sommer .250 .350 .432 .270 .374 .459 0.3 -0.6 5.38 6.57
Daniel Ponce de Leon .239 .360 .407 .285 .386 .485 0.3 -0.6 5.25 6.76
Adisyn Coffey .263 .349 .461 .256 .327 .411 0.2 -0.4 4.56 5.83
Justin Anderson .246 .358 .456 .242 .338 .409 0.2 -0.5 4.41 6.66
Hunter Dollander .272 .393 .489 .262 .339 .421 0.2 -0.5 5.02 6.28
Nash Walters .271 .386 .459 .231 .317 .407 0.2 -0.6 4.49 6.24
Chase Plymell .270 .359 .405 .269 .342 .477 0.2 -0.5 4.60 5.66
Ben Holmes .214 .313 .333 .289 .369 .533 0.1 -0.5 4.71 6.35
Alejandro Mateo .272 .368 .478 .253 .330 .424 0.2 -0.7 4.56 6.34
Fraser Ellard .227 .333 .318 .276 .373 .506 0.0 -0.5 4.68 6.03
Jared Kelley .252 .382 .439 .270 .377 .433 0.2 -0.8 5.28 6.74
Chris Muller .273 .377 .455 .241 .340 .434 0.0 -0.7 4.76 6.47
Luke Shilling .259 .429 .407 .250 .400 .429 -0.1 -0.4 6.04 8.50
Tristan Stivors .254 .390 .397 .230 .341 .432 0.0 -0.6 4.76 6.30
Vince Vannelle .270 .368 .470 .275 .344 .440 0.0 -0.6 4.86 5.97
Bryan Shaw .255 .355 .372 .252 .338 .471 0.2 -0.9 4.46 6.54
Brooks Gosswein .264 .393 .375 .280 .383 .505 0.1 -0.8 5.65 6.88
Tim Hill .258 .329 .394 .301 .360 .534 0.0 -0.6 4.67 6.20
Nicholas Padilla .281 .390 .472 .230 .350 .390 0.1 -0.8 4.72 6.37
Alex ColomƩ .278 .373 .486 .277 .344 .482 -0.1 -0.7 4.79 6.73
Caleb Freeman .267 .405 .467 .250 .358 .426 -0.1 -0.7 5.12 6.88
Edgar Navarro .284 .407 .500 .241 .358 .402 -0.2 -0.9 5.16 6.47
Gil Luna Jr. .238 .385 .357 .236 .400 .449 -0.3 -1.0 5.58 7.68

Here are how the ZiPS percentiles worked out in 2023 for pitchers and hitters in in 2023. Percentiles are based on the projected PA or TBF.

Players are listed with their most recent teams wherever possible. This includes players who are unsigned or have retired, players who will miss 2024 due to injury, and players who were released in 2023. So yes, if you see Joe Schmoe, who quit baseball back in August to form a Belgian Death Metal Skiffle Band that only plays songs by Franz Schubert, he’s still listed here intentionally. ZiPS is assuming a league with an ERA of 4.33.

Hitters are ranked by zWAR, which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those that appear in the full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.

As always, incorrect projections are either caused by flaws in the physical reality of the universe or by the skillful sabotage of our friend and former editor. You can, however, still get mad at me on Twitter.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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WanderingWinderMember since 2023
2 years ago

Instead, he’ll be a key cog in their quest to win 70 games.”

Not wrong, but ouch, that’s painful to read, even as someone with no connection to the team.

__AL
2 years ago

Flexen seems to be missing from the depth chart graphic.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  __AL

…but made it into the article! šŸ˜‰

MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago

When Jerry Reinsdorf chose Chris Getz as the GM after an exhaustive search of both offices adjacent to Rick Hahn’s, he said he did it because Getz knew the organization and so was in the bets position to turn things around fast. Imagine how this would look if he had brought in somebody who didn’t know the organization so well.

This also ignores that fact that Getz was objectively bad at his job as Director of Player Development. The only players that they “developed” into MLB average players were all blue chippers to start with and even a lot of them look to be coming in at the low end of their potential. Even guys that were 40’s or 45’s like Colas aren’t getting better in this organization and that was Getz’s responsibility.

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

If he brought in someone who didn’t know the organization, they’d be fired. Same reason the Bulls have been the same team for the past four seasons. Jerry Reinsdorf is the worst two-sport owner I can think of. He got handed Jordan and Pippen on a silver platter, and still almost managed to mess it up by constantly alienating everyone and their mothers in that org.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

I think you’re right (certainly, Reinsdorf is an inner-circle MLB villain/monster), and I wonder if Red Sox fans might want to have a word with you about their future…

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

When Jerry Reinsdorf chose Chris Getz as the GM after an exhaustive search of both offices adjacent to Rick Hahn’s”

Savage. Love it.

tootblan
2 years ago

It’s still wild to me that the White Sox decided that the best use of a bunch of spare cash was Andrew Benintendi.

MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  tootblan

“We led the league in singles last year (2022) and were 19th in SLG and 22nd in HR in our homer friendly park. Clearly we should give out our biggest free agent contract ever to a singles hitting corner outfielder.”

Last edited 2 years ago by MikeS
MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Did you notice my comment on that article where I disagreed and said basically what I said here?

I also predicted they would give RF to Colas, wouldn’t be serious about 2B, and might bring Andrus back to play it.

Jerry Reinsdorf’s teams may not be good, but they sure are predictable. On the Defector NBA preview of the Reinsdorf owned Bulls they said “They found something that worked, and then it stopped working, and then they just sort of started waiting for it to start working again.” That also fits the White Sox pretty well for the last 30 years.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

I actually did see your comment.

Fangraphs supporting a free agent signing is just as predictable as Reinsdorf’s team building strategy.

Chili Davis Eyes
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

I’m not about to criticize David Laurila, who is better at his job than I have ever been at any of mine, but relentless positivity is kind of his brand.

Brock244
2 years ago
Reply to  tootblan

I’m still convinced they signed him because they wanted to say they “got” Bennintendi and Moncada all these years after the Chris Sale trade

Last edited 2 years ago by Brock244
ChrisMember since 2022
2 years ago

It’s just so bad

Original Greaser Bob
2 years ago

It’s clear that Reinsdodorf is trying to pull a Major League but instead of Miami he’s heading to the South Loop? That tracks.

MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago

I think that’s just for leverage? But none of it makes sense.

If the City/County/State aren’t going to pay for a new stadium for the Bears, they sure as hell aren’t going to pay for one for the White Sox. So who is going to pay for it?

Moving to Nashville or Charlotte or Nashville makes no sense as those markets are so much smaller that even getting away from the Cubs doesn’t grow their fanbase, especially since those towns are full of Braves fans. Who would abandon the Braves for the White Sox in the next few years?

Their current lease runs through 2029. The Illinois Sports Facilities Authority might let them out of that if they stay in Illinois, but not if they move out of state.

Jerry Reinsdorf turns 88 next month. There is a good chance Jerry never sees a game played in a new stadium no matter where it is.

fjdMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Jerry’s going to live to 100 because we White Sox fans have sinned.

FrederikMember since 2022
2 years ago

Guaranteed Rate is a poor fit for getting the most out of his limited offensive game.”

I’ve been banging this drum since Benintendi signed. Honestly, one of the underrated aspects of the this org’s incompetence is seemingly having no idea how their park plays. Teaching their hitters an all fields, line drive approach (and targeting those hitters in FA) goes no where in Guarenteed Rate and probably a big reason why they’ve been so miserable at home.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

Chris Getz and Scott Boras out here trying to outwait each other in a standoff where they aren’t even facing each other. “It’ll get better once Snell and Montgomery sign”, Getz says. “It will be better once Cease gets traded,” Boras mutters.

jacksonv123
2 years ago

Colson Montgomery is 21, not 24.

jacksonv123
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan Szymborski

Sorry to nitpick but he’s (nearly) all we have

Cam78
2 years ago

I mean, trade Cease and Robert and probably end up with 3-4 top 100 prospects and get going for 2025-26.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Cam78

Do you trust anyone in this organization to develop a prospect? Anyone at all?

kswissreject
2 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Yeah, the whole trade Sale and the others for this window did not work out. With the same people in charge, why would anyone think this would turn out differently?

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  kswissreject

Getting Giolito for Adam Eaton worked out pretty well for a while, to be fair. And Moncada was at least kinda good for a while.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

Those were the stopped clock being right, ever so briefly, at 8:27 AM and again at 8:27 PM, I believe…

(Before going back to hour upon endless hour of being oh so wrong…)

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
2 years ago
Reply to  Cam78

Like they did about a half-decade ago with the Sale trade and others. It’s all cyclical for this team.

Last edited 2 years ago by TheGarrettCooperFanClub
EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago

The Leury Garcia top near-age comp for Tim Anderson… oof. I don’t even like him, and that’s an oof. Garcia’s age 31 season (last year) was worth -1.1 fWAR. That sucks for Anderson.

Last edited 2 years ago by EonADS
lavarnway
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

It’s impressive that Anderson was able to run his high-BABIP for as long as he did and mirage as a good hitter. Swinging at everything, beating every ball into the ground. and being allergic to walks finally caught up to him.

nelliseMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  lavarnway

Grifol said just yesterday he thinks Anderson is ready to break out of it and has him penciled in to hit lead-off on opening day.

HayvesMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  nellise

he’s penciling someone who isn’t on the team into the lineup?

nelliseMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  Hayves

Just a joke about how clueless Grifol is. He refused to move Anderson from the top of the order all season except for a few weeks where he put him at the 2-spot, always saying he knew Anderson was just one game from being back to his old ways.

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  lavarnway

Except that he didn’t hit everything into the ground, outside of his first couple seasons. He was one of the best at hitting balls into the “sweet spot” range of launch angles, which means soft line drives everywhere. Combine that with his elite speed, and it’s not surprising at all. But with leg injuries catching up with him, he can’t do it anymore. Too slow, not good swings because it starts with your base. He’s actually in just the 45th percentile of sprint speed now. He can’t keep it up, physically.

Last edited 2 years ago by EonADS
tung_twista
2 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

It was not surprising that Anderson ran high BABIP.
But that does not mean it wasn’t surprising that he ran .385 BABIP over 2+ seasons. (The highest BABIP for 2+ consecutive seasons in the 21st century)
Even Ichiro’s best consecutive 2 season BABIP was only .368.

EonADSMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

That was surprising, but Anderson having success in general on offense wasn’t. When you hit a babip that high, at an ideal launch angle, with elite speed, being a good hitter shouldn’t be that weird.

(equally, the second of those Anderson seasons was the 2020 pandemic season, and we have no reason to suspect he’d be able to sustain it for 162 games)

nelliseMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

What’s even more surprising is Anderson had a .399 BABIP in 2019 and didn’t even lead the team. Moncada had a .406 which is the 2nd highest since 1925 for a full season.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago

I also think that the White Sox should theoretically be trading Robert and Cease right now for whatever prospects they can get who could be up in 2025. They’re probably going to rush Montgomery but he’s not really ready yet, he’s probably best suited to learn how to play defense and iron out some stuff in 2024 before debuting it 2025. Ramos, Quero, and Eder are all like that too, with the only guys who look like they’re ready now are Mena and Nastrini. They should be cleaning house as much as they can, with Robert and Cease bringing back value and any other bad-clubhouse type gone ASAP. The longer they wait to trade these guys, the longer they have to wait for the prospects they get back to make it.

Problem is that I don’t see a ton of teams desperate for a center fielder and starting pitcher, even those as good as Cease and Robert. I can name several teams that should welcome Robert onto their roster (Rays, Reds, Phillies, Guardians) and I have a hard time seeing any of them making the call. For Cease, the problem the White Sox have is that the teams that really need Cease are still in prospect-hoarding mode, even if they shouldn’t be. There is no way the Reds and Orioles are going to be able to play all those position players with less than a couple of years of service time, and the Padres’ time is now and they’ve needed rotation help for a couple of years. But it doesn’t seem like it’s happening.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Yankees should absolutely be looking at Cease, at the cost of a Jones or Hampton plus a 45.

Both versions of WAR say he’s been a #2 over the last three years.

Fun-Hating DorkMember since 2019
2 years ago

I suspect that the starting price would be Jones and Hampton plus.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago

I’m just going off the Bob Nightengale report from last week.

catmanwayne
2 years ago

Why do Yankees homers think they can just get everyone’s best guy for what’s essentially pocket lint?

norisk
2 years ago
Reply to  catmanwayne

I mean, we do most of the time. Its just because our pocket lint looks fancy. I mean seriously other than maybe Duran (who was a rookie last year) and Judge the Yankees prospects who look really good in AA and AAA turn out being really bad.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  catmanwayne

My brother in Christ…maybe read the next comment?

Literally named the report I was referencing, haha – the same article says they want Cowser OR Kjerstad as the headliner from the Os.

gettwobrute79Member since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Trading Lou Bob is a lot trickier than Cease. He’s still signed for three seasons after 24, so if they’re looking to turn the corner a bit in 26 and it’s a winnable division…why not hang onto him? The flip side of this is his age, contract, and 2023 season makes his price sky-high. What would a price for just Robert be? Send him across town for PCA and Horton? I’m not sure teams want to pay that cost right now, and if they’re not willing to, the Sox have no reason to cave.

As for combining him with Cease in a trade, hoo-boy what would that look like? Holliday/Mayo? That deal is probably too bold for Baltimore to do, even if it may make baseball sense. Salas/Merrill and a bit more?

Adam SMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Not sure why the White Sox would want prospect who will contribute in 2025. 2026 is far enough away that they might be decent, but 2027 seems like the soonest they could turn this around.

wOBHey!
2 years ago

I would say the White Sox are perpetually rebuilding, but that would be giving them too much credit. They are so bad and boring that Jason Benetti getting run out of town by Brooks Boyer might cut their viewing audience in half. He was the only thing keeping the doldrums at bay.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  wOBHey!

As a Detroit fan that was best move move they made this offseason! 5 WAR upgrade from the unlistenable Matt Sheppard

wOBHey!
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

Enjoy him, he’s great!

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  wOBHey!

At least he’s still in the AL Central!

Chip LockeMember since 2016
2 years ago

I had a thought with myself yesterday, “which non-A’s fan base should be the most disappointed with their chosen franchise going into Spring Training (with the caveat that things can still change somewhat dramatically)?”

I think, with due respect to Orioles, Padres, Mariners, Nationals, and Angels fans, the White Sox take the cake.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Chip Locke

Obviously, the A’s are the most disappointing team, but since it’s not obvious there are A’s fans left it kind of doesn’t matter. And the Rockies might be but anyone who is still a Rockies fan has internalized how bad everything is and is just out there making excuses now.

Of the remaining ones I think the Angels and White Sox are the most disappointing, and while things aren’t great for the Nationals or Royals it’s mostly the bad decisions of the past that are hurting them now.

Of the average-to-above average teams, the Mariners are in their own special boat of disappointment because they’ve been very active while getting worse. But the Orioles, Brewers, and Padres have some limitations but still should be doing something.

CousinNicky
2 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

There are 4 bad categories most of these teams fall into

  1. Dont spend $ and are bad team and cant develop players(Royals)
  2. Dont spend $, are a bad team, but they develop good players but trade away because $$(A’s)
  3. Dont spend $, have a good or promising team, develop well(Orioles, Marlins, Rays, Mariners)
  4. Will spend money, have a bad team, cant develop most players except random stud(white sox, rockies)

I think 3 is the worst place to be, because you get a taste of success but the window closes early because your team gets expensive after a couple of seasons and its back to rebuild because the owner wont invest in the team.

This is also why its more frustrating to be a fan of a team that keeps getting into the postseason but never winning it (see bills fans this week) than just a bad team that is lost at the moment and little hope for the future (see carolina panthers fans this past year).

1 and 2 you have accepted your fate as a trash organization (still lol at the royals 2 year run to win a WS) but after that they have been beyond awful. 4 you hope a change in management can change the philosophy and win again with a good plan.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  CousinNicky

It’s not that the Royals don’t spend money – look at their offseason – it’s that who they spend on is kind of baffling.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  airforce21one

Baffling spenders you say?!

*Dick Monfort has entered the chat*

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  Chip Locke

You forgot the Marlins, who made the playoffs, and then ran out their GM and did nothing all winter (I wish the recent article on WAS would have been about FLA instead)

mikejuntMember
2 years ago
Reply to  Chip Locke

How about the dynamic where the White Sox and Dodgers share a spring training complex. Talk about diametrically different emotions and directions in that group.

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

“The Grass Really *is* Greener: My Life as a Camelback Ranch Employee” is a memoir I would read

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Chip Locke

Not to diminish another fan’s disappointment, but to pull for a promising team (92-70 by BaseRuns last season) that has been busy getting worse to maintain a $140m-ish payroll going forward is, indeed, as our sad friend puts it, its ā€œown special boat of disappointment.ā€

Last edited 2 years ago by Mitchell Moore
kingharbaughMember since 2021
2 years ago
Reply to  Chip Locke

The Mariners have a better team today than they did October 2nd. I’m not sure why M’s fans are so disappointed. The team will be good.

catmanwayne
2 years ago
Reply to  kingharbaugh

We want them to be great though! They’re not great, and they don’t necessarily aspire to be. They only want to be good enough to keep fans interested without having to do the financial legwork needed to win titles.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago

The player development here has been so disappointing. 3 years ago would anyone have foreseen this mess & so many guys (Moncada, Eloy, Kopech, Giolito, Vaughn, etc) not living up to expectations?

& I fully expect Kopech to miraculously “find it” as soon as he leaves & be a fire breathing closer for some smart team (LAD? Rays? Giants? Orioles? Braves?) that unlocks his potential.

Last edited 2 years ago by PC1970
MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

So what do you do when player development is disappointing? Promote the Director of Player Development!

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Hey, failing upwards is still moving upwards!!

catmanwayne
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

Literally anyone else could do a better job at directing player development, so promoting their incompetent guy might actually help them a little bit.

jkappel1014
2 years ago

Maybe I missed something but why is Yasmani Grandal listed with the Sox? He is a current free agent and the Sox have given no indication of resigning him.

Richie
2 years ago
Reply to  jkappel1014

That’s how Dan intentionally does it. He (rightfully) wants to have every player listed SOMEwhere, so it’s properly with his old team till he finds a new one.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
2 years ago

As a Nats fan, the Danny Espinosa comp for Paul DeJong is so on point it’s painful. Dude should consider growing a mustache.

nelliseMember since 2022
2 years ago

Gavin Sheets is still expected to play for this team. What? How? Why?

cregwalkerMember since 2022
2 years ago

Tim Elko drawing an Andres Galarraga comp is inspiring.

BenjaminMember since 2019
2 years ago

Going with the old Cease and Luis and pray for a precipitation increase? (or a new stadium lease?)

DLHughey
2 years ago

You mentioned no no-name relievers, but I’m shocked that Jordan Leasure has such a pedestrian projection for Ks. On this terrible team, I could see him get promoted quickly, and he had a near 40% k rate last year, even with no command.

dangledangleMember since 2024
2 years ago

While high ranked prospects that graduate frequently don’t pan having so many where that happens indicates a broken organization. It feels like a number of these players need to find a way out of the south side and to a smart organization that has a positive record for reclamation projects. Seems like the perfect organization for LA to feed off to fill out their roster in coming years.

lavarnway
2 years ago

I want so badly for 140 healthy innings and a sub-4.00 ERA from Soroka. Love that guy.

sourbob
2 years ago

Woof. A whole lotta “Woof.”

eriqjaffe
2 years ago

Dan, you should probably tell ZiPS that Yasmani Grandal isn’t on the White Sox any more.

nelliseMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  eriqjaffe

He includes players with their most recent team.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  nellise

Over/under on the number of teams’ projections this exact discussion gets appended to each year: 8.5

mikejuntMember
2 years ago

This team is right back to where it was before they acquired Moncada in the Sale trade: basically 2 or 3 players who belong on a competitive major league team, and absolutely nothing else.

NATS FanMember since 2018
2 years ago

I’m taking the over on Eric Fedde. I say an era close to or perhaps better than 4. He looks renewed after Korea. I think he is and i’m still rooting for him.

airforce21oneMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

Everyone looks renewed after Korea

Adam SMember since 2016
2 years ago

Ha ha.

Nick Madrigal would project as the White Sox second best position player if he were still around, despite a projection of less than 400 PAs. This team is bad, though they do have quite a collection of highly regarded prospects who have hit their 20th percentile outcome.

curt schillings ketchup bottle
2 years ago

That starting pitcher situation, even with cease. Yikes.

bdumasMember since 2020
2 years ago

Kind of surprised there’s no mention of Noah Schultz. Too far from MLB action?

YOLOuniversityMember since 2017
2 years ago

Read this like a parent who has to sign and acknowledge their kid’s awful report card, except I’m both mad and disappointed. The White Sox are my favorite team, which means I don’t watch nearly as much baseball as I used to.

CBollerMember since 2020
2 years ago

Can you add the L/R Splits to the downloadable csv files on the Projections page?